caryking said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Yesterday, our Supply Chain team did an impact study of tariffs on the company. The presentation was very extensive, without a political agenda.

The bad news:

The importer, that helps us process our goods, gave us new news on a large category of products that will have an effect. Initially, we didn't think this was going to happen; however, after the thorough review, we will be impacted.

We don't have a plan yet.

The interesting news:

They were able to break down all the impacts of the Tariffs and provide us with the what, where, how, and why. What I noticed, from this presentation, was the targeted and specific rational for all the tariffs.

My statement is not to pursued people in to liking the tariffs; rather, to learn more about the tariffs before speaking about them. Meaning, too many people are saying things like: Trump is just throwing tariffs out in a Willy nilly manner, without any plan.

You may not like them; however, to criticize how they are being distributed is being very naive.. I saw a clear plan of attack with these tariffs, to satisfy his agenda.

Again, this presentation didn't speak from a political perspective; rather, from a factual one…. As you know, I support the tariffs and was able to see clearly the plan.

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Care to elaborate on this plan of attack that you've seen so clearly?

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Go read for yourself…

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Generally thoughtful post Cary. And interesting regarding impacts to stitch.

The administration has to own the public not understanding and for the most part, doubting highly rational bases for tariff determinations, for two reasons.

One, much of their early public communication regarding tariff rates was clearly nonsensical and conflating trade deficits and tariffs, which are apples and peanuts. Not only was it wrong, but it was so wrong and so public that that clearly hampers trust in their ability to rationally analyze and deploy Tariffs subsequently.

Second, aside from that initial blast of communication the administration has had significant opportunity, but has done almost nothing in the way of, clearly and coherently explaining to the American people what the basis for the tariffs and specific tariff rates and policies are.

That's their job, both to govern and communicate effectively regarding that governance.

Civilized said:

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Werewolf said:

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communicating effectively is very important, #Sieve. LOL, you are so full of *****

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Biden's lack of cogency is a big part of why he's not in office anymore. Right?

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You said he was cogent before when he very clearly wasn't, right? You said it was just a stutter when it very clearly wasn't, right? You tried to compare Trump's cogency to Biden before, right? You don't believe in telling the truth, civ. You're mentally ill or a compulsive liar. There is NO comparison between the two, but mentally ill people try to say there is.

Lunacy.

Civilized said:

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Werewolf said:

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communicating effectively is very important, #Sieve. LOL, you are so full of *****

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Biden's lack of cogency is a big part of why he's not in office anymore. Right?

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Not if you had anything to do with it.

Civilized said:

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packgrad said:

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Civilized said:

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Werewolf said:

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communicating effectively is very important, #Sieve. LOL, you are so full of *****

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Biden's lack of cogency is a big part of why he's not in office anymore. Right?

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You said he was cogent before when he very clearly wasn't, right? You said it was just a stutter when it very clearly wasn't, right? You tried to compare Trump's cogency to Biden before, right? You don't believe in telling the truth, civ. You're mentally ill or a compulsive liar. There is NO comparison between the two, but mentally ill people try to say there is.

Lunacy.

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There you go with the mentally ill blasts again.

Why do you continue being so angry and attacking posters on a message board that don't do the same to you?

It's pointless to ask you to acknowledge the nuance in what I say, because you either can't or won't, but for the fiftieth time I didn't make Biden out to be some Mensa member or say he was perfectly clear.

I said he wasn't a drooling invalid like all the hyperventilating on here would have had you think.

I also said very clearly on here, years ago and repeatedly, that he was not fit to be President again. Do I need to go find those posts of mine?

You realize there's a range of outcomes between "sharp as a tack" and "drooling invalid," right?

The thing you don't seem to be willing or able to acknowledge is that neither Biden NOR Trump are fit to be President based on some combination of health, intent, and ability. Biden's health grew worse than Trump's but both are far too old; Trump's health is very clearly not good at all, and he speaks in nonsense gibberish nearly all the time - but there are other determinants too.

Biden was in poorer cognitive health but both are too old, and Biden also isn't guilty of the litany of violations of laws and norms Trump is, and he doesn't **** all over our allies, or try to overthrow a free election, or increase the deficit so he can give tax breaks to his rich buddies, or illegally weild the power of the purse, or conduct himself personally in ways that are totally out of bounds, or...

But he didn't do a good enough job with immigration, and he was probably woke, or something so at least Trump has that over him.

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Your "litany of violations" are mostly TDS fueled hysteria and regurgitated CNN talking points. You really need some new material.

Civilized said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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packgrad said:

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Civilized said:

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Werewolf said:

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communicating effectively is very important, #Sieve. LOL, you are so full of *****

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Biden's lack of cogency is a big part of why he's not in office anymore. Right?

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You said he was cogent before when he very clearly wasn't, right? You said it was just a stutter when it very clearly wasn't, right? You tried to compare Trump's cogency to Biden before, right? You don't believe in telling the truth, civ. You're mentally ill or a compulsive liar. There is NO comparison between the two, but mentally ill people try to say there is.

Lunacy.

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There you go with the mentally ill blasts again.

Why do you continue being so angry and attacking posters on a message board that don't do the same to you?

It's pointless to ask you to acknowledge the nuance in what I say, because you either can't or won't, but for the fiftieth time I didn't make Biden out to be some Mensa member or say he was perfectly clear.

I said he wasn't a drooling invalid like all the hyperventilating on here would have had you think.

I also said very clearly on here, years ago and repeatedly, that he was not fit to be President again. Do I need to go find those posts of mine?

You realize there's a range of outcomes between "sharp as a tack" and "drooling invalid," right?

The thing you don't seem to be willing or able to acknowledge is that neither Biden NOR Trump are fit to be President based on some combination of health, intent, and ability. Biden's health grew worse than Trump's but both are far too old; Trump's health is very clearly not good at all, and he speaks in nonsense gibberish nearly all the time - but there are other determinants too.

Biden was in poorer cognitive health but both are too old, and Biden also isn't guilty of the litany of violations of laws and norms Trump is, and he doesn't **** all over our allies, or try to overthrow a free election, or increase the deficit so he can give tax breaks to his rich buddies, or illegally weild the power of the purse, or conduct himself personally in ways that are totally out of bounds, or...

But he didn't do a good enough job with immigration, and he was probably woke, or something so at least Trump has that over him.

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Your "litany of violations" are mostly TDS fueled hysteria and regurgitated CNN talking points. You really need some new material.

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Just start from the top.

Was January 6 "TDS-fueled hysteria and regurgitated CNN talking points?"

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Yes. It is overblown. It was not worse than Pearl Harbor. It was not almost the end of our democracy. It was 500 people who broke the law and many went to jail.

And remember when you said Trump was going to jail?

And said it over, and over and over again?

Then….. you said he'd NEVER be elected POTUS again just like the useless waste of space mooching off mommy and daddy Hokie said.

Remember that?

You both deserve each other. You two are nothing but the epitome of what is wrong with America.

You have all the answers and contribute NOTHING to society.

But yet you are quick to claim "victim hood!"

Maybe you can get your mommy to comfort you like the useless twat Pinocchio does….

Civilized said:

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packgrad said:

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Civilized said:

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Werewolf said:

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communicating effectively is very important, #Sieve. LOL, you are so full of *****

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Biden's lack of cogency is a big part of why he's not in office anymore. Right?

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You said he was cogent before when he very clearly wasn't, right? You said it was just a stutter when it very clearly wasn't, right? You tried to compare Trump's cogency to Biden before, right? You don't believe in telling the truth, civ. You're mentally ill or a compulsive liar. There is NO comparison between the two, but mentally ill people try to say there is.

Lunacy.

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There you go with the mentally ill blasts again.

Why do you continue being so angry and attacking posters on a message board that don't do the same to you?

It's pointless to ask you to acknowledge the nuance in what I say, because you either can't or won't, but for the fiftieth time I didn't make Biden out to be some Mensa member or say he was perfectly clear.

I said he wasn't a drooling invalid like all the hyperventilating on here would have had you think.

I also said very clearly on here, years ago and repeatedly, that he was not fit to be President again. Do I need to go find those posts of mine?

You realize there's a range of outcomes between "sharp as a tack" and "drooling invalid," right?

The thing you don't seem to be willing or able to acknowledge is that neither Biden NOR Trump are fit to be President based on some combination of health, intent, and ability. Biden's health grew worse than Trump's but both are far too old; Trump's health is very clearly not good at all, and he speaks in nonsense gibberish nearly all the time - but there are other determinants too.

Biden was in poorer cognitive health but both are too old, and Biden also isn't guilty of the litany of violations of laws and norms Trump is, and he doesn't **** all over our allies, or try to overthrow a free election, or increase the deficit so he can give tax breaks to his rich buddies, or illegally weild the power of the purse, or conduct himself personally in ways that are totally out of bounds, or...

But he didn't do a good enough job with immigration, and he was probably woke, or something so at least Trump has that over him.

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You are mentally ill. Just like trannies. Its not an "attack" to acknowledge what you are. It would be like me claiming victimhood for being called a sharp, good looking stud.

Civilized said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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Civilized said:

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packgrad said:

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Civilized said:

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Werewolf said:

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communicating effectively is very important, #Sieve. LOL, you are so full of *****

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Biden's lack of cogency is a big part of why he's not in office anymore. Right?

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You said he was cogent before when he very clearly wasn't, right? You said it was just a stutter when it very clearly wasn't, right? You tried to compare Trump's cogency to Biden before, right? You don't believe in telling the truth, civ. You're mentally ill or a compulsive liar. There is NO comparison between the two, but mentally ill people try to say there is.

Lunacy.

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There you go with the mentally ill blasts again.

Why do you continue being so angry and attacking posters on a message board that don't do the same to you?

It's pointless to ask you to acknowledge the nuance in what I say, because you either can't or won't, but for the fiftieth time I didn't make Biden out to be some Mensa member or say he was perfectly clear.

I said he wasn't a drooling invalid like all the hyperventilating on here would have had you think.

I also said very clearly on here, years ago and repeatedly, that he was not fit to be President again. Do I need to go find those posts of mine?

You realize there's a range of outcomes between "sharp as a tack" and "drooling invalid," right?

The thing you don't seem to be willing or able to acknowledge is that neither Biden NOR Trump are fit to be President based on some combination of health, intent, and ability. Biden's health grew worse than Trump's but both are far too old; Trump's health is very clearly not good at all, and he speaks in nonsense gibberish nearly all the time - but there are other determinants too.

Biden was in poorer cognitive health but both are too old, and Biden also isn't guilty of the litany of violations of laws and norms Trump is, and he doesn't **** all over our allies, or try to overthrow a free election, or increase the deficit so he can give tax breaks to his rich buddies, or illegally weild the power of the purse, or conduct himself personally in ways that are totally out of bounds, or...

But he didn't do a good enough job with immigration, and he was probably woke, or something so at least Trump has that over him.

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Your "litany of violations" are mostly TDS fueled hysteria and regurgitated CNN talking points. You really need some new material.

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Just start from the top.

Was January 6 "TDS-fueled hysteria and regurgitated CNN talking points?"

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Was it an "insurrection"?

Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Yesterday, our Supply Chain team did an impact study of tariffs on the company. The presentation was very extensive, without a political agenda.

The bad news:

The importer, that helps us process our goods, gave us new news on a large category of products that will have an effect. Initially, we didn't think this was going to happen; however, after the thorough review, we will be impacted.

We don't have a plan yet.

The interesting news:

They were able to break down all the impacts of the Tariffs and provide us with the what, where, how, and why. What I noticed, from this presentation, was the targeted and specific rational for all the tariffs.

My statement is not to pursued people in to liking the tariffs; rather, to learn more about the tariffs before speaking about them. Meaning, too many people are saying things like: Trump is just throwing tariffs out in a Willy nilly manner, without any plan.

You may not like them; however, to criticize how they are being distributed is being very naive.. I saw a clear plan of attack with these tariffs, to satisfy his agenda.

Again, this presentation didn't speak from a political perspective; rather, from a factual one…. As you know, I support the tariffs and was able to see clearly the plan.

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Care to elaborate on this plan of attack that you've seen so clearly?

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Go read for yourself…

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Generally thoughtful post Cary. And interesting regarding impacts to stitch.

The administration has to own the public not understanding and for the most part, doubting highly rational bases for tariff determinations, for two reasons.

One, much of their early public communication regarding tariff rates was clearly nonsensical and conflating trade deficits and tariffs, which are apples and peanuts. Not only was it wrong, but it was so wrong and so public that that clearly hampers trust in their ability to rationally analyze and deploy Tariffs subsequently.

Second, aside from that initial blast of communication the administration has had significant opportunity, but has done almost nothing in the way of, clearly and coherently explaining to the American people what the basis for the tariffs and specific tariff rates and policies are.

That's their job, both to govern and communicate effectively regarding that governance.

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Civ, that answer is exactly what I'm talking about. Listen, this tariff implementation, for 10's of years has been difficult to understand, even for a person that deals in them. The general public wouldn't understand the implementation, even if told. Go research HTC codes and try to discern that. It's not easy!

Now, all of the previous tariff's, in general are still in place, with some modifications. Now, depending on the country Trade deficit, the counties tariff's on our goods, and some geopolitical tariff's, like on Russia, India, and China, and any other countries doing final assembly, of components coming out of China, are all subject to a new tariff.

One example: Golf Bags were all manufactured and assembled in China, prior to 2016. Every brand you could buy, were made in China, including Stitch. A 40% tariff was added to the HTC code that Golf Bags fell under, when using a certain type of fabric make-up (Stitch used that fabric). If a brand used a different fabric make-up, the Golf Bags would fall under a different HTC code (slightly more complicated than that, but hopefully you get the point). This was an increase done in 2017 or 2018. In fact, that increase was never changed, by the Biden Admin. Why? The revenues were good.

So, Stitch started looking for another country to manufacture our Golf Bags, including the US. We found another country (Indonesia); however, that country didn't do any manufacturing; rather, all they did was final assembly. I'm sure you know where the manufacturing is done, right? China. The US doesn't do any manufacturing of the components we need to assemble our Golf Bags, on a scale we need.

Just so you're clear, I wish we could manufacture and assemble our Golf Bags here in the US. As stated, we do not have the manufacturing capabilities to do it here. We could do the final assembly here; however bringing the manufactured components to the US, from say China, would not be cost effective, not because of the final assembly here; rather, the shipping of the components here, from outside the US. We've done this math and it doesn't work.

Now, I don't think Golf Bags manufacturing is of vital national interest to the country, so, we do what we do.

So, what changed for us? Indonesia got hit with new tariffs. That is because of the supply lines for Indonesian assembly being China. China is the animal that Trump appears to want to take down. That, I support!

Now, when I was involved in the presentation of Tariff impacts, the amount and specificity of these new tariffs are clear. Absent a reasonable understanding of tariffs, no one would understand what the heck is going on. Hell, I have more than a reasonable understanding and it's confusing for me. So, I doubt most people would get it at all. It would become entirely too technical.

Civ, I suspect you're smart enough to understand if presented with the information. You may disagree with the "why" it's being done; however, you would understand the "what".

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Ok, I believe too that Trump wants to use tariffs to punish China. Why then are we also slapping tariffs on Canada and Mexico and putting our current US manufacturing and auto industry at a severe disadvantage?

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Hokie, I've asked this question multiple times…

What Country has free trade for our exports? Name one…. Part of the plan are reciprocal, right?

Regarding the illegality, well… as Civ normally says, the courts will figure this out soon enough, right?

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Pinocchio you must have missed the press conference where Sean Fein said the tariffs are bringing auto manufacturing back to the United States.

But I guess being a nepo baby that has never had to work a day in your life and has had EVERYTHING given to you by mommy and daddy you only repeat what you hear on MSNBC and CNN.

I'm sure you'll whine to the mods like you always do but I could give two damns.

You are what's wrong with your generation and a prime example of what happens when parents drop the ball babying their kids.

It's obvious the way you whine and cry on this site.

Spoiled rotten entitled brat that has contributed nothing to society but be born into a family with money.

Be proud. You are a shining example of "the lucky sperm club.."

And people that know you agree 100%.

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BBW, what is your problem man? Honestly.

This post of yours sounds like an unhinged creeper weirdo.

You following hokie around insulting him personally and acting like you're going to doxx him just because you don't like his opinions on a political message board is colossally maladjusted and inappropriate.

I don't understand what you think you're doing. Is this fun for you? Do you feel better after you talk to people this way?

Civilized said:

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BBW12OG said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Ok, I believe too that Trump wants to use tariffs to punish China. Why then are we also slapping tariffs on Canada and Mexico and putting our current US manufacturing and auto industry at a severe disadvantage?

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Hokie, I've asked this question multiple times…

What Country has free trade for our exports? Name one…. Part of the plan are reciprocal, right?

Regarding the illegality, well… as Civ normally says, the courts will figure this out soon enough, right?

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Pinocchio you must have missed the press conference where Sean Fein said the tariffs are bringing auto manufacturing back to the United States.

But I guess being a nepo baby that has never had to work a day in your life and has had EVERYTHING given to you by mommy and daddy you only repeat what you hear on MSNBC and CNN.

I'm sure you'll whine to the mods like you always do but I could give two damns.

You are what's wrong with your generation and a prime example of what happens when parents drop the ball babying their kids.

It's obvious the way you whine and cry on this site.

Spoiled rotten entitled brat that has contributed nothing to society but be born into a family with money.

Be proud. You are a shining example of "the lucky sperm club.."

And people that know you agree 100%.

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BBW, what is your problem man? Honestly.

This post of yours sounds like an unhinged creeper weirdo.

You following hokie around insulting him personally and acting like you're going to doxx him just because you don't like his opinions on a political message board is colossally maladjusted and inappropriate.

I don't understand what you think you're doing. Is this fun for you? Do you feel better after you talk to people this way?

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I'm going to side with Civ on this here occasion. BBW, we are on the same team but very Respectfully, you get to saying too much that is ugly and not nice.

I disagree with hokie sometimes and I disagree with Civ often but they are fine Americans, just like you and me.

Let's try to tone it down just a little (my self included) We don't want to sound like the democrats party with all their hate and anger.

Cheers brother and very much respect.