TRUMP 2024

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GuerrillaPack said:

Indeed. I'll add this to the Epstein/sex trafficking thread.
Yeah my bad.
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jkpackfan said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Indeed. I'll add this to the Epstein/sex trafficking thread.
Yeah my bad.


No, I wasn't being critical that you put it in this thread. I just wanted to add it to that thread too.
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I know #daGobbler self proclaims himself a Masters-level checkers player but i wondered if he'd ever castled early in a match?

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Crossfire Hurricane, is it a storm, Mr President?
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SmaptyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

A perspective to consider re the Epstein file.

A perspective to consider re the Epstein file.

TRUMP IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST

Also, water is wet.

Lol, come on man, are you really this impervious to reality? Or are YOU the conspiracy?
If Trump was at the top of the list, democrats would've had all that **** released so fast years ago…UNLESS there are a **** ton of democrats on it as well.
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jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

It's been a lot of fun watching you guys melt down the last two days. I am surprised though it took almost 48 hours before you really started hammering down on the Jew conspiracy and hate though. You guys are losing your touch.
Who's melting down? It's sure not me, I simply made a statement.
Were and GP. You aren't a lunatic antisemite.
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jkpackfan said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

A perspective to consider re the Epstein file.

A perspective to consider re the Epstein file.

TRUMP IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST

Also, water is wet.

Lol, come on man, are you really this impervious to reality? Or are YOU the conspiracy?
If Trump was at the top of the list, democrats would've had all that **** released so fast years ago…UNLESS there are a **** ton of democrats on it as well.
There are two possibilities:

1) The list doesn't exist after all. Which means MAGA has been played for a fool by Trump, etc, who made this Epstein conspiracy stuff a major issue, and a key part of their "Deep State" conspiracy.

or

2) The list exists, and a bunch of powerful folks of all political persuasions are on it, INCLUDING TRUMP. Which means MAGA has been played for a fool by Trump, who is in fact a f'ing crook.

I dunno man, watch this video. If your 12 year old tried to pull this sh** what would you say? Yeah, exactly. GUILTY!

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hokiewolf said:

Sure it is. The storm and what not.
Why are you trying to drag me into this?
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SmaptyWolf said:

jkpackfan said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

A perspective to consider re the Epstein file.

A perspective to consider re the Epstein file.

TRUMP IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST

Also, water is wet.

Lol, come on man, are you really this impervious to reality? Or are YOU the conspiracy?
If Trump was at the top of the list, democrats would've had all that **** released so fast years ago…UNLESS there are a **** ton of democrats on it as well.
There are two possibilities:

1) The list doesn't exist after all. Which means MAGA has been played for a fool by Trump, etc, who made this Epstein conspiracy stuff a major issue, and a key part of their "Deep State" conspiracy.

or

2) The list exists, and a bunch of powerful folks of all political persuasions are on it, INCLUDING TRUMP. Which means MAGA has been played for a fool by Trump, who is in fact a f'ing crook.

I dunno man, watch this video. If your 12 year old tried to pull this sh** what would you say? Yeah, exactly. GUILTY!

I lean heavily to 1), just because humans are wretched at keeping secrets. It's why conspiracy theories that require extended and broad deception are basically impossible to execute. Two or three people can't often keep a secret, much less dozens or hundreds or thousands of people.

And even if a fairly small group of industry insiders can keep nefarious, poorly-kept-secret-stuff under wraps for a while, like Epstein, Weinstein, Bill Cosby, etc., when people do finally start pulling on the sweater string, the sweater unravels pretty damn quick.

And the opposite is also true - the more time that goes by, with a bunch of eyeballs and even people actively working on exposing a "truth," that "truth bomb" becomes far less likely with each passing day that no affirmative evidence of the "truth" emerges (Trump's 2020 "Election Fraud" lie).

With that many people looking and pulling at the sweater, if something MASSIVE was up it would unravel in a nanosecond.

In this case, I actually believe Pam Bondi's explanation that she had the Epstein case file on her desk and that's what she was referring to when she was asked about the alleged Epstein client list and said "it's on my desk right now" or whatever. Now, just like Trump and Elon and others that hover around them, I don't think she or Trump minded one bit that her loose description did nothing to quell speculation and chaos around the situation because Trump craves drama and loves Deep State insinuations that dog-whistle to conspiracy theorists and alt-right kooks.
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hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

It's been a lot of fun watching you guys melt down the last two days. I am surprised though it took almost 48 hours before you really started hammering down on the Jew conspiracy and hate though. You guys are losing your touch.
Who's melting down? It's sure not me, I simply made a statement.
Were and GP. You aren't a lunatic antisemite.
Anti-semite anti-shlemite

Stupid lame buzzword that is only used to shut down debate and promote censorship. It has lost its power, just like overuse by Leftists of squealing "racist" at everything.

And that's all turkey boy does here now, is whine and cry for me and Were to be censored and silenced, for criticizing the only group in the world that it is "politically incorrect" to criticize.

All we've been doing is, rightfully, expressing criticism and opposition of the Mossad and Israel blackmailing and controlling our government via this Epstein sex blackmail ring.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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jkpackfan said:

GuerrillaPack said:

I follow a lot of the "mainstream" MAGA influencer accounts (like Benny Johnson, etc) on Instagram, and based on the comments to their posts I would say that about 95-97% of Trump supporters are VERY upset with this cover-up on Epstein. This is doing MAJOR damage to the trust that MAGA people have in Trump and his administration.
I'm amazed at the amount of Trump people that don't think this is a big deal.
Might be a bit of a hot take, but you shouldn't trust any politician regardless of party. If you start looking at politics from a cynical view, a lot more of what they do makes a ton more sense.
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GuerrillaPack said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

It's been a lot of fun watching you guys melt down the last two days. I am surprised though it took almost 48 hours before you really started hammering down on the Jew conspiracy and hate though. You guys are losing your touch.
Who's melting down? It's sure not me, I simply made a statement.
Were and GP. You aren't a lunatic antisemite.
Anti-semite anti-shlemite

Stupid lame buzzword that is only used to shut down debate and promote censorship. It has lost its power, just like overuse by Leftists of squealing "racist" at everything.

And that's all turkey boy does here now, is whine and cry for me and Were to be censored and silenced, for criticizing the only group in the world that it is "politically incorrect" to criticize.

All we've been doing is, rightfully, expressing criticism and opposition of the Mossad and Israel blackmailing and controlling our government via this Epstein sex blackmail ring.
no, you've both been posting conspiracy theories about Jews that have been proven to be incorrect, that come up every few years, and show your true colors.

I am unsurprised this Epstein stuff has been way overblown, and you two think it's gospel that everyone in government and the wealthy is a pedophile. When you blow things out of proportion with conspiracy theories you erode the true issues that are going on with human trafficking in this world.

You guys are free to say stupid **** on these forums until the owners of this website decide otherwise. I have no control of that.
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hokiewolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

It's been a lot of fun watching you guys melt down the last two days. I am surprised though it took almost 48 hours before you really started hammering down on the Jew conspiracy and hate though. You guys are losing your touch.
Who's melting down? It's sure not me, I simply made a statement.
Were and GP. You aren't a lunatic antisemite.
Anti-semite anti-shlemite

Stupid lame buzzword that is only used to shut down debate and promote censorship. It has lost its power, just like overuse by Leftists of squealing "racist" at everything.

And that's all turkey boy does here now, is whine and cry for me and Were to be censored and silenced, for criticizing the only group in the world that it is "politically incorrect" to criticize.

All we've been doing is, rightfully, expressing criticism and opposition of the Mossad and Israel blackmailing and controlling our government via this Epstein sex blackmail ring.
no, you've both been posting conspiracy theories about Jews that have been proven to be incorrect, that come up every few years, and show your true colors.

I am unsurprised this Epstein stuff has been way overblown, and you two think it's gospel that everyone in government and the wealthy is a pedophile. When you blow things out of proportion with conspiracy theories you erode the true issues that are going on with human trafficking in this world.

You guys are free to say stupid **** on these forums until the owners of this website decide otherwise. I have no control of that.
Yeah, thank goodness you have no control over who to censor and ban and silence. Because you have made very clear that you do not believe in freedom of speech, and essentially say that anyone who says anything critical of the state of Israel, Judaism as a religion, or jews as a group should be completely censored and banned and silenced.

And, no, what we have been saying in regards to conspiracies has not "been proven to be incorrect". They are not "theories". To the contrary, they have been proven with voluminous amounts of evidence. You just choose to try to gaslight us and deny all of this evidence and deny reality...and employ the super lame Establishment Lamestream media strategy of parroting the smear term "conspiracy theorist" as if it is a magic buzzword that invalidates all of the evidence/logic/reality.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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FlossyDFlynt said:

jkpackfan said:

GuerrillaPack said:

I follow a lot of the "mainstream" MAGA influencer accounts (like Benny Johnson, etc) on Instagram, and based on the comments to their posts I would say that about 95-97% of Trump supporters are VERY upset with this cover-up on Epstein. This is doing MAJOR damage to the trust that MAGA people have in Trump and his administration.
I'm amazed at the amount of Trump people that don't think this is a big deal.
Might be a bit of a hot take, but you shouldn't trust any politician regardless of party. If you start looking at politics from a cynical view, a lot more of what they do makes a ton more sense.
Oh I definitely don't trust 99% of them.
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This is one of the most "mainstream" MAGA influencers out there, who rarely criticizes Trump. But this Epstein cover up is just too egregious.



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IMPORTANT: The major problem the DOJ and FBI is facing right now is Americans trust in these institutions is around 0%. Americans have been lied to systematically, on a daily basis by DOJ and FBI leadership for decades. We have hit rock bottom, absolute crisis of confidence.

Team Trump did not break these Institutions -- but they own them now so they inherit the nightmare.

This is why the old 'just trust us bro we looked into it' is NOT going to work anymore. Especially with Epstein. It will only make Americans more furious and erode further faith.

Here is the only way to solve the Epstein crisis blowing up DC right now:

Release everything. Texts, emails, passports, art, furniture, tours of his properties, cars, bank accounts, all communications and cook books. Show the American people all the evidence that makes YOU confident in your Epstein assessment.

I'll show you where to start: Here is a FBI photo of Epstein's personal safe. According to public documents this envelope had multiple passports in it where Epstein used different names. That's odd. What countries? What names? The box next to is was filled with diamonds. Where were they from? What do they look like? Where are they now? None of this evidence contains abuse material and would prove to the public you trust them and are being honest. We know the Feds confiscated a treasure trove of other info from Epstein. Put it out there. Trust the American people first, this is how you regain trust.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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hokiewolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

It's been a lot of fun watching you guys melt down the last two days. I am surprised though it took almost 48 hours before you really started hammering down on the Jew conspiracy and hate though. You guys are losing your touch.
Who's melting down? It's sure not me, I simply made a statement.
Were and GP. You aren't a lunatic antisemite.
Anti-semite anti-shlemite

Stupid lame buzzword that is only used to shut down debate and promote censorship. It has lost its power, just like overuse by Leftists of squealing "racist" at everything.

And that's all turkey boy does here now, is whine and cry for me and Were to be censored and silenced, for criticizing the only group in the world that it is "politically incorrect" to criticize.

All we've been doing is, rightfully, expressing criticism and opposition of the Mossad and Israel blackmailing and controlling our government via this Epstein sex blackmail ring.
no, you've both been posting conspiracy theories about Jews that have been proven to be incorrect, that come up every few years, and show your true colors.

I am unsurprised this Epstein stuff has been way overblown, and you two think it's gospel that everyone in government and the wealthy is a pedophile. When you blow things out of proportion with conspiracy theories you erode the true issues that are going on with human trafficking in this world.

You guys are free to say stupid **** on these forums until the owners of this website decide otherwise. I have no control of that.
#Gobbler's command of modern-day politics and global reality amuses me on a daily basis. His discernment abilities are quite unremarkable. Much akin to his mask wearing & economic shutdown fear of the COVID scam, his signingup for multiple jabs, his insistence that Trump had not chance in 2024 and to his confirmation that the 2020 election wasn't rigged, he'll be spot on with Epstein Island blackmail operation, LOL.

I'm sure #daGobbler sucked that fire hydrant hose hard when his MSM was telling him the story of Trump Russia collusion. Such a patsy.........for all things MSM.

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Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

hokiewolf said:

jkpackfan said:

hokiewolf said:

It's been a lot of fun watching you guys melt down the last two days. I am surprised though it took almost 48 hours before you really started hammering down on the Jew conspiracy and hate though. You guys are losing your touch.
Who's melting down? It's sure not me, I simply made a statement.
Were and GP. You aren't a lunatic antisemite.
Anti-semite anti-shlemite

Stupid lame buzzword that is only used to shut down debate and promote censorship. It has lost its power, just like overuse by Leftists of squealing "racist" at everything.

And that's all turkey boy does here now, is whine and cry for me and Were to be censored and silenced, for criticizing the only group in the world that it is "politically incorrect" to criticize.

All we've been doing is, rightfully, expressing criticism and opposition of the Mossad and Israel blackmailing and controlling our government via this Epstein sex blackmail ring.
no, you've both been posting conspiracy theories about Jews that have been proven to be incorrect, that come up every few years, and show your true colors.

I am unsurprised this Epstein stuff has been way overblown, and you two think it's gospel that everyone in government and the wealthy is a pedophile. When you blow things out of proportion with conspiracy theories you erode the true issues that are going on with human trafficking in this world.

You guys are free to say stupid **** on these forums until the owners of this website decide otherwise. I have no control of that.
#Gobbler's command of modern-day politics and global reality amuses me on a daily basis. His discernment abilities are quite unremarkable. Much akin to his mask wearing & economic shutdown fear of the COVID scam, his signingup for multiple jabs, his insistence that Trump had not chance in 2024 and to his confirmation that the 2020 election wasn't rigged, he'll be spot on with Epstein Island blackmail operation, LOL.

I'm sure #daGobbler sucked that fire hydrant hose hard when his MSM was telling him the story of Trump Russia collusion. Such a patsy.........for all things MSM.




Those two need to be investigated. There is no way they were on the up and up. No way.
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Hoping these people have some success.......nobody badly hurt.......but we want these people to win a few small battles. He$$ is going to rain down on em if they do.


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Werewolf said:

Hoping these people have some success.......nobody badly hurt.......but we want these people to win a few small battles. He$$ is going to rain down on em if they do.



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The DOJ will start it..............the US Military is going to finish. #Dollars2Donuts
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Rod Martin has several bullets on this, I'll post #5.
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I've long exxpected this would happen. We'll see.
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Don't rub your nose in it, LOL.
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So this big news kind of got lost in the shuffle the last several days...

On the 4th of July a few days ago, 10 MAGA fascist terrorists planned an ambush of police officers at an ICE facility in Texas and shot 30 rounds at officers and shot one officer in the neck.

Oh wait...that's right...it was actually 10 Antif@g commie libtarded Leftists who did that.





https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/10-charged-ambush-texas-ice-detention-center-rcna217449

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10 charged after ambush at Texas' ICE detention center

The individuals have been charged with three counts of attempted murder of a federal officer, according to the criminal complaint.

July 8, 2025

The Department of Justice filed a criminal complaint on Monday against 10 people who allegedly "organized an ambush" at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center in Texas on the Fourth of July.

Each individual has been charged with three counts of attempted murder of a federal officer and three counts of discharging a firearm during and in relation to a violent crime, according to the complaint.

The incident took place on Friday outside of the Prairieland Detention Center in Alvarado, Texas, which houses detained migrants.

At approximately 10:37 p.m., a group of 10 to 12 people, wearing all black, allegedly shot fireworks toward the center and vandalized vehicles and the facility, which included spray painting "ICE PIG" on a car, the complaint read.

"Make no mistake, this was not a peaceful protest," said acting U.S. Attorney Nancy E. Larson in a statement. "This was an ambush on federal and local law enforcement officers."

"Those who use violence against law enforcement officers will be found and prosecuted using the toughest criminal statutes and penalties available," Larson said.

Shortly after, an Alvarado police officer arrived at the detention center in response to a 911 call and was shot in the neck by one of the individuals. Another assailant shot approximately 20 to 30 rounds at the unarmed correctional officers who were also present, according to the complaint.

The individuals fled the scene but were later apprehended, including Bradford Morris, who was taken into custody during a traffic stop. When Morris was detained, an officer discovered multiple firearms, including two AR-15-style rifles, ballistic vests and a helmet in his car, the complaint states.
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Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

jkpackfan said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

A perspective to consider re the Epstein file.

A perspective to consider re the Epstein file.

TRUMP IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST

Also, water is wet.

Lol, come on man, are you really this impervious to reality? Or are YOU the conspiracy?
If Trump was at the top of the list, democrats would've had all that **** released so fast years ago…UNLESS there are a **** ton of democrats on it as well.
There are two possibilities:

1) The list doesn't exist after all. Which means MAGA has been played for a fool by Trump, etc, who made this Epstein conspiracy stuff a major issue, and a key part of their "Deep State" conspiracy.

or

2) The list exists, and a bunch of powerful folks of all political persuasions are on it, INCLUDING TRUMP. Which means MAGA has been played for a fool by Trump, who is in fact a f'ing crook.

I dunno man, watch this video. If your 12 year old tried to pull this sh** what would you say? Yeah, exactly. GUILTY!

I lean heavily to 1), just because humans are wretched at keeping secrets. It's why conspiracy theories that require extended and broad deception are basically impossible to execute. Two or three people can't often keep a secret, much less dozens or hundreds or thousands of people.

And even if a fairly small group of industry insiders can keep nefarious, poorly-kept-secret-stuff under wraps for a while, like Epstein, Weinstein, Bill Cosby, etc., when people do finally start pulling on the sweater string, the sweater unravels pretty damn quick.

And the opposite is also true - the more time that goes by, with a bunch of eyeballs and even people actively working on exposing a "truth," that "truth bomb" becomes far less likely with each passing day that no affirmative evidence of the "truth" emerges (Trump's 2020 "Election Fraud" lie).

With that many people looking and pulling at the sweater, if something MASSIVE was up it would unravel in a nanosecond.

In this case, I actually believe Pam Bondi's explanation that she had the Epstein case file on her desk and that's what she was referring to when she was asked about the alleged Epstein client list and said "it's on my desk right now" or whatever. Now, just like Trump and Elon and others that hover around them, I don't think she or Trump minded one bit that her loose description did nothing to quell speculation and chaos around the situation because Trump craves drama and loves Deep State insinuations that dog-whistle to conspiracy theorists and alt-right kooks.
I suppose I actually believe a hybrid of both 1) and 2).

I agree, some huge "list" of the elites, all being part of a decades long pedophile conspiracy, is certainly nonsense, for all the reasons you mentioned. Is there in fact a short list with a handful of influential people diddling 15 year olds? It wouldn't surprise me. And given Trump's history of being a creeper running around beauty pageant dressing rooms, his close ties to Epstein, and the fact that he acts incredibly guilty every time the subject is directed at him (watch the "I barely knew them but I wish her well and hope she keeps her mouth shut" video again), it's hard to not assume that he would in fact be on that short list if it exists.

It's always struck me that they knew this was a political vulnerability, which was the reason this ridiculous massive pedo conspiracy was created in the first place, in true "always be on offense, and hang all of your vulnerabilities on your opponent" fashion. It's just politically hard to point a finger back at someone who is already pointing at you. Of course it quickly morphed into Trump's messianic image of THE ONE who can put a stop to it that they've milked as much as they can.

I dunno, maybe it was inevitable that this particular bullsh** train would crash into reality once they fully controlled the Justice Dept, and couldn't keep up the perpetual "we'll release it next month" game with Elon's accusations forcing the issue. But insisting there's no "there there" now risks massive blowback in MAGA world, which sure makes Trump look desperate and even guiltier.
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Werewolf said:

Werewolf said:

Hoping these people have some success.......nobody badly hurt.......but we want these people to win a few small battles. He$$ is going to rain down on em if they do.




So cool! ICE is now the biggest law enforcement agency in the country, with a budget bigger than the FBI, DEA, ATF, U.S. Marshals Service, and the Bureau of Prisons combined! And it was already staffed with all of the guys who flunked out of those more respectable law enforcement agencies... can't wait to see what kind of masked "shoot first" yahoos they get now to fill the ranks.

Looks like Trump has his secret police force. Werewolf, now's your chance to put on one of those face diapers you always make fun of!
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SmaptyWolf said:


So cool! ICE is now the biggest law enforcement agency in the country, with a budget bigger than the FBI, DEA, ATF, U.S. Marshals Service, and the Bureau of Prisons combined! And it was already staffed with all of the guys who flunked out of those more respectable law enforcement agencies... can't wait to see what kind of masked "shoot first" yahoos they get now to fill the ranks.

Looks like Trump has his secret police force. Werewolf, now's your chance to put on one of those face diapers you always make fun of!
Shoot first??

Did you miss the news where 10 of your comrades just got arrested for attempting to murder ICE officers in Texas on July 4th?

"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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Is there anything protectionist tariffs can't do?!?!

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hokiewolf said:

Is there anything protectionist tariffs can't do?!?!


I'll be thrilled to see higher steel prices if it results in supply chain security.....and thus national security. You'd put our a$$es out there for every damn penny wouldn't you.

We're at war with China, my friend......and you haven't a clue. You're still watching for a tank to cross our Canadian border. Actually, you're not even watching for a tank, you're asleep in front of the television with a MSM fire hose down your throat.
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DOJ >>>Special Prosecutor >>>Military Tribunals ..........for this one, the election fraud and all the other.
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HOW DO YOU GET DEMOCRATS & THE RADICAL LEFT TO START DEMANDING THE RELEASE OF THE EPSTEIN FILES? Act like the case is over with no ongoing operations going on in the background and pretend your involved and start a feud with a billionaire tech & rocket company owner.

Start digging deeper and start asking yourself more challenging questions instead of taking everything thrown at you like they "want" you to. This is a very crucial moment that will determine the rest of the way forward. How do you force your opponents hand? This is the art of war.

The number one rule in intelligence is to never reveal tradecraft and techniques. Psychological operations and propaganda is literally coming at you every second of the day, especially on social media platforms.

Start paying attention. Close attention. Remember, everything is first viewed and considered from a military perspective advantage position. Layers, optics, and timing. There are no coincidences. Sit back and observe and challenge your own conclusions and others.
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Say it ain't so, friends!
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