TRUMP 2024

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packgrad
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More pennies in the couch at another agency. Pennies upon pennies everywhere. So corrupt.

caryking
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hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

It's the Untouchables!
Hoping the Border Patrol puts those IRS agents on the front lines.

Trump is such a #grifter, right? You are wrong once again. ;-)
no no, he's still a grifter. I've got a USA Bible to prove it
You just keep on believing it and saying so............and we pour buckets of tar on your head. You just need to tell us the color of the feathers, my man.
Chicago Maroon and Burnt Orange.
Hokie, you're post makes you look more like Smapty than a person that's a conservative…
Werewolf
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caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

It's the Untouchables!
Hoping the Border Patrol puts those IRS agents on the front lines.

Trump is such a #grifter, right? You are wrong once again. ;-)
no no, he's still a grifter. I've got a USA Bible to prove it
You just keep on believing it and saying so............and we pour buckets of tar on your head. You just need to tell us the color of the feathers, my man.
Chicago Maroon and Burnt Orange.
Hokie, you're post makes you look more like Smapty than a person that's a conservative…
He's not conservative. My God, how much more do you need to see? OK, you met him and you like him.....good for you. But don't try to paint him what he's not.

#Gobbler is closer to #Sieve and #Nappy than #MAGA. He's just another version of a #Useful-Idiot.
Civilized
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You guys are wild, man.

What stances specifically does Hokie have that are incongruous with a conservative agenda?
caryking
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Werewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

It's the Untouchables!
Hoping the Border Patrol puts those IRS agents on the front lines.

Trump is such a #grifter, right? You are wrong once again. ;-)
no no, he's still a grifter. I've got a USA Bible to prove it
You just keep on believing it and saying so............and we pour buckets of tar on your head. You just need to tell us the color of the feathers, my man.
Chicago Maroon and Burnt Orange.
Hokie, you're post makes you look more like Smapty than a person that's a conservative…
He's not conservative. My God, how much more do you need to see? OK, you met him and you like him.....good for you. But don't try to paint him what he's not.

#Gobbler is closer to #Sieve and #Nappy than #MAGA. He's just another version of a #Useful-Idiot.
Were, I think he has far more conservative leanings, than not. He really just doesn't like Trump. Actually, I think he's so dug into his disdain, for Trump, he loses some rational thought.

We really only have one person, in here, that is an absolute joke. Others, well… learn how to accept them for who they are. You don't have to agree with them at.
Werewolf
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Civilized said:

You guys are wild, man.

What stances specifically does Hokie have that are incongruous with a conservative agenda?
#SIeve, it's a T buddy, a T. There's many more T's coming, bud.

Honestly, I don't think this news even phases you.

caryking
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Civilized said:

You guys are wild, man.

What stances specifically does Hokie have that are incongruous with a conservative agenda?
I don't really know any. Other than tactics, on how to solve issue, I really don't have any…. I like what Trump is doing, with the use of DOGE, I think Hokie finds it small potatoes. I, on the other hand, think it's smart to work on anything and everything.

Now, the truth is, I don't think any of this DOGE work will ever get codified in the budget. The Republicans are far too feckless to make the changes come true…
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caryking said:

Werewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

It's the Untouchables!
Hoping the Border Patrol puts those IRS agents on the front lines.

Trump is such a #grifter, right? You are wrong once again. ;-)
no no, he's still a grifter. I've got a USA Bible to prove it
You just keep on believing it and saying so............and we pour buckets of tar on your head. You just need to tell us the color of the feathers, my man.
Chicago Maroon and Burnt Orange.
Hokie, you're post makes you look more like Smapty than a person that's a conservative…
He's not conservative. My God, how much more do you need to see? OK, you met him and you like him.....good for you. But don't try to paint him what he's not.

#Gobbler is closer to #Sieve and #Nappy than #MAGA. He's just another version of a #Useful-Idiot.
Were, I think he has far more conservative leanings, than not. He really just doesn't like Trump. Actually, I think he's so dug into his disdain, for Trump, he loses some rational thought.

We really only have one person, in here, that is an absolute joke. Others, well… learn how to accept them for who they are. You don't have to agree with them at.
I'll agree he has conservative tendencies that #Sieve and certainly #Nappy don't. He's been brainwashed by the Mockingbird Media such that he's a variation of the typical Marxist #UsefulIdiot.

And I will agree that it would be difficult to continue to chide someone that you have met and like when they can't come around to reality.
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Werewolf
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#Sieve, serious question.

Q: Would #Pocahontas be one of your top dozen FAV US Senators, policy-wise?

#SIeve, looks like BernieBro's got her beat. Isn't that amusing.......Bernie Bro's guy receives the largest Big Pharma donors.........?

packgrad
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But Trump and Elon...


Werewolf
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#actors #conmen
caryking
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Werewolf said:

caryking said:

Werewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

It's the Untouchables!
Hoping the Border Patrol puts those IRS agents on the front lines.

Trump is such a #grifter, right? You are wrong once again. ;-)
no no, he's still a grifter. I've got a USA Bible to prove it
You just keep on believing it and saying so............and we pour buckets of tar on your head. You just need to tell us the color of the feathers, my man.
Chicago Maroon and Burnt Orange.
Hokie, you're post makes you look more like Smapty than a person that's a conservative…
He's not conservative. My God, how much more do you need to see? OK, you met him and you like him.....good for you. But don't try to paint him what he's not.

#Gobbler is closer to #Sieve and #Nappy than #MAGA. He's just another version of a #Useful-Idiot.
Were, I think he has far more conservative leanings, than not. He really just doesn't like Trump. Actually, I think he's so dug into his disdain, for Trump, he loses some rational thought.

We really only have one person, in here, that is an absolute joke. Others, well… learn how to accept them for who they are. You don't have to agree with them at.
I'll agree he has conservative tendencies that #Sieve and certainly #Nappy don't. He's been brainwashed by the Mockingbird Media such that he's a variation of the typical Marxist #UsefulIdiot.

And I will agree that it would be difficult to continue to chide someone that you have met and like when they can't come around to reality.
Were, well… that's a start. Perhaps, Hokie has been brainwashed or he just has different views. Regarding me knowing Hokie, I don't think that's a fair assertion…. Civ and I have very little to absolutely no common views; however, I don't treat him any different than I do you or Hokie. That actually speaks about my ability to treat people fairly. Ok, ok, Smapty is on a different level..

All I'm saying is…. Just because Hokie and you have some different views doesn't make him the boogie man. Think about this.. we have plenty of people that think you are the boogie man with the number of post you make without any context. Sometimes you say, (I paraphrase) I post the stuff, but don't always read it.. really? Why do you really think that adds value? Does that make you the real boogie man here?

I have repeatedly warned you about the number (I call it gumming it up) post you make. I also say that you have some good post that add value. The problem with you…. I question your ability to discern the good from the bad.

So, you can make this about me, all you want; however, I encourage you to have some self-reflection…
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It's not about you. I'm actually attempting to give you a pass on #Gobbler. It would be hard to ride somebodies a$$ if you know them outside of this forum.........at least ride his a$$ like it deserves to be.

And just to make myself clear on my content. My content is generally attempting to "show the receipts" but I do also make cryptic posts hoping to generate some level of independent thinking. I appreciate the forum here been and I try to play within the rules.

Do I investigate all that I post, He$$ NO. What source is the arbiter of truth is this crazy world we now find ourselves in? The New York Times, my a$$.

Neither you, nor I, are the moderators or monitors of this forum and I'll post as I see fit within the rules. I have started other threads - such as the Q thread - to appease you and others. Let's see how that one turns out ;-) It is irritating to have someone on the same side taking shots at you. Remind me to not be caught on the battlefield with you.....you might bushwack me, thinking I'm too aggressive, LOL. Or I'm taking too many shots in the game and you're not getting enough touches to dribble around.
packgrad
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Yet again, results... Thoughts/prayers.

Civilized
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packgrad said:

But Trump and Elon...


EXACTLY. Great analogy but good Lord what a terrible comparison for Trump and Musk.

Bill Clinton balanced the budget by raising taxes on the rich and on corporations, without deleting any key, high-ROI institutions, and by taking a bipartisan approach to controlling expenses on major government programs like welfare.

That is the absolute antithesis of what Trump and Musk are doing.

So why exactly are we completely axing worthwhile pursuits like the CFPB and USAID? Clinton created the roadmap. Trump and Musk aren't following it.

How exactly is President Musk going to balance the budget by cutting taxes $4.5T for corporations and his rich buddies over the next decade?
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Werewolf said:

It's not about you. I'm actually attempting to give you a pass on #Gobbler. It would be hard to ride somebodies a$$ if you know them outside of this forum.........at least ride his a$$ like it deserves to be.

Were, that very statement, I've quoted of yours, speaks a very different message. You're not giving me a pass (not that I need one); rather, it appears as if you're trying to feel sorry for me, or something...

Hokie here's it from me, no differently than anyone else, if I disagree with them.

Also, what does riding his ass really mean?
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caryking said:

Werewolf said:

It's not about you. I'm actually attempting to give you a pass on #Gobbler. It would be hard to ride somebodies a$$ if you know them outside of this forum.........at least ride his a$$ like it deserves to be.

Were, that very statement, I've quoted of yours, speaks a very different message. You're not giving me a pass (not that I need one); rather, it appears as if you're trying to feel sorry for me, or something...

Hokie here's it from me, no differently than anyone else, if I disagree with them.

Also, what does riding his ass really mean?
I am agreeing that it's much easier to "ride somebody's ass" if you don't know them.......like for most of us here.

Consistent with my point, I happen to like #Sieve. I think he's a really good dude.......but badly brainwashed. I go light on #daSieve. Lighter than #packpride for sure, LOL.
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Werewolf said:

If you'll look closely in this pic, you'll see #Sieve, #Nappy & #Gobbler in the back.

Mental Health Experts See Massive Increase In "Despair And Burn Out" Among Democrats | Steve Watson, Modernity

Leftist outlet Axios has published an article claiming that mental health experts are seeing a huge increase in patients who are Democrat voters complaining of "despair and burn out" in the wake of President Trump winning the election and taking office for the second time.

The piece claims that the worn out whiners are whinging about not being able to keep up with the pace of Trump's "rapid fire policies."

The article notes "Mental health professionals say even people who don't see themselves as directly affected by administration actions are feeling frazzled by the dizzying pace and Trump's enduring ability to command attention."

"They may feel it through the venting of a spouse, the distress of a neighbor with a trans child or an anxious friend who works for a government contractor," it hilariously adds.

The piece further states that Andrea Bonior, a Georgetown University psychology professor "said she's seen an uptick in patients, particularly Democrats, expressing a sense of burnout, guilt and despair at losing an old way of life."

It adds that "Bonior pointed to federal workers who aren't sure if they'll be let go as well as others concerned about their immigration status or worried about loved ones whose refugee flights were canceled."

"It feels, no matter which way you go, you're like, 'Oh, my God, I'm being ruled by a very different system that I thought I was living in,'" New York-based neuropsychologist Sanam Hafeez told Axios.

Yes.

Won't someone think of the bureaucratic federal workers and the illegal immigrants who now face "uncertainty" because borders and limits on government spending have been restored.

The world's smallest violin is playing for them.

Perhaps these despairing Democrats need to hold some more group crying sessions and go 'forest bathing.'

Pollster Mark Halperin previously predicted that America will experience the biggest mental health crisis in its history during a second Trump term.

Halperin urged that Trump has been so demonised for years that for tens of millions of Americans, Trump now becoming President again is "so traumatic" that it will become "impossible for even the most mentally healthy person to truly process and incorporate in the daily life."

"They think that their fellow citizens supporting Trump is a sign of fundamental evil at the heart of their fellow citizens and of the nation," concluded Halperin.


Liberalism is a disease
packgrad
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

But Trump and Elon...


EXACTLY. Great analogy but good Lord what a terrible comparison for Trump and Musk.

Bill Clinton balanced the budget by raising taxes on the rich and on corporations, without deleting any key, high-ROI institutions, and by taking a bipartisan approach to controlling expenses on major government programs like welfare.

That is the absolute antithesis of what Trump and Musk are doing.

So why exactly are we completely axing worthwhile pursuits like the CFPB and USAID? Clinton created the roadmap. Trump and Musk aren't following it.

How exactly is President Musk going to balance the budget by cutting taxes $4.5T for corporations and his rich buddies over the next decade?



Bwahahahah. President Musk. You're such a clown "weird American's daddy" guy. Bipartisan efforts are a thing of the past. Too many are mentally ill like you. Your party leadership understands there is no benefit to their power grab to try to work together with Trump for bipartisan solutions. They can just say things like the billions of waste already found in 3 weeks are Pennies in the couch and mindless minions like you will hyperventilate in repeating it over and over.
Republicans have always efforted for bipartisan solutions with Dems. That has not been reciprocated. Republicans should continue to wisen up and govern with the mandate they were given and stop trying to search for bipartisan solutions with a party with historically poor ratings. I doubt they will, but I can hope.

I also love how you pretend to have ANY knowledge on what the ROI is for USAID or CFPB. Lol.
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packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

But Trump and Elon...


EXACTLY. Great analogy but good Lord what a terrible comparison for Trump and Musk.

Bill Clinton balanced the budget by raising taxes on the rich and on corporations, without deleting any key, high-ROI institutions, and by taking a bipartisan approach to controlling expenses on major government programs like welfare.

That is the absolute antithesis of what Trump and Musk are doing.

So why exactly are we completely axing worthwhile pursuits like the CFPB and USAID? Clinton created the roadmap. Trump and Musk aren't following it.

How exactly is President Musk going to balance the budget by cutting taxes $4.5T for corporations and his rich buddies over the next decade?



Bwahahahah. President Musk. You're such a clown "weird American's daddy" guy. Bipartisan efforts are a thing of the past. Too many are mentally ill like you. Your party leadership understands there is no benefit to their power grab to try to work together with Trump for bipartisan solutions. They can just say things like the billions of waste already found in 3 weeks are Pennies in the couch and mindless minions like you will hyperventilate in repeating it over and over.
Republicans have always efforted for bipartisan solutions with Dems. That has not been reciprocated. Republicans should continue to wisen up and govern with the mandate they were given and stop trying to search for bipartisan solutions with a party with historically poor ratings. I doubt they will, but I can hope.

I also love how you pretend to have ANY knowledge on what the ROI is for USAID or CFPB. Lol.

So you agree Trump and Musk's approach has nothing in common with Clinton's.

Got it.
packgrad
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

But Trump and Elon...


EXACTLY. Great analogy but good Lord what a terrible comparison for Trump and Musk.

Bill Clinton balanced the budget by raising taxes on the rich and on corporations, without deleting any key, high-ROI institutions, and by taking a bipartisan approach to controlling expenses on major government programs like welfare.

That is the absolute antithesis of what Trump and Musk are doing.

So why exactly are we completely axing worthwhile pursuits like the CFPB and USAID? Clinton created the roadmap. Trump and Musk aren't following it.

How exactly is President Musk going to balance the budget by cutting taxes $4.5T for corporations and his rich buddies over the next decade?



Bwahahahah. President Musk. You're such a clown "weird American's daddy" guy. Bipartisan efforts are a thing of the past. Too many are mentally ill like you. Your party leadership understands there is no benefit to their power grab to try to work together with Trump for bipartisan solutions. They can just say things like the billions of waste already found in 3 weeks are Pennies in the couch and mindless minions like you will hyperventilate in repeating it over and over.
Republicans have always efforted for bipartisan solutions with Dems. That has not been reciprocated. Republicans should continue to wisen up and govern with the mandate they were given and stop trying to search for bipartisan solutions with a party with historically poor ratings. I doubt they will, but I can hope.

I also love how you pretend to have ANY knowledge on what the ROI is for USAID or CFPB. Lol.

So you agree Trump and Musk's approach has nothing in common with Clinton's.

Got it.


Again, that's just stupid, head in the sand, derangement because Trump/Elon. "Nothing in common" lol.
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packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

But Trump and Elon...


EXACTLY. Great analogy but good Lord what a terrible comparison for Trump and Musk.

Bill Clinton balanced the budget by raising taxes on the rich and on corporations, without deleting any key, high-ROI institutions, and by taking a bipartisan approach to controlling expenses on major government programs like welfare.

That is the absolute antithesis of what Trump and Musk are doing.

So why exactly are we completely axing worthwhile pursuits like the CFPB and USAID? Clinton created the roadmap. Trump and Musk aren't following it.

How exactly is President Musk going to balance the budget by cutting taxes $4.5T for corporations and his rich buddies over the next decade?



Bwahahahah. President Musk. You're such a clown "weird American's daddy" guy. Bipartisan efforts are a thing of the past. Too many are mentally ill like you. Your party leadership understands there is no benefit to their power grab to try to work together with Trump for bipartisan solutions. They can just say things like the billions of waste already found in 3 weeks are Pennies in the couch and mindless minions like you will hyperventilate in repeating it over and over.
Republicans have always efforted for bipartisan solutions with Dems. That has not been reciprocated. Republicans should continue to wisen up and govern with the mandate they were given and stop trying to search for bipartisan solutions with a party with historically poor ratings. I doubt they will, but I can hope.

I also love how you pretend to have ANY knowledge on what the ROI is for USAID or CFPB. Lol.

So you agree Trump and Musk's approach has nothing in common with Clinton's.

Got it.


Again, that's just stupid, head in the sand, derangement because Trump/Elon. "Nothing in common" lol.

No it's just obvious logic.

The backbone of Clinton's plan was raising taxes on the rich and corporations. Start there. That is night-and-day from Trump's plan to cut taxes on the rich and corporations.

Clinton raised direct revenue significantly while fostering economic growth, which further grew revenue. Trump is proposing to cut direct federal government revenue (taxes) and implement tariffs which carry the obvious risk of shrinking or stagnating the economy (even less revenue).

Clinton also took a bipartisan approach to cut cost from massive government programs while avoiding the unnecessary chaos that Trump and Musk are creating by immediately deleting entire small departments.

It's obvious how they're extraordinarily different.

In what meaningful ways do you think they're similar?
packgrad
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

But Trump and Elon...


EXACTLY. Great analogy but good Lord what a terrible comparison for Trump and Musk.

Bill Clinton balanced the budget by raising taxes on the rich and on corporations, without deleting any key, high-ROI institutions, and by taking a bipartisan approach to controlling expenses on major government programs like welfare.

That is the absolute antithesis of what Trump and Musk are doing.

So why exactly are we completely axing worthwhile pursuits like the CFPB and USAID? Clinton created the roadmap. Trump and Musk aren't following it.

How exactly is President Musk going to balance the budget by cutting taxes $4.5T for corporations and his rich buddies over the next decade?



Bwahahahah. President Musk. You're such a clown "weird American's daddy" guy. Bipartisan efforts are a thing of the past. Too many are mentally ill like you. Your party leadership understands there is no benefit to their power grab to try to work together with Trump for bipartisan solutions. They can just say things like the billions of waste already found in 3 weeks are Pennies in the couch and mindless minions like you will hyperventilate in repeating it over and over.
Republicans have always efforted for bipartisan solutions with Dems. That has not been reciprocated. Republicans should continue to wisen up and govern with the mandate they were given and stop trying to search for bipartisan solutions with a party with historically poor ratings. I doubt they will, but I can hope.

I also love how you pretend to have ANY knowledge on what the ROI is for USAID or CFPB. Lol.

So you agree Trump and Musk's approach has nothing in common with Clinton's.

Got it.


Again, that's just stupid, head in the sand, derangement because Trump/Elon. "Nothing in common" lol.

No it's just obvious logic.

The backbone of Clinton's plan was raising taxes on the rich and corporations. Start there. That is night-and-day from Trump's plan to cut taxes on the rich and corporations.

Clinton raised direct revenue significantly while fostering economic growth, which further grew revenue. Trump is proposing to cut direct federal government revenue (taxes) and implement tariffs which carry the obvious risk of shrinking or stagnating the economy (even less revenue).

Clinton also took a bipartisan approach to cut cost from massive government programs while avoiding the unnecessary chaos that Trump and Musk are creating by immediately deleting entire small departments.

It's obvious how they're extraordinarily different.

In what meaningful ways do you think they're similar?

You choose willful ignorance. I'm sorry that your derangement doesn't allow you to watch the clip that was referenced. If you want to continue to be a deranged nutjob that says there is nothing in common between the objectives announced by Clinton and Obama with the objectives Trump has announced, please continue to do so. I don't have time for your derangement this morning.

Your "obvious logic" is obvious "chosen ignorance".

And lol at bipartisanship. Have you seen your party's behavior the last 3 weeks? Calls for violence, calls for war, gay 60s era protest songs, calls for reparations, California residents voting to secede (LOL!).... you are not a serious party. I hope we continue to push you aside and your party continues to show their true colors so more people move to the right.
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#Sieve, #Nappy & #Gobbler; did you benefit from any of this $2.7 T?

Do you care? Or do you ignore it because it doesn't fit the Mockingbird Media's narrative that Trump is a grifter?


packgrad
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I think I'm starting to understand where civ was coming from when he spoke of the huge ROI from USAID. I'm sure a leftist would think that after hearing this.

caryking
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

But Trump and Elon...


EXACTLY. Great analogy but good Lord what a terrible comparison for Trump and Musk.

Bill Clinton balanced the budget by raising taxes on the rich and on corporations, without deleting any key, high-ROI institutions, and by taking a bipartisan approach to controlling expenses on major government programs like welfare.

That is the absolute antithesis of what Trump and Musk are doing.

So why exactly are we completely axing worthwhile pursuits like the CFPB and USAID? Clinton created the roadmap. Trump and Musk aren't following it.

How exactly is President Musk going to balance the budget by cutting taxes $4.5T for corporations and his rich buddies over the next decade?



Bwahahahah. President Musk. You're such a clown "weird American's daddy" guy. Bipartisan efforts are a thing of the past. Too many are mentally ill like you. Your party leadership understands there is no benefit to their power grab to try to work together with Trump for bipartisan solutions. They can just say things like the billions of waste already found in 3 weeks are Pennies in the couch and mindless minions like you will hyperventilate in repeating it over and over.
Republicans have always efforted for bipartisan solutions with Dems. That has not been reciprocated. Republicans should continue to wisen up and govern with the mandate they were given and stop trying to search for bipartisan solutions with a party with historically poor ratings. I doubt they will, but I can hope.

I also love how you pretend to have ANY knowledge on what the ROI is for USAID or CFPB. Lol.

So you agree Trump and Musk's approach has nothing in common with Clinton's.

Got it.


Again, that's just stupid, head in the sand, derangement because Trump/Elon. "Nothing in common" lol.

No it's just obvious logic.

The backbone of Clinton's plan was raising taxes on the rich and corporations. Start there. That is night-and-day from Trump's plan to cut taxes on the rich and corporations.

Clinton raised direct revenue significantly while fostering economic growth, which further grew revenue. Trump is proposing to cut direct federal government revenue (taxes) and implement tariffs which carry the obvious risk of shrinking or stagnating the economy (even less revenue).

Clinton also took a bipartisan approach to cut cost from massive government programs while avoiding the unnecessary chaos that Trump and Musk are creating by immediately deleting entire small departments.

It's obvious how they're extraordinarily different.

In what meaningful ways do you think they're similar?

Civ, I'm not keeping up with this entire back and forth…. That said, as we keep talking about tax programs, let's not forget that massive change in taxes, with the last plan. That Trump tax plan eliminated the deduction of State taxes. So, everyone's taxes could have gone up, except for the offset deductions.

People, that are in the higher income bracket, actually saw a slight increase in their taxes. I know it cost me more. So, I'm a huge believer in the aspect, of the tax plan, as it cost tax payers, of a given State, more, if a State has high taxes.

Unfortunately, I'm hearing that is on the chopping block, for the new tax plan…

One more thing… help me understand how tariffs are anymore of a tax on the people, than taxes (bolded above) a business directly?
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Historic moment…

RFK Jr is your HHS Secretary! I find it absolutely fascinating that multiple Democrats have recognized this real fight we have. The Elites are losing!
packgrad
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caryking said:

Historic moment…

RFK Jr is your HHS Secretary! I find it absolutely fascinating that multiple Democrats have recognized this real fight we have. The Elites are losing!


Large.
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Watch Hysterical, Unhinged Dems Cursing and Singing About Trump and Elon Musk


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LOLOLOL at the democrat party. These people are flat out lunatics!
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caryking said:

Historic moment…

RFK Jr is your HHS Secretary! I find it absolutely fascinating that multiple Democrats have recognized this real fight we have. The Elites are losing!


Nice
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Civilized
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

But Trump and Elon...


EXACTLY. Great analogy but good Lord what a terrible comparison for Trump and Musk.

Bill Clinton balanced the budget by raising taxes on the rich and on corporations, without deleting any key, high-ROI institutions, and by taking a bipartisan approach to controlling expenses on major government programs like welfare.

That is the absolute antithesis of what Trump and Musk are doing.

So why exactly are we completely axing worthwhile pursuits like the CFPB and USAID? Clinton created the roadmap. Trump and Musk aren't following it.

How exactly is President Musk going to balance the budget by cutting taxes $4.5T for corporations and his rich buddies over the next decade?



Bwahahahah. President Musk. You're such a clown "weird American's daddy" guy. Bipartisan efforts are a thing of the past. Too many are mentally ill like you. Your party leadership understands there is no benefit to their power grab to try to work together with Trump for bipartisan solutions. They can just say things like the billions of waste already found in 3 weeks are Pennies in the couch and mindless minions like you will hyperventilate in repeating it over and over.
Republicans have always efforted for bipartisan solutions with Dems. That has not been reciprocated. Republicans should continue to wisen up and govern with the mandate they were given and stop trying to search for bipartisan solutions with a party with historically poor ratings. I doubt they will, but I can hope.

I also love how you pretend to have ANY knowledge on what the ROI is for USAID or CFPB. Lol.

So you agree Trump and Musk's approach has nothing in common with Clinton's.

Got it.


Again, that's just stupid, head in the sand, derangement because Trump/Elon. "Nothing in common" lol.

No it's just obvious logic.

The backbone of Clinton's plan was raising taxes on the rich and corporations. Start there. That is night-and-day from Trump's plan to cut taxes on the rich and corporations.

Clinton raised direct revenue significantly while fostering economic growth, which further grew revenue. Trump is proposing to cut direct federal government revenue (taxes) and implement tariffs which carry the obvious risk of shrinking or stagnating the economy (even less revenue).

Clinton also took a bipartisan approach to cut cost from massive government programs while avoiding the unnecessary chaos that Trump and Musk are creating by immediately deleting entire small departments.

It's obvious how they're extraordinarily different.

In what meaningful ways do you think they're similar?

Civ, I'm not keeping up with this entire back and forth…. That said, as we keep talking about tax programs, let's not forget that massive change in taxes, with the last plan. That Trump tax plan eliminated the deduction of State taxes. So, everyone's taxes could have gone up, except for the offset deductions.

People, that are in the higher income bracket, actually saw a slight increase in their taxes. I know it cost me more. So, I'm a huge believer in the aspect, of the tax plan, as it cost tax payers, of a given State, more, if a State has high taxes.

Unfortunately, I'm hearing that is on the chopping block, for the new tax plan…

One more thing… help me understand how tariffs are anymore of a tax on the people, than taxes (bolded above) a business directly?

Tariffs are quite regressive.

Appropriately taxing higher income brackets and corporations is quite progressive.
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

But Trump and Elon...


EXACTLY. Great analogy but good Lord what a terrible comparison for Trump and Musk.

Bill Clinton balanced the budget by raising taxes on the rich and on corporations, without deleting any key, high-ROI institutions, and by taking a bipartisan approach to controlling expenses on major government programs like welfare.

That is the absolute antithesis of what Trump and Musk are doing.

So why exactly are we completely axing worthwhile pursuits like the CFPB and USAID? Clinton created the roadmap. Trump and Musk aren't following it.

How exactly is President Musk going to balance the budget by cutting taxes $4.5T for corporations and his rich buddies over the next decade?



Bwahahahah. President Musk. You're such a clown "weird American's daddy" guy. Bipartisan efforts are a thing of the past. Too many are mentally ill like you. Your party leadership understands there is no benefit to their power grab to try to work together with Trump for bipartisan solutions. They can just say things like the billions of waste already found in 3 weeks are Pennies in the couch and mindless minions like you will hyperventilate in repeating it over and over.
Republicans have always efforted for bipartisan solutions with Dems. That has not been reciprocated. Republicans should continue to wisen up and govern with the mandate they were given and stop trying to search for bipartisan solutions with a party with historically poor ratings. I doubt they will, but I can hope.

I also love how you pretend to have ANY knowledge on what the ROI is for USAID or CFPB. Lol.

So you agree Trump and Musk's approach has nothing in common with Clinton's.

Got it.


Again, that's just stupid, head in the sand, derangement because Trump/Elon. "Nothing in common" lol.

No it's just obvious logic.

The backbone of Clinton's plan was raising taxes on the rich and corporations. Start there. That is night-and-day from Trump's plan to cut taxes on the rich and corporations.

Clinton raised direct revenue significantly while fostering economic growth, which further grew revenue. Trump is proposing to cut direct federal government revenue (taxes) and implement tariffs which carry the obvious risk of shrinking or stagnating the economy (even less revenue).

Clinton also took a bipartisan approach to cut cost from massive government programs while avoiding the unnecessary chaos that Trump and Musk are creating by immediately deleting entire small departments.

It's obvious how they're extraordinarily different.

In what meaningful ways do you think they're similar?

Civ, I'm not keeping up with this entire back and forth…. That said, as we keep talking about tax programs, let's not forget that massive change in taxes, with the last plan. That Trump tax plan eliminated the deduction of State taxes. So, everyone's taxes could have gone up, except for the offset deductions.

People, that are in the higher income bracket, actually saw a slight increase in their taxes. I know it cost me more. So, I'm a huge believer in the aspect, of the tax plan, as it cost tax payers, of a given State, more, if a State has high taxes.

Unfortunately, I'm hearing that is on the chopping block, for the new tax plan…

One more thing… help me understand how tariffs are anymore of a tax on the people, than taxes (bolded above) a business directly?

Tariffs are quite regressive.

Appropriately taxing higher income brackets and corporations is quite progressive.
With that thinking, let's assume I agree with you. Can't we also say that corporate taxes are regressive as well?
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SHOCK POLL: Trump's Approval Rating Among Black Men Soars to 42 Percent

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/shock-poll-trumps-approval-rating-among-black-men/

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