SmaptyWolf said:Cthepack said:SmaptyWolf said:caryking said:SmaptyWolf said:caryking said:SmaptyWolf said:caryking said:Werewolf said:
i don't know the specifics other than for an MD to have resist the jabs that Dr was attacked across all boundaries by Medical establishment, MSM and the corrupt govt. ....my point, loosely. Shut down and silenced ...license threatened etc. Just like here, there were posters insisting those of us speaking out be silenced and we were conspiracy theorists , blah blah blah
Just remember, I called out people being shut down for different opinions during COVID era. In your previous post, you used these statements:
We are in a fight for all of humanity
It does for you, your children and your grandchildren
Perhaps you're right; however, the suggesting that you need to be the person that cares about someone's children, grandchildren, and all of humanity, sounds like a savior complex.
For me, I was not going to get a vaccine as I was uncomfortable with the whole representation of it, yes, including Trump. That said, my daughter lived in NYC and was wanting some family visits (she was lonely) and the only way I was going to be able to see her was to get the vaccine. I got the J&J version (one-time only) to be able to see my daughter. That, in my opinion was coercion. I didn't like it, at all.
when a government, media, then businesses feel compelled to create a narrative that causes people to act irrational (my opinion) that's when I get very uncomfortable. That said, I did what I had to do for my family. And no… I wouldn't have done it for anyone else.
I made a "choice" based on coercion! Plain and simple!
Honest question: Do you have other examples in your adult life of a doctor prescribing you a potentially life-saving medicine that you refused because you were convinced that it was a pharmaceutical conspiracy of some sort? Unless you're a slobbering lunatic like Werewolf I highly doubt it.
The pandemic was the turning point where everyone realized just how far gone MAGA really is. It was a f'ing national emergency, but it was obviously a threat to Trump's presidency, so even that was turned into a huge culture war issue. It didn't matter that there were morgue trucks lined up around the block in NYC (which I'm sure terrified your daughter), you guys did everything you could to make that time as awful as possible. Even Trump eventually tried to backtrack, as we saw in the video, once he realized just how bad things could get, but there was no stopping you.
I put you guys in the same category as draft dodgers. When the country was on its knees, and we weren't sure how to protect our most vulnerable, you unhinged chicken sh**s coughed in everyone's face on purpose and then ran for the hills. Pathetic.
Actually, I do.
Smapty, your insistence to mock people really show more about you than the mocked. BTW, I said I made a choice to see my daughter. Also, if my daughter wasn't in need, then no, I wouldn't have gotten a vaccine.
Also, people that would purposely cough in someone's face is just rude. Something I don't do regardless. Now, if you had your N95 mask on, why would you even worry? You were protected, right? Vaccine, N95, stay in your home, etc…. I thought you were covered, right?
So which other drug(s)/vaccine(s) have you refused? How vast is the conspiracy? Or are you one of those people who would rather they treated peoples' cancer with fruit smoothies and prayer?
And did your daughter insist you get vaccinated before you could visit her? If so I'm glad to hear that whatever is wrong with you isn't genetic.
You are a real disgusting person!
That's called "projection". Only one of us gave a crap about doing whatever we could to protect people around us during a deadly pandemic, and it wasn't you. As you said, if it hadn't been your own daughter forcing the issue you never would have done it.
Self-absorbed and disgusting is about right.
Covid was going to spread no matter what countries did. Countries with a zero infection approach eventually failed. This is a fact. Getting the vaccine did not prevent the spread. Fact. The vaccine was to protect the individual from hospitalization / death from Covid.
The fact is that all along you guys have played this game where you apply what we know now and how the virus behaves now to the past to justify your bad behavior.
Nothing was a fact at the beginning of the pandemic except that it was a novel coronavirus killing a bunch of people that we knew very little about. Maybe not in Punkin Knob, NC, but in places like Italy and NYC it was a warzone. I witnessed it. In that fog of war we had to rely on the experience of the world's best epidemiologists (who Trump and MAGA worked to discredit every step of the way).
At the beginning we discovered that you were contagious before showing symptoms (particularly nasty). The only tool we had was masking and social distancing, which was never about protecting yourself... it was about leveraging the inverse square law to protect others from asymptomatic you. And in the beginning evidence showed that it actually helped control spread. People who wore masks and were mad that they still caught covid never understood the point of masking in the first place. Later when N95s became available you could actually protect yourself... but with each evolution the virus got more contagious and even those became less useful.
And that's the other big point you guys ignore... despite what was widely expected, this virus mutates FAST. What was true any given month quickly became not true, and you guys took full advantage of that moving target, using it to cast doubt on the experts.
When the vaccine first became available it actually did provide about 95% immunity, and it was widely hoped that we could irradicate the virus. That's when there was talk of mandates and being a patriotic American, not a self-absorbed a**hole. But after a few months those hopes were dashed... the virus mutated like crazy, meaning vaccine effectiveness dropped rapidly. Mandates went out the window, although it was still good for society for you to get vaxxed... you could still catch it, though with less severe symptoms and be symptomatic for a shorter period.
Now of course we're well into Omicron and the virus has gotten so contagious that nothing can slow it down... the vaccine is now essentially a flu shot to lower the severity and hopefully keep you from missing a week of work. Thankfully there's so much immunity in the population now that the crazy days of the early pandemic are behind us.
But the FACT is that every step of the way you had no way of knowing how things would turn out... you certainly didn't know more than the epidemiologists... you were basing your behavior on hyper-partisan bullsh**. And a bunch of people died the first couple years that probably didn't need to... more Republicans than Dems, btw, for those who are counting.
I am not sure who "You Guys" are but guessing you included me since you quoted me. I have/had no issues with the vaccine. Never once said anything bad about it and have been vaccinated a few times. I just will challenge people like you who have no idea about most things but like to spout off.
Thank you for proving my point. Point was the vaccine was developed/issued to prevent the severity. FACT. Everything after that was, as you said "Nothing was fact at the beginning".
I do not want the government telling me what to do and love that we live in a country where, we as individuals, can make our own decisions.
