When tariffs were first imposed you went on and on about how this will impact the consumer due to price increases. I think you brought up buying a truck. Now you are complaining that Trump is doing everything he can to force the companies to eat the tariffs and you seem upset about that. Which is it?hokiewolf said:
Central industrial planning is the tits.Here's the president of the U.S. telling a private company how it must make its products, on pain of seeing a massive, government-imposed increase in its input costs. I very rarely use the word "fascist," but this is unconstitutional, fascist nonsense. pic.twitter.com/h3Or89Feb5
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Cthepack said:When tariffs were first imposed you went on and on about how this will impact the consumer due to price increases. I think you brought up buying a truck. Now you are complaining that Trump is doing everything he can to force the companies to eat the tariffs and you seem upset about that. Which is it?hokiewolf said:
Central industrial planning is the tits.Here's the president of the U.S. telling a private company how it must make its products, on pain of seeing a massive, government-imposed increase in its input costs. I very rarely use the word "fascist," but this is unconstitutional, fascist nonsense. pic.twitter.com/h3Or89Feb5
— James Surowiecki (@JamesSurowiecki) May 23, 2025
It's both. Obviously.
Trump is implementing bad policy and then trying to coerce businesses to not act rationally and in the best interests of their shareholders and business.
He's wrong on both accounts.
How about not implementing tariffs that every economist in the world that's not sucking from Trump's teat agrees are taxes on consumers, and then the President won't have to try to cajole and shame businesses into not increasing prices in accordance with their newly increased costs that got jacked up because of his tariffs?
I was told that the other countries would pay for the tariffs, but now we are saying that US businesses, some with low profit margins should eat the tariffs? Why should tariffs be enacted if they are going to hurt American businesses? I thought we were protecting American businesses with these tariffs?
Also, Trump last month or so, carved out an exemption for Apple products, the market recovered, so now we're going back to tariffs?
This is the result of not having an actual policy on tariffs, and Congress not checking Trump on tariff powers and instead letting him treat the world economy like his personal jenga tower.
I don't understand how someone can defend this stuff.
Also, Trump last month or so, carved out an exemption for Apple products, the market recovered, so now we're going back to tariffs?
This is the result of not having an actual policy on tariffs, and Congress not checking Trump on tariff powers and instead letting him treat the world economy like his personal jenga tower.
I don't understand how someone can defend this stuff.
Maybe, because almost everything he's doing is working...hokiewolf said:
I don't understand how someone can defend this stuff.
ok Howard Lutnick lolTheStorm said:Maybe, because almost everything he's doing is working...hokiewolf said:
I don't understand how someone can defend this stuff.
TheStorm said:Maybe, because almost everything he's doing is working...hokiewolf said:
I don't understand how someone can defend this stuff.
Forget "everything."
Give three examples of what's "working."
Come on Hokie. You are being obtuse. Make it in the US, source it in the US, no tariff impact. Not at all hard to understand.
I am not defending anyone but the largest economy by far can try some of these things and see how it goes. So far not much has changed.
I am not defending anyone but the largest economy by far can try some of these things and see how it goes. So far not much has changed.
Civilized said:Cthepack said:When tariffs were first imposed you went on and on about how this will impact the consumer due to price increases. I think you brought up buying a truck. Now you are complaining that Trump is doing everything he can to force the companies to eat the tariffs and you seem upset about that. Which is it?hokiewolf said:
Central industrial planning is the tits.Here's the president of the U.S. telling a private company how it must make its products, on pain of seeing a massive, government-imposed increase in its input costs. I very rarely use the word "fascist," but this is unconstitutional, fascist nonsense. pic.twitter.com/h3Or89Feb5
— James Surowiecki (@JamesSurowiecki) May 23, 2025
It's both. Obviously.
Trump is implementing bad policy and then trying to coerce businesses to not act rationally and in the best interests of their shareholders and business.
He's wrong on both accounts.
How about not implementing tariffs that every economist in the world that's not sucking from Trump's teat agrees are taxes on consumers, and then the President won't have to try to cajole and shame businesses into not increasing prices in accordance with their newly increased costs that got jacked up because of his tariffs?
Every economist you say? So tell me what impact have they had? Inflation went down in the US, jobs went up. What has gone bad?
Civilized said:TheStorm said:Maybe, because almost everything he's doing is working...hokiewolf said:
I don't understand how someone can defend this stuff.
Forget "everything."
Give three examples of what's "working."
You are the one saying it is terrible to do, What has gone bad?
I know exactly how its going to go, it's not going to work, a cast system will be created where advanced products will only be affordable to the wealthy in this country because you are dismantling the consumer benefit that supply chains that are working just dandy have created, which for some reason we would like to destroy.Cthepack said:
Come on Hokie. You are being obtuse. Make it in the US, source it in the US, no tariff impact. Not at all hard to understand.
I am not defending anyone but the largest economy by far can try some of these things and see how it goes. So far not much has changed.
What's that reason? Well, I guess what we want to do is to lower the demand for advanced products so the good paying white collar jobs that everyone who works them are happy with and exchange them for blue collar jobs where they are manufactured in the US when most Americans prefer the current and US manufacturing is already having trouble recruiting manufacturing jobs.
So here we have one man, on his whims, dictating how and where Americans should work, without really understanding the consequences of those actions.
You are being obtuse. You CANNOT source everything in the US and make everything in the US. It is just not possible. Chip manufacturing, there is proprietary equipment that can only be made in Europe, which can NEVER be manufactured in the US.
You combine that with the decision to not make any changes to the immigration system so that people can come work here LEAGALLY (Please notice I said legally) because we do not have the labor force to even attempt to do what is being proposed to do.
The parts of a car already go through dozens of tariff exchanges between Canada, US and Mexico, and all that does is add to the price of all vehicles. Wouldn't the smart thing to do is to sit down with those countries and figure out how to eliminate those tariffs instead of jacking them up to ludicrous amounts?
Finally, what manufacturing in the US needs to be repatriated? No one has ever answered that question. If the answer is some nostalgic manufacturing stuff, that's never coming back to the US. NEVER. All this is going to do is raise prices indefinitely for everything that has a component manufactured abroad, and allow anything manufactured in the US that is competition to raise their prices too (i.e. Steel, Aluminum, Copper).
So no, I'm not for waking up every day and seeing policies changed based on non-sound economic principles. Trade is not a zero sum game. If I go to the grocery store and pay money for my groceries, is the grocery store ripping me off? Or am I getting a benefit from that trade deficit?
Trump doesn't understand trade at all, and it's causing harm to our county and free people everywhere. He will be the reason the economy is being held back from higher GDP growth, which BTW he needs to not create a debt crisis in this country, which we will have soon.
He knows exactly. He does. Just like he understood Covid, the jabs, Ukraine, the 2024 election......yep, he knows.
Gobbler will be eating crow when the 2020 election reveal occurs.....just wrong again . Wrong all the time.
Gobbler will be eating crow when the 2020 election reveal occurs.....just wrong again . Wrong all the time.
HE THINKS A EUROPEAN VAT IS A DISCRIMINATORY TAX AGAINST US IMPORTS. So you're as dumb as he is.Werewolf said:
He knows exactly. He does. Just like he understood Covid, the jabs, Ukraine, the 2024 election......yep, he knows.
Gobbler will be eating crow when the 2020 election reveal occurs.....just wrong again . Wrong all the time.
He's also the guy who removed all the red tape to get the "jabs" out to the public sooner. I guess that's ok in your weird world?
So almost 37 trillion isn't a debt crisis but it will be soon because of Trump?hokiewolf said:I know exactly how its going to go, it's not going to work, a cast system will be created where advanced products will only be affordable to the wealthy in this country because you are dismantling the consumer benefit that supply chains that are working just dandy have created, which for some reason we would like to destroy.Cthepack said:
Come on Hokie. You are being obtuse. Make it in the US, source it in the US, no tariff impact. Not at all hard to understand.
I am not defending anyone but the largest economy by far can try some of these things and see how it goes. So far not much has changed.
What's that reason? Well, I guess what we want to do is to lower the demand for advanced products so the good paying white collar jobs that everyone who works them are happy with and exchange them for blue collar jobs where they are manufactured in the US when most Americans prefer the current and US manufacturing is already having trouble recruiting manufacturing jobs.
So here we have one man, on his whims, dictating how and where Americans should work, without really understanding the consequences of those actions.
You are being obtuse. You CANNOT source everything in the US and make everything in the US. It is just not possible. Chip manufacturing, there is proprietary equipment that can only be made in Europe, which can NEVER be manufactured in the US.
You combine that with the decision to not make any changes to the immigration system so that people can come work here LEAGALLY (Please notice I said legally) because we do not have the labor force to even attempt to do what is being proposed to do.
The parts of a car already go through dozens of tariff exchanges between Canada, US and Mexico, and all that does is add to the price of all vehicles. Wouldn't the smart thing to do is to sit down with those countries and figure out how to eliminate those tariffs instead of jacking them up to ludicrous amounts?
Finally, what manufacturing in the US needs to be repatriated? No one has ever answered that question. If the answer is some nostalgic manufacturing stuff, that's never coming back to the US. NEVER. All this is going to do is raise prices indefinitely for everything that has a component manufactured abroad, and allow anything manufactured in the US that is competition to raise their prices too (i.e. Steel, Aluminum, Copper).
So no, I'm not for waking up every day and seeing policies changed based on non-sound economic principles. Trade is not a zero sum game. If I go to the grocery store and pay money for my groceries, is the grocery store ripping me off? Or am I getting a benefit from that trade deficit?
Trump doesn't understand trade at all, and it's causing harm to our county and free people everywhere. He will be the reason the economy is being held back from higher GDP growth, which BTW he needs to not create a debt crisis in this country, which we will have soon.
Hey now I thought you didn't like people lobbing out insults?hokiewolf said:HE THINKS A EUROPEAN VAT IS A DISCRIMINATORY TAX AGAINST US IMPORTS. So you're as dumb as he is.Werewolf said:
He knows exactly. He does. Just like he understood Covid, the jabs, Ukraine, the 2024 election......yep, he knows.
Gobbler will be eating crow when the 2020 election reveal occurs.....just wrong again . Wrong all the time.
He's also the guy who removed all the red tape to get the "jabs" out to the public sooner. I guess that's ok in your weird world?
Maybe I should run to James.
Gobbler Sieve and Nappy will insist these guys are all squeaky clean.
The DOGE has submitted a list of 163 Congress members to the IRS for an “immediate audit,” with sources indicating that 156 of them are Democrats. pic.twitter.com/bz5v5LThYx
— Tulsi Gabbard Intelligence Report (@TulsiGabbardDNI) May 22, 2025
He is a whiny baby, he'll understand!
Yes, it is. He contributed to the $37T in his first term. We are not adding another $3.1T to the deficit in the next 10 with the "One, Big, Beautiful Bill", which I hate to break it to you, has some really rosy economic assumptions - i.e. interest rates settling at 3.6%. Sounds pretty good, except if they are wrong, and because Trump has decided to FAFO on trade and spooking the bond markets, that's probably not going to happen. BTW, if he manages to get it to 4.5%, we only add an additional $40T to that $3.1T.jkpackfan said:So almost 37 trillion isn't a debt crisis but it will be soon because of Trump?hokiewolf said:I know exactly how its going to go, it's not going to work, a cast system will be created where advanced products will only be affordable to the wealthy in this country because you are dismantling the consumer benefit that supply chains that are working just dandy have created, which for some reason we would like to destroy.Cthepack said:
Come on Hokie. You are being obtuse. Make it in the US, source it in the US, no tariff impact. Not at all hard to understand.
I am not defending anyone but the largest economy by far can try some of these things and see how it goes. So far not much has changed.
What's that reason? Well, I guess what we want to do is to lower the demand for advanced products so the good paying white collar jobs that everyone who works them are happy with and exchange them for blue collar jobs where they are manufactured in the US when most Americans prefer the current and US manufacturing is already having trouble recruiting manufacturing jobs.
So here we have one man, on his whims, dictating how and where Americans should work, without really understanding the consequences of those actions.
You are being obtuse. You CANNOT source everything in the US and make everything in the US. It is just not possible. Chip manufacturing, there is proprietary equipment that can only be made in Europe, which can NEVER be manufactured in the US.
You combine that with the decision to not make any changes to the immigration system so that people can come work here LEAGALLY (Please notice I said legally) because we do not have the labor force to even attempt to do what is being proposed to do.
The parts of a car already go through dozens of tariff exchanges between Canada, US and Mexico, and all that does is add to the price of all vehicles. Wouldn't the smart thing to do is to sit down with those countries and figure out how to eliminate those tariffs instead of jacking them up to ludicrous amounts?
Finally, what manufacturing in the US needs to be repatriated? No one has ever answered that question. If the answer is some nostalgic manufacturing stuff, that's never coming back to the US. NEVER. All this is going to do is raise prices indefinitely for everything that has a component manufactured abroad, and allow anything manufactured in the US that is competition to raise their prices too (i.e. Steel, Aluminum, Copper).
So no, I'm not for waking up every day and seeing policies changed based on non-sound economic principles. Trade is not a zero sum game. If I go to the grocery store and pay money for my groceries, is the grocery store ripping me off? Or am I getting a benefit from that trade deficit?
Trump doesn't understand trade at all, and it's causing harm to our county and free people everywhere. He will be the reason the economy is being held back from higher GDP growth, which BTW he needs to not create a debt crisis in this country, which we will have soon.
I remember a time when the argument for elevating Trump was that he would throttle the RINOs who forever promised to balance the national books before wilting when given the chance. Remember Making America Great Again would require making America solvent again? He was just the man to do it! The reality this week is precisely the opposite.
Don't F around with Medicaid, Medicare and SS are off limits, so is Defense and debt service. He simply has not done the job. So yes, Trump is to blame. Not solely to blame mind you, but he did nothing that he promised in his first term, and everything he's promised in his second, and it's going to turn bad to worse debt wise.
Again, the problem with populists is that are elected to be liked, not to be good at governing. Its a shame there is zero chance of that changing any time soon with either party, they both cater to the worst ideologs in their parties.
Now others can commence insulting me instead of refuting my points.
Well, he's already told me my daughter should be raped, so sure, your welcome to "run to James" I'm sure I'll get booted here for it.jkpackfan said:Hey now I thought you didn't like people lobbing out insults?hokiewolf said:HE THINKS A EUROPEAN VAT IS A DISCRIMINATORY TAX AGAINST US IMPORTS. So you're as dumb as he is.Werewolf said:
He knows exactly. He does. Just like he understood Covid, the jabs, Ukraine, the 2024 election......yep, he knows.
Gobbler will be eating crow when the 2020 election reveal occurs.....just wrong again . Wrong all the time.
He's also the guy who removed all the red tape to get the "jabs" out to the public sooner. I guess that's ok in your weird world?
Maybe I should run to James.
Cthepack said:Civilized said:Cthepack said:When tariffs were first imposed you went on and on about how this will impact the consumer due to price increases. I think you brought up buying a truck. Now you are complaining that Trump is doing everything he can to force the companies to eat the tariffs and you seem upset about that. Which is it?hokiewolf said:
Central industrial planning is the tits.Here's the president of the U.S. telling a private company how it must make its products, on pain of seeing a massive, government-imposed increase in its input costs. I very rarely use the word "fascist," but this is unconstitutional, fascist nonsense. pic.twitter.com/h3Or89Feb5
— James Surowiecki (@JamesSurowiecki) May 23, 2025
It's both. Obviously.
Trump is implementing bad policy and then trying to coerce businesses to not act rationally and in the best interests of their shareholders and business.
He's wrong on both accounts.
How about not implementing tariffs that every economist in the world that's not sucking from Trump's teat agrees are taxes on consumers, and then the President won't have to try to cajole and shame businesses into not increasing prices in accordance with their newly increased costs that got jacked up because of his tariffs?
Every economist you say? So tell me what impact have they had? Inflation went down in the US, jobs went up. What has gone bad?
Do you really think prices will go down as supplier prices go up? How does that work exactly?
It's why we're having this conversation; WalMart just announced that very thing and Trump told them they need to magically absorb their higher costs.
It's why Target is forecasting slower sales and lower profits.
If Trump backs off tariffs then yeah that will mitigate some of this but that's the whole point; if tariffs stay, supply chain pricing goes up and subsequently retail prices are absolutely going up; there's no other way for that to work.
I don't go crying to mods, I can handle whatever you sling my way.hokiewolf said:Well, he's already told me my daughter should be raped, so sure, you're welcome to "run to James" I'm sure I'll get booted here for it.jkpackfan said:Hey now I thought you didn't like people lobbing out insults?hokiewolf said:HE THINKS A EUROPEAN VAT IS A DISCRIMINATORY TAX AGAINST US IMPORTS. So you're as dumb as he is.Werewolf said:
He knows exactly. He does. Just like he understood Covid, the jabs, Ukraine, the 2024 election......yep, he knows.
Gobbler will be eating crow when the 2020 election reveal occurs.....just wrong again . Wrong all the time.
He's also the guy who removed all the red tape to get the "jabs" out to the public sooner. I guess that's ok in your weird world?
Maybe I should run to James.
Lol, definitely a compliment coming from an intellectual giant like yourself.TheStorm said:Man, I don't know why y'all even waste your time responding to that idiot. Dude is the worst of the worst.jkpackfan said:Yep I sure do, I learned it all from Elon!!!SmaptyWolf said:He's definitely mastered pretty crisp Sieg Heils (complete with the boot stomp and stank face) on national TV that totally don't mean anything. I'm sure you whip those out for your boss all the time.jkpackfan said:Lmao yep Elon is a nazi, you got me.SmaptyWolf said:Yeah, I'm talking about RIGHT NOW.jkpackfan said:Reading obviously isn't your strong suit, I clearly said RIGHT NOW.SmaptyWolf said:Oh please. Literally every attack on a synagogue in the modern era has been perpetrated by either an Arab (usually Palestinian), or a right wing white supremacist spewing nonsense about the Great Replacement theory, you know, the one supposedly being orchestrated by Jews.jkpackfan said:There's a slight difference between two innocent people being slaughtered by an antisemitic madman and one to two posters on this board posting antisemitic views. Yes it's on both sides but your party has a huge problem with antisemitism right now, especially on almost every college campus. I applaud your continued whataboutism though.hokiewolf said:I would say the same to you. We have two posters who constantly post antisemitic views and none of you guys bat an eye.Gulfstream4 said:hokiewolf said:oh you mean Gulf just did? There is rampant antisemitism on the far left and far right. Jew hatred has no party affiliationTheStorm said:2 people total hokie.hokiewolf said:We can just look at our own pages of the water cooler to know that it isn't just democrats that spew antisemitism.Gulfstream4 said:
2 Israeli Embassy Aides Are Fatally Shot Outside Event in Washington
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/21/us/politics/israel-embassy-staffers-killed.html
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The never ending hateful rhetoric from democrats cost two innocent people their lives.
Don't try to lump everybody else here into that category...
It's right in front of you hokie, just open your eyes.
Here's the list, look for yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_on_Jewish_institutions
The "fine people" Trump was wink winking to a while back marched with tiki torches through Charlottesville chanting "Jews will not replace us!". The Proud Boys that Trump pardoned were all wearing "6 Million Wasn't Enough" shirts. And of course Elon and Trump still can't go a week without winking along to the replacement theory.
You guys have been swimming in anti-Semitic bile so long you can't even see it... campus protests mad at Israel for their specific actions (right or wrong) are quaint by comparison to your ever-present "enemy within" crap.
And the Proud Boys always have these laundry mishaps where they end up wearing shirts wishing more Jews had died in the holocaust. Thankfully Trump pardoned them so they have more time to figure our what's going on with their laundry.
Civilized said:Cthepack said:Civilized said:Cthepack said:When tariffs were first imposed you went on and on about how this will impact the consumer due to price increases. I think you brought up buying a truck. Now you are complaining that Trump is doing everything he can to force the companies to eat the tariffs and you seem upset about that. Which is it?hokiewolf said:
Central industrial planning is the tits.Here's the president of the U.S. telling a private company how it must make its products, on pain of seeing a massive, government-imposed increase in its input costs. I very rarely use the word "fascist," but this is unconstitutional, fascist nonsense. pic.twitter.com/h3Or89Feb5
— James Surowiecki (@JamesSurowiecki) May 23, 2025
It's both. Obviously.
Trump is implementing bad policy and then trying to coerce businesses to not act rationally and in the best interests of their shareholders and business.
He's wrong on both accounts.
How about not implementing tariffs that every economist in the world that's not sucking from Trump's teat agrees are taxes on consumers, and then the President won't have to try to cajole and shame businesses into not increasing prices in accordance with their newly increased costs that got jacked up because of his tariffs?
Every economist you say? So tell me what impact have they had? Inflation went down in the US, jobs went up. What has gone bad?
Do you really think prices will go down as supplier prices go up? How does that work exactly?
It's why we're having this conversation; WalMart just announced that very thing and Trump told them they need to magically absorb their higher costs.
It's why Target is forecasting slower sales and lower profits.
If Trump backs off tariffs then yeah that will mitigate some of this but that's the whole point; if tariffs stay, supply chain pricing goes up and subsequently retail prices are absolutely going up; there's no other way for that to work.
There is a third variable in the equation.
Tell me with data please what has gotten worse?
You have demonstrated time and time again you know nothing about manufacturing.
But besides that do tell us all when this cast system will be in place. Since you know exactly what will happen.
You are sounding more and more like the conspiracy guys on here.
But besides that do tell us all when this cast system will be in place. Since you know exactly what will happen.
You are sounding more and more like the conspiracy guys on here.
Please, enlighten me on how manufacturing works.Cthepack said:
You have demonstrated time and time again you know nothing about manufacturing.
But besides that do tell us all when this cast system will be in place. Since you know exactly what will happen.
You are sounding more and more like the conspiracy guys on here.
It will happen when you move more manufacturing to the US, which will cause production for current manufacturing to fall because domestic resources are finite. If you reshore manufacturing of some goods and services, you'll produce less of other goods and services. Combine that will all the costs to move that manufacturing to the US without any of the resources currently here, will increase prices for those goods.
This is especially an issue when we're also actively ejecting those resources from the country, particularly the law-abiding folks. There is zero appetite to provide a system of LEGAL means to assimilate into the US and into the manufacturing workforce.
I don't either, but you aren't subject to a stalker and constant insults. I do appreciate your willingness to discuss topics reasonably. Same goes for Cthepack.jkpackfan said:I don't go crying to mods, I can handle whatever you sling my way.hokiewolf said:Well, he's already told me my daughter should be raped, so sure, you're welcome to "run to James" I'm sure I'll get booted here for it.jkpackfan said:Hey now I thought you didn't like people lobbing out insults?hokiewolf said:HE THINKS A EUROPEAN VAT IS A DISCRIMINATORY TAX AGAINST US IMPORTS. So you're as dumb as he is.Werewolf said:
He knows exactly. He does. Just like he understood Covid, the jabs, Ukraine, the 2024 election......yep, he knows.
Gobbler will be eating crow when the 2020 election reveal occurs.....just wrong again . Wrong all the time.
He's also the guy who removed all the red tape to get the "jabs" out to the public sooner. I guess that's ok in your weird world?
Maybe I should run to James.
#Sieve, #Gobbler and #Nappy will insist nothing to see here........but, oh, Trump is doing everything wrong!!!!
HOLY CR*P 🚨 Democrats laundered SO MUCH MONEY before Donald Trump took office
— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) May 23, 2025
In the 76 day period between Trump winning and Biden leaving office $93 billion was sent from the DOE, who GAVE IT AWAY WITH NO OVERSIGHT, TO ENTITIES WITH NO FINANCIALS
“The 76-day period you're… pic.twitter.com/onZaRkPNRn
hokiewolf said:Please, enlighten me on how manufacturing works.Cthepack said:
You have demonstrated time and time again you know nothing about manufacturing.
But besides that do tell us all when this cast system will be in place. Since you know exactly what will happen.
You are sounding more and more like the conspiracy guys on here.
It will happen when you move more manufacturing to the US, which will cause production for current manufacturing to fall because domestic resources are finite. If you reshore manufacturing of some goods and services, you'll produce less of other goods and services. Combine that will all the costs to move that manufacturing to the US without any of the resources currently here, will increase prices for those goods.
This is especially an issue when we're also actively ejecting those resources from the country, particularly the law-abiding folks. There is zero appetite to provide a system of LEGAL means to assimilate into the US and into the manufacturing workforce.
Oh manufacturing is a zero sum game then. I noticed the lack of understanding when you were stating they are low cost low tech jobs.
Now I am not sure you even understand the consept of gdp.
but he insists he does ....he's as smart as #Napp, so he says
when your resources (labor) are finite, yesCthepack said:hokiewolf said:Please, enlighten me on how manufacturing works.Cthepack said:
You have demonstrated time and time again you know nothing about manufacturing.
But besides that do tell us all when this cast system will be in place. Since you know exactly what will happen.
You are sounding more and more like the conspiracy guys on here.
It will happen when you move more manufacturing to the US, which will cause production for current manufacturing to fall because domestic resources are finite. If you reshore manufacturing of some goods and services, you'll produce less of other goods and services. Combine that will all the costs to move that manufacturing to the US without any of the resources currently here, will increase prices for those goods.
This is especially an issue when we're also actively ejecting those resources from the country, particularly the law-abiding folks. There is zero appetite to provide a system of LEGAL means to assimilate into the US and into the manufacturing workforce.
Oh manufacturing is a zero sum game then. I noticed the lack of understanding when you were stating they are low cost low tech jobs.
Now I am not sure you even understand the consept of gdp.
Cthepack said:hokiewolf said:Please, enlighten me on how manufacturing works.Cthepack said:
You have demonstrated time and time again you know nothing about manufacturing.
But besides that do tell us all when this cast system will be in place. Since you know exactly what will happen.
You are sounding more and more like the conspiracy guys on here.
It will happen when you move more manufacturing to the US, which will cause production for current manufacturing to fall because domestic resources are finite. If you reshore manufacturing of some goods and services, you'll produce less of other goods and services. Combine that will all the costs to move that manufacturing to the US without any of the resources currently here, will increase prices for those goods.
This is especially an issue when we're also actively ejecting those resources from the country, particularly the law-abiding folks. There is zero appetite to provide a system of LEGAL means to assimilate into the US and into the manufacturing workforce.
Oh manufacturing is a zero sum game then. I noticed the lack of understanding when you were stating they are low cost low tech jobs.
Now I am not sure you even understand the consept of gdp.
ETA: just this week I worked with a recently PE purchased manufacturing site ( I wanted smappy to know it was PE work). We increased the output of one of their lines by 60% with the same resources. The point is they can run a higher demand with no impact to your theory that they need to hire more. They do not.
The capitalist side of me suggests I just created more capacity which means I can produce more - supply- so with more supply prices may actually reduce not increase. Old supply and demand model. So these are reasons I say you know nothing about manufacturing.
See above post. Real world I just did it this week.
#Gobbler, #Sieve and #Nappy don't think there's anything to see here.....and they''ll insist Trump is a grifter here to take advantage of his position. Three sorry-ass examples of American citizens. Call it what it tis.....
BUCKLE UP FOR THIS ONE!
— Joe_S_Pure🩸 (@Joe_S_Pure) March 14, 2025
Has anyone been paying attention to this whopper? John Podesta. a senior advisor to Joe Biden on clean energy, former White House Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton (1998–2001) and Counselor to President Barack Obama (2014–2015, has been handling a… pic.twitter.com/yYXU9Y44vF
thank you for your example, but it doesn't refute my points at all.Cthepack said:Cthepack said:hokiewolf said:Please, enlighten me on how manufacturing works.Cthepack said:
You have demonstrated time and time again you know nothing about manufacturing.
But besides that do tell us all when this cast system will be in place. Since you know exactly what will happen.
You are sounding more and more like the conspiracy guys on here.
It will happen when you move more manufacturing to the US, which will cause production for current manufacturing to fall because domestic resources are finite. If you reshore manufacturing of some goods and services, you'll produce less of other goods and services. Combine that will all the costs to move that manufacturing to the US without any of the resources currently here, will increase prices for those goods.
This is especially an issue when we're also actively ejecting those resources from the country, particularly the law-abiding folks. There is zero appetite to provide a system of LEGAL means to assimilate into the US and into the manufacturing workforce.
Oh manufacturing is a zero sum game then. I noticed the lack of understanding when you were stating they are low cost low tech jobs.
Now I am not sure you even understand the consept of gdp.
ETA: just this week I worked with a recently PE purchased manufacturing site ( I wanted smappy to know it was PE work). We increased the output of one of their lines by 60% with the same resources. The point is they can run a higher demand with no impact to your theory that they need to hire more. They do not.
The capitalist side of me suggests I just created more capacity which means I can produce more - supply- so with more supply prices may actually reduce not increase. Old supply and demand model. So these are reasons I say you know nothing about manufacturing.
#Gobbler exposed once again... hitting for the cycle, K,K and K....it's known as #daGobbler Cycle.
hokiewolf said:thank you for your example, but it doesn't refute my points at all.Cthepack said:Cthepack said:hokiewolf said:Please, enlighten me on how manufacturing works.Cthepack said:
You have demonstrated time and time again you know nothing about manufacturing.
But besides that do tell us all when this cast system will be in place. Since you know exactly what will happen.
You are sounding more and more like the conspiracy guys on here.
It will happen when you move more manufacturing to the US, which will cause production for current manufacturing to fall because domestic resources are finite. If you reshore manufacturing of some goods and services, you'll produce less of other goods and services. Combine that will all the costs to move that manufacturing to the US without any of the resources currently here, will increase prices for those goods.
This is especially an issue when we're also actively ejecting those resources from the country, particularly the law-abiding folks. There is zero appetite to provide a system of LEGAL means to assimilate into the US and into the manufacturing workforce.
Oh manufacturing is a zero sum game then. I noticed the lack of understanding when you were stating they are low cost low tech jobs.
Now I am not sure you even understand the consept of gdp.
ETA: just this week I worked with a recently PE purchased manufacturing site ( I wanted smappy to know it was PE work). We increased the output of one of their lines by 60% with the same resources. The point is they can run a higher demand with no impact to your theory that they need to hire more. They do not.
The capitalist side of me suggests I just created more capacity which means I can produce more - supply- so with more supply prices may actually reduce not increase. Old supply and demand model. So these are reasons I say you know nothing about manufacturing.
Do explain how you say you have finite labor so increasing a companies demand (bringing things from overseas to the US) you say they need to hire more people. That is what you said right? I am saying they do not. So you can increase demand but do not have to increase your resources. Meaning it is not a zero sum (labor) system as you said it was.
It is improving the 3rd variable I keep telling you, civ, smappy about.
So my example shows you that labour is not a zero sum system.
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