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SmaptyWolf
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packofwolves said:

Werewolf said:

#Sieve, it's winning! So many more wins ahead of us, #Sieve, can you handle it?




Misleading statement.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/no-tax-on-social-security-dont-be-too-sure-052825.html




Remember that time back in 1973 when Werewolf didn't regurgitate a misleading statement?
Gulfstream4
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jkpackfan said:

If a right wing movement had set on fire a governors mansion, murdered two foreign diplomats and set on fire people at a peaceful protest in the span of a few weeks can you imagine what the coverage would look like?

Absolutely disgusting and it isn't gonna get any better anytime soon.


I'm afraid you are right. The left has fostered this hate for along time and here we are.

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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Boulder attack suspect used a flamethrower and yelled 'Free Palestine'

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/boulder-colorado-antisemitic-attack-06-01-25
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This guy will be a hero for the left. Illegal, Muslim, hates Jews, violent. All the makings of a Democrat.

LOLOL

Yes, yes, the Free Palenstine flamethrower is definitely a virtual lefty Superman.

You've got it nailed.

You love coming on here saying ridiculous **** like this, so put a number on it.

What percentage of "the left" supports loons like this guy?

And before you say something predictably evasive like "I don't know, but it's too high!!11" remember that the Free Palestine loons moved away from Dem politicians the last election, not towards them. And more broadly the Dems lost support amongst Muslims in 2024 for the first time in decades when they moved towards Trump and Jill Stein.




Deep down, you know I'm right. Any other normal, middle of the road person knows I'm right. The left is the party of hate and violence. We see it every day and it's only going to get worse.
SmaptyWolf
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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Boulder attack suspect used a flamethrower and yelled 'Free Palestine'

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/boulder-colorado-antisemitic-attack-06-01-25
- - - -

This guy will be a hero for the left. Illegal, Muslim, hates Jews, violent. All the makings of a Democrat.

LOLOL

Yes, yes, the Free Palenstine flamethrower is definitely a virtual lefty Superman.

You've got it nailed.

You love coming on here saying ridiculous **** like this, so put a number on it.

What percentage of "the left" supports loons like this guy?

And before you say something predictably evasive like "I don't know, but it's too high!!11" remember that the Free Palestine loons moved away from Dem politicians the last election, not towards them. And more broadly the Dems lost support amongst Muslims in 2024 for the first time in decades when they moved towards Trump and Jill Stein.




Deep down, you know I'm right. Any other normal, middle of the road person knows I'm right. The left is the party of hate and violence. We see it every day and it's only going to get worse.
Uh huh.

Given that you can watch a huge mob of MAGA lunatics on TV beat cops to death breaking into the Capitol and convince yourself it was just a pleasant afternoon stroll, I can see how this is all very confusing for you.
Gulfstream4
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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Boulder attack suspect used a flamethrower and yelled 'Free Palestine'

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/boulder-colorado-antisemitic-attack-06-01-25
- - - -

This guy will be a hero for the left. Illegal, Muslim, hates Jews, violent. All the makings of a Democrat.

LOLOL

Yes, yes, the Free Palenstine flamethrower is definitely a virtual lefty Superman.

You've got it nailed.

You love coming on here saying ridiculous **** like this, so put a number on it.

What percentage of "the left" supports loons like this guy?

And before you say something predictably evasive like "I don't know, but it's too high!!11" remember that the Free Palestine loons moved away from Dem politicians the last election, not towards them. And more broadly the Dems lost support amongst Muslims in 2024 for the first time in decades when they moved towards Trump and Jill Stein.




Deep down, you know I'm right. Any other normal, middle of the road person knows I'm right. The left is the party of hate and violence. We see it every day and it's only going to get worse.
Uh huh.

Given that you can watch a huge mob of MAGA lunatics on TV beat cops to death breaking into the Capitol and convince yourself it was just a pleasant afternoon stroll, I can see how this is all very confusing for you.


Can you provide a link regarding "beating cops to death"? If not I will just assume you're talking out of your * as usual and we'll just call it a "mostly peaceful protest".

Anything to offer about the illegal, Jew hating Muslim that set multiple people on fire or the hateful rhetoric we have been hearing from the left that drives people to do things like this?
jkpackfan
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I just saw one of the victims was a holocaust survivor, unbelievable.
Werewolf
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I found it amusing not much discussion of Trump's "Biden was executed in 2020" post above......by the 22yr old.


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Werewolf
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IseWolf22 said:

hokiewolf said:

IseWolf22 said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

Anyone here in the WC think that Trump is physical or voice texting these posts?

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114593880455063168
he dictates them to an aid who writes them for him.

Probably the case for this one as it's very tame by his standards and does not have nearly enough of his characteristics phrases and punctuation.

But a lot of truth social posts are definitely him directly. Lots of them at weird hours that read like a stream of consciousness word salad
No, all of them are. There's video of him doing it and there's a specific aide on staff. It's word for word, not edited.

A video of one doesn't mean it's eveyone. I can believe that most are the side, but I seriously doubt they are sending some of the weirder posts that come out late at night.

Last night after 10 he "re-truthed" an allegation that Biden was executed and replaced by a clone
That crazy Trump.....LOL Apparently, you're ready to learn some truths........

EDIT: actually you and some others may not, however, the judgment is - apparently - that the population is ready.



Werewolf
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By the way, here's another one to prepare yourself for.
SmaptyWolf
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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Boulder attack suspect used a flamethrower and yelled 'Free Palestine'

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/boulder-colorado-antisemitic-attack-06-01-25
- - - -

This guy will be a hero for the left. Illegal, Muslim, hates Jews, violent. All the makings of a Democrat.

LOLOL

Yes, yes, the Free Palenstine flamethrower is definitely a virtual lefty Superman.

You've got it nailed.

You love coming on here saying ridiculous **** like this, so put a number on it.

What percentage of "the left" supports loons like this guy?

And before you say something predictably evasive like "I don't know, but it's too high!!11" remember that the Free Palestine loons moved away from Dem politicians the last election, not towards them. And more broadly the Dems lost support amongst Muslims in 2024 for the first time in decades when they moved towards Trump and Jill Stein.




Deep down, you know I'm right. Any other normal, middle of the road person knows I'm right. The left is the party of hate and violence. We see it every day and it's only going to get worse.
Uh huh.

Given that you can watch a huge mob of MAGA lunatics on TV beat cops to death breaking into the Capitol and convince yourself it was just a pleasant afternoon stroll, I can see how this is all very confusing for you.


Can you provide a link regarding "beating cops to death"? If not I will just assume you're talking out of your * as usual and we'll just call it a "mostly peaceful protest".

Anything to offer about the illegal, Jew hating Muslim that set multiple people on fire or the hateful rhetoric we have been hearing from the left that drives people to do things like this?

Sure, since they don't have the internet in your MAGA safe space, I'll help you out.

Here's a Capitol Police memorial for a cop who died:
https://www.uscp.gov/about/honoring-our-fallen/officer-brian-sicknick

Within several months four other cops who were there committed suicide. Around 140 others were assaulted... concussions, one lost the tip of his finger, etc, etc, etc.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/11/us/politics/capitol-riot-police-officer-injuries.html

Here's one of 6 million videos of the mob beating police:


And here are some of the peaceful protestors that Trump pardoned:


Man, this MAGA cult has you so turned around that I'm sure after Trump snapped his fingers any January 6th video you see now is just a black screen. F'ing lunatics.
Werewolf
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Love it........this is gonna be sweeter than it already is.

Here's another one. An Insurrection Act document was not prepared as a result of the 2020 election, #devolution was the choice.
Werewolf
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Fellas, put your hands over your eyes and your fingers in your ears.......LOL. My understanding is that there were at one time four different Joe Biden's. I understand that one died of natural causes and 3 remained to continue the 4 years.

#CentralCasting
Werewolf
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Joe Rogan caught this one.......but I'd bet this is the one time this guy played Biden at 6'-8" or so. LOL
Werewolf
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I'll tie it together for ya........see the bottom right video, now play it.

Werewolf
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and here's another one.........I shared this at least one time before. 3 Cannons is for a funeral..........Biden's, in this case.
Werewolf
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The real military salute is 3 seconds, Biden's was 9 seconds. Fellas, wake the F up.


Werewolf
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LOL, that Donald J Trump, aka Q+, is such a crazy conspiracy F'er. :LMAO

By the way, things are about to get #EXCITING.....to say the least.
Werewolf
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Hey #Sieve, you're a good dude......and you're a good sport. But, one more time,...........#DEVOLUTION, special for you.

Werewolf
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Here's how some here were FURTHER PROGRAMMED in 2016. #MKUltra'd

Werewolf
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A representative of a powerful tool of the Deep State, the MSM. Stephen Miller wrecks the #MockingbirdMedia once again.


Werewolf
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I smell the US Military..............
Werewolf
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#Sieve, it's called #WINNING. What's the score now, #Sieve?

Werewolf
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The #MSM is the enemy of the people.
Oldsouljer
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I spent four years with The Old Guard at Arlington. This is flat out stupid.
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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Boulder attack suspect used a flamethrower and yelled 'Free Palestine'

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/boulder-colorado-antisemitic-attack-06-01-25
- - - -

This guy will be a hero for the left. Illegal, Muslim, hates Jews, violent. All the makings of a Democrat.

LOLOL

Yes, yes, the Free Palenstine flamethrower is definitely a virtual lefty Superman.

You've got it nailed.

You love coming on here saying ridiculous **** like this, so put a number on it.

What percentage of "the left" supports loons like this guy?

And before you say something predictably evasive like "I don't know, but it's too high!!11" remember that the Free Palestine loons moved away from Dem politicians the last election, not towards them. And more broadly the Dems lost support amongst Muslims in 2024 for the first time in decades when they moved towards Trump and Jill Stein.




Deep down, you know I'm right. Any other normal, middle of the road person knows I'm right. The left is the party of hate and violence. We see it every day and it's only going to get worse.

Touch grass, man.

Just because you don't like Dems, and don't like the Free Palestine loons, doesn't mean that somehow the Dems and the loons are singing from the same sheet of music.

And as mentioned, in the last election the free Palestine butthurts didn't find the Dem party hospitable to their lunacy amongst party leadership or the electorate so they took their talents elsewhere.

There is an essentially 'zero' level of support for this loon's actions amongst either party's elected leaders or voters.

Chat GPT says it well.

The prompt: "Which American political party is more prone to hate speech and political violence?"

AI response:

Quote:

There is no definitive, unbiased answer that says one American political party is *inherently* more prone to hate speech or political violence. However, political scientists, law enforcement agencies, and research organizations have analyzed trends, and some patterns emerge though they are complex and context-dependent. Here's a summary of what is known:

---

1. Political Violence:

FBI and DHS assessments over recent years have reported that:

Right-wing extremist violence (often not officially tied to the Republican Party, but ideologically adjacent) has accounted for a larger share of domestic terrorism incidents, particularly involving white supremacist, anti-government, or militia movements.

Left-wing violence (e.g., some anarchist or Antifa-associated individuals) has occurred but generally results in fewer deaths and is less organized. Most left-aligned political violence has been tied to property damage or confrontations during protests.

Example sources:

FBI/DHS reports on domestic terrorism (20202023)
CSIS (Center for Strategic and International Studies): Right-wing groups have been responsible for the majority of deadly political violence in the U.S. over the past decade.

---

2. Hate Speech:

Right-wing rhetoric, particularly from some elements of the GOP or its media ecosystem, has been criticized for including xenophobic, anti-LGBTQ+, or racist language particularly in social media and campaign discourse.
Left-wing discourse is generally more policed internally for hate speech, though critics argue that aggressive "cancel culture" or deplatforming tactics can suppress free speech and breed hostility.

Note: Hate speech is not always illegal in the U.S., due to First Amendment protections, unless it directly incites violence.

---

3. Important Nuance:

Mainstream Democratic and Republican politicians often denounce violence and hate speech.
Extremism is often on the fringes not the official position of either party.
Political polarization amplifies the most extreme voices on both sides, especially through social media.

---

In Conclusion:

If you're asking which side has been more often connected to deadly violence and hate groups in recent years, the data points more often to right-wing extremism. But this does not mean all Republicans are violent or hateful, nor that the left is free of violent or extreme rhetoric.

SmaptyWolf
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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Boulder attack suspect used a flamethrower and yelled 'Free Palestine'

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/boulder-colorado-antisemitic-attack-06-01-25
- - - -

This guy will be a hero for the left. Illegal, Muslim, hates Jews, violent. All the makings of a Democrat.

LOLOL

Yes, yes, the Free Palenstine flamethrower is definitely a virtual lefty Superman.

You've got it nailed.

You love coming on here saying ridiculous **** like this, so put a number on it.

What percentage of "the left" supports loons like this guy?

And before you say something predictably evasive like "I don't know, but it's too high!!11" remember that the Free Palestine loons moved away from Dem politicians the last election, not towards them. And more broadly the Dems lost support amongst Muslims in 2024 for the first time in decades when they moved towards Trump and Jill Stein.




Deep down, you know I'm right. Any other normal, middle of the road person knows I'm right. The left is the party of hate and violence. We see it every day and it's only going to get worse.

Touch grass, man.

Just because you don't like Dems, and don't like the Free Palestine loons, doesn't mean that somehow the Dems and the loons are singing from the same sheet of music.

And as mentioned, in the last election the free Palestine butthurts didn't find the Dem party hospitable to their lunacy amongst party leadership or the electorate so they took their talents elsewhere.

There is an essentially 'zero' level of support for this loon's actions amongst either party's elected leaders or voters.

Chat GPT says it well.

The prompt: "Which American political party is more prone to hate speech and political violence?"

AI response:

Quote:

...

3. Important Nuance:

Mainstream Democratic and Republican politicians often denounce violence and hate speech.
Extremism is often on the fringes not the official position of either party.
Political polarization amplifies the most extreme voices on both sides, especially through social media.

...

Until Trump came along and introduced us to late night "VERMIN" tweeting.
Gulfstream4
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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Boulder attack suspect used a flamethrower and yelled 'Free Palestine'

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/boulder-colorado-antisemitic-attack-06-01-25
- - - -

This guy will be a hero for the left. Illegal, Muslim, hates Jews, violent. All the makings of a Democrat.

LOLOL

Yes, yes, the Free Palenstine flamethrower is definitely a virtual lefty Superman.

You've got it nailed.

You love coming on here saying ridiculous **** like this, so put a number on it.

What percentage of "the left" supports loons like this guy?

And before you say something predictably evasive like "I don't know, but it's too high!!11" remember that the Free Palestine loons moved away from Dem politicians the last election, not towards them. And more broadly the Dems lost support amongst Muslims in 2024 for the first time in decades when they moved towards Trump and Jill Stein.




Deep down, you know I'm right. Any other normal, middle of the road person knows I'm right. The left is the party of hate and violence. We see it every day and it's only going to get worse.
Uh huh.

Given that you can watch a huge mob of MAGA lunatics on TV beat cops to death breaking into the Capitol and convince yourself it was just a pleasant afternoon stroll, I can see how this is all very confusing for you.


Can you provide a link regarding "beating cops to death"? If not I will just assume you're talking out of your * as usual and we'll just call it a "mostly peaceful protest".

Anything to offer about the illegal, Jew hating Muslim that set multiple people on fire or the hateful rhetoric we have been hearing from the left that drives people to do things like this?

Sure, since they don't have the internet in your MAGA safe space, I'll help you out.

Here's a Capitol Police memorial for a cop who died:
https://www.uscp.gov/about/honoring-our-fallen/officer-brian-sicknick

Within several months four other cops who were there committed suicide. Around 140 others were assaulted... concussions, one lost the tip of his finger, etc, etc, etc.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/11/us/politics/capitol-riot-police-officer-injuries.html

Here's one of 6 million videos of the mob beating police:


And here are some of the peaceful protestors that Trump pardoned:


Man, this MAGA cult has you so turned around that I'm sure after Trump snapped his fingers any January 6th video you see now is just a black screen. F'ing lunatics.


Nothing you posted said anything about "beating cops to death". As usual you twist a narrative to fit you childish views of the world.

I'll ask again, any to offer on the illegal Jew hating Muslim that set multiple people on fire or the hateful rhetoric we hear everyday from the left that dives people to do these things?

Do you even feel any sympathy?
Oldsouljer
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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Boulder attack suspect used a flamethrower and yelled 'Free Palestine'

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/boulder-colorado-antisemitic-attack-06-01-25
- - - -

This guy will be a hero for the left. Illegal, Muslim, hates Jews, violent. All the makings of a Democrat.

LOLOL

Yes, yes, the Free Palenstine flamethrower is definitely a virtual lefty Superman.

You've got it nailed.

You love coming on here saying ridiculous **** like this, so put a number on it.

What percentage of "the left" supports loons like this guy?

And before you say something predictably evasive like "I don't know, but it's too high!!11" remember that the Free Palestine loons moved away from Dem politicians the last election, not towards them. And more broadly the Dems lost support amongst Muslims in 2024 for the first time in decades when they moved towards Trump and Jill Stein.




Deep down, you know I'm right. Any other normal, middle of the road person knows I'm right. The left is the party of hate and violence. We see it every day and it's only going to get worse.

Touch grass, man.

Just because you don't like Dems, and don't like the Free Palestine loons, doesn't mean that somehow the Dems and the loons are singing from the same sheet of music.

And as mentioned, in the last election the free Palestine butthurts didn't find the Dem party hospitable to their lunacy amongst party leadership or the electorate so they took their talents elsewhere.

There is an essentially 'zero' level of support for this loon's actions amongst either party's elected leaders or voters.

Chat GPT says it well.

The prompt: "Which American political party is more prone to hate speech and political violence?"

AI response:

Quote:

There is no definitive, unbiased answer that says one American political party is *inherently* more prone to hate speech or political violence. However, political scientists, law enforcement agencies, and research organizations have analyzed trends, and some patterns emerge though they are complex and context-dependent. Here's a summary of what is known:

---

1. Political Violence:

FBI and DHS assessments over recent years have reported that:

Right-wing extremist violence (often not officially tied to the Republican Party, but ideologically adjacent) has accounted for a larger share of domestic terrorism incidents, particularly involving white supremacist, anti-government, or militia movements.

Left-wing violence (e.g., some anarchist or Antifa-associated individuals) has occurred but generally results in fewer deaths and is less organized. Most left-aligned political violence has been tied to property damage or confrontations during protests.

Example sources:

FBI/DHS reports on domestic terrorism (20202023)
CSIS (Center for Strategic and International Studies): Right-wing groups have been responsible for the majority of deadly political violence in the U.S. over the past decade.

---

2. Hate Speech:

Right-wing rhetoric, particularly from some elements of the GOP or its media ecosystem, has been criticized for including xenophobic, anti-LGBTQ+, or racist language particularly in social media and campaign discourse.
Left-wing discourse is generally more policed internally for hate speech, though critics argue that aggressive "cancel culture" or deplatforming tactics can suppress free speech and breed hostility.

Note: Hate speech is not always illegal in the U.S., due to First Amendment protections, unless it directly incites violence.

---

3. Important Nuance:

Mainstream Democratic and Republican politicians often denounce violence and hate speech.
Extremism is often on the fringes not the official position of either party.
Political polarization amplifies the most extreme voices on both sides, especially through social media.

---

In Conclusion:

If you're asking which side has been more often connected to deadly violence and hate groups in recent years, the data points more often to right-wing extremism. But this does not mean all Republicans are violent or hateful, nor that the left is free of violent or extreme rhetoric.


Depending on AI to settle a question like this? Well, I suppose it was only a matter of time.
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Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Boulder attack suspect used a flamethrower and yelled 'Free Palestine'

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/boulder-colorado-antisemitic-attack-06-01-25
- - - -

This guy will be a hero for the left. Illegal, Muslim, hates Jews, violent. All the makings of a Democrat.

LOLOL

Yes, yes, the Free Palenstine flamethrower is definitely a virtual lefty Superman.

You've got it nailed.

You love coming on here saying ridiculous **** like this, so put a number on it.

What percentage of "the left" supports loons like this guy?

And before you say something predictably evasive like "I don't know, but it's too high!!11" remember that the Free Palestine loons moved away from Dem politicians the last election, not towards them. And more broadly the Dems lost support amongst Muslims in 2024 for the first time in decades when they moved towards Trump and Jill Stein.




Deep down, you know I'm right. Any other normal, middle of the road person knows I'm right. The left is the party of hate and violence. We see it every day and it's only going to get worse.

Touch grass, man.

Just because you don't like Dems, and don't like the Free Palestine loons, doesn't mean that somehow the Dems and the loons are singing from the same sheet of music.

And as mentioned, in the last election the free Palestine butthurts didn't find the Dem party hospitable to their lunacy amongst party leadership or the electorate so they took their talents elsewhere.

There is an essentially 'zero' level of support for this loon's actions amongst either party's elected leaders or voters.

Chat GPT says it well.

The prompt: "Which American political party is more prone to hate speech and political violence?"

AI response:

Quote:

There is no definitive, unbiased answer that says one American political party is *inherently* more prone to hate speech or political violence. However, political scientists, law enforcement agencies, and research organizations have analyzed trends, and some patterns emerge though they are complex and context-dependent. Here's a summary of what is known:

---

1. Political Violence:

FBI and DHS assessments over recent years have reported that:

Right-wing extremist violence (often not officially tied to the Republican Party, but ideologically adjacent) has accounted for a larger share of domestic terrorism incidents, particularly involving white supremacist, anti-government, or militia movements.

Left-wing violence (e.g., some anarchist or Antifa-associated individuals) has occurred but generally results in fewer deaths and is less organized. Most left-aligned political violence has been tied to property damage or confrontations during protests.

Example sources:

FBI/DHS reports on domestic terrorism (20202023)
CSIS (Center for Strategic and International Studies): Right-wing groups have been responsible for the majority of deadly political violence in the U.S. over the past decade.

---

2. Hate Speech:

Right-wing rhetoric, particularly from some elements of the GOP or its media ecosystem, has been criticized for including xenophobic, anti-LGBTQ+, or racist language particularly in social media and campaign discourse.
Left-wing discourse is generally more policed internally for hate speech, though critics argue that aggressive "cancel culture" or deplatforming tactics can suppress free speech and breed hostility.

Note: Hate speech is not always illegal in the U.S., due to First Amendment protections, unless it directly incites violence.

---

3. Important Nuance:

Mainstream Democratic and Republican politicians often denounce violence and hate speech.
Extremism is often on the fringes not the official position of either party.
Political polarization amplifies the most extreme voices on both sides, especially through social media.

---

In Conclusion:

If you're asking which side has been more often connected to deadly violence and hate groups in recent years, the data points more often to right-wing extremism. But this does not mean all Republicans are violent or hateful, nor that the left is free of violent or extreme rhetoric.


Depending on AI to settle a question like this? Well, I suppose it was only a matter of time.

Only a matter of time before our AI overlords are judge/jury/executioner.
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Gulfstream4 said:

Nothing you posted said anything about "beating cops to death". As usual you twist a narrative to fit you childish views of the world.

I'll ask again, any to offer on the illegal Jew hating Muslim that set multiple people on fire or the hateful rhetoric we hear everyday from the left that dives people to do these things?

Do you even feel any sympathy?

Can you give examples of "hateful rhetoric we hear everyday from the left that drives people to do these things?"

hokiewolf
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The time for political argument is over. The Intifada is clearly on American soil. Political rhetoric is not what is driving this They don't vote at the ballot box, they vote with violence. This is hatred of Jews and Israel.

This country needs to get out of this being a political issue and come together to defeat this menace.
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hokiewolf said:

The time for political argument is over. The Intifada is clearly on American soil. Political rhetoric is not what is driving this They don't vote at the ballot box, they vote with violence. This is hatred of Jews and Israel.

This country needs to get out of this being a political issue and come together to defeat this menace.

Agree this needs non-partisan/bipartisan support.

Anti-semitism is on the rise and needs to be combated; Israel needs to defend itself; and we need to try to bring everything possible to bear on the situation to support peace in the region, which will in turn eliminate civilian and IDF soldier deaths.
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Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

The time for political argument is over. The Intifada is clearly on American soil. Political rhetoric is not what is driving this They don't vote at the ballot box, they vote with violence. This is hatred of Jews and Israel.

This country needs to get out of this being a political issue and come together to defeat this menace.

Agree this needs non-partisan/bipartisan support.

Anti-semitism is on the rise and needs to be combated; Israel needs to defend itself; and we need to try to bring everything possible to bear on the situation to support peace in the region, which will in turn eliminate civilian and IDF soldier deaths.
Everything possible is getting out of the way and letting Israel destroy Hamas. That's the only way.
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hokiewolf said:

Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

The time for political argument is over. The Intifada is clearly on American soil. Political rhetoric is not what is driving this They don't vote at the ballot box, they vote with violence. This is hatred of Jews and Israel.

This country needs to get out of this being a political issue and come together to defeat this menace.

Agree this needs non-partisan/bipartisan support.

Anti-semitism is on the rise and needs to be combated; Israel needs to defend itself; and we need to try to bring everything possible to bear on the situation to support peace in the region, which will in turn eliminate civilian and IDF soldier deaths.
Everything possible is getting out of the way and letting Israel destroy Hamas. That's the only way.

Can you do that militarily though?

That's the everloving problem here.

Israel has to protect itself militarily when attacked - 100%.

But if the defense turns into an Israeli quest to extinguish Hamas, does every Hamas fighter killed spawn two more fundamentalist or jihadist Muslims that are now even more validated in their narrative that Western world aggressively attacks Islam, which then necessitates even more violence to protect it?

The $64k question is how to effectively combat fundamentalism and jihadism in a way that doesn't perpetuate or exacerbate that cycle of violence.
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Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

Civilized said:

hokiewolf said:

The time for political argument is over. The Intifada is clearly on American soil. Political rhetoric is not what is driving this They don't vote at the ballot box, they vote with violence. This is hatred of Jews and Israel.

This country needs to get out of this being a political issue and come together to defeat this menace.

Agree this needs non-partisan/bipartisan support.

Anti-semitism is on the rise and needs to be combated; Israel needs to defend itself; and we need to try to bring everything possible to bear on the situation to support peace in the region, which will in turn eliminate civilian and IDF soldier deaths.
Everything possible is getting out of the way and letting Israel destroy Hamas. That's the only way.

Can you do that militarily though?

That's the everloving problem here.

Israel has to protect itself militarily when attacked - 100%.

But if the defense turns into an Israeli quest to extinguish Hamas, does every Hamas fighter killed spawn two more fundamentalist or jihadist Muslims that are now even more validated in their narrative that Western world aggressively attacks Islam, which then necessitates even more violence to protect it?

The $64k question is how to effectively combat fundamentalism and jihadism in a way that doesn't perpetuate or exacerbate that cycle of violence.
the cycle of violence isn't the fault of Israel's existence. It is the fault of those leaders who have chosen terrorism as the only answer. You kill those people until they learn to change.
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