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grantwolf
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Werewolf said:

#Sieve, where r ya bro? Did you hear that? The largest political gathering in the history of New Jersey!! #MAGA
And you lapped up this garbage without a bit of verifying, didn't you?

A space advertised as accommodating 20k people was at less than half capacity.
Ncsufist
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packofwolves said:

barelypure said:

packofwolves said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Sorry, but Russian / Trump collusion in 2016 is a farce and has been widely disproven by many reputable reporters.

You can ***** about it, but that puts you in the same category as election deniers in my book

Honestly, anyone who thinks the Trump/Russia stuff is on par with election deniers has had their brain boiled.

The "stolen election" was pulled directly out of Trump's butt, and has been laughed out of every courtroom in the country.

Despite Bill Barr and the media's herculean and very successful effort to sweep the Mueller Report under the rug, it in fact doesn't say what you think it says at all. You just clearly never bothered to look.

The Mueller Report actually documents a sh**load of highly questionable interactions between the Trump Admin and Russia, but points out repeatedly that he encountered so much obstruction that he really couldn't get very far in gathering the high bar of evidence needed for conspiracy charges. You can pretend that means exoneration and that something was "disproven", but over here in the real world you have to be brain dead to not wonder what all that crap was about.

Saying Trump/Russia is "fake" is gaslighting.

What is known is that Russia interfered.

And that Russian agents and multiple Trump associates went to prison for this interference, and for the Trump team's efforts to obstruct the investigation into it.

And that Trump during his term was so obviously and oddly enraptured with communist oligarchs.

Leave the word "collusion" out of the conversation since it obviously triggers the righties.

Can anyone here dispute these facts? Again, leave the word "collusion" out.

If multiple Russian or Chinese agents and multiple Biden close associates had been thrown in prison for interfering or obstructing, and Biden also routinely and openly verbally fellated Russian and Chinese and North Korean leaders, and if the left were acting like these events were fake, the right would have absolute party-wide brain bleed. They'd be in a catatonic stupor they'd be so beside themselves.

Biden is very old for a President, and acts it.

But his associates have not been thrown in prison.

He had not obstructed federal investigations into his potential collusion with foreign adversaries.

He does not fellate genocidal oligarchs.

To argue otherwise is gaslighting of the highest order.
That's because he hasn't left office yet. Once his tame AG is gone, they might be too.

I'm fascinated to see Trump try it if he gets elected.

It will be telling, one way or another.
I see the situation as analogous to Harry Reid breaking the filibuster against judicial nominees. In DC, once you set a precedent, there's no going back. Biden's lawfare against Trump has opened Pandora's box.

By "Pandora's Box," you probably mean "trying to bring cases."

Thing is, you can't bring them without evidence.


Yes they can and did in the current NY case. The accounting issue is a misdemeanor that is past the statute of limitations. The accountant testified that he categorized the payments on his own with no direction from Trump. Bragg is trying to tie it to an unknown/unnamed felony. He is throwing chit at a wall hoping something sticks. Even the Feds decided there was no crime and didn't prosecute.

But go ahead and continue to defend at all costs.
Shouldn't Bragg have specified what the felony was before the trial started? How can the defense attorneys mount a defense if they don't even know what the charges are?



Mind boggling right? That's what they did. The defense wasn't pre-notified of the prosecution witnesses. There were witnesses it was obvious to expect, but not all and no notice of order. They find out as they are going through the trial. The judge is a disgrace to the NY court/legal system.



Yeah he should have recused himself based on his daughter at the beginning. There have already been several reversible errors that will be brought at appeal if/when they get a conviction.
grantwolf
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Werewolf said:

LT and another large brother came up and gave testimony as to becoming R's because of Trump.
LT is a piece of human excrement, but "hey, he's black, so let's trot him out there!"
grantwolf
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Ncsufist said:

packofwolves said:

barelypure said:

packofwolves said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Sorry, but Russian / Trump collusion in 2016 is a farce and has been widely disproven by many reputable reporters.

You can ***** about it, but that puts you in the same category as election deniers in my book

Honestly, anyone who thinks the Trump/Russia stuff is on par with election deniers has had their brain boiled.

The "stolen election" was pulled directly out of Trump's butt, and has been laughed out of every courtroom in the country.

Despite Bill Barr and the media's herculean and very successful effort to sweep the Mueller Report under the rug, it in fact doesn't say what you think it says at all. You just clearly never bothered to look.

The Mueller Report actually documents a sh**load of highly questionable interactions between the Trump Admin and Russia, but points out repeatedly that he encountered so much obstruction that he really couldn't get very far in gathering the high bar of evidence needed for conspiracy charges. You can pretend that means exoneration and that something was "disproven", but over here in the real world you have to be brain dead to not wonder what all that crap was about.

Saying Trump/Russia is "fake" is gaslighting.

What is known is that Russia interfered.

And that Russian agents and multiple Trump associates went to prison for this interference, and for the Trump team's efforts to obstruct the investigation into it.

And that Trump during his term was so obviously and oddly enraptured with communist oligarchs.

Leave the word "collusion" out of the conversation since it obviously triggers the righties.

Can anyone here dispute these facts? Again, leave the word "collusion" out.

If multiple Russian or Chinese agents and multiple Biden close associates had been thrown in prison for interfering or obstructing, and Biden also routinely and openly verbally fellated Russian and Chinese and North Korean leaders, and if the left were acting like these events were fake, the right would have absolute party-wide brain bleed. They'd be in a catatonic stupor they'd be so beside themselves.

Biden is very old for a President, and acts it.

But his associates have not been thrown in prison.

He had not obstructed federal investigations into his potential collusion with foreign adversaries.

He does not fellate genocidal oligarchs.

To argue otherwise is gaslighting of the highest order.
That's because he hasn't left office yet. Once his tame AG is gone, they might be too.

I'm fascinated to see Trump try it if he gets elected.

It will be telling, one way or another.
I see the situation as analogous to Harry Reid breaking the filibuster against judicial nominees. In DC, once you set a precedent, there's no going back. Biden's lawfare against Trump has opened Pandora's box.

By "Pandora's Box," you probably mean "trying to bring cases."

Thing is, you can't bring them without evidence.


Yes they can and did in the current NY case. The accounting issue is a misdemeanor that is past the statute of limitations. The accountant testified that he categorized the payments on his own with no direction from Trump. Bragg is trying to tie it to an unknown/unnamed felony. He is throwing chit at a wall hoping something sticks. Even the Feds decided there was no crime and didn't prosecute.

But go ahead and continue to defend at all costs.
Shouldn't Bragg have specified what the felony was before the trial started? How can the defense attorneys mount a defense if they don't even know what the charges are?



Mind boggling right? That's what they did. The defense wasn't pre-notified of the prosecution witnesses. There were witnesses it was obvious to expect, but not all and no notice of order. They find out as they are going through the trial. The judge is a disgrace to the NY court/legal system.



Yeah he should have recused himself based on his daughter at the beginning. There have already been several reversible errors that will be brought at appeal if/when they get a conviction.
Do you think a judge's adult daughter has more influence on his rulings than a judge's wife?
packgrad
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grantwolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Sieve, where r ya bro? Did you hear that? The largest political gathering in the history of New Jersey!! #MAGA
And you lapped up this garbage without a bit of verifying, didn't you?

A space advertised as accommodating 20k people was at less than half capacity.
And you lapped up this garbage without a bit of verifying, didn't you?
grantwolf
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packgrad said:

grantwolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Sieve, where r ya bro? Did you hear that? The largest political gathering in the history of New Jersey!! #MAGA
And you lapped up this garbage without a bit of verifying, didn't you?

A space advertised as accommodating 20k people was at less than half capacity.
And you lapped up this garbage without a bit of verifying, didn't you?
Link to article

"The area will have a capacity of 20,000 for the event."


grantwolf
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packgrad
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grantwolf said:

packgrad said:

grantwolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Sieve, where r ya bro? Did you hear that? The largest political gathering in the history of New Jersey!! #MAGA
And you lapped up this garbage without a bit of verifying, didn't you?

A space advertised as accommodating 20k people was at less than half capacity.
And you lapped up this garbage without a bit of verifying, didn't you?
Link to article

"The area will have a capacity of 20,000 for the event."





You realize there are probably at least half a dozen other articles contradicting yours right? What makes yours the truth?

And lol at the pic.
grantwolf
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packgrad said:

grantwolf said:

packgrad said:

grantwolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Sieve, where r ya bro? Did you hear that? The largest political gathering in the history of New Jersey!! #MAGA
And you lapped up this garbage without a bit of verifying, didn't you?

A space advertised as accommodating 20k people was at less than half capacity.
And you lapped up this garbage without a bit of verifying, didn't you?
Link to article

"The area will have a capacity of 20,000 for the event."





You realize there are probably at least half a dozen other articles contradicting yours right? What makes yours the truth?

And lol at the pic.
I agree that there is a lot of lazy journalism that will simply regurgitate what other sources say, but even the most superficial look into the numbers shows the 100k figure to be simply absurd. When MAGAts tried to prove it with pictures, they reached for fake images from historic concerts and other countries....
grantwolf
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packgrad said:

grantwolf said:

packgrad said:

grantwolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Sieve, where r ya bro? Did you hear that? The largest political gathering in the history of New Jersey!! #MAGA
And you lapped up this garbage without a bit of verifying, didn't you?

A space advertised as accommodating 20k people was at less than half capacity.
And you lapped up this garbage without a bit of verifying, didn't you?
Link to article

"The area will have a capacity of 20,000 for the event."





You realize there are probably at least half a dozen other articles contradicting yours right? What makes yours the truth?

And lol at the pic.
Even Roger Stone now admits that he was "just kidding" about 100k people:

liberals have no sense of humor
Civilized
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barelypure said:

packofwolves said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Sorry, but Russian / Trump collusion in 2016 is a farce and has been widely disproven by many reputable reporters.

You can ***** about it, but that puts you in the same category as election deniers in my book

Honestly, anyone who thinks the Trump/Russia stuff is on par with election deniers has had their brain boiled.

The "stolen election" was pulled directly out of Trump's butt, and has been laughed out of every courtroom in the country.

Despite Bill Barr and the media's herculean and very successful effort to sweep the Mueller Report under the rug, it in fact doesn't say what you think it says at all. You just clearly never bothered to look.

The Mueller Report actually documents a sh**load of highly questionable interactions between the Trump Admin and Russia, but points out repeatedly that he encountered so much obstruction that he really couldn't get very far in gathering the high bar of evidence needed for conspiracy charges. You can pretend that means exoneration and that something was "disproven", but over here in the real world you have to be brain dead to not wonder what all that crap was about.

Saying Trump/Russia is "fake" is gaslighting.

What is known is that Russia interfered.

And that Russian agents and multiple Trump associates went to prison for this interference, and for the Trump team's efforts to obstruct the investigation into it.

And that Trump during his term was so obviously and oddly enraptured with communist oligarchs.

Leave the word "collusion" out of the conversation since it obviously triggers the righties.

Can anyone here dispute these facts? Again, leave the word "collusion" out.

If multiple Russian or Chinese agents and multiple Biden close associates had been thrown in prison for interfering or obstructing, and Biden also routinely and openly verbally fellated Russian and Chinese and North Korean leaders, and if the left were acting like these events were fake, the right would have absolute party-wide brain bleed. They'd be in a catatonic stupor they'd be so beside themselves.

Biden is very old for a President, and acts it.

But his associates have not been thrown in prison.

He had not obstructed federal investigations into his potential collusion with foreign adversaries.

He does not fellate genocidal oligarchs.

To argue otherwise is gaslighting of the highest order.
That's because he hasn't left office yet. Once his tame AG is gone, they might be too.

I'm fascinated to see Trump try it if he gets elected.

It will be telling, one way or another.
I see the situation as analogous to Harry Reid breaking the filibuster against judicial nominees. In DC, once you set a precedent, there's no going back. Biden's lawfare against Trump has opened Pandora's box.

By "Pandora's Box," you probably mean "trying to bring cases."

Thing is, you can't bring them without evidence.


Yes they can and did in the current NY case. The accounting issue is a misdemeanor that is past the statute of limitations. The accountant testified that he categorized the payments on his own with no direction from Trump. Bragg is trying to tie it to an unknown/unnamed felony. He is throwing chit at a wall hoping something sticks. Even the Feds decided there was no crime and didn't prosecute.

But go ahead and continue to defend at all costs.
Shouldn't Bragg have specified what the felony was before the trial started? How can the defense attorneys mount a defense if they don't even know what the charges are?


Wouldn't the defense team have brought this up to the judge?

When they did, what did the judge say?
Civilized
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grantwolf said:

packgrad said:

grantwolf said:

packgrad said:

grantwolf said:

Werewolf said:

#Sieve, where r ya bro? Did you hear that? The largest political gathering in the history of New Jersey!! #MAGA
And you lapped up this garbage without a bit of verifying, didn't you?

A space advertised as accommodating 20k people was at less than half capacity.
And you lapped up this garbage without a bit of verifying, didn't you?
Link to article

"The area will have a capacity of 20,000 for the event."





You realize there are probably at least half a dozen other articles contradicting yours right? What makes yours the truth?

And lol at the pic.
Even Roger Stone now admits that he was "just kidding" about 100k people:

liberals have no sense of humor

LOL, sure you were, Roger.

Just like Kellyanne Conway was kidding about Trump's inaugural crowd and "alternative facts."
BBW12OG
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So you want to talk about "misinformation" and "sources?"

How about explaining this.....







The official count from the rally was 80k+.... confirmed.

Now explain to me why a grown man is showering with his daughter.

You and the rest of your pedos can try and deflect your way out of this one. You do and you are as sick of a pervert as your leader.
BBW12OG
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Here's more of for you pedophile supporting losers.....







SHE sent the SIGNED letter CONFIRMING the diary was hers.

If the passages were not true and why hasn't she released a statement disputing them and saying they were false or made up?

You pedophile loving clowns own this. Says a hell of a lot about who you are and your characters.

But we already knew that didn't we?
grantwolf
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BBW12OG said:



The official count from the rally was 80k+.... confirmed.


"Official count".

Ah yes. UNC uses "official counts" of their football attendance as well.

We all know Trump and his campaign well enough to know that if there were 100k people at this event, there's be easily verifiable drone shot of the crowd, and it would be all over social media. Alas, the only drone shot of the even shows something closer to 10k than 100k.
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Absolutely disgusting
Werewolf
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grantwolf said:

BBW12OG said:



The official count from the rally was 80k+.... confirmed.


"Official count".

Ah yes. UNC uses "official counts" of their football attendance as well.

We all know Trump and his campaign well enough to know that if there were 100k people at this event, there's be easily verifiable drone shot of the crowd, and it would be all over social media. Alas, the only drone shot of the even shows something closer to 10k than 100k.
Jealous and can't handle it.

What's been the count at a Biden event? 25-50 people, and paid to be there?
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
packofwolves
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Interesting how the DNC and Clinton were treated for an obvious campaign related charge on the books. The dossier was clearly created to damage Trump's chances in 2016. Hmmmm, was not treated like election interference and resulted in only a fine. There is clearly a different standard of Justice for Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/clinton-dnc-steele-dossier-fusion-gps/index.html
grantwolf
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Werewolf said:

grantwolf said:

BBW12OG said:



The official count from the rally was 80k+.... confirmed.


"Official count".

Ah yes. UNC uses "official counts" of their football attendance as well.

We all know Trump and his campaign well enough to know that if there were 100k people at this event, there's be easily verifiable drone shot of the crowd, and it would be all over social media. Alas, the only drone shot of the even shows something closer to 10k than 100k.
Jealous and can't handle it.

What's been the count at a Biden event? 25-50 people, and paid to be there?
Trump has a cult following. Biden does not. People don't fly Biden flags, wear Biden hats en mass, or plaster their cars with his bumper stickers....they just vote for him in greater numbers than those voting for Trump.


BBW12OG
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grantwolf said:

BBW12OG said:



The official count from the rally was 80k+.... confirmed.


"Official count".

Ah yes. UNC uses "official counts" of their football attendance as well.

We all know Trump and his campaign well enough to know that if there were 100k people at this event, there's be easily verifiable drone shot of the crowd, and it would be all over social media. Alas, the only drone shot of the even shows something closer to 10k than 100k.
Whether it was 20k or 80k I could give a damn....

My question for you is why are you ignoring the fact that you support a pedophile?

You want to discuss that?

You lefties are something else..... chicken sheeyat lowlifes.
packofwolves
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grantwolf said:

Werewolf said:

grantwolf said:

BBW12OG said:



The official count from the rally was 80k+.... confirmed.


"Official count".

Ah yes. UNC uses "official counts" of their football attendance as well.

We all know Trump and his campaign well enough to know that if there were 100k people at this event, there's be easily verifiable drone shot of the crowd, and it would be all over social media. Alas, the only drone shot of the even shows something closer to 10k than 100k.
Jealous and can't handle it.

What's been the count at a Biden event? 25-50 people, and paid to be there?
Trump has a cult following. Biden does not. People don't fly Biden flags, wear Biden hats en mass, or plaster their cars with his bumper stickers....they just vote for him in greater numbers than those voting for Trump.




Illegal immigrants have been seen wearing Biden shirts

.
BBW12OG
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grantwolf said:

Werewolf said:

grantwolf said:

BBW12OG said:



The official count from the rally was 80k+.... confirmed.


"Official count".

Ah yes. UNC uses "official counts" of their football attendance as well.

We all know Trump and his campaign well enough to know that if there were 100k people at this event, there's be easily verifiable drone shot of the crowd, and it would be all over social media. Alas, the only drone shot of the even shows something closer to 10k than 100k.
Jealous and can't handle it.

What's been the count at a Biden event? 25-50 people, and paid to be there?
Trump has a cult following. Biden does not. People don't fly Biden flags, wear Biden hats en mass, or plaster their cars with his bumper stickers....they just vote for him in greater numbers than those voting for Trump.



Jealous?

You want to talk about a "cult.."

Supporting a pedophile, who by the way his own kids and other family members refer to as "Pedo Pete," has been confirmed to shower with his daughter who thought it was inappropriate.

Keep supporting him you lowlife pedophile supporter.

grantwolf
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BBW12OG said:

grantwolf said:

Werewolf said:

grantwolf said:

BBW12OG said:



The official count from the rally was 80k+.... confirmed.


"Official count".

Ah yes. UNC uses "official counts" of their football attendance as well.

We all know Trump and his campaign well enough to know that if there were 100k people at this event, there's be easily verifiable drone shot of the crowd, and it would be all over social media. Alas, the only drone shot of the even shows something closer to 10k than 100k.
Jealous and can't handle it.

What's been the count at a Biden event? 25-50 people, and paid to be there?
Trump has a cult following. Biden does not. People don't fly Biden flags, wear Biden hats en mass, or plaster their cars with his bumper stickers....they just vote for him in greater numbers than those voting for Trump.



Jealous?

You want to talk about a "cult.."

Supporting a pedophile, who by the way his own kids and other family members refer to as "Pedo Pete," has been confirmed to shower with his daughter who thought it was inappropriate.

Keep supporting him you lowlife pedophile supporter.


Look, I know the veracity with which you vet your sources, so I'm not going to assume that a random picture that someone claims is from her diary is actually an un-doctored picture of the diary. Her diary was clearly stolen (and sold to right wing propagandists).

In her own words, "The defendant's actions have created a constant environment of anxiety, fear, and intimidation in which my innermost thoughts are constantly distorted and manipulated".

"Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love".

I feel like she's specifically talking to you on this one.
BBW12OG
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So you are saying the facts posted on various sources aren't to be believed because of the sources delivering them?

Are you saying that the diary is real but "misinterpreted?"

She has NEVER said that at all. NEVER.

You are a pedophile supporter and that is one FACT that is not in dispute.

Would you agree that "Snopes" is not a friend of Conservatives and never has been?

And the left has used this as a "fact checking" source for years correct?

Well.... put this in your pedo-loving pipe and smoke it.

You are showing the board who you are and it is not a good look.



Here is simple solution to the issue would you agree?

grantwolf
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BBW12OG said:

So you are saying the facts posted on various sources aren't to be believed because of the sources delivering them?

Are you saying that the diary is real but "misinterpreted?"

She has NEVER said that at all. NEVER.

Not being an expert on the subject, I'm saying that there was clearly a diary of hers that was stolen and sold to people with political motivation to use against Biden. I do not know if she has ever addressed the validity of specific pages posted on the internet.

If I had her entire un-doctored diary to read on my own, I'd be able to form an opinion on her relationship with her father, and whether or not it was appropriate. But I'm certainly not going to trust the people peddling it on Twitter. Just like I wasn't willing to believe anything people claimed were on Hunter's laptop.

This was an odd tangent from the Trump crowd exaggeration though (on a Trump thread), so at least you've managed to steer the conversation.
grantwolf
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And LOL at Joel Mananaro's blathering.

Should Trump come out and address Stormy Daniels' claim that Trump said "You remind me of my daughter" before he had sex with the porn star?

BBW12OG
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Again with the deflection......

So you have no issues at all with a grown man showering with his daughter.

Good to know.

As long as he supports your leftist ideology it is OK that his daughter had to wait until the middle of the night to shower to feel safe.

Disregard all the posts.

Here is my question.

IF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THEN WHY HAS SHE NOT COME OUT WITH A STATEMENT SAYING THAT?

  • diary was found at a friend of hers house
  • diary was found to be Ashley Bidens'
  • diary had creepy/could be criminal activity by her father
  • her father is referred to as PEDO PETE by his family
  • he is listed as PEDO PETE in his crackhead son's phone
  • he has a history of acting at best "inappropriately" around young female children and women in general and has for decades
  • there are countless videos of him making crude and sexual comments to children
  • there are videos of other Senators moving their kids away from him, moving his hands away from them

If this came out against President Trump you and your pedo-supporting pals would be all over it.

But since he has that magic "D" beside his name you are glossing over it and refusing to acknowledge it.

People like you and your ilk deserve whatever is coming to you. And it is going to be pleasant to watch.







Since this is typical of people like you I guess you are supportive of "minor attracted persons" correct?

You and the party you support are sick.
Ncsufist
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grantwolf said:

Ncsufist said:

packofwolves said:

barelypure said:

packofwolves said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Sorry, but Russian / Trump collusion in 2016 is a farce and has been widely disproven by many reputable reporters.

You can ***** about it, but that puts you in the same category as election deniers in my book

Honestly, anyone who thinks the Trump/Russia stuff is on par with election deniers has had their brain boiled.

The "stolen election" was pulled directly out of Trump's butt, and has been laughed out of every courtroom in the country.

Despite Bill Barr and the media's herculean and very successful effort to sweep the Mueller Report under the rug, it in fact doesn't say what you think it says at all. You just clearly never bothered to look.

The Mueller Report actually documents a sh**load of highly questionable interactions between the Trump Admin and Russia, but points out repeatedly that he encountered so much obstruction that he really couldn't get very far in gathering the high bar of evidence needed for conspiracy charges. You can pretend that means exoneration and that something was "disproven", but over here in the real world you have to be brain dead to not wonder what all that crap was about.

Saying Trump/Russia is "fake" is gaslighting.

What is known is that Russia interfered.

And that Russian agents and multiple Trump associates went to prison for this interference, and for the Trump team's efforts to obstruct the investigation into it.

And that Trump during his term was so obviously and oddly enraptured with communist oligarchs.

Leave the word "collusion" out of the conversation since it obviously triggers the righties.

Can anyone here dispute these facts? Again, leave the word "collusion" out.

If multiple Russian or Chinese agents and multiple Biden close associates had been thrown in prison for interfering or obstructing, and Biden also routinely and openly verbally fellated Russian and Chinese and North Korean leaders, and if the left were acting like these events were fake, the right would have absolute party-wide brain bleed. They'd be in a catatonic stupor they'd be so beside themselves.

Biden is very old for a President, and acts it.

But his associates have not been thrown in prison.

He had not obstructed federal investigations into his potential collusion with foreign adversaries.

He does not fellate genocidal oligarchs.

To argue otherwise is gaslighting of the highest order.
That's because he hasn't left office yet. Once his tame AG is gone, they might be too.

I'm fascinated to see Trump try it if he gets elected.

It will be telling, one way or another.
I see the situation as analogous to Harry Reid breaking the filibuster against judicial nominees. In DC, once you set a precedent, there's no going back. Biden's lawfare against Trump has opened Pandora's box.

By "Pandora's Box," you probably mean "trying to bring cases."

Thing is, you can't bring them without evidence.


Yes they can and did in the current NY case. The accounting issue is a misdemeanor that is past the statute of limitations. The accountant testified that he categorized the payments on his own with no direction from Trump. Bragg is trying to tie it to an unknown/unnamed felony. He is throwing chit at a wall hoping something sticks. Even the Feds decided there was no crime and didn't prosecute.

But go ahead and continue to defend at all costs.
Shouldn't Bragg have specified what the felony was before the trial started? How can the defense attorneys mount a defense if they don't even know what the charges are?



Mind boggling right? That's what they did. The defense wasn't pre-notified of the prosecution witnesses. There were witnesses it was obvious to expect, but not all and no notice of order. They find out as they are going through the trial. The judge is a disgrace to the NY court/legal system.



Yeah he should have recused himself based on his daughter at the beginning. There have already been several reversible errors that will be brought at appeal if/when they get a conviction.
Do you think a judge's adult daughter has more influence on his rulings than a judge's wife?



According to ny state law he should have based on the 6 degree policy
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Civilized said:

barelypure said:

packofwolves said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Sorry, but Russian / Trump collusion in 2016 is a farce and has been widely disproven by many reputable reporters.

You can ***** about it, but that puts you in the same category as election deniers in my book

Honestly, anyone who thinks the Trump/Russia stuff is on par with election deniers has had their brain boiled.

The "stolen election" was pulled directly out of Trump's butt, and has been laughed out of every courtroom in the country.

Despite Bill Barr and the media's herculean and very successful effort to sweep the Mueller Report under the rug, it in fact doesn't say what you think it says at all. You just clearly never bothered to look.

The Mueller Report actually documents a sh**load of highly questionable interactions between the Trump Admin and Russia, but points out repeatedly that he encountered so much obstruction that he really couldn't get very far in gathering the high bar of evidence needed for conspiracy charges. You can pretend that means exoneration and that something was "disproven", but over here in the real world you have to be brain dead to not wonder what all that crap was about.

Saying Trump/Russia is "fake" is gaslighting.

What is known is that Russia interfered.

And that Russian agents and multiple Trump associates went to prison for this interference, and for the Trump team's efforts to obstruct the investigation into it.

And that Trump during his term was so obviously and oddly enraptured with communist oligarchs.

Leave the word "collusion" out of the conversation since it obviously triggers the righties.

Can anyone here dispute these facts? Again, leave the word "collusion" out.

If multiple Russian or Chinese agents and multiple Biden close associates had been thrown in prison for interfering or obstructing, and Biden also routinely and openly verbally fellated Russian and Chinese and North Korean leaders, and if the left were acting like these events were fake, the right would have absolute party-wide brain bleed. They'd be in a catatonic stupor they'd be so beside themselves.

Biden is very old for a President, and acts it.

But his associates have not been thrown in prison.

He had not obstructed federal investigations into his potential collusion with foreign adversaries.

He does not fellate genocidal oligarchs.

To argue otherwise is gaslighting of the highest order.
That's because he hasn't left office yet. Once his tame AG is gone, they might be too.

I'm fascinated to see Trump try it if he gets elected.

It will be telling, one way or another.
I see the situation as analogous to Harry Reid breaking the filibuster against judicial nominees. In DC, once you set a precedent, there's no going back. Biden's lawfare against Trump has opened Pandora's box.

By "Pandora's Box," you probably mean "trying to bring cases."

Thing is, you can't bring them without evidence.


Yes they can and did in the current NY case. The accounting issue is a misdemeanor that is past the statute of limitations. The accountant testified that he categorized the payments on his own with no direction from Trump. Bragg is trying to tie it to an unknown/unnamed felony. He is throwing chit at a wall hoping something sticks. Even the Feds decided there was no crime and didn't prosecute.

But go ahead and continue to defend at all costs.
Shouldn't Bragg have specified what the felony was before the trial started? How can the defense attorneys mount a defense if they don't even know what the charges are?


Wouldn't the defense team have brought this up to the judge?

When they did, what did the judge say?



I wouldn't until the state rested their case.
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grantwolf said:

BBW12OG said:

grantwolf said:

Werewolf said:

grantwolf said:

BBW12OG said:



The official count from the rally was 80k+.... confirmed.


"Official count".

Ah yes. UNC uses "official counts" of their football attendance as well.

We all know Trump and his campaign well enough to know that if there were 100k people at this event, there's be easily verifiable drone shot of the crowd, and it would be all over social media. Alas, the only drone shot of the even shows something closer to 10k than 100k.
Jealous and can't handle it.

What's been the count at a Biden event? 25-50 people, and paid to be there?
Trump has a cult following. Biden does not. People don't fly Biden flags, wear Biden hats en mass, or plaster their cars with his bumper stickers....they just vote for him in greater numbers than those voting for Trump.



Jealous?

You want to talk about a "cult.."

Supporting a pedophile, who by the way his own kids and other family members refer to as "Pedo Pete," has been confirmed to shower with his daughter who thought it was inappropriate.

Keep supporting him you lowlife pedophile supporter.


Look, I know the veracity with which you vet your sources, so I'm not going to assume that a random picture that someone claims is from her diary is actually an un-doctored picture of the diary. Her diary was clearly stolen (and sold to right wing propagandists).

In her own words, "The defendant's actions have created a constant environment of anxiety, fear, and intimidation in which my innermost thoughts are constantly distorted and manipulated".

"Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love".

I feel like she's specifically talking to you on this one.



It was abandoned property left at a house after Ashley moved out and this girl moved in.
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Ncsufist said:

grantwolf said:

Ncsufist said:

packofwolves said:

barelypure said:

packofwolves said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Sorry, but Russian / Trump collusion in 2016 is a farce and has been widely disproven by many reputable reporters.

You can ***** about it, but that puts you in the same category as election deniers in my book

Honestly, anyone who thinks the Trump/Russia stuff is on par with election deniers has had their brain boiled.

The "stolen election" was pulled directly out of Trump's butt, and has been laughed out of every courtroom in the country.

Despite Bill Barr and the media's herculean and very successful effort to sweep the Mueller Report under the rug, it in fact doesn't say what you think it says at all. You just clearly never bothered to look.

The Mueller Report actually documents a sh**load of highly questionable interactions between the Trump Admin and Russia, but points out repeatedly that he encountered so much obstruction that he really couldn't get very far in gathering the high bar of evidence needed for conspiracy charges. You can pretend that means exoneration and that something was "disproven", but over here in the real world you have to be brain dead to not wonder what all that crap was about.

Saying Trump/Russia is "fake" is gaslighting.

What is known is that Russia interfered.

And that Russian agents and multiple Trump associates went to prison for this interference, and for the Trump team's efforts to obstruct the investigation into it.

And that Trump during his term was so obviously and oddly enraptured with communist oligarchs.

Leave the word "collusion" out of the conversation since it obviously triggers the righties.

Can anyone here dispute these facts? Again, leave the word "collusion" out.

If multiple Russian or Chinese agents and multiple Biden close associates had been thrown in prison for interfering or obstructing, and Biden also routinely and openly verbally fellated Russian and Chinese and North Korean leaders, and if the left were acting like these events were fake, the right would have absolute party-wide brain bleed. They'd be in a catatonic stupor they'd be so beside themselves.

Biden is very old for a President, and acts it.

But his associates have not been thrown in prison.

He had not obstructed federal investigations into his potential collusion with foreign adversaries.

He does not fellate genocidal oligarchs.

To argue otherwise is gaslighting of the highest order.
That's because he hasn't left office yet. Once his tame AG is gone, they might be too.

I'm fascinated to see Trump try it if he gets elected.

It will be telling, one way or another.
I see the situation as analogous to Harry Reid breaking the filibuster against judicial nominees. In DC, once you set a precedent, there's no going back. Biden's lawfare against Trump has opened Pandora's box.

By "Pandora's Box," you probably mean "trying to bring cases."

Thing is, you can't bring them without evidence.


Yes they can and did in the current NY case. The accounting issue is a misdemeanor that is past the statute of limitations. The accountant testified that he categorized the payments on his own with no direction from Trump. Bragg is trying to tie it to an unknown/unnamed felony. He is throwing chit at a wall hoping something sticks. Even the Feds decided there was no crime and didn't prosecute.

But go ahead and continue to defend at all costs.
Shouldn't Bragg have specified what the felony was before the trial started? How can the defense attorneys mount a defense if they don't even know what the charges are?



Mind boggling right? That's what they did. The defense wasn't pre-notified of the prosecution witnesses. There were witnesses it was obvious to expect, but not all and no notice of order. They find out as they are going through the trial. The judge is a disgrace to the NY court/legal system.



Yeah he should have recused himself based on his daughter at the beginning. There have already been several reversible errors that will be brought at appeal if/when they get a conviction.
Do you think a judge's adult daughter has more influence on his rulings than a judge's wife?



According to ny state law he should have based on the 6 degree policy
You mean this one Fist?

https://ww2.nycourts.gov/rules/chiefadmin/100.shtml

Wonder why in the world a Judge, whose daughter is making millions off of candidates who are utilizing negative press about President Trump, makes disparaging remarks across all forms of media about President Trump would not be affected by this law that is clearly on the books and active no recuse himself?

It definitely is "whack a lefty" day on IPS.....

I guess when I pointed out to them that they are supporting a pedophile they started bleaching their hard drives....

I have always heard "birds of a feather...."
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BBW12OG said:

Ncsufist said:

grantwolf said:

Ncsufist said:

packofwolves said:

barelypure said:

packofwolves said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Sorry, but Russian / Trump collusion in 2016 is a farce and has been widely disproven by many reputable reporters.

You can ***** about it, but that puts you in the same category as election deniers in my book

Honestly, anyone who thinks the Trump/Russia stuff is on par with election deniers has had their brain boiled.

The "stolen election" was pulled directly out of Trump's butt, and has been laughed out of every courtroom in the country.

Despite Bill Barr and the media's herculean and very successful effort to sweep the Mueller Report under the rug, it in fact doesn't say what you think it says at all. You just clearly never bothered to look.

The Mueller Report actually documents a sh**load of highly questionable interactions between the Trump Admin and Russia, but points out repeatedly that he encountered so much obstruction that he really couldn't get very far in gathering the high bar of evidence needed for conspiracy charges. You can pretend that means exoneration and that something was "disproven", but over here in the real world you have to be brain dead to not wonder what all that crap was about.

Saying Trump/Russia is "fake" is gaslighting.

What is known is that Russia interfered.

And that Russian agents and multiple Trump associates went to prison for this interference, and for the Trump team's efforts to obstruct the investigation into it.

And that Trump during his term was so obviously and oddly enraptured with communist oligarchs.

Leave the word "collusion" out of the conversation since it obviously triggers the righties.

Can anyone here dispute these facts? Again, leave the word "collusion" out.

If multiple Russian or Chinese agents and multiple Biden close associates had been thrown in prison for interfering or obstructing, and Biden also routinely and openly verbally fellated Russian and Chinese and North Korean leaders, and if the left were acting like these events were fake, the right would have absolute party-wide brain bleed. They'd be in a catatonic stupor they'd be so beside themselves.

Biden is very old for a President, and acts it.

But his associates have not been thrown in prison.

He had not obstructed federal investigations into his potential collusion with foreign adversaries.

He does not fellate genocidal oligarchs.

To argue otherwise is gaslighting of the highest order.
That's because he hasn't left office yet. Once his tame AG is gone, they might be too.

I'm fascinated to see Trump try it if he gets elected.

It will be telling, one way or another.
I see the situation as analogous to Harry Reid breaking the filibuster against judicial nominees. In DC, once you set a precedent, there's no going back. Biden's lawfare against Trump has opened Pandora's box.

By "Pandora's Box," you probably mean "trying to bring cases."

Thing is, you can't bring them without evidence.


Yes they can and did in the current NY case. The accounting issue is a misdemeanor that is past the statute of limitations. The accountant testified that he categorized the payments on his own with no direction from Trump. Bragg is trying to tie it to an unknown/unnamed felony. He is throwing chit at a wall hoping something sticks. Even the Feds decided there was no crime and didn't prosecute.

But go ahead and continue to defend at all costs.
Shouldn't Bragg have specified what the felony was before the trial started? How can the defense attorneys mount a defense if they don't even know what the charges are?



Mind boggling right? That's what they did. The defense wasn't pre-notified of the prosecution witnesses. There were witnesses it was obvious to expect, but not all and no notice of order. They find out as they are going through the trial. The judge is a disgrace to the NY court/legal system.



Yeah he should have recused himself based on his daughter at the beginning. There have already been several reversible errors that will be brought at appeal if/when they get a conviction.
Do you think a judge's adult daughter has more influence on his rulings than a judge's wife?



According to ny state law he should have based on the 6 degree policy
You mean this one Fist?

https://ww2.nycourts.gov/rules/chiefadmin/100.shtml

Wonder why in the world a Judge, whose daughter is making millions off of candidates who are utilizing negative press about President Trump, makes disparaging remarks across all forms of media about President Trump would not be affected by this law that is clearly on the books and active no recuse himself?

It definitely is "whack a lefty" day on IPS.....

I guess when I pointed out to them that they are supporting a pedophile they started bleaching their hard drives....

I have always heard "birds of a feather...."



Yes that one. Thanks. I'm too lazy to post links.
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Notice that we have crickets chirping.....???
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Ncsufist said:

grantwolf said:

BBW12OG said:

grantwolf said:

Werewolf said:

grantwolf said:

BBW12OG said:



The official count from the rally was 80k+.... confirmed.


"Official count".

Ah yes. UNC uses "official counts" of their football attendance as well.

We all know Trump and his campaign well enough to know that if there were 100k people at this event, there's be easily verifiable drone shot of the crowd, and it would be all over social media. Alas, the only drone shot of the even shows something closer to 10k than 100k.
Jealous and can't handle it.

What's been the count at a Biden event? 25-50 people, and paid to be there?
Trump has a cult following. Biden does not. People don't fly Biden flags, wear Biden hats en mass, or plaster their cars with his bumper stickers....they just vote for him in greater numbers than those voting for Trump.



Jealous?

You want to talk about a "cult.."

Supporting a pedophile, who by the way his own kids and other family members refer to as "Pedo Pete," has been confirmed to shower with his daughter who thought it was inappropriate.

Keep supporting him you lowlife pedophile supporter.


Look, I know the veracity with which you vet your sources, so I'm not going to assume that a random picture that someone claims is from her diary is actually an un-doctored picture of the diary. Her diary was clearly stolen (and sold to right wing propagandists).

In her own words, "The defendant's actions have created a constant environment of anxiety, fear, and intimidation in which my innermost thoughts are constantly distorted and manipulated".

"Repeatedly, I hear others grossly misinterpret my once-private writings and lob false accusations that defame my character and those of the people I love".

I feel like she's specifically talking to you on this one.



It was abandoned property left at a house after Ashley moved out and this girl moved in.


Does the woman currently in prison for stealing the diary know that?
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