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In reply to SmaptyWolf • 12:05p, 7/18/26
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hokiewolf said:
It's not the speech that you should pay attention to, it's what it tees up next. Not sure what that is yet, feels like this was a SAVE Act speech.

I'll be very pleasantly surprised if that's all it was.

You guys are being toyed with........it's a Military Intelligence operation and it has been for 10 years. What are you going to say with those 100+ technicians and engineers from Venezuela step on the stand and talk about the Dominion and Smartmatics mechanisms for changing votes? When they tell us how they've changed the outcomes of elections in 71 other countries, in addition to the United States? I can tell you 3 of the 71 off the cuff, and they are Brazil, South Korea and South Africa.

Like I've said, I step to the plate and call the shot!

What will your retort be then?

I've got my #Popcorn, this will be fun! #EnjoyDaShow

Since Gulf's brain couldn't process the question maybe you can help me out. Why did China (and Venezuela?) let Trump win in 2024, when Biden controlled everything and it would have been much easier to hack the election?


To your point. How does Trump not see that by bloviating on 2020 election fraud, he's really pointing the finger right back at himself and his administration for allowing it (if it had happened, which it clearly didn't).

This bellyaching is and always has been the lose-lose ramblings of a stunted, insecure child.
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12:29p, 7/18/26
Sad to see the complicity. Ripe for losing what they have here.....we were close.
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12:50p, 7/18/26
Gulf, SOW Hegseth has given you, his permission. He, in fact, encourages you.
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In reply to IseWolf22 • 1:05p, 7/18/26
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caryking said:
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ABC, NBC, CNN do not air Trump's election-security speech live on primary channels

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-networks-face-dilemma-over-whether-air-trumps-election-security-speech-2026-07-16/
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Suppressing speech and information are what the Nazi's and fascist would do all while calling other people Nazi's and fascist.

It's fascinating that you think stations have a legal or ethical obligation to platform the debunked conspiracy theories and outright lies pouring from the president's mouth on a minute by minute basis, to the very clear detriment of his constituents and our country. (They don't)

But for some reason you don't think the president himself has an obligation for some semblance of ethical, honest leadership. (He does)

Stations have a first amendment right to choose what to cover, and choosing not to cover a cascade of grievances and lies seems rational.

The insecure, infantile president still propagating debunked conspiracies to the world because he's a child, certainly does not.

Whether you like it or not, this is news. Take away their license as they do have an obligation to report this, regardless of yours or any persons personal beliefs.

Reading all these posts is amazing how divided we are as people. This isn't going to end in a good place..


I thought you supported the constitution?

News stations are not obligated to show any politician's speech. The speech itself was covered plenty in subsequent articles. Articles that rightly pointed out his claims were unsubstantiated, even by the documents they released.

The amazing part of the "divide" is how one group has chosen to blindly trust low quality "news" sources that consistently lie about factual events. There was and is major problems with credibility of the MSM. But if you are instead turning to Fox talk shows and twitter sources like Were and Gulf, you're trading flawed sources for false sources.

Once again, people need to seek out information outside of their information bubble. Go find other points of view. You should be MOST suspicious of sources that are telling you exactly what you want to hear

Speaking of the Constitution...

The Constitution guarantees and mandates that STATES run elections in the United States. Congress can set uniform rules for administering elections. But the executive branch plays NO ROLE at all in setting rules for elections or administering them.

If the SAVE TRUMP act fails, Trump's strategy is to use illegal means (threatened criminal punishment against state officials) to assert power or compel authority the Constitution simply doesn't allow. So yeah, extortion.

We can't show these thugs the door fast enough.
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In reply to IseWolf22 • 1:06p, 7/18/26
IseWolf22 said:
caryking said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
ABC, NBC, CNN do not air Trump's election-security speech live on primary channels

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-networks-face-dilemma-over-whether-air-trumps-election-security-speech-2026-07-16/
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Suppressing speech and information are what the Nazi's and fascist would do all while calling other people Nazi's and fascist.

It's fascinating that you think stations have a legal or ethical obligation to platform the debunked conspiracy theories and outright lies pouring from the president's mouth on a minute by minute basis, to the very clear detriment of his constituents and our country. (They don't)

But for some reason you don't think the president himself has an obligation for some semblance of ethical, honest leadership. (He does)

Stations have a first amendment right to choose what to cover, and choosing not to cover a cascade of grievances and lies seems rational.

The insecure, infantile president still propagating debunked conspiracies to the world because he's a child, certainly does not.

Whether you like it or not, this is news. Take away their license as they do have an obligation to report this, regardless of yours or any persons personal beliefs.

Reading all these posts is amazing how divided we are as people. This isn't going to end in a good place..


I thought you supported the constitution?

News stations are not obligated to show any politician's speech. The speech itself was covered plenty in subsequent articles. Articles that rightly pointed out his claims were unsubstantiated, even by the documents they released.

The amazing part of the "divide" is how one group has chosen to blindly trust low quality "news" sources that consistently lie about factual events. There was and is major problems with credibility of the MSM. But if you are instead turning to Fox talk shows and twitter sources like Were and Gulf, you're trading flawed sources for false sources.

Once again, people need to seek out information outside of their information bubble. Go find other points of view. You should be MOST suspicious of sources that are telling you exactly what you want to hear

Oh, the irony…
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In reply to caryking • 5:03p, 7/18/26
I can guarantee I read a lot more news and analysis from POVs I do not agree with than you and the rest of the Trump crowd.
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In reply to IseWolf22 • 5:52p, 7/18/26
IseWolf22 said:
I can guarantee I read a lot more news and analysis from POVs I do not agree with than you and the rest of the Trump crowd.


Sounds open minded
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In reply to IseWolf22 • 7:34p, 7/18/26
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I can guarantee I read a lot more news and analysis from POVs I do not agree with than you and the rest of the Trump crowd.

It doesn't surprise me you would say something like that…
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10:50p, 7/18/26
#blindmice, can you explain this away for us? Please?

Of course, going forward, #nappy wants his blue states to count like they do now .....that high prcision counting for days and days ...like Michigan, California and Fulton county Ga.

"The Federal Election Commission allows a maximum error rate of just 0.0008% for computerized voting systems. The error rate of Dominion voting systems, at a shocking 68.05%, is 85,000 times higher than the threshold."

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11:21p, 7/18/26
George HW Bush will be shown to be a criminal. It will be interesting - in the end - to learn if his place of birth is not as advertised.....much akin to Obama.
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11:39p, 7/18/26
#nappy likes the elections run just like they do in Fulton County Ga.....the Feds cannot change em!!
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12:02a, 7/19/26
The #blindmice supported Biden and Company's agenda. Trafficking these illegal children was a priority for them. Don't deny it, own it!

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6:49a, 7/19/26
Remember, we have the actual perpetrators tucked away for safe keeping right here in the USA now.....along with their family. What you might call this in kinetic military battle is an #AMBUSH. Do I have the appropriate word, #Sieve?

We've already had a #STING.

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7:07a, 7/19/26
Remember in 2016 when democrats, with the help of the media, told us Russia had interfered in our elections and that was the only way President Trump won.

Man, those were good times

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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 9:23a, 7/19/26
So both sides can't be wrong?
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In reply to hokiewolf • 9:52a, 7/19/26
Let me guess…"It was wrong then (but I didn't say anything) and it's wrong now"?
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 10:07a, 7/19/26
Whataboutism, the argument that always works.

It wasn't ok then ( when you said something) but it is now?
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In reply to hokiewolf • 10:13a, 7/19/26
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?

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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 10:25a, 7/19/26
Gulfstream4 said:
Remember in 2016 when democrats, with the help of the media, told us Russia had interfered in our elections and that was the only way President Trump won.

Man, those were good times


Actually, it was the FBI and CIA that were investigating it, because Trump and his cronies gave them about 100 good reasons to. Oh, and it was Republicans who launched the Mueller probe. You don't think the media would report on that?

The difference between then and now: There was a ton of documented evidence of Russian manipulation and hacking, and endless bizzare ties between Trump cronies and Russian oligarchs. Mueller was just never able to find evidence of a "criminal conspiracy". Instead he documented Trump's endless obstruction that prevented him from getting that evidence and gave up. He even made a point to state that the report does NOT exonerate Trump. Which of course totally exonerated Trump once your "up is down" machine got finished with it.

Meanwhile, Trump has zero evidence as always, and just pulls a bunch of nonsense out of his butt that you dutifully gobble up.

It's comical that after YEARS now of watching Trump trashing NATO and showering Putin with gifts anyone can still question Trump's ties to Russia with a straight face.
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 10:26a, 7/19/26
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


Oh man, thanks. I needed an actual belly laugh.
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In reply to SmaptyWolf • 10:27a, 7/19/26
SmaptyWolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Remember in 2016 when democrats, with the help of the media, told us Russia had interfered in our elections and that was the only way President Trump won.

Man, those were good times


Actually, it was the FBI and CIA that were investigating it, because Trump and his cronies gave them about 100 good reasons to. You don't think the media would report on that?

The difference between then and now: There was a ton of documented evidence of Russian manipulation and hacking, and endless bizzare ties between Trump cronies and Russian oligarchs. Mueller was just never able to find evidence of a "criminal conspiracy". Instead he documented Trump's endless obstruction that prevented him from getting that evidence and gave up. He even made a point to state that the report does NOT exonerate Trump. Which of course totally exonerated Trump once your "up is down" machine got finished with it.

Meanwhile, Trump has zero evidence as always, and just pulls a bunch of nonsense out of his butt that you dutifully gobble up.

It's comical that after YEARS now of watching Trump trashing NATO and showering Putin with gift anyone can still question Trump's ties to Russia with a straight face.


LOL
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10:36a, 7/19/26
The Democratic Socialists of America released a new party platform this week that would fundamentally remake the U.S. constitutional system, calling for the abolition of the Senate and the replacement of the presidency and Supreme Court with bodies subordinate to Congress.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senate/4653742/what-happens-dsa-abolish-senate/
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It ain't your mom and dad's democrat party anymore
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In reply to hokiewolf • 10:40a, 7/19/26
hokiewolf said:
Whataboutism, the argument that always works.

It wasn't ok then ( when you said something) but it is now?


#dave is saying 2020 wasn't stolen. #dave is in denial and soon to accept the tar and feathers. You can go before #Sieve or after. #dave, do u have a preference?
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 11:21a, 7/19/26
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?

you believe a race to the bottom has made things better? I don't.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 11:34a, 7/19/26
hokiewolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?

you believe a race to the bottom has made things better? I don't.




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In reply to hokiewolf • 11:34a, 7/19/26
hokiewolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


you believe a race to the bottom has made things better? I don't.

You believe there's even remotely a "both sides" here. There isn't.
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In reply to SmaptyWolf • 11:36a, 7/19/26
SmaptyWolf said:
hokiewolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


you believe a race to the bottom has made things better? I don't.

You believe there's even remotely a "both sides" here. There isn't.
you both have proven my point this morning. Congrats.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 11:42a, 7/19/26
hokiewolf said:
SmaptyWolf said:
hokiewolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


you believe a race to the bottom has made things better? I don't.

You believe there's even remotely a "both sides" here. There isn't.

you both have proven my point this morning. Congrats.

How did I prove your point, exactly? You think what Trump just did on national TV is equivalent to REPUBLICANS launching a Russia probe (for some reason)?
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 12:09p, 7/19/26
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.
CALS grad

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In reply to Oldsouljer • 12:29p, 7/19/26
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.


Oh I know. Communists have killed 100's of millions throughout world history and they are here again.
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 12:35p, 7/19/26
Gulfstream4 said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.


Oh I know. Communists have killed 100's of millions throughout world history and they are here again.
you're afraid of over educated trust fund kids and the later stage boomer generation? Let's tamp down the rhetoric
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In reply to Oldsouljer • 12:37p, 7/19/26
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.
and yet you stand by while this administration continues to implement socialist policies because?. Strange world we live in.
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In reply to caryking • 12:38p, 7/19/26
caryking said:
IseWolf22 said:
I can guarantee I read a lot more news and analysis from POVs I do not agree with than you and the rest of the Trump crowd.

It doesn't surprise me you would say something like that…

I try to give you the benefit of the doubt as one of the few MAGA here not reveling in the lowest common denominator politics, but you consistently contradict yourself.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 1:07p, 7/19/26
hokiewolf said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.

and yet you stand by while this administration continues to implement socialist policies because?. Strange world we live in.

Well, when the choice seems to be between socialist evolution and socialist Revolution, I'll take the slower road.
CALS grad

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In reply to Oldsouljer • 1:59p, 7/19/26
Oldsouljer said:
hokiewolf said:
Oldsouljer said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Why are republicans ALWAYS expected to take the high road now when democrats were the ones throwing shade in 2016?

And how is pointing out the blatant hypocrisy from the left "whataboutism"?


This is all a distraction from the reality that there is only two groups in the USA now, the Socialists who've taken over what was once the Democratic Party versus the rest of us. It's war, and they mean to eradicate the rest of us.

and yet you stand by while this administration continues to implement socialist policies because?. Strange world we live in.

Well, when the choice seems to be between socialist evolution and socialist Revolution, I'll take the slower road.
I prefer neither
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