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4:18p, 7/11/25
#daGobbler is crushed. Pulling so hard for failure ....only to suffer disappointment with Trump's success. He wants America to lose under Trump's leadership and Trump's agenda.



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....and think juan
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In reply to hokiewolf • 4:24p, 7/11/25
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs
Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.
They need jobs though
Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…
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In reply to caryking • 4:26p, 7/11/25
Welcome back!
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In reply to hokiewolf • 4:30p, 7/11/25
hokiewolf said:
Werewolf said:
hokiewolf said:
Werewolf said:
Just when #Gobbler and Co could be buying so much more CCP product. #Gobbler must be crushed.

Sweet, we've been taxed $121B. Hope the govt spends it wisely.
Look at the inflation indicators my friend.....0.1% I think I heard on Fox Business.
Cool story bro. You need to wait out the inventory stocking up by various companies before the impact begins to hit inflation. Tariffs are still a tax, which is passed on to the consumer. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

I also fail to see how tariffs are going to make me "richer" when the tariff is paid to the Federal Government.
Well, not out yet…

In a myopic view, in which you appear to be speaking, the tariffs will not make you richer! Only you can do that! Now, the tariffs are part of the overall revenue stream, into the treasury, to reduce the debt. Will it work? Who knows?

I do know your insistent complaints about tariffs shows me you know far more than Trump, Bessent, and the rest of the administrations cabinet. Perhaps you should run for office? No, you'll probably sit on the sidelines and complain because you're the smartest person in the room.

Now, I'm out…
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In reply to caryking • 5:15p, 7/11/25
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
Werewolf said:
hokiewolf said:
Werewolf said:
Just when #Gobbler and Co could be buying so much more CCP product. #Gobbler must be crushed.


Sweet, we've been taxed $121B. Hope the govt spends it wisely.

Look at the inflation indicators my friend.....0.1% I think I heard on Fox Business.

Cool story bro. You need to wait out the inventory stocking up by various companies before the impact begins to hit inflation. Tariffs are still a tax, which is passed on to the consumer. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

I also fail to see how tariffs are going to make me "richer" when the tariff is paid to the Federal Government.

Well, not out yet…

In a myopic view, in which you appear to be speaking, the tariffs will not make you richer! Only you can do that! Now, the tariffs are part of the overall revenue stream, into the treasury, to reduce the debt. Will it work? Who knows?

I do know your insistent complaints about tariffs shows me you know far more than Trump, Bessent, and the rest of the administrations cabinet. Perhaps you should run for office? No, you'll probably sit on the sidelines and complain because you're the smartest person in the room.

Now, I'm out…

No... please... don't... go...
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In reply to El Lobo Loco • 5:27p, 7/11/25
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs
Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.


I am surprised that clocks, especially grandfather clocks, were even in demand anymore. The younger generations aren't going to have much demand for that nor other things that were popular with older generations.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 6:22p, 7/11/25
hokiewolf said:
Werewolf said:
hokiewolf said:
Werewolf said:
Just when #Gobbler and Co could be buying so much more CCP product. #Gobbler must be crushed.

Sweet, we've been taxed $121B. Hope the govt spends it wisely.
Look at the inflation indicators my friend.....0.1% I think I heard on Fox Business.
Cool story bro. You need to wait out the inventory stocking up by various companies before the impact begins to hit inflation. Tariffs are still a tax, which is passed on to the consumer. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

I also fail to see how tariffs are going to make me "richer" when the tariff is paid to the Federal Government.



So when will inflation hit? You complained before about allowing you to have an opinion, so please share your opinion.

Price is not driven by cost. The market drives price.
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In reply to Cthepack • 6:32p, 7/11/25
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Werewolf said:
hokiewolf said:
Werewolf said:
Just when #Gobbler and Co could be buying so much more CCP product. #Gobbler must be crushed.


Sweet, we've been taxed $121B. Hope the govt spends it wisely.

Look at the inflation indicators my friend.....0.1% I think I heard on Fox Business.

Cool story bro. You need to wait out the inventory stocking up by various companies before the impact begins to hit inflation. Tariffs are still a tax, which is passed on to the consumer. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

I also fail to see how tariffs are going to make me "richer" when the tariff is paid to the Federal Government.



So when will inflation hit? You complained before about allowing you to have an opinion, so please share your opinion.

Price is not driven by cost. The market drives price.

And money printing drives inflation.
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In reply to Cthepack • 7:46p, 7/11/25
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Werewolf said:
hokiewolf said:
Werewolf said:
Just when #Gobbler and Co could be buying so much more CCP product. #Gobbler must be crushed.

Sweet, we've been taxed $121B. Hope the govt spends it wisely.
Look at the inflation indicators my friend.....0.1% I think I heard on Fox Business.
Cool story bro. You need to wait out the inventory stocking up by various companies before the impact begins to hit inflation. Tariffs are still a tax, which is passed on to the consumer. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

I also fail to see how tariffs are going to make me "richer" when the tariff is paid to the Federal Government.



So when will inflation hit? You complained before about allowing you to have an opinion, so please share your opinion.

Price is not driven by cost. The market drives price.

3rd quarter it will start.
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8:13p, 7/11/25
It's funny that the secret police rounded up a bunch of "probably MS-13" farm workers, but didn't bother to arrest the guys that hired them. Seems like a missed opportunity to send a message that hiring illegals is illegal... would save them a lot of arrests if other employers got scared and cut them all loose.

JUST KIDDING! Obviously this is just the Trump Show, as usual.
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In reply to caryking • 8:49p, 7/11/25
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
Werewolf said:
hokiewolf said:
Werewolf said:
Just when #Gobbler and Co could be buying so much more CCP product. #Gobbler must be crushed.

Sweet, we've been taxed $121B. Hope the govt spends it wisely.
Look at the inflation indicators my friend.....0.1% I think I heard on Fox Business.
Cool story bro. You need to wait out the inventory stocking up by various companies before the impact begins to hit inflation. Tariffs are still a tax, which is passed on to the consumer. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

I also fail to see how tariffs are going to make me "richer" when the tariff is paid to the Federal Government.
Well, not out yet…

In a myopic view, in which you appear to be speaking, the tariffs will not make you richer! Only you can do that! Now, the tariffs are part of the overall revenue stream, into the treasury, to reduce the debt. Will it work? Who knows?

I do know your insistent complaints about tariffs shows me you know far more than Trump, Bessent, and the rest of the administrations cabinet. Perhaps you should run for office? No, you'll probably sit on the sidelines and complain because you're the smartest person in the room.

Now, I'm out…
scale of knowing more:
Trump - probably
Besset - no but he knows better which is worse
Lutnick - most definitely
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In reply to caryking • 8:54p, 7/11/25
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs
Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.
They need jobs though
Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…
no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 9:01p, 7/11/25
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs
Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.
They need jobs though
Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…
no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?
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In reply to Cthepack • 9:15p, 7/11/25
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs
Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.
They need jobs though
Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…
no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?
sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 10:22p, 7/11/25
^LMAO, full of hot air. Construction prices up 4-6%........you're kidding. Heavy construction and electrical went up 200-300% during Biden's four years. So full of ****.

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Would be fun!
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In reply to hokiewolf • 10:41p, 7/11/25
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs
Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.
They need jobs though
Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…
no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?
sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.


The average service job in the USA is between $14 and $22 per hour. Average manufacturing job in the USA is $28 per hour.

Where did you get the inflation cost for construction. Significantly higher than the average US cost increase

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In reply to Cthepack • 10:49p, 7/11/25
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs
Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.
They need jobs though
Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…
no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?
sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.


The average service job in the USA is between $14 and $22 per hour. Average manufacturing job in the USA is $28 per hour.

Where did you get the inflation cost for construction. Significantly higher than the average US cost increase

because I work in the industry
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In reply to hokiewolf • 11:32p, 7/11/25
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs
Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.
They need jobs though
Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…
no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?
sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.


The average service job in the USA is between $14 and $22 per hour. Average manufacturing job in the USA is $28 per hour.

Where did you get the inflation cost for construction. Significantly higher than the average US cost increase

because I work in the industry


Well July is at 1.1% for USA construction . Not 4 to 6%.
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In reply to Cthepack • 7:31a, 7/12/25
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs

Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.

They need jobs though

Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…

no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?

sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.


The average service job in the USA is between $14 and $22 per hour. Average manufacturing job in the USA is $28 per hour.

Where did you get the inflation cost for construction. Significantly higher than the average US cost increase


because I work in the industry


Well July is at 1.1% for USA construction . Not 4 to 6%.

Well, speaking as one who lives in "the territories" just outside wake county, I wish it'd plunge to zero.
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There is a growing concern, including among conservatives, about provisions of the "big beautiful bill" (including advancing "Real ID") and the use of Palantir to effectively create an AI high-tech surveillance state to spy on everything we do.

Of course, Trump and Republicans sell all of this as a tool to stop illegal immigration. But with this all being passed by Congress into law (Real ID, Patriot Act, etc)….this all shows a long term agenda going back to right after 9/11 to build this high-tech surveillance state. Next they want to do away with physical cash and have digital currencies tied to a Chinese-style social credit score system…and then the people will be totally controlled by the government.

This YouTuber has a fairly big channel and is a staunch conservative, but just came out with this good video covering this police state buildup as part of the BBB with Real ID and Palantir.

"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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In reply to Cthepack • 8:34a, 7/12/25
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs
Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.
They need jobs though
Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…
no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?
sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.


The average service job in the USA is between $14 and $22 per hour. Average manufacturing job in the USA is $28 per hour.

Where did you get the inflation cost for construction. Significantly higher than the average US cost increase

because I work in the industry


Well July is at 1.1% for USA construction . Not 4 to 6%.



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Gulfstream4 said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs

Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.

They need jobs though

Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…

no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?

sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.


The average service job in the USA is between $14 and $22 per hour. Average manufacturing job in the USA is $28 per hour.

Where did you get the inflation cost for construction. Significantly higher than the average US cost increase


because I work in the industry


Well July is at 1.1% for USA construction . Not 4 to 6%.




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Grand jury already convened..... and will quickly escalate to US Military tribunals.... courtesy of deep inside source, Juan O'Savin.
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In reply to Cthepack • 9:33a, 7/12/25
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs
Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.
They need jobs though
Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…
no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?
sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.


The average service job in the USA is between $14 and $22 per hour. Average manufacturing job in the USA is $28 per hour.

Where did you get the inflation cost for construction. Significantly higher than the average US cost increase

because I work in the industry


Well July is at 1.1% for USA construction . Not 4 to 6%.
Ok man. 25 years in the Construction industry, I get tariff related price increases weekly, I know w t f I'm talking about.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 10:05a, 7/12/25
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs
Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.
They need jobs though
Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…
no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?
sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.


The average service job in the USA is between $14 and $22 per hour. Average manufacturing job in the USA is $28 per hour.

Where did you get the inflation cost for construction. Significantly higher than the average US cost increase

because I work in the industry


Well July is at 1.1% for USA construction . Not 4 to 6%.
Ok man. 25 years in the Construction industry, I get tariff related price increases weekly, I know w t f I'm talking about.


You don't get it. Trump used his sharpie on a chart and then yelled in all caps that the economy is unicorns and rainbows now.

How else is he going to browbeat the Fed into lowering interest rates?
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In reply to hokiewolf • 10:11a, 7/12/25
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs

Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.

They need jobs though

Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…

no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?

sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.


The average service job in the USA is between $14 and $22 per hour. Average manufacturing job in the USA is $28 per hour.

Where did you get the inflation cost for construction. Significantly higher than the average US cost increase


because I work in the industry


Well July is at 1.1% for USA construction . Not 4 to 6%.

Ok man. 25 years in the Construction industry, I get tariff related price increases weekly, I know w t f I'm talking about.

It was a simple search. I am sure you have never made up any numbers on the interwebs, so I believe you are seeing a higher increase.

If I am a supplier of yours, I am asking you for a price increase. You are very clear that the tariffs will go directly to the consumer.
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In reply to Cthepack • 10:24a, 7/12/25
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs

Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.

They need jobs though

Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…

no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?

sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.


The average service job in the USA is between $14 and $22 per hour. Average manufacturing job in the USA is $28 per hour.

Where did you get the inflation cost for construction. Significantly higher than the average US cost increase


because I work in the industry


Well July is at 1.1% for USA construction . Not 4 to 6%.

Ok man. 25 years in the Construction industry, I get tariff related price increases weekly, I know w t f I'm talking about.

It was a simple search. I am sure you have never made up any numbers on the interwebs, so I believe you are seeing a higher increase.

If I am a supplier of yours, I am asking you for a price increase. You are very clear that the tariffs will go directly to the consumer.
yeah, I'm not going to absorb it and neither is anyone else. Every single commodity based and electronics based product that goes into a construction project continues to increase costs monthly at a higher rate than inflation
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In reply to hokiewolf • 10:42a, 7/12/25
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs

Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.

They need jobs though

Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…

no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?

sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.


The average service job in the USA is between $14 and $22 per hour. Average manufacturing job in the USA is $28 per hour.

Where did you get the inflation cost for construction. Significantly higher than the average US cost increase


because I work in the industry


Well July is at 1.1% for USA construction . Not 4 to 6%.

Ok man. 25 years in the Construction industry, I get tariff related price increases weekly, I know w t f I'm talking about.

It was a simple search. I am sure you have never made up any numbers on the interwebs, so I believe you are seeing a higher increase.

If I am a supplier of yours, I am asking you for a price increase. You are very clear that the tariffs will go directly to the consumer.

yeah, I'm not going to absorb it and neither is anyone else. Every single commodity based and electronics based product that goes into a construction project continues to increase costs monthly at a higher rate than inflation

What do you mean "not absorb it"? You have been very consistent that prices will go up due to the tariffs. Does this mean in real life you are not accepting the price increases?
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They are being passed down at every stage to the ultimate customer.
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In reply to Cthepack • 10:54a, 7/12/25
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs

Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.

They need jobs though

Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…

no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?

sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.


The average service job in the USA is between $14 and $22 per hour. Average manufacturing job in the USA is $28 per hour.

Where did you get the inflation cost for construction. Significantly higher than the average US cost increase


because I work in the industry


Well July is at 1.1% for USA construction . Not 4 to 6%.

Ok man. 25 years in the Construction industry, I get tariff related price increases weekly, I know w t f I'm talking about.

It was a simple search. I am sure you have never made up any numbers on the interwebs, so I believe you are seeing a higher increase.

If I am a supplier of yours, I am asking you for a price increase. You are very clear that the tariffs will go directly to the consumer.

yeah, I'm not going to absorb it and neither is anyone else. Every single commodity based and electronics based product that goes into a construction project continues to increase costs monthly at a higher rate than inflation

What do you mean "not absorb it"? You have been very consistent that prices will go up due to the tariffs. Does this mean in real life you are not accepting the price increases?

So what exactly are you saying?

That magically Trump tariffs have not and will not increase prices, despite having many decades of tariff examples domestically and internationally the illustrate clearly that tariffs do exactly that?
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In reply to Civilized • 11:03a, 7/12/25
Civilized said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
Cthepack said:
hokiewolf said:
caryking said:
hokiewolf said:
El Lobo Loco said:
hokiewolf said:
Sweet, beautiful tariffs, helping Johnny Paycheck, and NASCAR!

"In the latest blow, the 100-year-old clock manufacturer that produced the iconic NASCAR Martinsville grandfather clock announced that it'd be shutting down - in part due to Trump's tariffs. "A convergence of market influences beyond our control brought us to this point," President and CEO Howard J. Miller said in an official statement.

Since 1964, Martinsville Speedway - one of the oldest tracks still featured on the NASCAR schedule - has gifted the Cup Series race winner a grandfather clock shortly after they coasted down victory lane. Fred Lorenzen first received the unique accolade that year, during which he led a whopping 980 out of 1,000 total laps over the two races held at the 'paperclip.'"

We are protecting American jobs with protectionist tariffs!

Long-standing NASCAR tradition in danger due to Donald Trump's tariffs

Nobody needs clocks anymore. All that is on your phone.

They need jobs though

Ok, I had to come out of retirement for this one…

Hokie, you've never shown one bit of concern for the American worker. That comment (in bold) is extremely shallow and purely opportunistic. You can do better! I'm out again…

no, I don't think the cure for the American worker is $15/hr factory jobs.


Average manufacturings job is significantly higher than $15/hr. But you know this, you use to say $18/hr. I have tried to educate you on this but you continue to be obtuse.

We are in the 3rd quarter is inflation hitting now?

sure, let's do $18/hr. You can make $30/hr with benefits at Costco. You can make $25/hr easy in construction with overtime.

There are thousands of unfilled service jobs that pay more and provide better opportunity, I've also tried to educate you folks on that too, and tariffs hurt those better paying jobs to a higher degree than they provide jobs in manufacturing.

Construction projects have increased costs of 4-6% in the 3rd quarter so yes, it's happening now.

Demand does dictate pricing, except when you manipulate the market to artificially increase pricing. Tariffs do that plus drive down demand. Pretty neat trick.


The average service job in the USA is between $14 and $22 per hour. Average manufacturing job in the USA is $28 per hour.

Where did you get the inflation cost for construction. Significantly higher than the average US cost increase


because I work in the industry


Well July is at 1.1% for USA construction . Not 4 to 6%.

Ok man. 25 years in the Construction industry, I get tariff related price increases weekly, I know w t f I'm talking about.

It was a simple search. I am sure you have never made up any numbers on the interwebs, so I believe you are seeing a higher increase.

If I am a supplier of yours, I am asking you for a price increase. You are very clear that the tariffs will go directly to the consumer.

yeah, I'm not going to absorb it and neither is anyone else. Every single commodity based and electronics based product that goes into a construction project continues to increase costs monthly at a higher rate than inflation

What do you mean "not absorb it"? You have been very consistent that prices will go up due to the tariffs. Does this mean in real life you are not accepting the price increases?

So what exactly are you saying?

That magically Trump tariffs have not and will not increase prices, despite having many decades of tariff examples domestically and internationally the illustrate clearly that tariffs do exactly that?

It is simple. What I am saying is that price is not driven by cost. The market drives price. Tariffs increase cost.

Lazy companies will pass on cost, great companies understand the market, protect their customers, and reduce cost. In order to keep their margins.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 11:04a, 7/12/25
hokiewolf said:
They are being passed down at every stage to the ultimate customer.

Yep.

Copper is up almost 50% since April and even if you normalize for the volatility, it's up 25% year over year.

Our electrician was getting ready to mobilize to one of our sites to rough in and called, hat in hand, to say that he couldn't honor his bid price from 60 days ago. Said he had just gotten hit with a tariff price increase on copper wire and had to pass it through or else he'd be working for free. Hit us with a 15% job cost increase.
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