SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Civilized said:

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Fitting that Trump was either courageous enough or dumb enough to meaningfully cut entitlements, but that, in concert with his tax cuts, the deficit is actually increasing not decreasing even when slashing Medicaid despite the right's never-ending bellyaching about the deficit.

Pubs being proud to successfully woo more lower-income Americans in the last election, and then cutting their health care is an electoral strategy, I guess.

Can't imagine an electoral price won't be paid for this in the 26 mid-terms.

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Medicad was never intended to be an entitlement. Additionally, it doesn't cut the people out that Medicad was originally intended for.

The 12M losing their "health insurance" is a dubious estimate, considering that is strictly an academic estimate done by the CBO, the same folks who thought the American Rescue plan would reduce the deficit. It didn't. Why are we going to believe the CBO which has been consistently wrong?

Trump wooed the middle class voters. Those people will be unaffected. This will have zero consequences in '26

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49% of Medicaid recipients who voted in 2024 backed Trump, according to Morning Consult data published February 27, 2025. That marks a dramatic 21point swing from 2020, when Medicaid voters favored Biden by about 19 points.

Debating who Trump wooed is semantics; the reality is that lower class voters, including those on Medicaid, shifted markedly towards Trump in 2024 and helped him get elected.

None of us know how many Medicaid recipients will actually be kicked off the rolls but in politics, perception is reality. It didn't take anything but the prospect of a single prison inmate receiving a government-sponsored sex change for Trump to successfully run on the issue. No one doubts this Medicaid cut will affect a sizable number of Americans, whether that number is 100,000 or a million or 10 million may well be immaterial if the perception becomes the right favoring their rich cronies over poor Americans.

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I have noticed your attempts of framing "rich cronies" and evil corporations as a conservative boogeymen. Does the left not have rich cronies, evil billionaires and greedy corporations that support their leftist agenda? Are they also part of what you rail against?

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Are you just being willfully myopic? Or do you actually not see completely obvious differences?

No, the left has never run on cutting taxes and ballooning the deficit, especially when even the most simplistic analysis of who would benefit from the proposed cuts yielded the conclusion it would disproportionately be the top 1% of earners, and corporations and not middle class Americans or low-earners.

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So rich people on the right: bad. Rich people on the left: good.

Got it, thanks.

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I'll be Civ's anger translator:

"Republicans literally just took healthcare from the poor to hand tax cuts to billionaires (a.k.a. "rich cronies" like Elon). In fact, they ballooned the deficit even more for good measure for even more billionaire tax cuts, so this had nothing to do with the deficit. Dems don't do that (their billionaires actually ask for their taxes to be raised), so W T F are you talking about? It's hard to put into words how unbelievably dumb you are, so I can only hope this is willful stupidity."

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Civilized said:

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Fitting that Trump was either courageous enough or dumb enough to meaningfully cut entitlements, but that, in concert with his tax cuts, the deficit is actually increasing not decreasing even when slashing Medicaid despite the right's never-ending bellyaching about the deficit.

Pubs being proud to successfully woo more lower-income Americans in the last election, and then cutting their health care is an electoral strategy, I guess.

Can't imagine an electoral price won't be paid for this in the 26 mid-terms.

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Medicad was never intended to be an entitlement. Additionally, it doesn't cut the people out that Medicad was originally intended for.

The 12M losing their "health insurance" is a dubious estimate, considering that is strictly an academic estimate done by the CBO, the same folks who thought the American Rescue plan would reduce the deficit. It didn't. Why are we going to believe the CBO which has been consistently wrong?

Trump wooed the middle class voters. Those people will be unaffected. This will have zero consequences in '26

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49% of Medicaid recipients who voted in 2024 backed Trump, according to Morning Consult data published February 27, 2025. That marks a dramatic 21point swing from 2020, when Medicaid voters favored Biden by about 19 points.

Debating who Trump wooed is semantics; the reality is that lower class voters, including those on Medicaid, shifted markedly towards Trump in 2024 and helped him get elected.

None of us know how many Medicaid recipients will actually be kicked off the rolls but in politics, perception is reality. It didn't take anything but the prospect of a single prison inmate receiving a government-sponsored sex change for Trump to successfully run on the issue. No one doubts this Medicaid cut will affect a sizable number of Americans, whether that number is 100,000 or a million or 10 million may well be immaterial if the perception becomes the right favoring their rich cronies over poor Americans.

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I have noticed your attempts of framing "rich cronies" and evil corporations as a conservative boogeymen. Does the left not have rich cronies, evil billionaires and greedy corporations that support their leftist agenda? Are they also part of what you rail against?

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Are you just being willfully myopic? Or do you actually not see completely obvious differences?

No, the left has never run on cutting taxes and ballooning the deficit, especially when even the most simplistic analysis of who would benefit from the proposed cuts yielded the conclusion it would disproportionately be the top 1% of earners, and corporations and not middle class Americans or low-earners.

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So rich people on the right: bad. Rich people on the left: good.

Got it, thanks.

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I'll be Civ's anger translator:

"Republicans literally just took healthcare from the poor to hand tax cuts to billionaires (a.k.a. "rich cronies" like Elon). In fact, they ballooned the deficit even more for good measure for even more billionaire tax cuts, so this had nothing to do with the deficit. Dems don't do that (their billionaires actually ask for their taxes to be raised), so W T F are you talking about? It's hard to put into words how unbelievably dumb you are, so I can only hope this is willful stupidity."

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GuerrillaPack said:

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For the LOL

https://instagr.am/p/DLszuM3Oub2

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hokiewolf said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Civilized said:

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Fitting that Trump was either courageous enough or dumb enough to meaningfully cut entitlements, but that, in concert with his tax cuts, the deficit is actually increasing not decreasing even when slashing Medicaid despite the right's never-ending bellyaching about the deficit.

Pubs being proud to successfully woo more lower-income Americans in the last election, and then cutting their health care is an electoral strategy, I guess.

Can't imagine an electoral price won't be paid for this in the 26 mid-terms.

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Medicad was never intended to be an entitlement. Additionally, it doesn't cut the people out that Medicad was originally intended for.

The 12M losing their "health insurance" is a dubious estimate, considering that is strictly an academic estimate done by the CBO, the same folks who thought the American Rescue plan would reduce the deficit. It didn't. Why are we going to believe the CBO which has been consistently wrong?

Trump wooed the middle class voters. Those people will be unaffected. This will have zero consequences in '26

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Oh sure, I'll bite:

• Your "Medicaid wasn't meant for those people" talking points are fan fiction. Feel free to read the Social Security Act Title XIX where Medicaid was created. It absolutely was created as an entitlement to help the poor (along with additional groups like the elderly, pregnant women, etc.)
• The CBO said that the American Rescue Plan would raise the deficit $2.1 trillion. You're thinking of Biden's later bills, which did reduce the deficit. But I see you're all in on working the refs now if they don't line up with Fox News Reality... "OMG the CBO is in on konspiracy!"
• Like Civ said, you're about to find out how many Republican voters are on Medicaid. Thom Tillis knows, ask him. A few days ago a bunch of Republicans in congress knew, too, just before they did a 180 and caved.

You guys live in this "Let them eat cake!" fantasy land where large swaths of Americans who simply can't get health care in our current health care system will just quietly accept their lot in life. Or where more than about 2% of recipients are just lazy and this will incentivize them afford their health care.

You're like the flaming car wreck that convinces everyone to build a guard rail. If we ever end up with Medicare For All in this country, ironically it'll probably be because of you guys ripping everything else out and handing it to far more deserving billionaires.

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You are correct it was the American Rescue Plan, my apologies, but it did not cut the deficit.

The simple fact is Medicad is returning to what it was designed for, which is a good thing. That means elderly, children, the working who fall below the threshold and cannot get Obamacare. I'm sorry but able body people need to get back into the workforce and not rely on government subsidies for their healthcare.

Now, Tillis, the great and wonderful was simply parroting what the hospital association in NC is fear mongering, which is these Medicad cuts will hurt rule hospitals. Again, the estimates are way over blown and the fact that Medicad patients who are supposed to be on Medicad will remain on Medicad and be billable for healthcare reimbursement.

Single payer is the worst idea ever, there are better ways to reform health insurance that would reduce costs.

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Civilized said:

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Fitting that Trump was either courageous enough or dumb enough to meaningfully cut entitlements, but that, in concert with his tax cuts, the deficit is actually increasing not decreasing even when slashing Medicaid despite the right's never-ending bellyaching about the deficit.

Pubs being proud to successfully woo more lower-income Americans in the last election, and then cutting their health care is an electoral strategy, I guess.

Can't imagine an electoral price won't be paid for this in the 26 mid-terms.

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Medicad was never intended to be an entitlement. Additionally, it doesn't cut the people out that Medicad was originally intended for.

The 12M losing their "health insurance" is a dubious estimate, considering that is strictly an academic estimate done by the CBO, the same folks who thought the American Rescue plan would reduce the deficit. It didn't. Why are we going to believe the CBO which has been consistently wrong?

Trump wooed the middle class voters. Those people will be unaffected. This will have zero consequences in '26

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49% of Medicaid recipients who voted in 2024 backed Trump, according to Morning Consult data published February 27, 2025. That marks a dramatic 21point swing from 2020, when Medicaid voters favored Biden by about 19 points.

Debating who Trump wooed is semantics; the reality is that lower class voters, including those on Medicaid, shifted markedly towards Trump in 2024 and helped him get elected.

None of us know how many Medicaid recipients will actually be kicked off the rolls but in politics, perception is reality. It didn't take anything but the prospect of a single prison inmate receiving a government-sponsored sex change for Trump to successfully run on the issue. No one doubts this Medicaid cut will affect a sizable number of Americans, whether that number is 100,000 or a million or 10 million may well be immaterial if the perception becomes the right favoring their rich cronies over poor Americans.

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I have noticed your attempts of framing "rich cronies" and evil corporations as a conservative boogeymen. Does the left not have rich cronies, evil billionaires and greedy corporations that support their leftist agenda? Are they also part of what you rail against?

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Are you just being willfully myopic? Or do you actually not see completely obvious differences?

No, the left has never run on cutting taxes and ballooning the deficit, especially when even the most simplistic analysis of who would benefit from the proposed cuts yielded the conclusion it would disproportionately be the top 1% of earners, and corporations and not middle class Americans or low-earners.

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So rich people on the right: bad. Rich people on the left: good.

Got it, thanks.

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I'll be Civ's anger translator:

"Republicans literally just took healthcare from the poor to hand tax cuts to billionaires (a.k.a. "rich cronies" like Elon). In fact, they ballooned the deficit even more for good measure for even more billionaire tax cuts, so this had nothing to do with the deficit. Dems don't do that (their billionaires actually ask for their taxes to be raised), so W T F are you talking about? It's hard to put into words how unbelievably dumb you are, so I can only hope this is willful stupidity."

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Why would billionaires have to ask for tax being raised. They are allowed to pay more tax than they owe. No need to ask to raise it just pay more.

ETA: You have to edit every post, normally a few times. Calling someone dumb is a very bold move.

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I'll pretend that's a real question. Becaaaaaaaaaause the economy is massive and a few billionaires choosing to pay more in taxes doesn't solve the problem. What does solve the problem is using their influence to help snap everyone out of their fantasy world where we can keep cutting taxes forever and somehow eliminate all spending to compensate.

The reason I have to edit every post multiple times is because crafting a post directed at guys on a 5th Grade reading level is really challenging and always takes a few tries to get right.

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Most elections seem pretty close democrat vs republican. So extrapolating billionaires do we not assume they are 50 50? Which would mean more than just a few billionaires that want to pay taxes, right? Unless you are saying there are significantly more republican billionaires than democrat billionaires.

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Again, what are you talking about? No one is "extrapolating" all billionaires. There are certainly some vocal lefty billionaires that regularly talk about their taxes being too low. Even Warren Buffet says that.

There is also clearly an activist group of conservative billionaires that have injected themselves into our politics in a way that's way beyond unhealthy for our country... you literally had Elon sitting in Trump's lap in the oval office. They're the ones who dumped millions into making sure this bill passed.

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Civilized said:

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Fitting that Trump was either courageous enough or dumb enough to meaningfully cut entitlements, but that, in concert with his tax cuts, the deficit is actually increasing not decreasing even when slashing Medicaid despite the right's never-ending bellyaching about the deficit.

Pubs being proud to successfully woo more lower-income Americans in the last election, and then cutting their health care is an electoral strategy, I guess.

Can't imagine an electoral price won't be paid for this in the 26 mid-terms.

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Medicad was never intended to be an entitlement. Additionally, it doesn't cut the people out that Medicad was originally intended for.

The 12M losing their "health insurance" is a dubious estimate, considering that is strictly an academic estimate done by the CBO, the same folks who thought the American Rescue plan would reduce the deficit. It didn't. Why are we going to believe the CBO which has been consistently wrong?

Trump wooed the middle class voters. Those people will be unaffected. This will have zero consequences in '26

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49% of Medicaid recipients who voted in 2024 backed Trump, according to Morning Consult data published February 27, 2025. That marks a dramatic 21point swing from 2020, when Medicaid voters favored Biden by about 19 points.

Debating who Trump wooed is semantics; the reality is that lower class voters, including those on Medicaid, shifted markedly towards Trump in 2024 and helped him get elected.

None of us know how many Medicaid recipients will actually be kicked off the rolls but in politics, perception is reality. It didn't take anything but the prospect of a single prison inmate receiving a government-sponsored sex change for Trump to successfully run on the issue. No one doubts this Medicaid cut will affect a sizable number of Americans, whether that number is 100,000 or a million or 10 million may well be immaterial if the perception becomes the right favoring their rich cronies over poor Americans.

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I have noticed your attempts of framing "rich cronies" and evil corporations as a conservative boogeymen. Does the left not have rich cronies, evil billionaires and greedy corporations that support their leftist agenda? Are they also part of what you rail against?

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Are you just being willfully myopic? Or do you actually not see completely obvious differences?

No, the left has never run on cutting taxes and ballooning the deficit, especially when even the most simplistic analysis of who would benefit from the proposed cuts yielded the conclusion it would disproportionately be the top 1% of earners, and corporations and not middle class Americans or low-earners.

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So rich people on the right: bad. Rich people on the left: good.

Got it, thanks.

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I'll be Civ's anger translator:

"Republicans literally just took healthcare from the poor to hand tax cuts to billionaires (a.k.a. "rich cronies" like Elon). In fact, they ballooned the deficit even more for good measure for even more billionaire tax cuts, so this had nothing to do with the deficit. Dems don't do that (their billionaires actually ask for their taxes to be raised), so W T F are you talking about? It's hard to put into words how unbelievably dumb you are, so I can only hope this is willful stupidity."

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Why would billionaires have to ask for tax being raised. They are allowed to pay more tax than they owe. No need to ask to raise it just pay more.

ETA: You have to edit every post, normally a few times. Calling someone dumb is a very bold move.

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I'll pretend that's a real question. Becaaaaaaaaaause the economy is massive and a few billionaires choosing to pay more in taxes doesn't solve the problem. What does solve the problem is using their influence to help snap everyone out of their fantasy world where we can keep cutting taxes forever and somehow eliminate all spending to compensate.

The reason I have to edit every post multiple times is because crafting a post directed at guys on a 5th Grade reading level is really challenging and always takes a few tries to get right.

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Most elections seem pretty close democrat vs republican. So extrapolating billionaires do we not assume they are 50 50? Which would mean more than just a few billionaires that want to pay taxes, right? Unless you are saying there are significantly more republican billionaires than democrat billionaires.

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Again, what are you talking about? No one is "extrapolating" all billionaires. There are certainly some vocal lefty billionaires that regularly talk about their taxes being too low. Even Warren Buffet says that.

There is also clearly an activist group of conservative billionaires that have injected themselves into our politics in a way that's way beyond unhealthy for our country... you literally had Elon sitting in Trump's lap in the oval office. They're the ones who dumped millions into making sure this bill passed.

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Here is exactly what you posted:

Dems don't do that (their billionaires actually ask for their taxes to be raised)

Where in that post does it say "some"? Maybe you needed to edit it a few more times? Your post implies all dem billionaires are in favor of a tax increase.

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Civilized said:

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Fitting that Trump was either courageous enough or dumb enough to meaningfully cut entitlements, but that, in concert with his tax cuts, the deficit is actually increasing not decreasing even when slashing Medicaid despite the right's never-ending bellyaching about the deficit.

Pubs being proud to successfully woo more lower-income Americans in the last election, and then cutting their health care is an electoral strategy, I guess.

Can't imagine an electoral price won't be paid for this in the 26 mid-terms.

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Medicad was never intended to be an entitlement. Additionally, it doesn't cut the people out that Medicad was originally intended for.

The 12M losing their "health insurance" is a dubious estimate, considering that is strictly an academic estimate done by the CBO, the same folks who thought the American Rescue plan would reduce the deficit. It didn't. Why are we going to believe the CBO which has been consistently wrong?

Trump wooed the middle class voters. Those people will be unaffected. This will have zero consequences in '26

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49% of Medicaid recipients who voted in 2024 backed Trump, according to Morning Consult data published February 27, 2025. That marks a dramatic 21point swing from 2020, when Medicaid voters favored Biden by about 19 points.

Debating who Trump wooed is semantics; the reality is that lower class voters, including those on Medicaid, shifted markedly towards Trump in 2024 and helped him get elected.

None of us know how many Medicaid recipients will actually be kicked off the rolls but in politics, perception is reality. It didn't take anything but the prospect of a single prison inmate receiving a government-sponsored sex change for Trump to successfully run on the issue. No one doubts this Medicaid cut will affect a sizable number of Americans, whether that number is 100,000 or a million or 10 million may well be immaterial if the perception becomes the right favoring their rich cronies over poor Americans.

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I have noticed your attempts of framing "rich cronies" and evil corporations as a conservative boogeymen. Does the left not have rich cronies, evil billionaires and greedy corporations that support their leftist agenda? Are they also part of what you rail against?

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Are you just being willfully myopic? Or do you actually not see completely obvious differences?

No, the left has never run on cutting taxes and ballooning the deficit, especially when even the most simplistic analysis of who would benefit from the proposed cuts yielded the conclusion it would disproportionately be the top 1% of earners, and corporations and not middle class Americans or low-earners.

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So rich people on the right: bad. Rich people on the left: good.

Got it, thanks.

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I'll be Civ's anger translator:

"Republicans literally just took healthcare from the poor to hand tax cuts to billionaires (a.k.a. "rich cronies" like Elon). In fact, they ballooned the deficit even more for good measure for even more billionaire tax cuts, so this had nothing to do with the deficit. Dems don't do that (their billionaires actually ask for their taxes to be raised), so W T F are you talking about? It's hard to put into words how unbelievably dumb you are, so I can only hope this is willful stupidity."

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Why would billionaires have to ask for tax being raised. They are allowed to pay more tax than they owe. No need to ask to raise it just pay more.

ETA: You have to edit every post, normally a few times. Calling someone dumb is a very bold move.

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I'll pretend that's a real question. Becaaaaaaaaaause the economy is massive and a few billionaires choosing to pay more in taxes doesn't solve the problem. What does solve the problem is using their influence to help snap everyone out of their fantasy world where we can keep cutting taxes forever and somehow eliminate all spending to compensate.

The reason I have to edit every post multiple times is because crafting a post directed at guys on a 5th Grade reading level is really challenging and always takes a few tries to get right.

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Most elections seem pretty close democrat vs republican. So extrapolating billionaires do we not assume they are 50 50? Which would mean more than just a few billionaires that want to pay taxes, right? Unless you are saying there are significantly more republican billionaires than democrat billionaires.

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Again, what are you talking about? No one is "extrapolating" all billionaires. There are certainly some vocal lefty billionaires that regularly talk about their taxes being too low. Even Warren Buffet says that.

There is also clearly an activist group of conservative billionaires that have injected themselves into our politics in a way that's way beyond unhealthy for our country... you literally had Elon sitting in Trump's lap in the oval office. They're the ones who dumped millions into making sure this bill passed.

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Here is exactly what you posted:

Dems don't do that (their billionaires actually ask for their taxes to be raised)

Where in that post does it say "some"? Maybe you needed to edit it a few more times? Your post implies all dem billionaires are in favor of a tax increase.

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Kamala Harris Has More Billionaires Prominently Backing Her Than Trump

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/30/kamala-harris-has-more-billionaires-prominently-backing-her-than-trump-bezos-and-griffin-weigh-in-updated/
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But I just learned from Civ, rich people on the right are bad. Rich people on the left are good.

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Civilized said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Cthepack said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Civilized said:

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Fitting that Trump was either courageous enough or dumb enough to meaningfully cut entitlements, but that, in concert with his tax cuts, the deficit is actually increasing not decreasing even when slashing Medicaid despite the right's never-ending bellyaching about the deficit.

Pubs being proud to successfully woo more lower-income Americans in the last election, and then cutting their health care is an electoral strategy, I guess.

Can't imagine an electoral price won't be paid for this in the 26 mid-terms.

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Medicad was never intended to be an entitlement. Additionally, it doesn't cut the people out that Medicad was originally intended for.

The 12M losing their "health insurance" is a dubious estimate, considering that is strictly an academic estimate done by the CBO, the same folks who thought the American Rescue plan would reduce the deficit. It didn't. Why are we going to believe the CBO which has been consistently wrong?

Trump wooed the middle class voters. Those people will be unaffected. This will have zero consequences in '26

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49% of Medicaid recipients who voted in 2024 backed Trump, according to Morning Consult data published February 27, 2025. That marks a dramatic 21point swing from 2020, when Medicaid voters favored Biden by about 19 points.

Debating who Trump wooed is semantics; the reality is that lower class voters, including those on Medicaid, shifted markedly towards Trump in 2024 and helped him get elected.

None of us know how many Medicaid recipients will actually be kicked off the rolls but in politics, perception is reality. It didn't take anything but the prospect of a single prison inmate receiving a government-sponsored sex change for Trump to successfully run on the issue. No one doubts this Medicaid cut will affect a sizable number of Americans, whether that number is 100,000 or a million or 10 million may well be immaterial if the perception becomes the right favoring their rich cronies over poor Americans.

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I have noticed your attempts of framing "rich cronies" and evil corporations as a conservative boogeymen. Does the left not have rich cronies, evil billionaires and greedy corporations that support their leftist agenda? Are they also part of what you rail against?

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Are you just being willfully myopic? Or do you actually not see completely obvious differences?

No, the left has never run on cutting taxes and ballooning the deficit, especially when even the most simplistic analysis of who would benefit from the proposed cuts yielded the conclusion it would disproportionately be the top 1% of earners, and corporations and not middle class Americans or low-earners.

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So rich people on the right: bad. Rich people on the left: good.

Got it, thanks.

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I'll be Civ's anger translator:

"Republicans literally just took healthcare from the poor to hand tax cuts to billionaires (a.k.a. "rich cronies" like Elon). In fact, they ballooned the deficit even more for good measure for even more billionaire tax cuts, so this had nothing to do with the deficit. Dems don't do that (their billionaires actually ask for their taxes to be raised), so W T F are you talking about? It's hard to put into words how unbelievably dumb you are, so I can only hope this is willful stupidity."

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Why would billionaires have to ask for tax being raised. They are allowed to pay more tax than they owe. No need to ask to raise it just pay more.

ETA: You have to edit every post, normally a few times. Calling someone dumb is a very bold move.

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I'll pretend that's a real question. Becaaaaaaaaaause the economy is massive and a few billionaires choosing to pay more in taxes doesn't solve the problem. What does solve the problem is using their influence to help snap everyone out of their fantasy world where we can keep cutting taxes forever and somehow eliminate all spending to compensate.

The reason I have to edit every post multiple times is because crafting a post directed at guys on a 5th Grade reading level is really challenging and always takes a few tries to get right.

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Most elections seem pretty close democrat vs republican. So extrapolating billionaires do we not assume they are 50 50? Which would mean more than just a few billionaires that want to pay taxes, right? Unless you are saying there are significantly more republican billionaires than democrat billionaires.

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Again, what are you talking about? No one is "extrapolating" all billionaires. There are certainly some vocal lefty billionaires that regularly talk about their taxes being too low. Even Warren Buffet says that.

There is also clearly an activist group of conservative billionaires that have injected themselves into our politics in a way that's way beyond unhealthy for our country... you literally had Elon sitting in Trump's lap in the oval office. They're the ones who dumped millions into making sure this bill passed.

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Here is exactly what you posted:

Dems don't do that (their billionaires actually ask for their taxes to be raised)

Where in that post does it say "some"? Maybe you needed to edit it a few more times? Your post implies all dem billionaires are in favor of a tax increase.

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Kamala Harris Has More Billionaires Prominently Backing Her Than Trump

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/10/30/kamala-harris-has-more-billionaires-prominently-backing-her-than-trump-bezos-and-griffin-weigh-in-updated/
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But I just learned from Civ, rich people on the right are bad. Rich people on the left are good.

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Sorry, which President is cutting taxes to disproportionately benefit high earners and balloon the deficit again?

75% of the benefit of the BBB accrues to the top 20% of earners, with the top 1% receiving disproportionate benefit especially relative to middle and low-income households.

The floor is yours, man.

Explain to the group why this analysis is incorrect, and how the BBB is actually an egalitarian masterpiece.

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