TRUMP 2024

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barelypure
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SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

barelypure said:

Trump is campaigning to repeal the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974. Before 1974 Presidents could decide not to spend all of the money Congress authorized and return the unspent portion back to the General Fund. In effect it set the ceiling of what could be spent. With the passage of this act it set the floor. So if Congress passed a bill calling for $1.4 trillion to be spent that was the minimum amount that was going to be spent and they could add to that amount. Under Impoundment the $1.4 trillion was the max that could be spent and the President could decide to spend less. That sounds like a good thing to me. It could get spending back in check.


Agree. What's the downside of this?

The alternative, current arrangement incentivizes waste and deemphasizes value.

I'd go a step further and incentivize ways to reward departments or endeavors that come in under budget. No different than a developer incentivizing builders and vendors to be economical by sharing in realized cost savings with them.

Maybe I'm missing something. Is this saying that a rogue president should have the power to fully defund any law he doesn't like? If so I can certainly envision some downsides.
Do you mean like Biden deciding not to enforce our immigration laws? Or maybe withholding armaments from Israel that Congress passed and he signed into law? Or forgiving student loans contrary to what the law says and the SCOTUS amplified. Or the myriad of regulations relating to oil leases, exploration, etc. Be specific as to what should happen to a rogue President who thumbs his nose at laws legally passed but he decides not to enforce.

I'm sure you're pointing this at Trump but he's not a rouge President, he's an orange President.
Werewolf
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#Sieve, #Nappy, #Gobbler and #Foreskin; what's next? Whatcha got?

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barelypure said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

barelypure said:

Trump is campaigning to repeal the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974. Before 1974 Presidents could decide not to spend all of the money Congress authorized and return the unspent portion back to the General Fund. In effect it set the ceiling of what could be spent. With the passage of this act it set the floor. So if Congress passed a bill calling for $1.4 trillion to be spent that was the minimum amount that was going to be spent and they could add to that amount. Under Impoundment the $1.4 trillion was the max that could be spent and the President could decide to spend less. That sounds like a good thing to me. It could get spending back in check.


Agree. What's the downside of this?

The alternative, current arrangement incentivizes waste and deemphasizes value.

I'd go a step further and incentivize ways to reward departments or endeavors that come in under budget. No different than a developer incentivizing builders and vendors to be economical by sharing in realized cost savings with them.

Maybe I'm missing something. Is this saying that a rogue president should have the power to fully defund any law he doesn't like? If so I can certainly envision some downsides.
Do you mean like Biden deciding not to enforce our immigration laws? Or maybe withholding armaments from Israel that Congress passed and he signed into law? Or forgiving student loans contrary to what the law says and the SCOTUS amplified. Or the myriad of regulations relating to oil leases, exploration, etc. Be specific as to what should happen to a rogue President who thumbs his nose at laws legally passed but he decides not to enforce.

I'm sure you're pointing this at Trump but he's not a rouge President, he's an orange President.
Yes, that's why I have mixed opinions of this change.
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caryking said:

barelypure said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

barelypure said:

Trump is campaigning to repeal the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974. Before 1974 Presidents could decide not to spend all of the money Congress authorized and return the unspent portion back to the General Fund. In effect it set the ceiling of what could be spent. With the passage of this act it set the floor. So if Congress passed a bill calling for $1.4 trillion to be spent that was the minimum amount that was going to be spent and they could add to that amount. Under Impoundment the $1.4 trillion was the max that could be spent and the President could decide to spend less. That sounds like a good thing to me. It could get spending back in check.


Agree. What's the downside of this?

The alternative, current arrangement incentivizes waste and deemphasizes value.

I'd go a step further and incentivize ways to reward departments or endeavors that come in under budget. No different than a developer incentivizing builders and vendors to be economical by sharing in realized cost savings with them.

Maybe I'm missing something. Is this saying that a rogue president should have the power to fully defund any law he doesn't like? If so I can certainly envision some downsides.
Do you mean like Biden deciding not to enforce our immigration laws? Or maybe withholding armaments from Israel that Congress passed and he signed into law? Or forgiving student loans contrary to what the law says and the SCOTUS amplified. Or the myriad of regulations relating to oil leases, exploration, etc. Be specific as to what should happen to a rogue President who thumbs his nose at laws legally passed but he decides not to enforce.

I'm sure you're pointing this at Trump but he's not a rouge President, he's an orange President.
Yes, that's why I have mixed opinions of this change.


I have mixed feelings as well. It could get ugly.
caryking
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Somebody's doing their homework…


Ncsufist
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Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

barelypure said:

Trump is campaigning to repeal the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974. Before 1974 Presidents could decide not to spend all of the money Congress authorized and return the unspent portion back to the General Fund. In effect it set the ceiling of what could be spent. With the passage of this act it set the floor. So if Congress passed a bill calling for $1.4 trillion to be spent that was the minimum amount that was going to be spent and they could add to that amount. Under Impoundment the $1.4 trillion was the max that could be spent and the President could decide to spend less. That sounds like a good thing to me. It could get spending back in check.


Agree. What's the downside of this?

The alternative, current arrangement incentivizes waste and deemphasizes value.

I'd go a step further and incentivize ways to reward departments or endeavors that come in under budget. No different than a developer incentivizing builders and vendors to be economical by sharing in realized cost savings with them.

Maybe I'm missing something. Is this saying that a rogue president should have the power to fully defund any law he doesn't like? If so I can certainly envision some downsides.

Yeah the details would matter obviously but I think discretion should be given to not have to spend all allocated money if the purpose of the allocation had been achieved without full disbursement for the task.

There are ripple effects and unintended consequences of essentially every action or inaction, but eliminating bloat and aligning incentives are things that the federal government should absolutely try to incorporate when and where practicable.

It's impractical and maybe inadvisable for the fed gub'mint to model itsel after private industry in all or even most ways but reigning in waste and inefficiencies wherever practicable helps everyone.


The mindset of use or lose prevents this theoretical operating modus.
Ncsufist
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caryking said:

Somebody's doing their homework…





Wait until someone remembers they can pull funding for specific government employees position or drastically lower their salary
Ncsufist
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So what do yall think is gonna happen to trumps ga case now that the Fulton county da office has been removed from prosecuting it??
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Werewolf said:

I don't watch Hannity but saw this on Twitter and he's interviewing two patriots.



You really have to wonder about the mental state of people who repeatedly call down God to uphold their oaths as truth when it isn't.
Werewolf
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Are you aware of how many of these federal and state office holders who have either?
a) not signed their oath of office
b) signed an oath to the International Monetary Fund

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SmaptyWolf
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Ncsufist said:

So what do yall think is gonna happen to trumps ga case now that the Fulton county da office has been removed from prosecuting it??

Oh, did Fani Willis get taken off the case on Earth 2 where you guys live?
ncsupack1
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SmaptyWolf said:

Ncsufist said:

So what do yall think is gonna happen to trumps ga case now that the Fulton county da office has been removed from prosecuting it??

Oh, did Fani Willis get taken off the case on Earth 2 where you guys live?


All I can find is that Trump won an appeal. I guess I could have missed something?
barelypure
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caryking
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Ok, this is funny…


Werewolf
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#daSieve and #Nappy are going down with the ship.

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Werewolf
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Nothing #Sieve, Nothing......can stop what's coming. #Boomerang #Devolution

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Oldsouljer
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Werewolf said:

#daSieve and #Nappy are going down with the ship.


Saw that, seems to be a bit of a Trumprising in South Bronx.
barelypure
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NYC has more population than 39 other states. Los Angeles has more population than 40 other states. Both will vote for Biden. It takes a lot of votes in the other states to overcome their numbers.
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Werewolf
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LMAO. #daSieve and #Nappy will not be deterred.
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Werewolf
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#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
Civilized
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Same list as Billy Madison?

TheStorm
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Civilized said:

Same list as Billy Madison?


I think that top line was supposed to read John Simonds?
Werewolf
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Now SIeve, that's not the attitude to take! ;-)
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ncsupack1
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Trump coming to the 600.
Werewolf
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LMAO
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SmaptyWolf
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Werewolf said:

LMAO


So he's not eligible to run for a third term in 2024 then? Awesome!
caryking
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SmaptyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

LMAO


So he's not eligible to run for a third term in 2024 then? Awesome!
Will you make an exception?
Werewolf
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^I post a lot of provocative things here. Let's see how it all pans out ;-)
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barelypure said:

NYC has more population than 39 other states. Los Angeles has more population than 40 other states. Both will vote for Biden. It takes a lot of votes in the other states to overcome their numbers.
Thank god for the electoral college.
caryking
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ncsupack1
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jkpackfan said:

barelypure said:

NYC has more population than 39 other states. Los Angeles has more population than 40 other states. Both will vote for Biden. It takes a lot of votes in the other states to overcome their numbers.
Thank god for the electoral college.
Agree. Ever notice who doesn't like it?
Werewolf
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caryking said:



#BOOMERANG
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
jkpackfan
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ncsupack1 said:

jkpackfan said:

barelypure said:

NYC has more population than 39 other states. Los Angeles has more population than 40 other states. Both will vote for Biden. It takes a lot of votes in the other states to overcome their numbers.
Thank god for the electoral college.
Agree. Ever notice who doesn't like it?
Lol exactly
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ncsupack1 said:

jkpackfan said:

barelypure said:

NYC has more population than 39 other states. Los Angeles has more population than 40 other states. Both will vote for Biden. It takes a lot of votes in the other states to overcome their numbers.
Thank god for the electoral college.
Agree. Ever notice who doesn't like it?


Yep
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