TRUMP 2024

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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Uh oh! A new KFF survey has the vast majority of Americans in favor of reinstating the Obamacare subsidies that just got gutted, including 57% of MAGA voters!

You may want to yell about illegals a little louder, it doesn't seem to be working this time.

lol let's reinstate something that was a temporary gimmick during COVID that didn't fix anything in the ACA exchanges.

The system doesn't work, the tax credit isn't going to save it. It only masks the fact the passing Obama Care did nothing to stop healthcare costs increasing.

Let's look at the KFF study:

"Since 2014, the ACA has capped how much subsidized enrollees pay for their health insurance premiums at a certain percent of their income, on a sliding scale, with the federal government covering the remainder in the form of a tax credit. Enhanced tax credits work by further lowering the share of income ACA Marketplace enrollees pay for a plan. For example, with the enhanced tax credits in place, an individual making $28,000 will pay no more than around 1% ($325) of their annual income towards a benchmark plan. If the enhanced tax credits expire, this same individual would pay nearly 6% of their income ($1,562 annually) towards a benchmark plan in 2026. In other words, if the enhanced tax credits expire, this individual would experience an increase of $1,238 in their annual premium payments net of the tax credit."

This is such a ridiculously low cost for health insurance it's not sustainable.

I would rather pay to enroll these people into a jobs program, at least there's a cost benefit to the GDP there.


Great conversation, that we should be having nationally. You know, an actual conversation, about actual, serious policy, that dives into nuances and debates the hard, consequential stuff.

Instead, we're doing the ER visit version of the Haitians eating cats and dogs in Springfield because this Administration and this feckless and spineless Republican Congress has zero desire to do the real work of leading and policy-making and instead want to govern using executive powers and meme-driving authoritarian culture and identity grievance wars.


One could also argue the democrats are in no way interested in working with republicans but instead just GET TRUMP and oppose any all legislative measures.


You're right, one could argue that, but not with a straight face.

What good-faith attempt has been made to legislate anything consequential this term?

Congress is cracking a 40 and just sitting back enjoying watching Trump practice how illiberal he can be.

Where's the legislation? Where's the evidence they have any desire to check Trump when he's out of line, aka do their job?

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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Uh oh! A new KFF survey has the vast majority of Americans in favor of reinstating the Obamacare subsidies that just got gutted, including 57% of MAGA voters!

You may want to yell about illegals a little louder, it doesn't seem to be working this time.

lol let's reinstate something that was a temporary gimmick during COVID that didn't fix anything in the ACA exchanges.

The system doesn't work, the tax credit isn't going to save it. It only masks the fact the passing Obama Care did nothing to stop healthcare costs increasing.

Let's look at the KFF study:

"Since 2014, the ACA has capped how much subsidized enrollees pay for their health insurance premiums at a certain percent of their income, on a sliding scale, with the federal government covering the remainder in the form of a tax credit. Enhanced tax credits work by further lowering the share of income ACA Marketplace enrollees pay for a plan. For example, with the enhanced tax credits in place, an individual making $28,000 will pay no more than around 1% ($325) of their annual income towards a benchmark plan. If the enhanced tax credits expire, this same individual would pay nearly 6% of their income ($1,562 annually) towards a benchmark plan in 2026. In other words, if the enhanced tax credits expire, this individual would experience an increase of $1,238 in their annual premium payments net of the tax credit."

This is such a ridiculously low cost for health insurance it's not sustainable.

I would rather pay to enroll these people into a jobs program, at least there's a cost benefit to the GDP there.


Great conversation, that we should be having nationally. You know, an actual conversation, about actual, serious policy, that dives into nuances and debates the hard, consequential stuff.

Instead, we're doing the ER visit version of the Haitians eating cats and dogs in Springfield because this Administration and this feckless and spineless Republican Congress has zero desire to do the real work of leading and policy-making and instead want to govern using executive powers and meme-driving authoritarian culture and identity grievance wars.


One could also argue the democrats are in no way interested in working with republicans but instead just GET TRUMP and oppose any all legislative measures.


You're right, one could argue that, but not with a straight face.

What good-faith attempt has been made to legislate anything consequential this term?

Congress is cracking a 40 and just sitting back enjoying watching Trump practice how illiberal he can be.

Where's the legislation? Where's the evidence they have any desire to check Trump when he's out of line, aka do their job?




How about trying to keep the government open and democrats won't play ball because they are worried about the far left?
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You have more "studies" propagandist? Lol. Post them, brainwashed minion.

Speaking of brainwashed. Remember when you used to say AAP was apolitical? lol. Sheep.
Werewolf
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I knew #Nappy joined his compatriots out in Portland, LOL. See ya #Nappy.
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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Uh oh! A new KFF survey has the vast majority of Americans in favor of reinstating the Obamacare subsidies that just got gutted, including 57% of MAGA voters!

You may want to yell about illegals a little louder, it doesn't seem to be working this time.

lol let's reinstate something that was a temporary gimmick during COVID that didn't fix anything in the ACA exchanges.

The system doesn't work, the tax credit isn't going to save it. It only masks the fact the passing Obama Care did nothing to stop healthcare costs increasing.

Let's look at the KFF study:

"Since 2014, the ACA has capped how much subsidized enrollees pay for their health insurance premiums at a certain percent of their income, on a sliding scale, with the federal government covering the remainder in the form of a tax credit. Enhanced tax credits work by further lowering the share of income ACA Marketplace enrollees pay for a plan. For example, with the enhanced tax credits in place, an individual making $28,000 will pay no more than around 1% ($325) of their annual income towards a benchmark plan. If the enhanced tax credits expire, this same individual would pay nearly 6% of their income ($1,562 annually) towards a benchmark plan in 2026. In other words, if the enhanced tax credits expire, this individual would experience an increase of $1,238 in their annual premium payments net of the tax credit."

This is such a ridiculously low cost for health insurance it's not sustainable.

I would rather pay to enroll these people into a jobs program, at least there's a cost benefit to the GDP there.


Great conversation, that we should be having nationally. You know, an actual conversation, about actual, serious policy, that dives into nuances and debates the hard, consequential stuff.

Instead, we're doing the ER visit version of the Haitians eating cats and dogs in Springfield because this Administration and this feckless and spineless Republican Congress has zero desire to do the real work of leading and policy-making and instead want to govern using executive powers and meme-driving authoritarian culture and identity grievance wars.


One could also argue the democrats are in no way interested in working with republicans but instead just GET TRUMP and oppose any all legislative measures.


You're right, one could argue that, but not with a straight face.

What good-faith attempt has been made to legislate anything consequential this term?

Congress is cracking a 40 and just sitting back enjoying watching Trump practice how illiberal he can be.

Where's the legislation? Where's the evidence they have any desire to check Trump when he's out of line, aka do their job?




How about trying to keep the government open and democrats won't play ball because they are worried about the far left?


Dems aren't worried about government. They're worried about killing/jailing their political opponents.
Werewolf
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#Sieve's side's voter rolls are being purged a million at a time.
Gulfstream4
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packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Uh oh! A new KFF survey has the vast majority of Americans in favor of reinstating the Obamacare subsidies that just got gutted, including 57% of MAGA voters!

You may want to yell about illegals a little louder, it doesn't seem to be working this time.

lol let's reinstate something that was a temporary gimmick during COVID that didn't fix anything in the ACA exchanges.

The system doesn't work, the tax credit isn't going to save it. It only masks the fact the passing Obama Care did nothing to stop healthcare costs increasing.

Let's look at the KFF study:

"Since 2014, the ACA has capped how much subsidized enrollees pay for their health insurance premiums at a certain percent of their income, on a sliding scale, with the federal government covering the remainder in the form of a tax credit. Enhanced tax credits work by further lowering the share of income ACA Marketplace enrollees pay for a plan. For example, with the enhanced tax credits in place, an individual making $28,000 will pay no more than around 1% ($325) of their annual income towards a benchmark plan. If the enhanced tax credits expire, this same individual would pay nearly 6% of their income ($1,562 annually) towards a benchmark plan in 2026. In other words, if the enhanced tax credits expire, this individual would experience an increase of $1,238 in their annual premium payments net of the tax credit."

This is such a ridiculously low cost for health insurance it's not sustainable.

I would rather pay to enroll these people into a jobs program, at least there's a cost benefit to the GDP there.


Great conversation, that we should be having nationally. You know, an actual conversation, about actual, serious policy, that dives into nuances and debates the hard, consequential stuff.

Instead, we're doing the ER visit version of the Haitians eating cats and dogs in Springfield because this Administration and this feckless and spineless Republican Congress has zero desire to do the real work of leading and policy-making and instead want to govern using executive powers and meme-driving authoritarian culture and identity grievance wars.


One could also argue the democrats are in no way interested in working with republicans but instead just GET TRUMP and oppose any all legislative measures.


You're right, one could argue that, but not with a straight face.

What good-faith attempt has been made to legislate anything consequential this term?

Congress is cracking a 40 and just sitting back enjoying watching Trump practice how illiberal he can be.

Where's the legislation? Where's the evidence they have any desire to check Trump when he's out of line, aka do their job?




How about trying to keep the government open and democrats won't play ball because they are worried about the far left?


Dems aren't worried about government. They're worried about killing/jailing their political opponents.


Well…that's easier to do than work for the betterment of the American people.
Civilized
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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Uh oh! A new KFF survey has the vast majority of Americans in favor of reinstating the Obamacare subsidies that just got gutted, including 57% of MAGA voters!

You may want to yell about illegals a little louder, it doesn't seem to be working this time.

lol let's reinstate something that was a temporary gimmick during COVID that didn't fix anything in the ACA exchanges.

The system doesn't work, the tax credit isn't going to save it. It only masks the fact the passing Obama Care did nothing to stop healthcare costs increasing.

Let's look at the KFF study:

"Since 2014, the ACA has capped how much subsidized enrollees pay for their health insurance premiums at a certain percent of their income, on a sliding scale, with the federal government covering the remainder in the form of a tax credit. Enhanced tax credits work by further lowering the share of income ACA Marketplace enrollees pay for a plan. For example, with the enhanced tax credits in place, an individual making $28,000 will pay no more than around 1% ($325) of their annual income towards a benchmark plan. If the enhanced tax credits expire, this same individual would pay nearly 6% of their income ($1,562 annually) towards a benchmark plan in 2026. In other words, if the enhanced tax credits expire, this individual would experience an increase of $1,238 in their annual premium payments net of the tax credit."

This is such a ridiculously low cost for health insurance it's not sustainable.

I would rather pay to enroll these people into a jobs program, at least there's a cost benefit to the GDP there.


Great conversation, that we should be having nationally. You know, an actual conversation, about actual, serious policy, that dives into nuances and debates the hard, consequential stuff.

Instead, we're doing the ER visit version of the Haitians eating cats and dogs in Springfield because this Administration and this feckless and spineless Republican Congress has zero desire to do the real work of leading and policy-making and instead want to govern using executive powers and meme-driving authoritarian culture and identity grievance wars.


One could also argue the democrats are in no way interested in working with republicans but instead just GET TRUMP and oppose any all legislative measures.


You're right, one could argue that, but not with a straight face.

What good-faith attempt has been made to legislate anything consequential this term?

Congress is cracking a 40 and just sitting back enjoying watching Trump practice how illiberal he can be.

Where's the legislation? Where's the evidence they have any desire to check Trump when he's out of line, aka do their job?




How about trying to keep the government open and democrats won't play ball because they are worried about the far left?


What far-left capture are you imagining?

What does the far left want that the moderates feel the need to appease?
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Werewolf said:

#Sieve's side's voter rolls are being purged a million at a time.



Awesomeness
packgrad
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Civ argues he isn't brainwashed, but like a good minion at the same time as the cult did, he said Vance is "weird" and he called Walz "Americas daddy".

Two things are clear.

1. Very brainwashed
2. Very beta.
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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Uh oh! A new KFF survey has the vast majority of Americans in favor of reinstating the Obamacare subsidies that just got gutted, including 57% of MAGA voters!

You may want to yell about illegals a little louder, it doesn't seem to be working this time.

lol let's reinstate something that was a temporary gimmick during COVID that didn't fix anything in the ACA exchanges.

The system doesn't work, the tax credit isn't going to save it. It only masks the fact the passing Obama Care did nothing to stop healthcare costs increasing.

Let's look at the KFF study:

"Since 2014, the ACA has capped how much subsidized enrollees pay for their health insurance premiums at a certain percent of their income, on a sliding scale, with the federal government covering the remainder in the form of a tax credit. Enhanced tax credits work by further lowering the share of income ACA Marketplace enrollees pay for a plan. For example, with the enhanced tax credits in place, an individual making $28,000 will pay no more than around 1% ($325) of their annual income towards a benchmark plan. If the enhanced tax credits expire, this same individual would pay nearly 6% of their income ($1,562 annually) towards a benchmark plan in 2026. In other words, if the enhanced tax credits expire, this individual would experience an increase of $1,238 in their annual premium payments net of the tax credit."

This is such a ridiculously low cost for health insurance it's not sustainable.

I would rather pay to enroll these people into a jobs program, at least there's a cost benefit to the GDP there.


Great conversation, that we should be having nationally. You know, an actual conversation, about actual, serious policy, that dives into nuances and debates the hard, consequential stuff.

Instead, we're doing the ER visit version of the Haitians eating cats and dogs in Springfield because this Administration and this feckless and spineless Republican Congress has zero desire to do the real work of leading and policy-making and instead want to govern using executive powers and meme-driving authoritarian culture and identity grievance wars.


One could also argue the democrats are in no way interested in working with republicans but instead just GET TRUMP and oppose any all legislative measures.


You're right, one could argue that, but not with a straight face.

What good-faith attempt has been made to legislate anything consequential this term?

Congress is cracking a 40 and just sitting back enjoying watching Trump practice how illiberal he can be.

Where's the legislation? Where's the evidence they have any desire to check Trump when he's out of line, aka do their job?




How about trying to keep the government open and democrats won't play ball because they are worried about the far left?


What far-left capture are you imagining?

What does the far left want that the moderates feel the need to appease?


Alexandria Nina Pinta Sant Maria Ocasio Cortez wants Chuck Schumer's job.
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packgrad said:

Civ argues he isn't brainwashed, but like a good minion at the same time as the cult did, he said Vance is "weird" and he called Walz "Americas daddy".

Two things are clear.

1. Very brainwashed
2. Very beta.

Let's hope #Sieve doesn't have a concussion.
Werewolf
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Looks like #Nappy got skinned up, LOL
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Werewolf said:

packgrad said:

Civ argues he isn't brainwashed, but like a good minion at the same time as the cult did, he said Vance is "weird" and he called Walz "Americas daddy".

Two things are clear.

1. Very brainwashed
2. Very beta.

Let's hope #Sieve doesn't have a concussion.



I enjoyed that.
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Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

packgrad said:

Civ argues he isn't brainwashed, but like a good minion at the same time as the cult did, he said Vance is "weird" and he called Walz "Americas daddy".

Two things are clear.

1. Very brainwashed
2. Very beta.

Let's hope #Sieve doesn't have a concussion.



I enjoyed that.

At a couple of months shy of 70, I'd like to get in on some of that 'fat ass lazy slob'.
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packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Uh oh! A new KFF survey has the vast majority of Americans in favor of reinstating the Obamacare subsidies that just got gutted, including 57% of MAGA voters!

You may want to yell about illegals a little louder, it doesn't seem to be working this time.

lol let's reinstate something that was a temporary gimmick during COVID that didn't fix anything in the ACA exchanges.

The system doesn't work, the tax credit isn't going to save it. It only masks the fact the passing Obama Care did nothing to stop healthcare costs increasing.

Let's look at the KFF study:

"Since 2014, the ACA has capped how much subsidized enrollees pay for their health insurance premiums at a certain percent of their income, on a sliding scale, with the federal government covering the remainder in the form of a tax credit. Enhanced tax credits work by further lowering the share of income ACA Marketplace enrollees pay for a plan. For example, with the enhanced tax credits in place, an individual making $28,000 will pay no more than around 1% ($325) of their annual income towards a benchmark plan. If the enhanced tax credits expire, this same individual would pay nearly 6% of their income ($1,562 annually) towards a benchmark plan in 2026. In other words, if the enhanced tax credits expire, this individual would experience an increase of $1,238 in their annual premium payments net of the tax credit."

This is such a ridiculously low cost for health insurance it's not sustainable.

I would rather pay to enroll these people into a jobs program, at least there's a cost benefit to the GDP there.


Great conversation, that we should be having nationally. You know, an actual conversation, about actual, serious policy, that dives into nuances and debates the hard, consequential stuff.

Instead, we're doing the ER visit version of the Haitians eating cats and dogs in Springfield because this Administration and this feckless and spineless Republican Congress has zero desire to do the real work of leading and policy-making and instead want to govern using executive powers and meme-driving authoritarian culture and identity grievance wars.


One could also argue the democrats are in no way interested in working with republicans but instead just GET TRUMP and oppose any all legislative measures.


You're right, one could argue that, but not with a straight face.

What good-faith attempt has been made to legislate anything consequential this term?

Congress is cracking a 40 and just sitting back enjoying watching Trump practice how illiberal he can be.

Where's the legislation? Where's the evidence they have any desire to check Trump when he's out of line, aka do their job?




How about trying to keep the government open and democrats won't play ball because they are worried about the far left?


Dems aren't worried about government. They're worried about killing/jailing their political opponents.


LOLOL

Y'all just love imagined grievance and playing soldier, and also imagining that Republican leaders including Trump didn't actually commit crimes. Yes, I'm all for Republicans and Democrats and Green Party candidates and whoever else who commits crimes being jailed. You'd have an argument if the hit rate wasn't extraordinarily high for finding legal guilt amongst the people that the "Biden" Justice Department opted to indict, charge, and try.

How's that going for Trump? He's had an embarrassing series of gaffes and missteps as he transparently chases his political enemies legally. He gonna find any success jailing his enemies?

You ready to take my bet that Comey doesn't get found guilty of any criminal charges? Those charges are so bogus he probably never even sees the inside of a courtroom.

You remember for years you claimed how easy it would be to find a sympathetic and politically motivated judge/jury, right? Cool, so it should be easy to find the unfortunates on Trump's enemies list guilty. Right?

Or are you still ignoring that question?

Please tell us, what Democratic legislators or leaders want their political opponents ganked?

Democrats like the guys that tried to axe Trump and the guy that assassinated Charlie Kirk, that you keep imagining were "Democrats," only they showed no evidence of actual, consequential political participation, affiliation, or committed ideologies?

Do whatever you have to do to stay angry at left-wing boogeymen, though.
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#daLooneySieve has spoken.
packgrad
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Werewolf said:

#daLooneySieve has spoken.


Betas gonna beta.
packgrad
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Civ, speaking of a avoiding questions? Was there an insurrection? How many genders are there? Did you change your tune about women in showers with the Penn ****** as soon as mormad called you out?

Keep talking about liberal boogeymen while you heperventilate about Trump daily on here. You've become such a nutjob, you're compared to smapty. Congratulations?
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packgrad said:

Civ, speaking of a avoiding questions? Was there an insurrection? How many genders are there? Did you change your tune about women in showers with the Penn ****** as soon as mormad called you out?

Keep talking about liberal boogeymen while you heperventilate about Trump daily on here. You've become such a nutjob, you're compared to smapty. Congratulations?

How do I always miss this stuff?
CALS grad

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packgrad
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More of civ's "liberal boogeymen"







Party of evil.

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hokiewolf
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Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

Pick a side!



If-if-if that's true, I would be in full favor of unleashing the might of the U.S. military on the cartels and terror groups.
What countries are we declaring war against?


We don't have to declare war on an entire country, we just bomb the * out of the bad guys.

We CAN NOT have bad actors putting bounties on American law enforcement. That is an act of war and completely unacceptable.
while I agree with you, that also means we will need to invade another sovereign nations borders to do something about it. So who is that going to be?
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LMAO, if only one of these could be confirmed to be #daNappy.
Werewolf
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Hey #Sieve, the military hates Trump! LMAO, you're F'n delusional.
Werewolf
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I don't know if this particular tweet is true or not. I do know that this tweet mentions our primary enemy and the head of the snake. Of course, we need to be mindful of the foreign actor nations who may exploit this distraction as we eliminate the immediate threat within.
Werewolf
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Here's another nugget that's on point with what has to happen if it hasn't already.
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Werewolf said:

LMAO, if only one of these could be confirmed to be #daNappy.

I prefer my government to govern, not make stupid memes. I guess my expectations are too high.
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hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

LMAO, if only one of these could be confirmed to be #daNappy.

I prefer my government to govern, not make stupid memes. I guess my expectations are too high.


Zero surprise you're triggered by this and made such a stupid post. Yes, they are "not governing" because someone made a meme. So much TDS.

Yawn.
packgrad
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This is consistent with Dem values of those that post on this board. Zero integrity.

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hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

LMAO, if only one of these could be confirmed to be #daNappy.


I prefer my government to govern, not make stupid memes. I guess my expectations are too high.

#Gobbler, head out that way; you need a turn! LOL
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