If the former, he's a little late to the party. That ship sailed with the previous administration.Civilized said:What a sensible person would do in this case is ask someone at the Social Security Administration to explain what these numbers mean. Musk, instead, posts them with zero idea of what they represent, and makes millions of people believe SS is going to millions of dead people. https://t.co/3n6dzVdOlG
— James Surowiecki (@JamesSurowiecki) February 17, 2025
This.
The only reason to behave the way Musk is behaving is because he wants to ruin trust in government/institution and/or has a savior complex. .
If he wanted to engender trust and transparency and effect sensible change he'd audit the information, define the problem, and arrive at a solution prior to breathlessly getting on his megaphone to the world.
Musk is the kid that didn't have friends that wants to be liked/loved/seen as a savior so badly and he doesn't care what collateral damage covering up his insecurities on the world stage causes.
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I know, I know..........it's Alex Jones ;-)
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— Alex Jones (@RealAlexJones) February 17, 2025
You should consider the fact that the far Left communist Establishment (media, Hollywood, etc) uses this demonization of the Germans during WW2 as the justification for all of the horrible policies that they promote -- eg, censorship, mass immigration agenda that is destroying Europe and the Western world.caryking said:
GP, I appreciate you and your commentary. That said, I do have different opinions are several issues. Regarding the Jews, in concentration camps, well... you've lost me.
The pure documentation that I've seen shows the unsavory actions the Hitler regime had towards Jews. Now, I have no idea whether you're anti-semetic or not; however, you are getting labeled because of your post, right or wrong.
I would encourage you to provide alternative information that supports your opinions, and/or theories about the deaths of Jews. For me, everything you are asserting is completed unfounded...
This whole discussion was started because this fake "journalist" hack on CBS, Margaret Brennan, was attacking JD Vance and the Trump administration for defending freedom of speech in Europe -- by demonizing having freedom of speech, saying that having freedom of speech "caused the holocaust".
This has been done now for 80 years since the end of WW2. The communist Left has demonized anyone that opposes their globalist, communist agenda (for mass immigration, censorship of free speech, etc) as a "nazi who supports the holocaust".
This false history about WW2 is being used as a weapon to demonize everyone who opposes their communist, Leftist agenda.
Sounds like there was a referral earlier today.
ARREST AOC RIGHT NOW AND CHARGE HER! pic.twitter.com/C60znhSd3q
— Thomas Prince (@Only1Trickster) February 13, 2025
So this whole discussion of what really happened during WW2 in Germany is not "irrelevant" to the overall discussion of the latest news surrounding Trump.
This was all started because the CBS hack, Margeret Brennan, pulled the "muh holocaust" argument to argue that we shouldn't be able to have freedom of speech - in Europe or anywhere.
When you boil it all down, the main argument of the communist Left is to squeal "muh raycism", "muh white supremacy", and "muh holocaust" to push for their tyrannical, horrific agenda -- of censorship, DEI and "critical race theory" division, unlimited mass third world immigration, etc.
That's all the Left has....3rd grade level demonization of their enemies using name-calling and smear by association.
This was all started because the CBS hack, Margeret Brennan, pulled the "muh holocaust" argument to argue that we shouldn't be able to have freedom of speech - in Europe or anywhere.
When you boil it all down, the main argument of the communist Left is to squeal "muh raycism", "muh white supremacy", and "muh holocaust" to push for their tyrannical, horrific agenda -- of censorship, DEI and "critical race theory" division, unlimited mass third world immigration, etc.
That's all the Left has....3rd grade level demonization of their enemies using name-calling and smear by association.
SmaptyWolf said:You seem to lack the brain cells to put this together. Germany became the Third Reich exactly because Goebbels realized you can yell "FIRE!!!" in a theater over and over and eventually people will go along with anything. Unfortunately the human brain is very easy to hack.packgrad said:
"Cool, so it's all the fault of the allies and not the fact that Germany started the war in the first place. If only we hadn't bombed Germany the holocaust wouldn't have happened!"
Maybe GW is slow playing it to say "HAHA! This is the same logic one can use to justify the gutting of USAID, NIH, IRS, FBI, CIA, securing the border, etc. Without the swamp and endless hidden corrupt back room deals, there probably never would have been Trump as president, and most certainly wouldn't have needed a gutting of these agencies if run properly."
Otherwise I don't know where he's going with this concentration camp argument. That is a new one to me.
Think it's interesting that smapty gets a pass for supporting Nazi like governing from Germany. They had free speech back then too, until Nazis got power. Another example of them calling you what they are perhaps....
You guys have been subjected to an echo chamber of ever increasing "up is down" bullsh** for a couple decades, and now we have a raging MAGA movement goose stepping behind a con man that wants to dismantle America. Of course the people responsible for this propaganda machine attack any effort to combat it by bawling about "free speech".
You are a dip$#*+ of the highest order.
If you yell FRIE in a theater over and over sooner or later people would tune you out knowing it's BS.
Sure Alex Jones is a demonic piece of crap, but I'll never throw out his folk albums.Werewolf said:
I know, I know..........it's Alex Jones ;-)BREAKING! DOGE Discovers USAID Secretly Funnels $4 Billion To Bill Gates Plus Another $880 Million To The World Health Organization That Also Received Over $700 Million! Tune In NOW For Latest Updates! https://t.co/BIs4ggWuQl
— Alex Jones (@RealAlexJones) February 17, 2025
Lol, we've been waiting around for years for you guys to eventually call BS on the increasingly insane crap that you're being fed. But nope, it turns out there isn't a bottom.Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:You seem to lack the brain cells to put this together. Germany became the Third Reich exactly because Goebbels realized you can yell "FIRE!!!" in a theater over and over and eventually people will go along with anything. Unfortunately the human brain is very easy to hack.packgrad said:
"Cool, so it's all the fault of the allies and not the fact that Germany started the war in the first place. If only we hadn't bombed Germany the holocaust wouldn't have happened!"
Maybe GW is slow playing it to say "HAHA! This is the same logic one can use to justify the gutting of USAID, NIH, IRS, FBI, CIA, securing the border, etc. Without the swamp and endless hidden corrupt back room deals, there probably never would have been Trump as president, and most certainly wouldn't have needed a gutting of these agencies if run properly."
Otherwise I don't know where he's going with this concentration camp argument. That is a new one to me.
Think it's interesting that smapty gets a pass for supporting Nazi like governing from Germany. They had free speech back then too, until Nazis got power. Another example of them calling you what they are perhaps....
You guys have been subjected to an echo chamber of ever increasing "up is down" bullsh** for a couple decades, and now we have a raging MAGA movement goose stepping behind a con man that wants to dismantle America. Of course the people responsible for this propaganda machine attack any effort to combat it by bawling about "free speech".
You are a dip$#*+ of the highest order.
If you yell FRIE in a theater over and over sooner or later people would tune you out knowing it's BS.
And now the FBI are the bad guys and our VP is in Germany cheering on their new Nazi party. Sure, why not?
Let's go!
🚨 #BREAKING: Tom Homan says he’s formally requested the DOJ to open up an investigation into AOC for assisting illegals with evading ICE
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) February 17, 2025
MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF HER.
Hindering federal law enforcement activity is a CRIME. pic.twitter.com/5LTaZt5wkS
"I'm 100% an expert on what opinions I have written on this site"
LOL
It must REALLY piss off commie libtards that after all of their attacks on Alex Jones and attempts to censor him and bankrupt and shut him down, and the lawsuits over that shooting psyop, Alex was and is still around going strong, with his show going on uninterrupted the entire time. And actually, he's now bigger and stronger than ever, with a bigger audience and more motivation to fight their commie Leftist agenda.
Alex has played a HUGE role in getting Trump elected two times. They know that. And that's a big part of the reason why they tried to destroy and silence him.
It must REALLY piss off commie libtards that after all of their attacks on Alex Jones and attempts to censor him and bankrupt and shut him down, and the lawsuits over that shooting psyop, Alex was and is still around going strong, with his show going on uninterrupted the entire time. And actually, he's now bigger and stronger than ever, with a bigger audience and more motivation to fight their commie Leftist agenda.
Alex has played a HUGE role in getting Trump elected two times. They know that. And that's a big part of the reason why they tried to destroy and silence him.
Oh yeah, I forgot you think that the shooting up of an elementary school was made up. Yeah, you are a doofus
See. This is the MAIN argument of the Left whenever they are opposed. To hysterically squeal "muh racism" and "muh nazis" and "muh holocaust". Emotional name-calling and smear tactics that have no basis in fact, logic, or reality.SmaptyWolf said:
Lol, we've been waiting around for years for you guys to eventually call BS on the increasingly insane crap that you're being fed. But nope, it turns out there isn't a bottom.
And now the FBI are the bad guys and our VP is in Germany cheering on their new Nazi party. Sure, why not?
The AfD are not "nazis". Why do you say that? Just because they oppose the mass third world immigration that is being used to destroy their country?
This is the crux of the issue. The communist Left will demonize ANYONE (including Trump, MAGA movement, etc) as a "rayciss" and "nazi" just for opposing mass illegal immigration or the agenda of astronomical levels of unlimited third world immigration.
Are sovereign nations not allowed to set their own immigration policies and who gets to come to their nations? Where does this hairbrained idea come from, as argued by the commie Left, that we must accept astronomical levels of Third World immigration for perpetuity?
GuerrillaPack said:
LOL
It must REALLY piss off commie libtards that after all of their attacks on Alex Jones and attempts to censor him and bankrupt and shut him down, and the lawsuits over that shooting psyop, Alex was and is still around going strong, with his show going on uninterrupted the entire time. And actually, he's now bigger and stronger than ever, with a bigger audience and more motivation to fight their commie Leftist agenda.
Alex has played a HUGE role in getting Trump elected two times. They know that. And that's a big part of the reason why they tried to destroy and silence him.
Of course you like Alex Jones. His takes on Sandy Hook caused morons to go after the parents of the kids who were killed. These sickos harassed the parents and he kept at it.
You have no argument, other than silly/lame/desperate/hysterical name-calling.hokiewolf said:
Oh yeah, I forgot you think that the shooting up of an elementary school was made up. Yeah, you are a doofus
That's a complete lie (100% fabricated), as alleged in the lawsuits. The truth is that Jones never called for any "harassment" of anyone related to the psyop. Jones never called for anyone to contact them in any way, much less threaten or act violent in any way against them.wolf5 said:GuerrillaPack said:
LOL
It must REALLY piss off commie libtards that after all of their attacks on Alex Jones and attempts to censor him and bankrupt and shut him down, and the lawsuits over that shooting psyop, Alex was and is still around going strong, with his show going on uninterrupted the entire time. And actually, he's now bigger and stronger than ever, with a bigger audience and more motivation to fight their commie Leftist agenda.
Alex has played a HUGE role in getting Trump elected two times. They know that. And that's a big part of the reason why they tried to destroy and silence him.
Of course you like Alex Jones. His takes on Sandy Hook caused morons to go after the parents of the kids who were killed. These sickos harassed the parents and he kept at it.
It is not "harassment" to express an opinion. The only way you could call it "harassment" is to falsely re-define the legal definition of "harassment" to basically mean "express an opinion I don't like".
Alex Jones's is more trustworthy than the MSM…..and without any debate, MSNBC' and CNN.
Alex Jones reported on the plandemic a dozen years earlier than it actually occurred
Alex Jones reported on the plandemic a dozen years earlier than it actually occurred
GuerrillaPack said:That's a complete lie (100% fabricated), as alleged in the lawsuits. The truth is that Jones never called for any "harassment" of anyone related to the psyop. Jones never called for anyone to contact them in any way, much less threaten or act violent in any way against them.wolf5 said:GuerrillaPack said:
LOL
It must REALLY piss off commie libtards that after all of their attacks on Alex Jones and attempts to censor him and bankrupt and shut him down, and the lawsuits over that shooting psyop, Alex was and is still around going strong, with his show going on uninterrupted the entire time. And actually, he's now bigger and stronger than ever, with a bigger audience and more motivation to fight their commie Leftist agenda.
Alex has played a HUGE role in getting Trump elected two times. They know that. And that's a big part of the reason why they tried to destroy and silence him.
Of course you like Alex Jones. His takes on Sandy Hook caused morons to go after the parents of the kids who were killed. These sickos harassed the parents and he kept at it.
It is not "harassment" to express an opinion. The only way you could call it "harassment" is to totally and falsely re-define "harassment" to basically mean "express an opinion I don't like".
LOL not the hill you want to die on, friend.
Werewolf said:
Alex Jones's is more trustworthy than the MSM…..and without any debate, MSNBC' and CNN.
Alex Jones reported on the plandemic a dozen years earlier than it actually occurred
This might be the dumbest thing you've ever posted.
I won't "die". It's the opposite...if we continue to argue (and elaborate and do a deep dive on Sandy Hook), it is your argument that will die -- as the key role of government-staged shootings and psyops to push for gun bans and gun control is exposed.wolf5 said:GuerrillaPack said:That's a complete lie (100% fabricated), as alleged in the lawsuits. The truth is that Jones never called for any "harassment" of anyone related to the psyop. Jones never called for anyone to contact them in any way, much less threaten or act violent in any way against them.wolf5 said:GuerrillaPack said:
LOL
It must REALLY piss off commie libtards that after all of their attacks on Alex Jones and attempts to censor him and bankrupt and shut him down, and the lawsuits over that shooting psyop, Alex was and is still around going strong, with his show going on uninterrupted the entire time. And actually, he's now bigger and stronger than ever, with a bigger audience and more motivation to fight their commie Leftist agenda.
Alex has played a HUGE role in getting Trump elected two times. They know that. And that's a big part of the reason why they tried to destroy and silence him.
Of course you like Alex Jones. His takes on Sandy Hook caused morons to go after the parents of the kids who were killed. These sickos harassed the parents and he kept at it.
It is not "harassment" to express an opinion. The only way you could call it "harassment" is to totally and falsely re-define "harassment" to basically mean "express an opinion I don't like".
LOL not the hill you want to die on, friend.
not even close to the dumbestwolf5 said:Werewolf said:
Alex Jones's is more trustworthy than the MSM…..and without any debate, MSNBC' and CNN.
Alex Jones reported on the plandemic a dozen years earlier than it actually occurred
This might be the dumbest thing you've ever posted.
maybe all this bad stuff you think didn't happen is because you don't live on round earth.GuerrillaPack said:You have no argument, other than silly/lame/desperate/hysterical name-calling.hokiewolf said:
Oh yeah, I forgot you think that the shooting up of an elementary school was made up. Yeah, you are a doofus
or, they would get up and beat the hell out of the person...Gulfstream4 said:SmaptyWolf said:You seem to lack the brain cells to put this together. Germany became the Third Reich exactly because Goebbels realized you can yell "FIRE!!!" in a theater over and over and eventually people will go along with anything. Unfortunately the human brain is very easy to hack.packgrad said:
"Cool, so it's all the fault of the allies and not the fact that Germany started the war in the first place. If only we hadn't bombed Germany the holocaust wouldn't have happened!"
Maybe GW is slow playing it to say "HAHA! This is the same logic one can use to justify the gutting of USAID, NIH, IRS, FBI, CIA, securing the border, etc. Without the swamp and endless hidden corrupt back room deals, there probably never would have been Trump as president, and most certainly wouldn't have needed a gutting of these agencies if run properly."
Otherwise I don't know where he's going with this concentration camp argument. That is a new one to me.
Think it's interesting that smapty gets a pass for supporting Nazi like governing from Germany. They had free speech back then too, until Nazis got power. Another example of them calling you what they are perhaps....
You guys have been subjected to an echo chamber of ever increasing "up is down" bullsh** for a couple decades, and now we have a raging MAGA movement goose stepping behind a con man that wants to dismantle America. Of course the people responsible for this propaganda machine attack any effort to combat it by bawling about "free speech".
You are a dip$#*+ of the highest order.
If you yell FRIE in a theater over and over sooner or later people would tune you out knowing it's BS.
Assisting the help of illegal immigrants, to avoid Agents, is a crime. Lock her up!!!packgrad said:
Let's go!🚨 #BREAKING: Tom Homan says he’s formally requested the DOJ to open up an investigation into AOC for assisting illegals with evading ICE
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) February 17, 2025
MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF HER.
Hindering federal law enforcement activity is a CRIME. pic.twitter.com/5LTaZt5wkS
The Satanic Marxist Establishment that has ruled our society (Hollywood, Lamestream media, academia, controlling governments, etc) has lied to us and/or pushed INSANE polices on a massive scale about VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING that is of key importance to us - eg, covid scamdemic, JFK assassination, 70 genders, cut your sons ding dong off and your daughters breasts off, take school children to drag queen story time and drag parades, climate change hoax for massive taxation and to deliberately destroy our economy and standard of living, promotion of open border invasion of 30+ million illegals, foundational "science" and "truth" of this Establishment is the PREPOSTEROUS theory of evolution and "Big Bang" nonsense, unborn children are "not human but only a clump of cells" and therefore can be murdered, etc etc etc etc.hokiewolf said:maybe all this bad stuff you think didn't happen is because you don't live on round earth.GuerrillaPack said:You have no argument, other than silly/lame/desperate/hysterical name-calling.hokiewolf said:
Oh yeah, I forgot you think that the shooting up of an elementary school was made up. Yeah, you are a doofus
We live in an upside down world where this Satanic Communist-Leftist Establishment is attempting to invert reality, and is promoting the most bat-chit insane, preposterous things imaginable. Everything they promote is 180 degrees opposite of the truth -- whether it's the false "science" they promote, the false history, the false narratives about even current events, etc.
To sum up the worldview of the Satanic Establishment, the key "foundational truths" they would have you believe is that "God does not exist and you are an evolved monkey clump of cells that can be murdered before you are born, and you need to have your son's ding dong cut off and accept unlimited immigration to destroy your nation or you are a bigot and a racist".
But you think I'm a "crazy conspiracy theorist" to not trust these insane scum of this Establishment, and to allege that they might also be lying about other things? That's cute.
No, the "conspiracy theorists" are the people who are not under a trance, and who still have working brains enough to not trust lying tyrants who are destroying the world.
GuerrillaPack said:The Satanic Marxist Establishment that has ruled our society (Hollywood, Lamestream media, academia, controlling governments, etc) has lied to us and/or pushed INSANE polices on a massive scale about VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING that is of key importance to us - eg, covid scamdemic, JFK assassination, 70 genders, cut your sons ding dong off and your daughters breasts off, take school children to drag queen story time and drag parades, climate change hoax for massive taxation and to deliberately destroy our economy and standard of living, promotion of open border invasion of 30+ million illegals, foundational "science" and "truth" of this Establishment is the PREPOSTEROUS theory of evolution and "Big Bang" nonsense, unborn children are "not human but only a clump of cells" and therefore can be murdered, etc etc etc etc.hokiewolf said:maybe all this bad stuff you think didn't happen is because you don't live on round earth.GuerrillaPack said:You have no argument, other than silly/lame/desperate/hysterical name-calling.hokiewolf said:
Oh yeah, I forgot you think that the shooting up of an elementary school was made up. Yeah, you are a doofus
We live in an upside down world where this Satanic Communist-Leftist Establishment is attempting to invert reality, and is promoting the most bat-chit insane, preposterous things imaginable. Everything they promote is 180 degrees opposite of the truth -- whether it's the false "science" they promote, the false history, the false narratives about even current events, etc.
To sum up the worldview of the Satanic Establishment, the key "foundational truths" they would have you believe is that "God does not exist and you are an evolved monkey clump of cells that can be murdered before you are born, and you need to have your son's ding dong cut off and accept unlimited immigration to destroy your nation or you are a bigot and a racist".
But you think I'm a "crazy conspiracy theorist" to not trust these insane scum of this Establishment, and to allege that they might also be lying about other things? That's cute.
No, the "conspiracy theorists" are the people who are not under a trance, and who still have working brains enough to not trust lying tyrants who are destroying the world.
caryking said:Assisting the help of illegal immigrants, to avoid Agents, is a crime. Lock her up!!!packgrad said:
Let's go!🚨 #BREAKING: Tom Homan says he’s formally requested the DOJ to open up an investigation into AOC for assisting illegals with evading ICE
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) February 17, 2025
MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF HER.
Hindering federal law enforcement activity is a CRIME. pic.twitter.com/5LTaZt5wkS
Yes, please! Definitely pursue this legally.
It will remind you that hoping someone has charges pressed against them, is tried, and is found guilty is much harder then y'all make it out to be.
Advising immigrants or anyone else of their legal rights is not a crime.
A judge would laugh this out of court.
I think Tom Hohman knows a little more about this than you. You can't investigate whether it's water or bourbon in a clear glass.
To be fair though, he just asked them to open an investigation due to her webinar on how to evade ICE. He feels she is breaking the law, but directed professionals to make that decision.
After your support of Europe stifling free speech last week, it doesn't surprise me in the least that you support this as well.
Whatever it takes, right? RESIST!!
lol.
To be fair though, he just asked them to open an investigation due to her webinar on how to evade ICE. He feels she is breaking the law, but directed professionals to make that decision.
After your support of Europe stifling free speech last week, it doesn't surprise me in the least that you support this as well.
Whatever it takes, right? RESIST!!
lol.
"I'm 100% an expert on what opinions I have written on this site"
it seems to be blatant but I don't know the law. But I'm sure nothing happens because nothing ever does anyway. And it doesn't matter, anyway election wise for AOC.packgrad said:
I think Tom Hohman knows a little more about this than you. You can't investigate whether it's water or bourbon in a clear glass.
To be fair though, he just asked them to open an investigation due to her webinar on how to evade ICE. He feels she is breaking the law, but directed professionals to make that decision.
After your support of Europe stifling free speech last week, it doesn't surprise me in the least that you support this as well.
Whatever it takes, right? RESIST!!
lol.
To someone that's completely brainwashed, it might seem that way. ;-)wolf5 said:Werewolf said:
Alex Jones's is more trustworthy than the MSM…..and without any debate, MSNBC' and CNN.
Alex Jones reported on the plandemic a dozen years earlier than it actually occurred
This might be the dumbest thing you've ever posted.
There is only one person than know more than the #Gobbler and that's #Nappy, they'll both tell ya so. Just like when they took multiple jabs over a number of weeks, they had it all figured out.packgrad said:
I think Tom Hohman knows a little more about this than you. You can't investigate whether it's water or bourbon in a clear glass.
To be fair though, he just asked them to open an investigation due to her webinar on how to evade ICE. He feels she is breaking the law, but directed professionals to make that decision.
After your support of Europe stifling free speech last week, it doesn't surprise me in the least that you support this as well.
Whatever it takes, right? RESIST!!
lol.
The REAL reason so many Democrats are upset about entitlements (social security, medical, etc) fraud investigations is that they are using your taxpayer money as handouts to attract and retain ILLEGAL immigrants. Their future voters.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 17, 2025
That’s what it’s all about.
Truth.
GuerrillaPack said:The REAL reason so many Democrats are upset about entitlements (social security, medical, etc) fraud investigations is that they are using your taxpayer money as handouts to attract and retain ILLEGAL immigrants. Their future voters.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 17, 2025
That’s what it’s all about.
Truth.
Yup
You guys swallowing this **** soup from Musk is fascinating. What happened to the truth?
It showed up on my doorstep asking for a place to stay. Said it couldn't take your abuse anymore. :B haha, sorry, couldn't resist.hokiewolf said:
You guys swallowing this **** soup from Musk is fascinating. What happened to the truth?
hokiewolf said:
You guys swallowing this **** soup from Musk is fascinating. What happened to the truth?
Hokie, all I think, is that he is saying something. It may be true, it may not…. At some point, the receipts have to come out.
Now, do I have tendency to believe this? Yes! That said, the receipts have to come…
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