hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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This is a great idea if you like losing elections.

NEW -

GOP, Trump allies look at changes to Medicaid, food stamps to offset cost of tax bill

Under discussion: Work requirements; eligibility restrictions; benefit formula changes

Possible they stay away from both programs

W/ @jacobbogage @ddiamond https://t.co/Tcvg1aOpPb

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) November 18, 2024

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8 thought you said that if anybody is serious about the budget, then these are the types of areas that need to be looked into…

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yes, but how many abled body people are on Medicaid? Additionally, Medicaid is cheaper than paying hospitals for emergency visits. Social security and Medicare are the two that need to be looked at hard

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This is where the able bodied people are. Medicare is for the elderly. Medicaid is for the people of lower income status.

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Yes, but the percentage of people who are going to be able to work is low. The cuts that are being floated won't come to $100B, and that will all be sucked up by renewing the Trump tax cut.

Social security and Medicare are the two big sucks on overspending. Maybe the Doge crew wil figure that out too.

We are at the point where taxes are going to have to go up because no one is willing to fix SS and Medicare. And that's everyone, can't just soak the rich, that won't pay for it either. It would be better to just raise taxes now and get it over with.

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Hokie, don't fall for the same line that liberals fall for…

Our goal is to reduce the deficit, right? In order for that to happen, we need to do two things.

1) reduce spending
2) increase revenues into the treasury

I agree that Medicare needs to be resolved. I also agree that Social Security needs to resolved. Each one of them is solvable without more in the treasury. Unfortunately, some hard decisions have to be made that some are not going to like.

As far as more into the treasury, well, a more robust economy will increase receipts. Tax cuts have never reduced the receipts into the treasury as we typically get more contributors and the increase in economic growth has high earners contribute more. Megan Kelly did a good review on this several weeks ago.

With 20 - 25% of all receipts going to service the debt, well, that's something that all politicians contributed to and need to solve. Does everyone have the will to do that?

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you know what will not contribute to a robust economy? Tariffs.

I am confused, are you saying Social Security and Medicare are solvent, but also saying there need to be cuts to benefits? Those two statements are I conflict to me.

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Yes, he's saying that tax cuts add money to the treasury just like magic, yet "hard decisions" need to be made about Social Security. If his magical math actually worked you'd think we could just cut taxes and unleash economic growth until our deficit went away.

Of course his magical math doesn't work... it's just the same tired scam they've been pulling for decades. More rich guy tax cuts paid for by draconian cuts to the working class.

Oh well, I guess the working class voted to have their SS slashed, so who am I to judge? Good luck with that!

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your math of soaking the rich doesn't work either.

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No, but "not slashing taxes and soaking the rich" works a lot better than "just plain slashing taxes."

It's old age-old Republican "don't-tax-but-still-spend" conundrum.

Hopefully the Trump Administration can find some meaningful cost savings to help offset their built-in revenue reductions and the actual deficit increase isn't as bad as projected.

DOGE, baby!!

Democrats have been in charge of the Administrative State—the alphabet soup of agencies in DC—for at least 12 of the last 16 years.

Over those 12 years, government control has increased and your freedoms have decreased.

It is time to flip the script in Washington.

— Brendan Carr (@BrendanCarrFCC) November 18, 2024

Broadcast media have had the privilege of using a scarce and valuable public resource—our airwaves. In turn, they are required by law to operate in the public interest.

When the transition is complete, the FCC will enforce this public interest obligation.

— Brendan Carr (@BrendanCarrFCC) November 18, 2024

When it comes to the FCC's promotion of DEI, I have just one thing to say: Afuera! pic.twitter.com/HeZ5OCQ4Ew

— Brendan Carr (@BrendanCarrFCC) November 18, 2024

hokiewolf said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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This is a great idea if you like losing elections.

NEW -

GOP, Trump allies look at changes to Medicaid, food stamps to offset cost of tax bill

Under discussion: Work requirements; eligibility restrictions; benefit formula changes

Possible they stay away from both programs

W/ @jacobbogage @ddiamond https://t.co/Tcvg1aOpPb

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) November 18, 2024

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8 thought you said that if anybody is serious about the budget, then these are the types of areas that need to be looked into…

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yes, but how many abled body people are on Medicaid? Additionally, Medicaid is cheaper than paying hospitals for emergency visits. Social security and Medicare are the two that need to be looked at hard

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This is where the able bodied people are. Medicare is for the elderly. Medicaid is for the people of lower income status.

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Yes, but the percentage of people who are going to be able to work is low. The cuts that are being floated won't come to $100B, and that will all be sucked up by renewing the Trump tax cut.

Social security and Medicare are the two big sucks on overspending. Maybe the Doge crew wil figure that out too.

We are at the point where taxes are going to have to go up because no one is willing to fix SS and Medicare. And that's everyone, can't just soak the rich, that won't pay for it either. It would be better to just raise taxes now and get it over with.

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Hokie, don't fall for the same line that liberals fall for…

Our goal is to reduce the deficit, right? In order for that to happen, we need to do two things.

1) reduce spending
2) increase revenues into the treasury

I agree that Medicare needs to be resolved. I also agree that Social Security needs to resolved. Each one of them is solvable without more in the treasury. Unfortunately, some hard decisions have to be made that some are not going to like.

As far as more into the treasury, well, a more robust economy will increase receipts. Tax cuts have never reduced the receipts into the treasury as we typically get more contributors and the increase in economic growth has high earners contribute more. Megan Kelly did a good review on this several weeks ago.

With 20 - 25% of all receipts going to service the debt, well, that's something that all politicians contributed to and need to solve. Does everyone have the will to do that?

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you know what will not contribute to a robust economy? Tariffs.

I am confused, are you saying Social Security and Medicare are solvent, but also saying there need to be cuts to benefits? Those two statements are I conflict to me.

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Yes, he's saying that tax cuts add money to the treasury just like magic, yet "hard decisions" need to be made about Social Security. If his magical math actually worked you'd think we could just cut taxes and unleash economic growth until our deficit went away.

Of course his magical math doesn't work... it's just the same tired scam they've been pulling for decades. More rich guy tax cuts paid for by draconian cuts to the working class.

Oh well, I guess the working class voted to have their SS slashed, so who am I to judge? Good luck with that!

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your math of soaking the rich doesn't work either.

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So suggesting that the optimal tax rate for running a stable superpower isn't Cary's fantasy rate of zero, and in fact we may have already shot below that optimal rate, is "soaking the rich"? Got it!

Anyway, by all means go ahead and slash taxes again and stick it on the deficit again. Actually attempting to pay for it by gutting Social Security would be the most fiscally responsible thing Republicans have done in ages.

SmaptyWolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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This is a great idea if you like losing elections.

NEW -

GOP, Trump allies look at changes to Medicaid, food stamps to offset cost of tax bill

Under discussion: Work requirements; eligibility restrictions; benefit formula changes

Possible they stay away from both programs

W/ @jacobbogage @ddiamond https://t.co/Tcvg1aOpPb

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) November 18, 2024

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8 thought you said that if anybody is serious about the budget, then these are the types of areas that need to be looked into…

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yes, but how many abled body people are on Medicaid? Additionally, Medicaid is cheaper than paying hospitals for emergency visits. Social security and Medicare are the two that need to be looked at hard

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This is where the able bodied people are. Medicare is for the elderly. Medicaid is for the people of lower income status.

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Yes, but the percentage of people who are going to be able to work is low. The cuts that are being floated won't come to $100B, and that will all be sucked up by renewing the Trump tax cut.

Social security and Medicare are the two big sucks on overspending. Maybe the Doge crew wil figure that out too.

We are at the point where taxes are going to have to go up because no one is willing to fix SS and Medicare. And that's everyone, can't just soak the rich, that won't pay for it either. It would be better to just raise taxes now and get it over with.

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Hokie, don't fall for the same line that liberals fall for…

Our goal is to reduce the deficit, right? In order for that to happen, we need to do two things.

1) reduce spending
2) increase revenues into the treasury

I agree that Medicare needs to be resolved. I also agree that Social Security needs to resolved. Each one of them is solvable without more in the treasury. Unfortunately, some hard decisions have to be made that some are not going to like.

As far as more into the treasury, well, a more robust economy will increase receipts. Tax cuts have never reduced the receipts into the treasury as we typically get more contributors and the increase in economic growth has high earners contribute more. Megan Kelly did a good review on this several weeks ago.

With 20 - 25% of all receipts going to service the debt, well, that's something that all politicians contributed to and need to solve. Does everyone have the will to do that?

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you know what will not contribute to a robust economy? Tariffs.

I am confused, are you saying Social Security and Medicare are solvent, but also saying there need to be cuts to benefits? Those two statements are I conflict to me.

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Yes, he's saying that tax cuts add money to the treasury just like magic, yet "hard decisions" need to be made about Social Security. If his magical math actually worked you'd think we could just cut taxes and unleash economic growth until our deficit went away.

Of course his magical math doesn't work... it's just the same tired scam they've been pulling for decades. More rich guy tax cuts paid for by draconian cuts to the working class.

Oh well, I guess the working class voted to have their SS slashed, so who am I to judge? Good luck with that!

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your math of soaking the rich doesn't work either.

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So suggesting that the optimal tax rate for running a stable superpower isn't Cary's fantasy rate of zero, and in fact we may have already shot below that optimal rate, is "soaking the rich"? Got it!

Anyway, by all means go ahead and slash taxes again and stick it on the deficit again. Actually attempting to pay for it by gutting Social Security would be the most fiscally responsible thing Republicans have done in ages.

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We're well past normal solutions. Unfortunately the can has been kicked for too long. I only see spinach when it comes to tax policy for the middle class, especially because boomers are sharing out and they didn't make enough gen xers.

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Bububut the committee!!!!'

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LOL at y'all conflating "choosing not to press charges for sex trafficking" for "found to have done nothing wrong."

Seems obvious Republicans on the Hill that are vowing not to confirm wouldn't be up in arms if Gaetz had "done nothing wrong."

hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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This is a great idea if you like losing elections.

NEW -

GOP, Trump allies look at changes to Medicaid, food stamps to offset cost of tax bill

Under discussion: Work requirements; eligibility restrictions; benefit formula changes

Possible they stay away from both programs

W/ @jacobbogage @ddiamond https://t.co/Tcvg1aOpPb

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) November 18, 2024

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8 thought you said that if anybody is serious about the budget, then these are the types of areas that need to be looked into…

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yes, but how many abled body people are on Medicaid? Additionally, Medicaid is cheaper than paying hospitals for emergency visits. Social security and Medicare are the two that need to be looked at hard

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This is where the able bodied people are. Medicare is for the elderly. Medicaid is for the people of lower income status.

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Yes, but the percentage of people who are going to be able to work is low. The cuts that are being floated won't come to $100B, and that will all be sucked up by renewing the Trump tax cut.

Social security and Medicare are the two big sucks on overspending. Maybe the Doge crew wil figure that out too.

We are at the point where taxes are going to have to go up because no one is willing to fix SS and Medicare. And that's everyone, can't just soak the rich, that won't pay for it either. It would be better to just raise taxes now and get it over with.

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Hokie, don't fall for the same line that liberals fall for…

Our goal is to reduce the deficit, right? In order for that to happen, we need to do two things.

1) reduce spending
2) increase revenues into the treasury

I agree that Medicare needs to be resolved. I also agree that Social Security needs to resolved. Each one of them is solvable without more in the treasury. Unfortunately, some hard decisions have to be made that some are not going to like.

As far as more into the treasury, well, a more robust economy will increase receipts. Tax cuts have never reduced the receipts into the treasury as we typically get more contributors and the increase in economic growth has high earners contribute more. Megan Kelly did a good review on this several weeks ago.

With 20 - 25% of all receipts going to service the debt, well, that's something that all politicians contributed to and need to solve. Does everyone have the will to do that?

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you know what will not contribute to a robust economy? Tariffs.

I am confused, are you saying Social Security and Medicare are solvent, but also saying there need to be cuts to benefits? Those two statements are I conflict to me.

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I don't see where I said the two are solvent…. The whole federal government is dang near insolvent. What I am saying is that the two biggies are solvable; however, changes need to be made.

We don't necessarily need more revenues for the programs; rather, we need more cuts and/or administrative controls and less coercive collaboration…

Much to the chagrin of the resident leftist, for everything else, we need a more robust economy, with a more streamlined tax system, that spreads the receipts out more evenly. I'm a fan of a consumption tax and do away with the production system, we currently have.

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packgrad said:

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Bububut the committee!!!!'

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LOL at y'all conflating "choosing not to press charges for sex trafficking" for "found to have done nothing wrong."

Seems obvious Republicans on the Hill that are vowing not to confirm wouldn't be up in arms if Gaetz had "done nothing wrong."

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I don't know Civ,… didn't the legal system work. You're all about letting the system work. Well, part of that system is innocent until proven guilty. If the DOJ didn't find enough evidence to to charge him, well…

caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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This is a great idea if you like losing elections.

NEW -

GOP, Trump allies look at changes to Medicaid, food stamps to offset cost of tax bill

Under discussion: Work requirements; eligibility restrictions; benefit formula changes

Possible they stay away from both programs

W/ @jacobbogage @ddiamond https://t.co/Tcvg1aOpPb

— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) November 18, 2024

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8 thought you said that if anybody is serious about the budget, then these are the types of areas that need to be looked into…

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yes, but how many abled body people are on Medicaid? Additionally, Medicaid is cheaper than paying hospitals for emergency visits. Social security and Medicare are the two that need to be looked at hard

---

This is where the able bodied people are. Medicare is for the elderly. Medicaid is for the people of lower income status.

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Yes, but the percentage of people who are going to be able to work is low. The cuts that are being floated won't come to $100B, and that will all be sucked up by renewing the Trump tax cut.

Social security and Medicare are the two big sucks on overspending. Maybe the Doge crew wil figure that out too.

We are at the point where taxes are going to have to go up because no one is willing to fix SS and Medicare. And that's everyone, can't just soak the rich, that won't pay for it either. It would be better to just raise taxes now and get it over with.

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Hokie, don't fall for the same line that liberals fall for…

Our goal is to reduce the deficit, right? In order for that to happen, we need to do two things.

1) reduce spending
2) increase revenues into the treasury

I agree that Medicare needs to be resolved. I also agree that Social Security needs to resolved. Each one of them is solvable without more in the treasury. Unfortunately, some hard decisions have to be made that some are not going to like.

As far as more into the treasury, well, a more robust economy will increase receipts. Tax cuts have never reduced the receipts into the treasury as we typically get more contributors and the increase in economic growth has high earners contribute more. Megan Kelly did a good review on this several weeks ago.

With 20 - 25% of all receipts going to service the debt, well, that's something that all politicians contributed to and need to solve. Does everyone have the will to do that?

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you know what will not contribute to a robust economy? Tariffs.

I am confused, are you saying Social Security and Medicare are solvent, but also saying there need to be cuts to benefits? Those two statements are I conflict to me.

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I don't see where I said the two are solvent…. The whole federal government is dang near insolvent. What I am saying is that the two biggies are solvable; however, changes need to be made.

We don't necessarily need more revenues for the programs; rather, we need more cuts and/or administrative controls and less coercive collaboration…

Much to the chagrin of the resident leftist, for everything else, we need a more robust economy, with a more streamlined tax system, that spreads the receipts out more evenly. I'm a fan of a consumption tax and do away with the production system, we currently have.

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You'd almost think we aren't currently BY FAR the wealthiest and most powerful country on Earth. It takes a special kind of ideological lunatic to want to burn it all down.

Because you have too much spare time and disposable income and are bored, I guess.

caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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packgrad said:

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Bububut the committee!!!!'

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LOL at y'all conflating "choosing not to press charges for sex trafficking" for "found to have done nothing wrong."

Seems obvious Republicans on the Hill that are vowing not to confirm wouldn't be up in arms if Gaetz had "done nothing wrong."

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I don't know Civ,… didn't the legal system work. You're all about letting the system work. Well, part of that system is innocent until proven guilty. If the DOJ didn't find enough evidence to to charge him, well…

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The DOJ and Ethics Committee don't have the same purviews.

The Ethics committee hasn't found evidence of sex trafficking either I'm strongly suspecting, but they apparently have heard evidence of other wrongdoing or ethical violations that fell outside the DOJ's scope.

Gaetz is nominated to be the top cop in the land. Its not asking too much to understand whether he is legally or ethically compromised.

And again, why do we have Congressional Republicans highly concerned about Gaetz if he's "done nothing wrong."

Probably need a Big Pharma thread because the TRUTH will require it as its revealed.

Big Pharma is Secretly Ghostwriting Articles in Top Medical and Oncology Journals to Trick Doctors into Prescribing Their Dangerous Drugs!

Let’s not waste time sugar-coating it. Big Pharma has rigged the entire medical system. What you thought was science, what you trusted as… pic.twitter.com/nMicC25oVO

— Jon Rob (@homogalactic) November 17, 2024

Our very own Elon Musk referencing Q. Loving it.

pic.twitter.com/ZMuoxownmF

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 17, 2024

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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packgrad said:

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Bububut the committee!!!!'

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LOL at y'all conflating "choosing not to press charges for sex trafficking" for "found to have done nothing wrong."

Seems obvious Republicans on the Hill that are vowing not to confirm wouldn't be up in arms if Gaetz had "done nothing wrong."

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I don't know Civ,… didn't the legal system work. You're all about letting the system work. Well, part of that system is innocent until proven guilty. If the DOJ didn't find enough evidence to to charge him, well…

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The DOJ and Ethics Committee don't have the same purviews.

The Ethics committee hasn't found evidence of sex trafficking either I'm strongly suspecting, but they apparently have heard evidence of other wrongdoing or ethical violations that fell outside the DOJ's scope.

Gaetz is nominated to be the top cop in the land. Its not asking too much to understand whether he is legally or ethically compromised.

And again, why do we have Congressional Republicans highly concerned about Gaetz if he's "done nothing wrong."

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Given that some Congressional Republicans are just as morally or legally compromised as are Congressional Democrats, the question answers itself. If I were in their shoes, I wouldn't want a guy like Gaetz looking into me, either.

Precisely.

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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packgrad said:

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Bububut the committee!!!!'

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LOL at y'all conflating "choosing not to press charges for sex trafficking" for "found to have done nothing wrong."

Seems obvious Republicans on the Hill that are vowing not to confirm wouldn't be up in arms if Gaetz had "done nothing wrong."

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I don't know Civ,… didn't the legal system work. You're all about letting the system work. Well, part of that system is innocent until proven guilty. If the DOJ didn't find enough evidence to to charge him, well…

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The DOJ and Ethics Committee don't have the same purviews.

The Ethics committee hasn't found evidence of sex trafficking either I'm strongly suspecting, but they apparently have heard evidence of other wrongdoing or ethical violations that fell outside the DOJ's scope.

Gaetz is nominated to be the top cop in the land. Its not asking too much to understand whether he is legally or ethically compromised.

And again, why do we have Congressional Republicans highly concerned about Gaetz if he's "done nothing wrong."

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Civ, that's the world view difference we have…. At some point, I get tired of all the investigations against Republicans. My hunch is that there isn't anything there (could be wrong) and this is all to do with some type of vendetta.

Is Gaetz squeaky clean? Probably not! Are you, Civ, squeaky clean? Probably not!

At this point, anymore, I don't even care. I want the person that is going to deconstruct whatever part, of the Federal Government, they are appointed to do. I believe we have a rot in our system that is not good. So, put the person in there that will eradicate that rot.

Now, if you don't think we have a rot in our Federal Agencies, then you will probably see different than me. That said, we won, you lost!!

#Sieve, Gaetz will be the top Prosecutor in the land, not the top Cop. By the way, Sieve, u watching any NFL football? I seldom do but keep seeing this. :- 0

ANOTHER Trump dance during NFL Sunday. The energy shift across the country is undeniable. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!pic.twitter.com/wjjrPWHdoq

— Suburban Black Man 🇺🇸 (@niceblackdude) November 17, 2024

#Sieve, MAGA will go down in history as having saved the Republic. Stay tuned pal.

Trump Dance on US men’s soccer team! America is back 🇺🇸
pic.twitter.com/l4pPnoQAbT

— J (@JayTC53) November 19, 2024

#Sieve, you're always a pretty good sport when I rib you......not matter how irrational you are. ;-)

Democrats, this is the nail in the coffin! The Trump dance signals defeat. It's taking the world by storm, uniting people globally. Sending thoughts and prayers your way!🇺🇸MAGA pic.twitter.com/1TL0aOVTQa

— 🌿KJUNE (@kjune65) November 18, 2024

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packgrad said:

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Bububut the committee!!!!'

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LOL at y'all conflating "choosing not to press charges for sex trafficking" for "found to have done nothing wrong."

Seems obvious Republicans on the Hill that are vowing not to confirm wouldn't be up in arms if Gaetz had "done nothing wrong."

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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packgrad said:

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Bububut the committee!!!!'

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LOL at y'all conflating "choosing not to press charges for sex trafficking" for "found to have done nothing wrong."

Seems obvious Republicans on the Hill that are vowing not to confirm wouldn't be up in arms if Gaetz had "done nothing wrong."

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I don't know Civ,… didn't the legal system work. You're all about letting the system work. Well, part of that system is innocent until proven guilty. If the DOJ didn't find enough evidence to to charge him, well…

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The DOJ and Ethics Committee don't have the same purviews.

The Ethics committee hasn't found evidence of sex trafficking either I'm strongly suspecting, but they apparently have heard evidence of other wrongdoing or ethical violations that fell outside the DOJ's scope.

Gaetz is nominated to be the top cop in the land. Its not asking too much to understand whether he is legally or ethically compromised.

And again, why do we have Congressional Republicans highly concerned about Gaetz if he's "done nothing wrong."

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Civ, that's the world view difference we have…. At some point, I get tired of all the investigations against Republicans. My hunch is that there isn't anything there (could be wrong) and this is all to do with some type of vendetta.

Is Gaetz squeaky clean? Probably not! Are you, Civ, squeaky clean? Probably not!

At this point, anymore, I don't even care. I want the person that is going to deconstruct whatever part, of the Federal Government, they are appointed to do. I believe we have a rot in our system that is not good. So, put the person in there that will eradicate that rot.

Now, if you don't think we have a rot in our Federal Agencies, then you will probably see different than me. That said, we won, you lost!!

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Well said.

Here you go Hokie…

NEW: Donald Trump is expected to pick Cantor Fitzgerald CEO Howard Lutnick as Commerce Secretary, according to Punchbowl.

Here is Lutnick blowing the minds of CNBC hosts as he explained how Trump will use tariffs as a negotiation tactic.

Lutnick lost 658 employees in the… pic.twitter.com/6Aalo2mKQv

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) November 19, 2024

#Sieve is clutching to hang on to "his #Matrix of truth". You can see his clutching fingernail marks scratched across the railings and footposts of his comfy bed, as he grasps his security blanket between his knees. LOL, he can't come to terms with the truth.

BBW12OG said:

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Civilized said:

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packgrad said:

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Bububut the committee!!!!'

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LOL at y'all conflating "choosing not to press charges for sex trafficking" for "found to have done nothing wrong."

Seems obvious Republicans on the Hill that are vowing not to confirm wouldn't be up in arms if Gaetz had "done nothing wrong."

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LOL

so....

You tried this with EVERY damn GOP nominee from the SCOTUS to every nominee since 1987......

Clarence Thomas
Donald Trump
Brett Kavanaugh
Pete Hegstheth
Matt Gaetz

Please.... Keep trying

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No, just the duds and sex assaulters.

You notice how you left out Roberts, Alito, Gorsuch, and Barrett? You know, the ones who don't appear to be duds and sex assaulters?

Also you ever notice how you don't debate whether these duds and sex assaulters are actually duds and sex assaulters, you just insult the people that object to them?

This is like an all-star list from the island of misfit toy nominees and it's obvious why people wouldn't be lining up to confirm them.

And it's not just one side. Republicans are objecting to Gaetz too.

Good luck getting all but 4 senators to vote for that drugged up loser with a penchant for paying to bang drugged up party girls who may or may not be of legal age.

Ukraine braces for possible retaliation after firing U.S.-made ATACMS missiles into Russia's Bryansk region

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/russia-ukraine-us-atacms-missiles-bryansk/
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As Biden doesn't know which planet he's on, Obama doing his best to leave a mess for President Trump to clean up.

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Ukraine braces for possible retaliation after firing U.S.-made ATACMS missiles into Russia's Bryansk region

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/russia-ukraine-us-atacms-missiles-bryansk/
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As Biden doesn't know which planet he's on, Obama doing his best to leave a mess for President Trump to clean up.

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#Gobbler has his fingers crossed!

Hey #Stormie; you here this morning? #devolution, my friend. #discernment too ;-)

Please listen to Trump’s words from 2022 https://t.co/G6cpCrH1CK

— Dr. Jan Halper-Hayes (@Biz_Shrink) November 12, 2024

Notice how beta civ cries about being called names when he calls people names. Dude is such a hypocrite.

And hilarious that this beta thinks anyone gives a **** about his opinion on these nominees after the **** show he supported last election and **** show presidential candidate he supported this election.

Hypocritical civ. Zero integrity.

caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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packgrad said:

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Bububut the committee!!!!'

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LOL at y'all conflating "choosing not to press charges for sex trafficking" for "found to have done nothing wrong."

Seems obvious Republicans on the Hill that are vowing not to confirm wouldn't be up in arms if Gaetz had "done nothing wrong."

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I don't know Civ,… didn't the legal system work. You're all about letting the system work. Well, part of that system is innocent until proven guilty. If the DOJ didn't find enough evidence to to charge him, well…

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The DOJ and Ethics Committee don't have the same purviews.

The Ethics committee hasn't found evidence of sex trafficking either I'm strongly suspecting, but they apparently have heard evidence of other wrongdoing or ethical violations that fell outside the DOJ's scope.

Gaetz is nominated to be the top cop in the land. Its not asking too much to understand whether he is legally or ethically compromised.

And again, why do we have Congressional Republicans highly concerned about Gaetz if he's "done nothing wrong."

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Civ, that's the world view difference we have…. At some point, I get tired of all the investigations against Republicans. My hunch is that there isn't anything there (could be wrong) and this is all to do with some type of vendetta.

Is Gaetz squeaky clean? Probably not! Are you, Civ, squeaky clean? Probably not!

At this point, anymore, I don't even care. I want the person that is going to deconstruct whatever part, of the Federal Government, they are appointed to do. I believe we have a rot in our system that is not good. So, put the person in there that will eradicate that rot.

Now, if you don't think we have a rot in our Federal Agencies, then you will probably see different than me. That said, we won, you lost!!

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The Republicans that are speaking up about Gaetz have a vendetta? What would that vendetta be?

Look at Roberts, Alito, Gorsuch, and Barrett. Did they get investigated?

Think maybe that was because they seemed clean?

You finally nailed it though. You don't care and neither does most of Congress or more than half of voters. All accusations, no matter how credible, are a witchhunt, and Pubs are perpetual victims.

I'm looking forward to Trump's attempts at retribution over the next four years. They'll be a great reminder that investigations have to have actual evidence to proceed.

Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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packgrad said:

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Bububut the committee!!!!'

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LOL at y'all conflating "choosing not to press charges for sex trafficking" for "found to have done nothing wrong."

Seems obvious Republicans on the Hill that are vowing not to confirm wouldn't be up in arms if Gaetz had "done nothing wrong."

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I don't know Civ,… didn't the legal system work. You're all about letting the system work. Well, part of that system is innocent until proven guilty. If the DOJ didn't find enough evidence to to charge him, well…

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The DOJ and Ethics Committee don't have the same purviews.

The Ethics committee hasn't found evidence of sex trafficking either I'm strongly suspecting, but they apparently have heard evidence of other wrongdoing or ethical violations that fell outside the DOJ's scope.

Gaetz is nominated to be the top cop in the land. Its not asking too much to understand whether he is legally or ethically compromised.

And again, why do we have Congressional Republicans highly concerned about Gaetz if he's "done nothing wrong."

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Civ, that's the world view difference we have…. At some point, I get tired of all the investigations against Republicans. My hunch is that there isn't anything there (could be wrong) and this is all to do with some type of vendetta.

Is Gaetz squeaky clean? Probably not! Are you, Civ, squeaky clean? Probably not!

At this point, anymore, I don't even care. I want the person that is going to deconstruct whatever part, of the Federal Government, they are appointed to do. I believe we have a rot in our system that is not good. So, put the person in there that will eradicate that rot.

Now, if you don't think we have a rot in our Federal Agencies, then you will probably see different than me. That said, we won, you lost!!

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The Republicans that are speaking up about Gaetz have a vendetta? What would that vendetta be?

Look at Roberts, Alito, Gorsuch, and Barrett. Did they get investigated?

Think maybe that was because they seemed clean?

You finally nailed it though. You don't care and neither does most of Congress or more than half of voters. All accusations, no matter how credible, are a witchhunt, and Pubs are perpetual victims.

I'm looking forward to Trump's attempts at retribution over the next four years. They'll be a great reminder that investigations have to have actual evidence to proceed.

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You don't give a **** about evidence, beta. 3 year investigations by the DOJ isn't enough for you.

lol at the hypocrisy from this clown.

America voted for change. Give the man what he wants.

Unironically this is the correct position: America has voted for change for 20+ years and never truly got it

Trump 2.0 is about delivering on actually BLOWING up and resetting our institutions

Give people what they asked for and then we can judge the results https://t.co/Q8pQzHdETC

— Saagar Enjeti (@esaagar) November 19, 2024

Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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packgrad said:

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Bububut the committee!!!!'

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LOL at y'all conflating "choosing not to press charges for sex trafficking" for "found to have done nothing wrong."

Seems obvious Republicans on the Hill that are vowing not to confirm wouldn't be up in arms if Gaetz had "done nothing wrong."

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I don't know Civ,… didn't the legal system work. You're all about letting the system work. Well, part of that system is innocent until proven guilty. If the DOJ didn't find enough evidence to to charge him, well…

---

The DOJ and Ethics Committee don't have the same purviews.

The Ethics committee hasn't found evidence of sex trafficking either I'm strongly suspecting, but they apparently have heard evidence of other wrongdoing or ethical violations that fell outside the DOJ's scope.

Gaetz is nominated to be the top cop in the land. Its not asking too much to understand whether he is legally or ethically compromised.

And again, why do we have Congressional Republicans highly concerned about Gaetz if he's "done nothing wrong."

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Civ, that's the world view difference we have…. At some point, I get tired of all the investigations against Republicans. My hunch is that there isn't anything there (could be wrong) and this is all to do with some type of vendetta.

Is Gaetz squeaky clean? Probably not! Are you, Civ, squeaky clean? Probably not!

At this point, anymore, I don't even care. I want the person that is going to deconstruct whatever part, of the Federal Government, they are appointed to do. I believe we have a rot in our system that is not good. So, put the person in there that will eradicate that rot.

Now, if you don't think we have a rot in our Federal Agencies, then you will probably see different than me. That said, we won, you lost!!

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The Republicans that are speaking up about Gaetz have a vendetta? What would that vendetta be?

Look at Roberts, Alito, Gorsuch, and Barrett. Did they get investigated?

Think maybe that was because they seemed clean?

You finally nailed it though. You don't care and neither does most of Congress or more than half of voters. All accusations, no matter how credible, are a witchhunt, and Pubs are perpetual victims.

I'm looking forward to Trump's attempts at retribution over the next four years. They'll be a great reminder that investigations have to have actual evidence to proceed.

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Civ, I have been very consistent, unlike you, that Republicans are part of the rot, in DC. Yes, they are speaking out because he might be a threat to their being. They all are butt-boys with Kevin McCarthy. Kevin was axed by Gaetz…. So, yes… they have a vendetta.

Civ, take your head out of your ass and accept the fact we have rot, in both parties, in DC!