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jkpackfan
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caryking said:

Oldsouljer said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

Werewolf said:

s a weird take since it's obvious they're pushing the envelope of normative Presidential behavior

#Sieve, do You mean like this?



I have a feeling if you or our resident trans-haters had a gay or trans kid, you'd have a much different take on this topic. Like I've mentioned on here before, we have close friends with non-binary (and possibly trans) middle school kid. This kid was in our Y-Guides tribe (prior to starting to openly work through identity issues). Great family. Dad was a Big East track athlete. Not rad-lib. Not political. Not TDS'ers. Just a normal family, three kids. Lots of camping trips, Seagull, Seafarer, Rockmont, all the things. Really sweet and thoughtful and normal folks.

Having an LGBTQ kid is extremely stressful for the family to navigate because of the obvious challenge of helping your kid navigate a fundamental issue, and also due to the fear of bullying and isolation and resultant potential self-harm.

This appears to be a purely voluntary gathering intended to support LGBTQ students and and to help avoid LGBTQ students feeling alone, prompted or encouraged partially by the recent suicide of a bullied LGBTQ student.

No events like this should be required for students (nor would I imagine they would be in today's obviously divided poltiical climate) but we also shouldn't let LGBTQ students feel like pariah, like their identity is something they need to keep secret and never discussed.

What's wrong with occasional and purely voluntary, opt-in type supportive events for the LGBTQ school community?

My GodSon is gay and married another dude this summer. Brought his husband to our huge family event. We dealt with it, my GodSon is a good man -29ish now - educated - etc. Still, its the wrong direction and we sure as hell shouldn't be pushing this agenda in our schools. Grow up in California and attend an Ivy League school for further brainwashing and you get a gay liberal pulling for Antifa. Yep, my GodSon. Too much damn Soy!

As with all sin, we are called to repent. Ultimately, we are sinners; however, our goal is recognize those sins and do everything to not act on them. That said…

John 8:7 - I paraphrase, he who is without sin can cast the first stone. He then said, go and leave your life of sin.

Again, we are all sinners; however, we don't have to act on our sin.

Thanks for the reminder of why church attendance has been plummeting for decades.

Yes, the Devil is an evil one. He works on the best of us…

Seems to be a dichotomy out there. The churches with plummeting attendance are the ones who've gone modernist, while the traditional churches seem to be undergoing a revival of sorts.

I disagree somewhat , I think the revival is in churches that teach out of the Bible. These show churches that don't teach but instead are more interested in making you feel good are the ones losing attendance.

We had a great sermon on Sunday on Timothy 2 and pastor Zeb spoke upon this very topic.

Not in so many words, but I thought that is what I said. Meant, in any case.

i probably see modernist differently than you. You can be more modernist but still do the teaching right.

Yes, you can have a praise band, playing today's Christian music and teach the truth that is the Bible.

And no… that's not Christian Nationalism at all. It's a foundational view that God is the creator of all things that sent Jesus (the Son and perfect embodiment of God) to provide others, even to this day, an example of how we should strive to be every day.

I personally do not want to push a Christian life on others. That said, I will show how my relationship, with Christ, has allowed me to be more like him. Then, a person can choose to do what they want with it. Most Christians I know, do not push their faith on another person; however, they will express the greatness God has to offer. Again, every person has to be responsible for their own relationship…

I think the modernist movement has a different meaning than what you are describing and what I've just stated.

Christian nationalism is just the lefts' latest buzzword. But I do not care for "modern" worship practices and avoid churches that are into that.

My family are members of Salem Baptist Church in Apex. Our service is very traditional, outside of the type of music we have. So, if you change the music, we are very old school Baptist service.

So you're a Christian nationalist!
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caryking said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

hokiewolf said:

This isn't a criticism of Trump, he's honestly fallen into the same trap as every other President since Carter. Hamas is a cancer, you have to completely eradicate it otherwise it will metastasize again.

This is the exact reason I didnt like his blustering about a "lasting ceasefire". Hamas staying in power assures that it wont last, it's an intermission.

I give him all the credit in the world for getting the hostages back to Israel, but I just dont see any sort of lasting peace with Hamas still in Gaza.

I think Trumps leadership in getting people to the table is admirable and (should) be applauded. That said, I agree Hamas is a bad actor and will probably never be normalized, in any way.

Eradicating them? I'm just not that enthusiastic about the US taking on another tribal type group. People, in that neck of the woods, need to solve this issue. The question is: does anyone there have the will to do it, along side of Israel?

Totally agree, this needs to be handled by the players in the region but thus far no one outside of Israel has seemed willing. Maybe this peace agreement will change things but I have my doubts.
caryking
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jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

Oldsouljer said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

Werewolf said:

s a weird take since it's obvious they're pushing the envelope of normative Presidential behavior

#Sieve, do You mean like this?



I have a feeling if you or our resident trans-haters had a gay or trans kid, you'd have a much different take on this topic. Like I've mentioned on here before, we have close friends with non-binary (and possibly trans) middle school kid. This kid was in our Y-Guides tribe (prior to starting to openly work through identity issues). Great family. Dad was a Big East track athlete. Not rad-lib. Not political. Not TDS'ers. Just a normal family, three kids. Lots of camping trips, Seagull, Seafarer, Rockmont, all the things. Really sweet and thoughtful and normal folks.

Having an LGBTQ kid is extremely stressful for the family to navigate because of the obvious challenge of helping your kid navigate a fundamental issue, and also due to the fear of bullying and isolation and resultant potential self-harm.

This appears to be a purely voluntary gathering intended to support LGBTQ students and and to help avoid LGBTQ students feeling alone, prompted or encouraged partially by the recent suicide of a bullied LGBTQ student.

No events like this should be required for students (nor would I imagine they would be in today's obviously divided poltiical climate) but we also shouldn't let LGBTQ students feel like pariah, like their identity is something they need to keep secret and never discussed.

What's wrong with occasional and purely voluntary, opt-in type supportive events for the LGBTQ school community?

My GodSon is gay and married another dude this summer. Brought his husband to our huge family event. We dealt with it, my GodSon is a good man -29ish now - educated - etc. Still, its the wrong direction and we sure as hell shouldn't be pushing this agenda in our schools. Grow up in California and attend an Ivy League school for further brainwashing and you get a gay liberal pulling for Antifa. Yep, my GodSon. Too much damn Soy!

As with all sin, we are called to repent. Ultimately, we are sinners; however, our goal is recognize those sins and do everything to not act on them. That said…

John 8:7 - I paraphrase, he who is without sin can cast the first stone. He then said, go and leave your life of sin.

Again, we are all sinners; however, we don't have to act on our sin.

Thanks for the reminder of why church attendance has been plummeting for decades.

Yes, the Devil is an evil one. He works on the best of us…

Seems to be a dichotomy out there. The churches with plummeting attendance are the ones who've gone modernist, while the traditional churches seem to be undergoing a revival of sorts.

I disagree somewhat , I think the revival is in churches that teach out of the Bible. These show churches that don't teach but instead are more interested in making you feel good are the ones losing attendance.

We had a great sermon on Sunday on Timothy 2 and pastor Zeb spoke upon this very topic.

Not in so many words, but I thought that is what I said. Meant, in any case.

i probably see modernist differently than you. You can be more modernist but still do the teaching right.

Yes, you can have a praise band, playing today's Christian music and teach the truth that is the Bible.

And no… that's not Christian Nationalism at all. It's a foundational view that God is the creator of all things that sent Jesus (the Son and perfect embodiment of God) to provide others, even to this day, an example of how we should strive to be every day.

I personally do not want to push a Christian life on others. That said, I will show how my relationship, with Christ, has allowed me to be more like him. Then, a person can choose to do what they want with it. Most Christians I know, do not push their faith on another person; however, they will express the greatness God has to offer. Again, every person has to be responsible for their own relationship…

I think the modernist movement has a different meaning than what you are describing and what I've just stated.

Christian nationalism is just the lefts' latest buzzword. But I do not care for "modern" worship practices and avoid churches that are into that.

My family are members of Salem Baptist Church in Apex. Our service is very traditional, outside of the type of music we have. So, if you change the music, we are very old school Baptist service.

So you're a Christian nationalist!

LOL
caryking
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jkpackfan said:

caryking said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

hokiewolf said:

This isn't a criticism of Trump, he's honestly fallen into the same trap as every other President since Carter. Hamas is a cancer, you have to completely eradicate it otherwise it will metastasize again.

This is the exact reason I didnt like his blustering about a "lasting ceasefire". Hamas staying in power assures that it wont last, it's an intermission.

I give him all the credit in the world for getting the hostages back to Israel, but I just dont see any sort of lasting peace with Hamas still in Gaza.

I think Trumps leadership in getting people to the table is admirable and (should) be applauded. That said, I agree Hamas is a bad actor and will probably never be normalized, in any way.

Eradicating them? I'm just not that enthusiastic about the US taking on another tribal type group. People, in that neck of the woods, need to solve this issue. The question is: does anyone there have the will to do it, along side of Israel?

Totally agree, this needs to be handled by the players in the region but thus far no one outside of Israel has seemed willing. Maybe this peace agreement will change things but I have my doubts.

Agree! If the money comes through for some of these countries stating they would help rebuild Gaza, then, hopefully, they will try and protect their investments.
Werewolf
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Fairfax County is a suburban area in VA just outside of DC heavily laden with DC big govt types of people. #Sieve and #Nappy's utopia for your schools there in NC.
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caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

Werewolf said:

s a weird take since it's obvious they're pushing the envelope of normative Presidential behavior

#Sieve, do You mean like this?



I have a feeling if you or our resident trans-haters had a gay or trans kid, you'd have a much different take on this topic. Like I've mentioned on here before, we have close friends with non-binary (and possibly trans) middle school kid. This kid was in our Y-Guides tribe (prior to starting to openly work through identity issues). Great family. Dad was a Big East track athlete. Not rad-lib. Not political. Not TDS'ers. Just a normal family, three kids. Lots of camping trips, Seagull, Seafarer, Rockmont, all the things. Really sweet and thoughtful and normal folks.

Having an LGBTQ kid is extremely stressful for the family to navigate because of the obvious challenge of helping your kid navigate a fundamental issue, and also due to the fear of bullying and isolation and resultant potential self-harm.

This appears to be a purely voluntary gathering intended to support LGBTQ students and and to help avoid LGBTQ students feeling alone, prompted or encouraged partially by the recent suicide of a bullied LGBTQ student.

No events like this should be required for students (nor would I imagine they would be in today's obviously divided poltiical climate) but we also shouldn't let LGBTQ students feel like pariah, like their identity is something they need to keep secret and never discussed.

What's wrong with occasional and purely voluntary, opt-in type supportive events for the LGBTQ school community?

My GodSon is gay and married another dude this summer. Brought his husband to our huge family event. We dealt with it, my GodSon is a good man -29ish now - educated - etc. Still, its the wrong direction and we sure as hell shouldn't be pushing this agenda in our schools. Grow up in California and attend an Ivy League school for further brainwashing and you get a gay liberal pulling for Antifa. Yep, my GodSon. Too much damn Soy!

As with all sin, we are called to repent. Ultimately, we are sinners; however, our goal is recognize those sins and do everything to not act on them. That said…

John 8:7 - I paraphrase, he who is without sin can cast the first stone. He then said, go and leave your life of sin.

Again, we are all sinners; however, we don't have to act on our sin.

Thanks for the reminder of why church attendance has been plummeting for decades.

Yes, the Devil is an evil one. He works on the best of us…

Seems to be a dichotomy out there. The churches with plummeting attendance are the ones who've gone modernist, while the traditional churches seem to be undergoing a revival of sorts.

I disagree somewhat , I think the revival is in churches that teach out of the Bible. These show churches that don't teach but instead are more interested in making you feel good are the ones losing attendance.

We had a great sermon on Sunday on Timothy 2 and pastor Zeb spoke upon this very topic.

Not in so many words, but I thought that is what I said. Meant, in any case.

i probably see modernist differently than you. You can be more modernist but still do the teaching right.

Yes, you can have a praise band, playing today's Christian music and teach the truth that is the Bible.

And no… that's not Christian Nationalism at all. It's a foundational view that God is the creator of all things that sent Jesus (the Son and perfect embodiment of God) to provide others, even to this day, an example of how we should strive to be every day.

I personally do not want to push a Christian life on others. That said, I will show how my relationship, with Christ, has allowed me to be more like him. Then, a person can choose to do what they want with it. Most Christians I know, do not push their faith on another person; however, they will express the greatness God has to offer. Again, every person has to be responsible for their own relationship…

I think the modernist movement has a different meaning than what you are describing and what I've just stated.

The problem is that the people most likely to say things like that are the ones who usually act the least Christ-like in public. The Water Cooler is a perfect example... this place is packed to the ceiling with vile contempt. Could you imagine Jesus hanging out here trashing "trannies" and feasting on librul tears? Could you imagine Jesus as a Fox News guest talking about how amazing Trump is? Obviously the idea is laughable to most people.

So what's a "MAGA Christian" to do when "but that doesn't count, we're all sinners!" stops working to justify the increasingly cartoonish hypocrisy? A "Charlie Kirk revival"!!! Just focus that "own the libs" energy, harness an arsenal of debate tricks, and presto! Now empathy is a sin and retribution is a virtue! Jesus was MAGA after all, we were just reading the bible all wrong! Full steam ahead with the "Christian" revolution!
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caryking said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

hokiewolf said:

This isn't a criticism of Trump, he's honestly fallen into the same trap as every other President since Carter. Hamas is a cancer, you have to completely eradicate it otherwise it will metastasize again.

This is the exact reason I didnt like his blustering about a "lasting ceasefire". Hamas staying in power assures that it wont last, it's an intermission.

I give him all the credit in the world for getting the hostages back to Israel, but I just dont see any sort of lasting peace with Hamas still in Gaza.

I think Trumps leadership in getting people to the table is admirable and (should) be applauded. That said, I agree Hamas is a bad actor and will probably never be normalized, in any way.

Eradicating them? I'm just not that enthusiastic about the US taking on another tribal type group. People, in that neck of the woods, need to solve this issue. The question is: does anyone there have the will to do it, along side of Israel?
Israel would be more than happy to take care of the problem. They just need unwavering public support from the Administration
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packgrad
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Says the guy that makes jokes about the Charlie Kirk assassination. Anybody that cares what your thoughts are on Christianity, or even decency, is a fool.
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SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

Werewolf said:

s a weird take since it's obvious they're pushing the envelope of normative Presidential behavior

#Sieve, do You mean like this?



I have a feeling if you or our resident trans-haters had a gay or trans kid, you'd have a much different take on this topic. Like I've mentioned on here before, we have close friends with non-binary (and possibly trans) middle school kid. This kid was in our Y-Guides tribe (prior to starting to openly work through identity issues). Great family. Dad was a Big East track athlete. Not rad-lib. Not political. Not TDS'ers. Just a normal family, three kids. Lots of camping trips, Seagull, Seafarer, Rockmont, all the things. Really sweet and thoughtful and normal folks.

Having an LGBTQ kid is extremely stressful for the family to navigate because of the obvious challenge of helping your kid navigate a fundamental issue, and also due to the fear of bullying and isolation and resultant potential self-harm.

This appears to be a purely voluntary gathering intended to support LGBTQ students and and to help avoid LGBTQ students feeling alone, prompted or encouraged partially by the recent suicide of a bullied LGBTQ student.

No events like this should be required for students (nor would I imagine they would be in today's obviously divided poltiical climate) but we also shouldn't let LGBTQ students feel like pariah, like their identity is something they need to keep secret and never discussed.

What's wrong with occasional and purely voluntary, opt-in type supportive events for the LGBTQ school community?

My GodSon is gay and married another dude this summer. Brought his husband to our huge family event. We dealt with it, my GodSon is a good man -29ish now - educated - etc. Still, its the wrong direction and we sure as hell shouldn't be pushing this agenda in our schools. Grow up in California and attend an Ivy League school for further brainwashing and you get a gay liberal pulling for Antifa. Yep, my GodSon. Too much damn Soy!

As with all sin, we are called to repent. Ultimately, we are sinners; however, our goal is recognize those sins and do everything to not act on them. That said…

John 8:7 - I paraphrase, he who is without sin can cast the first stone. He then said, go and leave your life of sin.

Again, we are all sinners; however, we don't have to act on our sin.

Thanks for the reminder of why church attendance has been plummeting for decades.

Yes, the Devil is an evil one. He works on the best of us…

Seems to be a dichotomy out there. The churches with plummeting attendance are the ones who've gone modernist, while the traditional churches seem to be undergoing a revival of sorts.

I disagree somewhat , I think the revival is in churches that teach out of the Bible. These show churches that don't teach but instead are more interested in making you feel good are the ones losing attendance.

We had a great sermon on Sunday on Timothy 2 and pastor Zeb spoke upon this very topic.

Not in so many words, but I thought that is what I said. Meant, in any case.

i probably see modernist differently than you. You can be more modernist but still do the teaching right.

Yes, you can have a praise band, playing today's Christian music and teach the truth that is the Bible.

And no… that's not Christian Nationalism at all. It's a foundational view that God is the creator of all things that sent Jesus (the Son and perfect embodiment of God) to provide others, even to this day, an example of how we should strive to be every day.

I personally do not want to push a Christian life on others. That said, I will show how my relationship, with Christ, has allowed me to be more like him. Then, a person can choose to do what they want with it. Most Christians I know, do not push their faith on another person; however, they will express the greatness God has to offer. Again, every person has to be responsible for their own relationship…

I think the modernist movement has a different meaning than what you are describing and what I've just stated.

The problem is that the people most likely to say things like that are the ones who usually act the least Christ-like in public. The Water Cooler is a perfect example... this place is packed to the ceiling with vile contempt. Could you imagine Jesus hanging out here trashing "trannies" and feasting on librul tears? Could you imagine Jesus as a Fox News guest talking about how amazing Trump is? Obviously the idea is laughable to most people.

So what's a "MAGA Christian" to do when "but that doesn't count, we're all sinners!" stops working to justify the increasingly cartoonish hypocrisy? A "Charlie Kirk revival"!!! Just focus that "own the libs" energy, harness an arsenal of debate tricks, and presto! Now empathy is a sin and retribution is a virtue! Jesus was MAGA after all, we were just reading the bible all wrong! Full steam ahead with the "Christian" revolution!

You have been a big participant in that "vile contempt" since your first post on this board so as you say cry me a river.
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hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

hokiewolf said:

This isn't a criticism of Trump, he's honestly fallen into the same trap as every other President since Carter. Hamas is a cancer, you have to completely eradicate it otherwise it will metastasize again.

This is the exact reason I didnt like his blustering about a "lasting ceasefire". Hamas staying in power assures that it wont last, it's an intermission.

I give him all the credit in the world for getting the hostages back to Israel, but I just dont see any sort of lasting peace with Hamas still in Gaza.

I think Trumps leadership in getting people to the table is admirable and (should) be applauded. That said, I agree Hamas is a bad actor and will probably never be normalized, in any way.

Eradicating them? I'm just not that enthusiastic about the US taking on another tribal type group. People, in that neck of the woods, need to solve this issue. The question is: does anyone there have the will to do it, along side of Israel?

Israel would be more than happy to take care of the problem. They just need unwavering public support from the Administration

Agreed and I could be wrong but if Hamas keeps violating the ceasefire I think this administration might get there.
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Werewolf said:

Fairfax County is a suburban area in VA just outside of DC heavily laden with DC big govt types of people. #Sieve and #Nappy's utopia for your schools there in NC.


Don't like it? Electing Deep State Spanberger won't help.
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jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

hokiewolf said:

This isn't a criticism of Trump, he's honestly fallen into the same trap as every other President since Carter. Hamas is a cancer, you have to completely eradicate it otherwise it will metastasize again.

This is the exact reason I didnt like his blustering about a "lasting ceasefire". Hamas staying in power assures that it wont last, it's an intermission.

I give him all the credit in the world for getting the hostages back to Israel, but I just dont see any sort of lasting peace with Hamas still in Gaza.

I think Trumps leadership in getting people to the table is admirable and (should) be applauded. That said, I agree Hamas is a bad actor and will probably never be normalized, in any way.

Eradicating them? I'm just not that enthusiastic about the US taking on another tribal type group. People, in that neck of the woods, need to solve this issue. The question is: does anyone there have the will to do it, along side of Israel?

Israel would be more than happy to take care of the problem. They just need unwavering public support from the Administration

Agreed and I could be wrong but if Hamas keeps violating the ceasefire I think this administration might get there.
Agree, I admire Trump for wanting the killing to end, then on the first day of the cease fire, Hamas is dragging Palestinians out in the street and executing them. Seems to me Hamas is the problem with Genocide, not Israel.
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Werewolf
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I grew up in VA and outside of DC metro and the Va Beach Newport New area, I don't see how a Democrat gets elected for statewide office right now. #ElectionFraud is all I can come up with.
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packgrad said:

Says the guy that makes jokes about the Charlie Kirk assassination. Anybody that cares what your thoughts are on Christianity, or even decency, is a fool.

Of course that never happened, but when has that ever stopped you?

Oh I forgot, effortless lying is a virtue now, too.
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caryking
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SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

Werewolf said:

s a weird take since it's obvious they're pushing the envelope of normative Presidential behavior

#Sieve, do You mean like this?



I have a feeling if you or our resident trans-haters had a gay or trans kid, you'd have a much different take on this topic. Like I've mentioned on here before, we have close friends with non-binary (and possibly trans) middle school kid. This kid was in our Y-Guides tribe (prior to starting to openly work through identity issues). Great family. Dad was a Big East track athlete. Not rad-lib. Not political. Not TDS'ers. Just a normal family, three kids. Lots of camping trips, Seagull, Seafarer, Rockmont, all the things. Really sweet and thoughtful and normal folks.

Having an LGBTQ kid is extremely stressful for the family to navigate because of the obvious challenge of helping your kid navigate a fundamental issue, and also due to the fear of bullying and isolation and resultant potential self-harm.

This appears to be a purely voluntary gathering intended to support LGBTQ students and and to help avoid LGBTQ students feeling alone, prompted or encouraged partially by the recent suicide of a bullied LGBTQ student.

No events like this should be required for students (nor would I imagine they would be in today's obviously divided poltiical climate) but we also shouldn't let LGBTQ students feel like pariah, like their identity is something they need to keep secret and never discussed.

What's wrong with occasional and purely voluntary, opt-in type supportive events for the LGBTQ school community?

My GodSon is gay and married another dude this summer. Brought his husband to our huge family event. We dealt with it, my GodSon is a good man -29ish now - educated - etc. Still, its the wrong direction and we sure as hell shouldn't be pushing this agenda in our schools. Grow up in California and attend an Ivy League school for further brainwashing and you get a gay liberal pulling for Antifa. Yep, my GodSon. Too much damn Soy!

As with all sin, we are called to repent. Ultimately, we are sinners; however, our goal is recognize those sins and do everything to not act on them. That said…

John 8:7 - I paraphrase, he who is without sin can cast the first stone. He then said, go and leave your life of sin.

Again, we are all sinners; however, we don't have to act on our sin.

Thanks for the reminder of why church attendance has been plummeting for decades.

Yes, the Devil is an evil one. He works on the best of us…

Seems to be a dichotomy out there. The churches with plummeting attendance are the ones who've gone modernist, while the traditional churches seem to be undergoing a revival of sorts.

I disagree somewhat , I think the revival is in churches that teach out of the Bible. These show churches that don't teach but instead are more interested in making you feel good are the ones losing attendance.

We had a great sermon on Sunday on Timothy 2 and pastor Zeb spoke upon this very topic.

Not in so many words, but I thought that is what I said. Meant, in any case.

i probably see modernist differently than you. You can be more modernist but still do the teaching right.

Yes, you can have a praise band, playing today's Christian music and teach the truth that is the Bible.

And no… that's not Christian Nationalism at all. It's a foundational view that God is the creator of all things that sent Jesus (the Son and perfect embodiment of God) to provide others, even to this day, an example of how we should strive to be every day.

I personally do not want to push a Christian life on others. That said, I will show how my relationship, with Christ, has allowed me to be more like him. Then, a person can choose to do what they want with it. Most Christians I know, do not push their faith on another person; however, they will express the greatness God has to offer. Again, every person has to be responsible for their own relationship…

I think the modernist movement has a different meaning than what you are describing and what I've just stated.

The problem is that the people most likely to say things like that are the ones who usually act the least Christ-like in public. The Water Cooler is a perfect example... this place is packed to the ceiling with vile contempt. Could you imagine Jesus hanging out here trashing "trannies" and feasting on librul tears? Could you imagine Jesus as a Fox News guest talking about how amazing Trump is? Obviously the idea is laughable to most people.

So what's a "MAGA Christian" to do when "but that doesn't count, we're all sinners!" stops working to justify the increasingly cartoonish hypocrisy? A "Charlie Kirk revival"!!! Just focus that "own the libs" energy, harness an arsenal of debate tricks, and presto! Now empathy is a sin and retribution is a virtue! Jesus was MAGA after all, we were just reading the bible all wrong! Full steam ahead with the "Christian" revolution!

Smapty, go read John 8…. That's exactly what Jesus would do.

if you are willing to do that, then you will see what we are called to do. Are we perfect? No! Should we have the courage to be more like Jesus? Yes! Can we? I don't think so…. That said, we have to try…. When our heart is convicted, we will recognize our sinful nature and try to be more like Jesus.

So, yes.. when post like yours come out, my automatic reaction is to fight back. That's the human nature in us all. Is it appropriate? No, it's not. Also, I would encourage you to recognize that a Christian is not on some pedestal that thinks they are better than you. If they do think that, then, they are missing the true nature of being a Christian. Humbleness…
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hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

hokiewolf said:

This isn't a criticism of Trump, he's honestly fallen into the same trap as every other President since Carter. Hamas is a cancer, you have to completely eradicate it otherwise it will metastasize again.

This is the exact reason I didnt like his blustering about a "lasting ceasefire". Hamas staying in power assures that it wont last, it's an intermission.

I give him all the credit in the world for getting the hostages back to Israel, but I just dont see any sort of lasting peace with Hamas still in Gaza.

I think Trumps leadership in getting people to the table is admirable and (should) be applauded. That said, I agree Hamas is a bad actor and will probably never be normalized, in any way.

Eradicating them? I'm just not that enthusiastic about the US taking on another tribal type group. People, in that neck of the woods, need to solve this issue. The question is: does anyone there have the will to do it, along side of Israel?

Israel would be more than happy to take care of the problem. They just need unwavering public support from the Administration

Perhaps. I think this admin would like to see wars stop. Is that Polyannaish? Probably so…. Remember, Trump stuck his neck out for Israel by bombing Iran. For that, he might want to see the fighting stopped.
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It's truly mindblowing how EVERYTHING Trump does triggers the left. Sheer lunacy. And they can count on their zombie minions to feign outrage as ordered.

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packgrad said:

Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

Civilized said:

What is the probability this is normal?

What is the probability this is legal?

This isn't a big deal.

Nothing is, apparently.


But you don't have TDS....

"LOLOLOL"

Poor civ.



bUt IT's IS deFf rENt wHEn TrUmp dO iT!1
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Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Werewolf said:

s a weird take since it's obvious they're pushing the envelope of normative Presidential behavior

#Sieve, do You mean like this?



I have a feeling if you or our resident trans-haters had a gay or trans kid, you'd have a much different take on this topic. Like I've mentioned on here before, we have close friends with non-binary (and possibly trans) middle school kid. This kid was in our Y-Guides tribe (prior to starting to openly work through identity issues). Great family. Dad was a Big East track athlete. Not rad-lib. Not political. Not TDS'ers. Just a normal family, three kids. Lots of camping trips, Seagull, Seafarer, Rockmont, all the things. Really sweet and thoughtful and normal folks.

Having an LGBTQ kid is extremely stressful for the family to navigate because of the obvious challenge of helping your kid navigate a fundamental issue, and also due to the fear of bullying and isolation and resultant potential self-harm.

This appears to be a purely voluntary gathering intended to support LGBTQ students and and to help avoid LGBTQ students feeling alone, prompted or encouraged partially by the recent suicide of a bullied LGBTQ student.

No events like this should be required for students (nor would I imagine they would be in today's obviously divided poltiical climate) but we also shouldn't let LGBTQ students feel like pariah, like their identity is something they need to keep secret and never discussed.

What's wrong with occasional and purely voluntary, opt-in type supportive events for the LGBTQ school community?

Suggest a good bible teaching church. It can't hurt…

Yeah, it obviously can.

Go read about sexual orientation and identity change efforts and their impacts on mental health of LGBTQ kids.

It literally increases PTSD, depression, and suicide attempts in affected kids.

We're not praying the gay away Cary.


Yep, cultivate this **** when you can, #Sieve. #Sieve is in favor of decreasing the chance of PTSD, depression and suicide attempts for all children. Just like this.



These people are sick in the head and what kind of person cheers for this nonsense?

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jkpackfan said:

packgrad said:

Dems are worried about ball rooms and electing racists like this. It's no wonder their approval rating is in the garbage can.



Yep and you will hear crickets from the loons.


I think Smapty lives up there? Hopefully he'll get to pay more in taxes.
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SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

Werewolf said:

s a weird take since it's obvious they're pushing the envelope of normative Presidential behavior

#Sieve, do You mean like this?



I have a feeling if you or our resident trans-haters had a gay or trans kid, you'd have a much different take on this topic. Like I've mentioned on here before, we have close friends with non-binary (and possibly trans) middle school kid. This kid was in our Y-Guides tribe (prior to starting to openly work through identity issues). Great family. Dad was a Big East track athlete. Not rad-lib. Not political. Not TDS'ers. Just a normal family, three kids. Lots of camping trips, Seagull, Seafarer, Rockmont, all the things. Really sweet and thoughtful and normal folks.

Having an LGBTQ kid is extremely stressful for the family to navigate because of the obvious challenge of helping your kid navigate a fundamental issue, and also due to the fear of bullying and isolation and resultant potential self-harm.

This appears to be a purely voluntary gathering intended to support LGBTQ students and and to help avoid LGBTQ students feeling alone, prompted or encouraged partially by the recent suicide of a bullied LGBTQ student.

No events like this should be required for students (nor would I imagine they would be in today's obviously divided poltiical climate) but we also shouldn't let LGBTQ students feel like pariah, like their identity is something they need to keep secret and never discussed.

What's wrong with occasional and purely voluntary, opt-in type supportive events for the LGBTQ school community?

My GodSon is gay and married another dude this summer. Brought his husband to our huge family event. We dealt with it, my GodSon is a good man -29ish now - educated - etc. Still, its the wrong direction and we sure as hell shouldn't be pushing this agenda in our schools. Grow up in California and attend an Ivy League school for further brainwashing and you get a gay liberal pulling for Antifa. Yep, my GodSon. Too much damn Soy!

As with all sin, we are called to repent. Ultimately, we are sinners; however, our goal is recognize those sins and do everything to not act on them. That said…

John 8:7 - I paraphrase, he who is without sin can cast the first stone. He then said, go and leave your life of sin.

Again, we are all sinners; however, we don't have to act on our sin.

Thanks for the reminder of why church attendance has been plummeting for decades.

Yes, the Devil is an evil one. He works on the best of us…

Seems to be a dichotomy out there. The churches with plummeting attendance are the ones who've gone modernist, while the traditional churches seem to be undergoing a revival of sorts.

I disagree somewhat , I think the revival is in churches that teach out of the Bible. These show churches that don't teach but instead are more interested in making you feel good are the ones losing attendance.

We had a great sermon on Sunday on Timothy 2 and pastor Zeb spoke upon this very topic.

Not in so many words, but I thought that is what I said. Meant, in any case.

i probably see modernist differently than you. You can be more modernist but still do the teaching right.

Yes, you can have a praise band, playing today's Christian music and teach the truth that is the Bible.

And no… that's not Christian Nationalism at all. It's a foundational view that God is the creator of all things that sent Jesus (the Son and perfect embodiment of God) to provide others, even to this day, an example of how we should strive to be every day.

I personally do not want to push a Christian life on others. That said, I will show how my relationship, with Christ, has allowed me to be more like him. Then, a person can choose to do what they want with it. Most Christians I know, do not push their faith on another person; however, they will express the greatness God has to offer. Again, every person has to be responsible for their own relationship…

I think the modernist movement has a different meaning than what you are describing and what I've just stated.

The problem is that the people most likely to say things like that are the ones who usually act the least Christ-like in public. The Water Cooler is a perfect example... this place is packed to the ceiling with vile contempt. Could you imagine Jesus hanging out here trashing "trannies" and feasting on librul tears? Could you imagine Jesus as a Fox News guest talking about how amazing Trump is? Obviously the idea is laughable to most people.

So what's a "MAGA Christian" to do when "but that doesn't count, we're all sinners!" stops working to justify the increasingly cartoonish hypocrisy? A "Charlie Kirk revival"!!! Just focus that "own the libs" energy, harness an arsenal of debate tricks, and presto! Now empathy is a sin and retribution is a virtue! Jesus was MAGA after all, we were just reading the bible all wrong! Full steam ahead with the "Christian" revolution!


The left hates religion. You trying to guilt trip others using religion is laughable.

Peddle your BS somewhere else.
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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

Werewolf said:

s a weird take since it's obvious they're pushing the envelope of normative Presidential behavior

#Sieve, do You mean like this?



I have a feeling if you or our resident trans-haters had a gay or trans kid, you'd have a much different take on this topic. Like I've mentioned on here before, we have close friends with non-binary (and possibly trans) middle school kid. This kid was in our Y-Guides tribe (prior to starting to openly work through identity issues). Great family. Dad was a Big East track athlete. Not rad-lib. Not political. Not TDS'ers. Just a normal family, three kids. Lots of camping trips, Seagull, Seafarer, Rockmont, all the things. Really sweet and thoughtful and normal folks.

Having an LGBTQ kid is extremely stressful for the family to navigate because of the obvious challenge of helping your kid navigate a fundamental issue, and also due to the fear of bullying and isolation and resultant potential self-harm.

This appears to be a purely voluntary gathering intended to support LGBTQ students and and to help avoid LGBTQ students feeling alone, prompted or encouraged partially by the recent suicide of a bullied LGBTQ student.

No events like this should be required for students (nor would I imagine they would be in today's obviously divided poltiical climate) but we also shouldn't let LGBTQ students feel like pariah, like their identity is something they need to keep secret and never discussed.

What's wrong with occasional and purely voluntary, opt-in type supportive events for the LGBTQ school community?

My GodSon is gay and married another dude this summer. Brought his husband to our huge family event. We dealt with it, my GodSon is a good man -29ish now - educated - etc. Still, its the wrong direction and we sure as hell shouldn't be pushing this agenda in our schools. Grow up in California and attend an Ivy League school for further brainwashing and you get a gay liberal pulling for Antifa. Yep, my GodSon. Too much damn Soy!

As with all sin, we are called to repent. Ultimately, we are sinners; however, our goal is recognize those sins and do everything to not act on them. That said…

John 8:7 - I paraphrase, he who is without sin can cast the first stone. He then said, go and leave your life of sin.

Again, we are all sinners; however, we don't have to act on our sin.

Thanks for the reminder of why church attendance has been plummeting for decades.

Yes, the Devil is an evil one. He works on the best of us…

Seems to be a dichotomy out there. The churches with plummeting attendance are the ones who've gone modernist, while the traditional churches seem to be undergoing a revival of sorts.

I disagree somewhat , I think the revival is in churches that teach out of the Bible. These show churches that don't teach but instead are more interested in making you feel good are the ones losing attendance.

We had a great sermon on Sunday on Timothy 2 and pastor Zeb spoke upon this very topic.

Not in so many words, but I thought that is what I said. Meant, in any case.

i probably see modernist differently than you. You can be more modernist but still do the teaching right.

Yes, you can have a praise band, playing today's Christian music and teach the truth that is the Bible.

And no… that's not Christian Nationalism at all. It's a foundational view that God is the creator of all things that sent Jesus (the Son and perfect embodiment of God) to provide others, even to this day, an example of how we should strive to be every day.

I personally do not want to push a Christian life on others. That said, I will show how my relationship, with Christ, has allowed me to be more like him. Then, a person can choose to do what they want with it. Most Christians I know, do not push their faith on another person; however, they will express the greatness God has to offer. Again, every person has to be responsible for their own relationship…

I think the modernist movement has a different meaning than what you are describing and what I've just stated.

The problem is that the people most likely to say things like that are the ones who usually act the least Christ-like in public. The Water Cooler is a perfect example... this place is packed to the ceiling with vile contempt. Could you imagine Jesus hanging out here trashing "trannies" and feasting on librul tears? Could you imagine Jesus as a Fox News guest talking about how amazing Trump is? Obviously the idea is laughable to most people.

So what's a "MAGA Christian" to do when "but that doesn't count, we're all sinners!" stops working to justify the increasingly cartoonish hypocrisy? A "Charlie Kirk revival"!!! Just focus that "own the libs" energy, harness an arsenal of debate tricks, and presto! Now empathy is a sin and retribution is a virtue! Jesus was MAGA after all, we were just reading the bible all wrong! Full steam ahead with the "Christian" revolution!


The left hates religion. You trying to guilt trip others using religion is laughable.

Peddle your BS somewhere else.

I like how you just edited your "send them all to the ovens!" comment. Let me guess, you're a "Christian", too?

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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

Werewolf said:

s a weird take since it's obvious they're pushing the envelope of normative Presidential behavior

#Sieve, do You mean like this?



I have a feeling if you or our resident trans-haters had a gay or trans kid, you'd have a much different take on this topic. Like I've mentioned on here before, we have close friends with non-binary (and possibly trans) middle school kid. This kid was in our Y-Guides tribe (prior to starting to openly work through identity issues). Great family. Dad was a Big East track athlete. Not rad-lib. Not political. Not TDS'ers. Just a normal family, three kids. Lots of camping trips, Seagull, Seafarer, Rockmont, all the things. Really sweet and thoughtful and normal folks.

Having an LGBTQ kid is extremely stressful for the family to navigate because of the obvious challenge of helping your kid navigate a fundamental issue, and also due to the fear of bullying and isolation and resultant potential self-harm.

This appears to be a purely voluntary gathering intended to support LGBTQ students and and to help avoid LGBTQ students feeling alone, prompted or encouraged partially by the recent suicide of a bullied LGBTQ student.

No events like this should be required for students (nor would I imagine they would be in today's obviously divided poltiical climate) but we also shouldn't let LGBTQ students feel like pariah, like their identity is something they need to keep secret and never discussed.

What's wrong with occasional and purely voluntary, opt-in type supportive events for the LGBTQ school community?

My GodSon is gay and married another dude this summer. Brought his husband to our huge family event. We dealt with it, my GodSon is a good man -29ish now - educated - etc. Still, its the wrong direction and we sure as hell shouldn't be pushing this agenda in our schools. Grow up in California and attend an Ivy League school for further brainwashing and you get a gay liberal pulling for Antifa. Yep, my GodSon. Too much damn Soy!

As with all sin, we are called to repent. Ultimately, we are sinners; however, our goal is recognize those sins and do everything to not act on them. That said…

John 8:7 - I paraphrase, he who is without sin can cast the first stone. He then said, go and leave your life of sin.

Again, we are all sinners; however, we don't have to act on our sin.

Thanks for the reminder of why church attendance has been plummeting for decades.

Yes, the Devil is an evil one. He works on the best of us…

Seems to be a dichotomy out there. The churches with plummeting attendance are the ones who've gone modernist, while the traditional churches seem to be undergoing a revival of sorts.

I disagree somewhat , I think the revival is in churches that teach out of the Bible. These show churches that don't teach but instead are more interested in making you feel good are the ones losing attendance.

We had a great sermon on Sunday on Timothy 2 and pastor Zeb spoke upon this very topic.

Not in so many words, but I thought that is what I said. Meant, in any case.

i probably see modernist differently than you. You can be more modernist but still do the teaching right.

Yes, you can have a praise band, playing today's Christian music and teach the truth that is the Bible.

And no… that's not Christian Nationalism at all. It's a foundational view that God is the creator of all things that sent Jesus (the Son and perfect embodiment of God) to provide others, even to this day, an example of how we should strive to be every day.

I personally do not want to push a Christian life on others. That said, I will show how my relationship, with Christ, has allowed me to be more like him. Then, a person can choose to do what they want with it. Most Christians I know, do not push their faith on another person; however, they will express the greatness God has to offer. Again, every person has to be responsible for their own relationship…

I think the modernist movement has a different meaning than what you are describing and what I've just stated.

The problem is that the people most likely to say things like that are the ones who usually act the least Christ-like in public. The Water Cooler is a perfect example... this place is packed to the ceiling with vile contempt. Could you imagine Jesus hanging out here trashing "trannies" and feasting on librul tears? Could you imagine Jesus as a Fox News guest talking about how amazing Trump is? Obviously the idea is laughable to most people.

So what's a "MAGA Christian" to do when "but that doesn't count, we're all sinners!" stops working to justify the increasingly cartoonish hypocrisy? A "Charlie Kirk revival"!!! Just focus that "own the libs" energy, harness an arsenal of debate tricks, and presto! Now empathy is a sin and retribution is a virtue! Jesus was MAGA after all, we were just reading the bible all wrong! Full steam ahead with the "Christian" revolution!


The left hates religion. You trying to guilt trip others using religion is laughable.

Peddle your BS somewhere else.

I like how you just edited your "send them all to the ovens!" comment. Let me guess, you're a "Christian", too?




Smapty…. Come on now…. You can be better, right?
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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

caryking said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

Werewolf said:

s a weird take since it's obvious they're pushing the envelope of normative Presidential behavior

#Sieve, do You mean like this?



I have a feeling if you or our resident trans-haters had a gay or trans kid, you'd have a much different take on this topic. Like I've mentioned on here before, we have close friends with non-binary (and possibly trans) middle school kid. This kid was in our Y-Guides tribe (prior to starting to openly work through identity issues). Great family. Dad was a Big East track athlete. Not rad-lib. Not political. Not TDS'ers. Just a normal family, three kids. Lots of camping trips, Seagull, Seafarer, Rockmont, all the things. Really sweet and thoughtful and normal folks.

Having an LGBTQ kid is extremely stressful for the family to navigate because of the obvious challenge of helping your kid navigate a fundamental issue, and also due to the fear of bullying and isolation and resultant potential self-harm.

This appears to be a purely voluntary gathering intended to support LGBTQ students and and to help avoid LGBTQ students feeling alone, prompted or encouraged partially by the recent suicide of a bullied LGBTQ student.

No events like this should be required for students (nor would I imagine they would be in today's obviously divided poltiical climate) but we also shouldn't let LGBTQ students feel like pariah, like their identity is something they need to keep secret and never discussed.

What's wrong with occasional and purely voluntary, opt-in type supportive events for the LGBTQ school community?

My GodSon is gay and married another dude this summer. Brought his husband to our huge family event. We dealt with it, my GodSon is a good man -29ish now - educated - etc. Still, its the wrong direction and we sure as hell shouldn't be pushing this agenda in our schools. Grow up in California and attend an Ivy League school for further brainwashing and you get a gay liberal pulling for Antifa. Yep, my GodSon. Too much damn Soy!

As with all sin, we are called to repent. Ultimately, we are sinners; however, our goal is recognize those sins and do everything to not act on them. That said…

John 8:7 - I paraphrase, he who is without sin can cast the first stone. He then said, go and leave your life of sin.

Again, we are all sinners; however, we don't have to act on our sin.

Thanks for the reminder of why church attendance has been plummeting for decades.

Yes, the Devil is an evil one. He works on the best of us…

Seems to be a dichotomy out there. The churches with plummeting attendance are the ones who've gone modernist, while the traditional churches seem to be undergoing a revival of sorts.

I disagree somewhat , I think the revival is in churches that teach out of the Bible. These show churches that don't teach but instead are more interested in making you feel good are the ones losing attendance.

We had a great sermon on Sunday on Timothy 2 and pastor Zeb spoke upon this very topic.

Not in so many words, but I thought that is what I said. Meant, in any case.

i probably see modernist differently than you. You can be more modernist but still do the teaching right.

Yes, you can have a praise band, playing today's Christian music and teach the truth that is the Bible.

And no… that's not Christian Nationalism at all. It's a foundational view that God is the creator of all things that sent Jesus (the Son and perfect embodiment of God) to provide others, even to this day, an example of how we should strive to be every day.

I personally do not want to push a Christian life on others. That said, I will show how my relationship, with Christ, has allowed me to be more like him. Then, a person can choose to do what they want with it. Most Christians I know, do not push their faith on another person; however, they will express the greatness God has to offer. Again, every person has to be responsible for their own relationship…

I think the modernist movement has a different meaning than what you are describing and what I've just stated.

The problem is that the people most likely to say things like that are the ones who usually act the least Christ-like in public. The Water Cooler is a perfect example... this place is packed to the ceiling with vile contempt. Could you imagine Jesus hanging out here trashing "trannies" and feasting on librul tears? Could you imagine Jesus as a Fox News guest talking about how amazing Trump is? Obviously the idea is laughable to most people.

So what's a "MAGA Christian" to do when "but that doesn't count, we're all sinners!" stops working to justify the increasingly cartoonish hypocrisy? A "Charlie Kirk revival"!!! Just focus that "own the libs" energy, harness an arsenal of debate tricks, and presto! Now empathy is a sin and retribution is a virtue! Jesus was MAGA after all, we were just reading the bible all wrong! Full steam ahead with the "Christian" revolution!


The left hates religion. You trying to guilt trip others using religion is laughable.

Peddle your BS somewhere else.

I like how you just edited your "send them all to the ovens!" comment. Let me guess, you're a "Christian", too?




#Nappy, a guessing man would speculate you're an atheist, but why don't you go ahead and tell us since you so easily critique others' faith.
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#Nappy's stick gets turned into that #hickoryswitch I was telling him about, LOL.
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