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#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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Jessica Tarlov with another great refutation of the epic ICE homicide gaslighting.
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packgrad said:

Pretty spot on.




Liberal white women are not well
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Too damn funny!
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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hokiewolf said:

Great company we're going to join here. If this happens, it's been a great run America.



Hopefully it works out great for us just like it did for Turkey when Erdogan plugged in his own market-friendly monetary policy puppet to head their central bank!

Just wait till all the inflation hawks on here that hated Biden's monetary policy get a good taste of that 80% Fed cronyism monetary spike!

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Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

Great company we're going to join here. If this happens, it's been a great run America.



Hopefully it works out great for us just like it did for Turkey when Erdogan plugged in his own market-friendly monetary policy puppet to head their central bank!

Just wait till all the inflation hawks on here that hated Biden's monetary policy get a good taste of that 80% Fed cronyism monetary spike!




You are going to get him one day, I just KNOW it!1
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Civilized said:

Jessica Tarlov with another great refutation of the epic ICE homicide gaslighting.

Civ, I get what you're saying here but it doesn't matter with respect to if a crime was committed by the officer. There wasn't a crime committed, there's a great podcast episode of Advisory Opinions that tells you why, and I encourage everyone to listen to it.

Now, the morality of everything, that's ok to question and that's much less black and white. I think there's too much focus on the exact moment shots are fired and not the other circumstances, including Good and her wife's actions as well as the ICE agents actions. And all of you, this isn't me putting the full blame at ICE, but I do want to know the following:

1. If this woman was a perceived danger why did they not box her car in with their vehicles before approaching her so the car couldn't move?

2. We see roughly 5 mins of video here. If it was 10 mins or 30 mins or an hour of her blocking the street, is it worth shooting a lady and basically getting the protesters what they want, which is a negative interaction with ICE,

3. Why did the officer who shot move from the rear of the vehicle to directly in front of it? Is that part of their training to do so? Goes back to question 1.

4. Why didn't the officer have a body camera so he wasn't distracted by his own camera when he put himself in harms way by moving to the front of the vehicle?

Again, there isn't a crime here, but there's an awful lot of what ifs that probably would have not escalated the situation l. I question the training of the officers with respect to vehicle stops. Were they properly trained? If they were, what did they not do correctly, and if the didn't, why the hell not, and especially prior to starting this national exercise where it should have been known or at least expected these types of interactions with the public were going to happen?

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Civilized said:

Jessica Tarlov with another great refutation of the epic ICE homicide gaslighting.



I'm sure you are stupid enough to believe that. He leaned over the car? He moved out of the way? And you watched the videos? He was hit by the car.

What a dumb puppet minion you are.
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hokiewolf said:

Civilized said:

Jessica Tarlov with another great refutation of the epic ICE homicide gaslighting.


Civ, I get what you're saying here but it doesn't matter with respect to if a crime was committed by the officer. There wasn't a crime committed, there's a great podcast episode of Advisory Opinions that tells you why, and I encourage everyone to listen to it.

Now, the morality of everything, that's ok to question and that's much less black and white. I think there's too much focus on the exact moment shots are fired and not the other circumstances, including Good and her wife's actions as well as the ICE agents actions. And all of you, this isn't me putting the full blame at ICE, but I do want to know the following:

1. If this woman was a perceived danger why did they not box her car in with their vehicles before approaching her so the car couldn't move?

2. We see roughly 5 mins of video here. If it was 10 mins or 30 mins or an hour of her blocking the street, is it worth shooting a lady and basically getting the protesters what they want, which is a negative interaction with ICE,

3. Why did the officer who shot move from the rear of the vehicle to directly in front of it? Is that part of their training to do so? Goes back to question 1.

4. Why didn't the officer have a body camera so he wasn't distracted by his own camera when he put himself in harms way by moving to the front of the vehicle?

Again, there isn't a crime here, but there's an awful lot of what ifs that probably would have not escalated the situation l. I question the training of the officers with respect to vehicle stops. Were they properly trained? If they were, what did they not do correctly, and if the didn't, why the hell not, and especially prior to starting this national exercise where it should have been known or at least expected these types of interactions with the public were going to happen?




Listened to the AO episode, and you're right, it was the most detailed legal analysis I've heard yet of the situation. Fantastic breakdown.

There are two issues here - is the officer responsible for her death, and will he be found criminally liable?

Agree that based on precedent, sadly it's likely this never sees a courtroom much less a conviction.

Case law so heavily tips towards law enforcement, even often those that are clearly responsible for a death, and more obviously, because who's bringing charges? This Justice Department? LOL. There is less than zero chance that would happen with this crowd no matter the facts of the case. Pam, Kash, and Kristi ain't interested in a true accounting of the facts of the situation and letting the facts determine next steps. Kristi started claiming this was domestic terrorism 5 seconds after it happened, before any investigation had even taken place.

One of the cases highlighted by the AO crew illustrates the challenge of bringing charges against police. Most deaths at the hands of police don't go to trial. And of those that do, acquittals are far more common than convictions, even when law enforcement is clearly responsible, including when they give clearly conflicting commands that get inadvertently violated because they can't both be followed, like the "crawl towards me with your hands in the air" and "reach for your license but not your gun" examples that were discussed. Those officers were acquitted, even though their actions clearly and directly led to a death.

So yeah I'm not holding my breath that there will ever actually be a trial because I don't think there's even going to be an investigation, much less a sober reckoning with the facts, and precedent makes it really hard to bring charges against law enforcement acting in the line of duty.

But that doesn't absolve the agent of responsibility for her death. He's the masked and deputized alleged pro with a gun. It's his responsibility to think and act like a pro, and that means taking steps to avoid situations that can clearly put him in jeopardy, and to not take someone's life when other reasonable alternatives exist.

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^"other reasonable alternatives exist" ......like maybe stand on the sidewalk with a sign and protest?

Nauseating. U 3 blind mice.....

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Working towards balancing the budget ..LOL, with tariffs and no Fed income tax LMAO
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caryking said:

Oldsouljer said:

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It's amazing how liberals will defend this situation, when they didn't open their mouth about Ashli Babbit…

They're all hypocrites.

If she had ran over and killed that Ice agent these same people would be celebrating.

Both people put themselves in bad positions. I said it before, Ashli Babbit created the environment that allowed for the killing. That's the same for this Woman in Minneapolis.

the difference I see is the woman in Minneapolis instigated the situation; whereas, Babbit entered an area she shouldn't have. One woman caused a reaction and the other woman caused a reaction by an overzealous officer.

You all should fill in which woman caused which situation…

The thing about Ashli Babbitt was that she was trying to protect anybody from climbing through the broken window. She had punched the guy who broke it. She was not armed and not a threat to Michael Byrd and he shot her anyways. She never had a chance. The woman in Minnesota could have obeyed the officers and didn't. You are right in your premise. Ashli Babbitt was murdered by coward.

Babbit may have been trying to keep others from climbing through, I really don't know. What I do know is that her being in that window got her killed. As far as her not being a threat, well… I'm not Michael Byrd and I wasn't in his heart and mind at the time. It certainly looked like an unwarranted shooting, but…



You are right no one knows, but there were Capitol Police officers right there and they were not trying to pull her down from the window. She was a military MP and she told the officers right there to call for back up. She was murdered in my opinion by a Capitol Police officer with lots of stains on his record.

https://www.theblaze.com/shows/blaze-news-tonight/officer-who-shot-and-killed-ashli-babbitt-had-shocking-track-record

Here is a story about her standing up to the guy who I believe broke the windo.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/ashli-babbitt-stood-up-to-him-now-j6er-helmet-boy-faces-new-charges

Listen, I'm not trying to be a pacifist…. All I'm saying is that these two ladies put themselves in bad positions.

Major difference….the two in Minneapolis were inarguably taunting and pushing for a reaction…which they got. It doesn't appear that Babbitt was exhibiting behavior in way comparable to that.

I think you and I are arguing different points. I agree with that the two liberal gay women were taunting the agents. That I'd definitely different than Ashli Babbit.

That said, both situation were met with horrible results because both situation had people in precarious places. Obviously, one was taunting whereas the other wasn't.

Yep. Neither party should have been there to begin with. Different details, but the premise is exactly the same... and it is a correct statement on your part.
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TheStorm said:

caryking said:

Oldsouljer said:

caryking said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

caryking said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

caryking said:

jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

It's amazing how liberals will defend this situation, when they didn't open their mouth about Ashli Babbit…

They're all hypocrites.

If she had ran over and killed that Ice agent these same people would be celebrating.

Both people put themselves in bad positions. I said it before, Ashli Babbit created the environment that allowed for the killing. That's the same for this Woman in Minneapolis.

the difference I see is the woman in Minneapolis instigated the situation; whereas, Babbit entered an area she shouldn't have. One woman caused a reaction and the other woman caused a reaction by an overzealous officer.

You all should fill in which woman caused which situation…

The thing about Ashli Babbitt was that she was trying to protect anybody from climbing through the broken window. She had punched the guy who broke it. She was not armed and not a threat to Michael Byrd and he shot her anyways. She never had a chance. The woman in Minnesota could have obeyed the officers and didn't. You are right in your premise. Ashli Babbitt was murdered by coward.

Babbit may have been trying to keep others from climbing through, I really don't know. What I do know is that her being in that window got her killed. As far as her not being a threat, well… I'm not Michael Byrd and I wasn't in his heart and mind at the time. It certainly looked like an unwarranted shooting, but…



You are right no one knows, but there were Capitol Police officers right there and they were not trying to pull her down from the window. She was a military MP and she told the officers right there to call for back up. She was murdered in my opinion by a Capitol Police officer with lots of stains on his record.

https://www.theblaze.com/shows/blaze-news-tonight/officer-who-shot-and-killed-ashli-babbitt-had-shocking-track-record

Here is a story about her standing up to the guy who I believe broke the windo.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/ashli-babbitt-stood-up-to-him-now-j6er-helmet-boy-faces-new-charges

Listen, I'm not trying to be a pacifist…. All I'm saying is that these two ladies put themselves in bad positions.

Major difference….the two in Minneapolis were inarguably taunting and pushing for a reaction…which they got. It doesn't appear that Babbitt was exhibiting behavior in way comparable to that.

I think you and I are arguing different points. I agree with that the two liberal gay women were taunting the agents. That I'd definitely different than Ashli Babbit.

That said, both situation were met with horrible results because both situation had people in precarious places. Obviously, one was taunting whereas the other wasn't.

Yep. Neither party should have been there to begin with. Different details, but the premise is exactly the same... and it is a correct statement on your part.

That's all I'm saying. Thanks for the post. Now, for the actual shooting and ultimately the deaths. One was justified and the other wasn't, my opinion, much to the chagrin of the left.
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packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

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Civilized said:

I don't know who to be more embarrassed for - the people that actually believe the ridiculous gaslighting she's vomiting, the people that know its total bull**** but don't care and support it anyway, or alleged leaders like Noem that eagerly bend the knee and submit to the pride-swallowing siege of being forced to regurgitate laughably false "alternative facts" day after day so that they'll stay in a demented narcissist's good graces.

When these clowns get absolutely run out on a rail I hope to God our country opts for sane, rational, humanist leadership and not an extension of this absolute buffoonery.



Says the lying propagandist. Seriously stfu with all of your lying you've done just in the last 2 days. Ready to admit you have been wrong on everything, or do you still want to gaslight, hypocrite? Quit crying about Noem. Fix your own party. You haven't said **** about Schiff, Omar, your daddy, or Frey. Or all of your news networks including Tapper. All gaslighting.

You are the problem in this country. Lying gaslighting wackos. Your normalcy is men in women's restrooms, complete disregard for law enforcement, open borders. Don't involve God in your cries for bedlam. America overwhelming voted against your lunacy.


So which one are you?

You dumb enough to actually believe what she's saying, or just callous and angry enough to not care?









Which one are you? The one that keeps gaslighting about this event? You've made it clear what your intelligence is in regards to anything political. Now that you have been ***** slapped in the face with every conceivable angle on this event, other than the lesbo lover who for some reason hasn't released her video, are you ready to admit you were completely wrong on everything and were led to look like a beta fool?

I do like how you're trying to deflect to Jan 6 though. Like the beta minion you are.


Completely wrong about what exactly?

That the agent created the very jeopardy that his attorney will undoubtedly try to use as justification for why he seconds later used lethal force, likely in violation of the law and certainly in violation of the training for every major law enforcement organization in the country?

That she clearly backed up and turned the wheel hard to the right to move around the officer before pulling away? That's on the agent's video clear as day.

That he was beside her car when he shot her in the face three times? I don't see how this is even in dispute. Look at the pictures below. You tell me how you look at these and come to any conclusion other than he was beside the car.



That she was verbally engaged with agents in an annoying but totally non-threatening way seconds before being killed and had her lab in the car and had just dropped her kid off at school moments before going to the protest, and that after she was shot in the face three times the agents muttered "****ing *****" at her as she died?

Or that Kristi Noem is giddily and obviously lying through her teeth about her administration caring so very deeply about even-handed treatment of violence towards federal officers even though Trump blanket-pardoned 1,500+ Jan 6 defendants, many of whom had perpetrated violence against federal officers? You can't both care deeply about protecting federal officers and also blanket-pardon 1,500 people in a mob that perpetrated violence against federal officers, just because the mob was at the capital to support Trump.

You think it's annoying Good was a liberal lesbian Democrat protesting ICE.

You're entitled to that opinion but cops aren't legally allowed to put themselves in jeopardy and then kill someone because of that self-inflicted hazard, and being annoying isn't a capital offense.

Lets count civs lies just in this post.

1. The agent did not create the jeopardy.
2. His use of lethal force is not in violation of the law. Your daddy wrote a law authorizing it, beta.
3. His use of lethal force is not in violation of the training for every major law enforcement organization in the country
4. She backed up and put him directly in front of her when he was front left of the vehicle before backing up. Being hounded by her lesbian lover.
5. Your stills show absolutely nothing. Complete lies.
6. She had not just dropped her kid off before it happened. I posted a video above of her parked in the middle of the road honking her horn and dancing in the car minutes before it happened. Who give a **** that she brought her dog to the protest?
7. Police ARE legally allowed to put themselves in jeopardy and then kill someone. It is literally part of the job, dumbass.

More things you lied about
8. She pulled away slowly.
9. She didn't see him
10. She was afraid of the masked men running at her door.

You're a **** person. A lying propagandist. Never cry about gaslighting again, hypocrite. You are the problem in this country. You're entitled to your opinion, but also entitled to the ass whooping that will surely come when you mouth off in public. You better stick to message boards.


Walking in front of the car for no other reason than to film her with his cell phone is the very definition of creating unnecessary jeopardy.

We'll see if the jury believes pictures are "lies" or whether they view them the way most other people on planet Earth would, which is visual evidence of a poorly trained, impulsive, and angry ICE mall cop putting himself directly in harm's way and then murdering someone for it.

You know, because she was a "****ing *****" and all.

Good luck at trial!


You don't know the definition of creating unnecessary jeopardy. That and she backed up and put him in front of the car. Why do you continue to lie and say otherwise? Such a retched person you are, especially calling him a murderer. He was definitely referring to people like you with the name he called her though.


Still waiting to see Civ briefly mention - just once even - that maybe she shouldn't have been there to begin with...

But that would be too easy.
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TheStorm said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

I don't know who to be more embarrassed for - the people that actually believe the ridiculous gaslighting she's vomiting, the people that know its total bull**** but don't care and support it anyway, or alleged leaders like Noem that eagerly bend the knee and submit to the pride-swallowing siege of being forced to regurgitate laughably false "alternative facts" day after day so that they'll stay in a demented narcissist's good graces.

When these clowns get absolutely run out on a rail I hope to God our country opts for sane, rational, humanist leadership and not an extension of this absolute buffoonery.



Says the lying propagandist. Seriously stfu with all of your lying you've done just in the last 2 days. Ready to admit you have been wrong on everything, or do you still want to gaslight, hypocrite? Quit crying about Noem. Fix your own party. You haven't said **** about Schiff, Omar, your daddy, or Frey. Or all of your news networks including Tapper. All gaslighting.

You are the problem in this country. Lying gaslighting wackos. Your normalcy is men in women's restrooms, complete disregard for law enforcement, open borders. Don't involve God in your cries for bedlam. America overwhelming voted against your lunacy.


So which one are you?

You dumb enough to actually believe what she's saying, or just callous and angry enough to not care?









Which one are you? The one that keeps gaslighting about this event? You've made it clear what your intelligence is in regards to anything political. Now that you have been ***** slapped in the face with every conceivable angle on this event, other than the lesbo lover who for some reason hasn't released her video, are you ready to admit you were completely wrong on everything and were led to look like a beta fool?

I do like how you're trying to deflect to Jan 6 though. Like the beta minion you are.


Completely wrong about what exactly?

That the agent created the very jeopardy that his attorney will undoubtedly try to use as justification for why he seconds later used lethal force, likely in violation of the law and certainly in violation of the training for every major law enforcement organization in the country?

That she clearly backed up and turned the wheel hard to the right to move around the officer before pulling away? That's on the agent's video clear as day.

That he was beside her car when he shot her in the face three times? I don't see how this is even in dispute. Look at the pictures below. You tell me how you look at these and come to any conclusion other than he was beside the car.



That she was verbally engaged with agents in an annoying but totally non-threatening way seconds before being killed and had her lab in the car and had just dropped her kid off at school moments before going to the protest, and that after she was shot in the face three times the agents muttered "****ing *****" at her as she died?

Or that Kristi Noem is giddily and obviously lying through her teeth about her administration caring so very deeply about even-handed treatment of violence towards federal officers even though Trump blanket-pardoned 1,500+ Jan 6 defendants, many of whom had perpetrated violence against federal officers? You can't both care deeply about protecting federal officers and also blanket-pardon 1,500 people in a mob that perpetrated violence against federal officers, just because the mob was at the capital to support Trump.

You think it's annoying Good was a liberal lesbian Democrat protesting ICE.

You're entitled to that opinion but cops aren't legally allowed to put themselves in jeopardy and then kill someone because of that self-inflicted hazard, and being annoying isn't a capital offense.

Lets count civs lies just in this post.

1. The agent did not create the jeopardy.
2. His use of lethal force is not in violation of the law. Your daddy wrote a law authorizing it, beta.
3. His use of lethal force is not in violation of the training for every major law enforcement organization in the country
4. She backed up and put him directly in front of her when he was front left of the vehicle before backing up. Being hounded by her lesbian lover.
5. Your stills show absolutely nothing. Complete lies.
6. She had not just dropped her kid off before it happened. I posted a video above of her parked in the middle of the road honking her horn and dancing in the car minutes before it happened. Who give a **** that she brought her dog to the protest?
7. Police ARE legally allowed to put themselves in jeopardy and then kill someone. It is literally part of the job, dumbass.

More things you lied about
8. She pulled away slowly.
9. She didn't see him
10. She was afraid of the masked men running at her door.

You're a **** person. A lying propagandist. Never cry about gaslighting again, hypocrite. You are the problem in this country. You're entitled to your opinion, but also entitled to the ass whooping that will surely come when you mouth off in public. You better stick to message boards.


Walking in front of the car for no other reason than to film her with his cell phone is the very definition of creating unnecessary jeopardy.

We'll see if the jury believes pictures are "lies" or whether they view them the way most other people on planet Earth would, which is visual evidence of a poorly trained, impulsive, and angry ICE mall cop putting himself directly in harm's way and then murdering someone for it.

You know, because she was a "****ing *****" and all.

Good luck at trial!


You don't know the definition of creating unnecessary jeopardy. That and she backed up and put him in front of the car. Why do you continue to lie and say otherwise? Such a retched person you are, especially calling him a murderer. He was definitely referring to people like you with the name he called her though.


Still waiting to see Civ briefly mention - just once even - that maybe she shouldn't have been there to begin with...

But that would be too easy.


He still hasn't walked back his other BS about "slowly pulling away", "she didn't see him", "she didn't hit him", "she was afraid". The list goes on.

Lying civ thinks she was not to blame and the ICE agent is a murderer.
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Trump to deliver to DAVOS the terms of surrender?
https://www.prometheanaction.com/the-saturday-wrap-up-trump-vs-davos-delivering-the-terms-of-surrender-january-10-2026/
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I'd also like to point out that "protesting" and "interfering in a law enforcement operation" are two entirely different things. This woman wasn't "protesting"...

But the actual truth is never important to the left.
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https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/left-seeks-martyrs-fuel-anti-trump-uprising-ice-enforcement-operations-ramp-up-nationwide
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TheStorm said:

I'd also like to point out that "protesting" and "interfering in a law enforcement operation" are two entirely different things. This woman wasn't "protesting"...

But the actual truth is never important to the left.

Exactly, I'm all for peaceful protests but what she did and many others are doing is intentionally interfering with officers trying to enforce federal law. Again if these "sanctuary" cities actually cooperated with Ice and helped remove these criminals all of this could be prevented.

As long as these morons continue to try and block in Ice officers, jump on their cars, stand in front of their cars and get in their faces, bad things are gonna continue to happen and liberals will blame the officers no matter what.
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Lmfao thanks I needed that laugh this morning.
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TheStorm said:

caryking said:

Oldsouljer said:

caryking said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

caryking said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

caryking said:

jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

It's amazing how liberals will defend this situation, when they didn't open their mouth about Ashli Babbit…

They're all hypocrites.

If she had ran over and killed that Ice agent these same people would be celebrating.

Both people put themselves in bad positions. I said it before, Ashli Babbit created the environment that allowed for the killing. That's the same for this Woman in Minneapolis.

the difference I see is the woman in Minneapolis instigated the situation; whereas, Babbit entered an area she shouldn't have. One woman caused a reaction and the other woman caused a reaction by an overzealous officer.

You all should fill in which woman caused which situation…

The thing about Ashli Babbitt was that she was trying to protect anybody from climbing through the broken window. She had punched the guy who broke it. She was not armed and not a threat to Michael Byrd and he shot her anyways. She never had a chance. The woman in Minnesota could have obeyed the officers and didn't. You are right in your premise. Ashli Babbitt was murdered by coward.

Babbit may have been trying to keep others from climbing through, I really don't know. What I do know is that her being in that window got her killed. As far as her not being a threat, well… I'm not Michael Byrd and I wasn't in his heart and mind at the time. It certainly looked like an unwarranted shooting, but…



You are right no one knows, but there were Capitol Police officers right there and they were not trying to pull her down from the window. She was a military MP and she told the officers right there to call for back up. She was murdered in my opinion by a Capitol Police officer with lots of stains on his record.

https://www.theblaze.com/shows/blaze-news-tonight/officer-who-shot-and-killed-ashli-babbitt-had-shocking-track-record

Here is a story about her standing up to the guy who I believe broke the windo.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/ashli-babbitt-stood-up-to-him-now-j6er-helmet-boy-faces-new-charges

Listen, I'm not trying to be a pacifist…. All I'm saying is that these two ladies put themselves in bad positions.

Major difference….the two in Minneapolis were inarguably taunting and pushing for a reaction…which they got. It doesn't appear that Babbitt was exhibiting behavior in way comparable to that.

I think you and I are arguing different points. I agree with that the two liberal gay women were taunting the agents. That I'd definitely different than Ashli Babbit.

That said, both situation were met with horrible results because both situation had people in precarious places. Obviously, one was taunting whereas the other wasn't.

Yep. Neither party should have been there to begin with. Different details, but the premise is exactly the same... and it is a correct statement on your part.

Agreed, both are responsible for not being with us today.
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TheStorm said:

I'd also like to point out that "protesting" and "interfering in a law enforcement operation" are two entirely different things. This woman wasn't "protesting"...

But the actual truth is never important to the left.
100%. They should have been charged with a crime by the Minneapolis police department.

I would say the actual truth also isn't important to this current admin however. Their words on this issue and Jan 6 prove it. If we don't want to be honest about that, then it's all moot.
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