TRUMP 2024

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hokiewolf
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:



All of us have been disconnected from service, because of the system that's been created. It needs changing slowly, but surely.

I believe the research that this country needs and or wants can be funded by the private sector. This can be done by fund raising within a University or a Private Sector PE based business.

As long as these types of funding continue to come out of the Federal Government, you will have, and should have the scrutiny you've seen the last three weeks.


Also, do you consider the blowtorch approach Musk and his acolytes are taking to be "slow but sure change?" Doesn't seem very slow from here.

What we've seen isn't "scrutiny." A lot of folks, including myself, welcome scrutiny.

What we've seen is Ready, Fire, Aim. There's been no good-faith scrutiny. It's just breaking a bunch of **** because you can (or at least, Musk and Trump think they can; courts will likely disabuse them of some of that notion.)
The blowtorch is the deconstruction of the administrative state. Yes, I 100% support it! It's long overdue…

On this, I say… elections have consequences…
They do indeed Cary. You'll see the unintended ones someday I hope.
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packgrad
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hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:



All of us have been disconnected from service, because of the system that's been created. It needs changing slowly, but surely.

I believe the research that this country needs and or wants can be funded by the private sector. This can be done by fund raising within a University or a Private Sector PE based business.

As long as these types of funding continue to come out of the Federal Government, you will have, and should have the scrutiny you've seen the last three weeks.


Also, do you consider the blowtorch approach Musk and his acolytes are taking to be "slow but sure change?" Doesn't seem very slow from here.

What we've seen isn't "scrutiny." A lot of folks, including myself, welcome scrutiny.

What we've seen is Ready, Fire, Aim. There's been no good-faith scrutiny. It's just breaking a bunch of **** because you can (or at least, Musk and Trump think they can; courts will likely disabuse them of some of that notion.)
The blowtorch is the deconstruction of the administrative state. Yes, I 100% support it! It's long overdue…

On this, I say… elections have consequences…
They do indeed Cary. You'll see the unintended ones someday I hope.


At least you admit you're hoping for bad things to happen. That's a step in the right direction to admitting you have a problem. Perhaps, you should be "curious" about that.
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If only we still had Biden.
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https://www.al.com/news/2025/02/katie-britt-vows-to-work-with-rfk-jr-after-nih-funding-cuts-cause-concern-in-alabama.html

This kind of reaction is what will stop, or at least slow down, Elon and his kids. It seems likely that the cuts will hurt red states more because they take in proportionally more government funding than blue states
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packgrad said:


Lol, the "anti-corruptors". For a guy who gaslights every time he open's his mouth, this one is next level.

Trump and Elon are literally the cops who pull over a family sedan and then pretend they found 30 pounds of cocaine in the trunk.
hokiewolf
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packgrad said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:



All of us have been disconnected from service, because of the system that's been created. It needs changing slowly, but surely.

I believe the research that this country needs and or wants can be funded by the private sector. This can be done by fund raising within a University or a Private Sector PE based business.

As long as these types of funding continue to come out of the Federal Government, you will have, and should have the scrutiny you've seen the last three weeks.


Also, do you consider the blowtorch approach Musk and his acolytes are taking to be "slow but sure change?" Doesn't seem very slow from here.

What we've seen isn't "scrutiny." A lot of folks, including myself, welcome scrutiny.

What we've seen is Ready, Fire, Aim. There's been no good-faith scrutiny. It's just breaking a bunch of **** because you can (or at least, Musk and Trump think they can; courts will likely disabuse them of some of that notion.)
The blowtorch is the deconstruction of the administrative state. Yes, I 100% support it! It's long overdue…

On this, I say… elections have consequences…
They do indeed Cary. You'll see the unintended ones someday I hope.


At least you admit you're hoping for bad things to happen. That's a step in the right direction to admitting you have a problem. Perhaps, you should be "curious" about that.
no, I don't live in this fantasy world that Trump will fix everything. Remember when in 2016 he was going to end Fentanyl? Fentanyl deaths rose 44% from 2016-2020.

I don't want bad things to happen, I'm just a realist who knows that bad things happen with good intentions.
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SmaptyWolf
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

BBW12OG said:

So.....

This is bad right?

What are they doing?

Who is funding it?

I could have applied for a grant to research homosexuality in prison and the effect condoms have on chickens and gotten approved.

Open honesty seems to bother the left and Pinocchio.....

As soon as the receipts are shown it gets obvious.

You're showing your ignorance again.

Clearly you don't know any major research university professors that actually rely on the incredibly challenging and competitive grant process
to fund their research labs.
I happen to support the whole idea of stopping "all" federal grants to universities. It's time the Universities start going to the donators to support their research. Each university that wants to be in the research game, well.. go raise the money.

Now, for a two for one… the money that the University raises, they can decide to spend it on research or sports. It's their call. What does your University want to be?

Respectfully Cary, that's preposterous given the net benefit to our economy and society of investing in high-level medical, tech, and science research, and also given there isn't a developed nation in the world whose government doesn't heavily invest in research. 30%-40% of research around the world is funded by governments.

The right has got to stop forming their opinions of the efficacy or prudence of government institutions and activities based on edge cases that aren't true indicators of value.

Observing the last three weeks, the most frustrating thing is that there is zero indication that there is any actual analysis of value proposition of funding that's getting cut.

Scientific research, consumer protection, and targeted, non-military, humanitarian, and strategic interventions like USAID are some of the highest-ROI activities our government undertakes.

Taking a sledgehammer to research funding, USAID, and the CFPB is colossally shortsighted, stupid, and completely lacking in any sort of underlying thoughtful economic cost/benefit analysis.

These guys aren't doing any "analysis". They don't understand the limits of the private sector and everything that would have never been invented or accomplished without collective effort. They clearly don't comprehend what made us a super power in the first place.

This is 100% just a large number of small minded people who want revenge. For being the most successful country on Earth, I guess. It must be intolerable. We must burn it all down.
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SmaptyWolf said:

packgrad said:


Lol, the "anti-corruptors". For a guy who gaslights every time he open's his mouth, this one is next level.

Trump and Elon are literally the cops who pull over a family sedan and then pretend they found 30 pounds of cocaine in the trunk.


Next level brilliance right here^
packgrad
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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

packgrad said:


Lol, the "anti-corruptors". For a guy who gaslights every time he open's his mouth, this one is next level.

Trump and Elon are literally the cops who pull over a family sedan and then pretend they found 30 pounds of cocaine in the trunk.


Next level brilliance right here^


They always accuse others of what they do. SOP.
SmaptyWolf
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packgrad said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

packgrad said:


Lol, the "anti-corruptors". For a guy who gaslights every time he open's his mouth, this one is next level.

Trump and Elon are literally the cops who pull over a family sedan and then pretend they found 30 pounds of cocaine in the trunk.


Next level brilliance right here^


They always accuse others of what they do. SOP.
More gaslighting bullsh**.

Karl Rove perfected your "always accuse the other other side of your biggest weaknesses" strategy decades ago, and it's literally all you guys have done since. I guess the final level is now you have to insist that we're the ones doing that.
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caryking
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hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:



All of us have been disconnected from service, because of the system that's been created. It needs changing slowly, but surely.

I believe the research that this country needs and or wants can be funded by the private sector. This can be done by fund raising within a University or a Private Sector PE based business.

As long as these types of funding continue to come out of the Federal Government, you will have, and should have the scrutiny you've seen the last three weeks.


Also, do you consider the blowtorch approach Musk and his acolytes are taking to be "slow but sure change?" Doesn't seem very slow from here.

What we've seen isn't "scrutiny." A lot of folks, including myself, welcome scrutiny.

What we've seen is Ready, Fire, Aim. There's been no good-faith scrutiny. It's just breaking a bunch of **** because you can (or at least, Musk and Trump think they can; courts will likely disabuse them of some of that notion.)
The blowtorch is the deconstruction of the administrative state. Yes, I 100% support it! It's long overdue…

On this, I say… elections have consequences…
They do indeed Cary. You'll see the unintended ones someday I hope.


I'll accept some unintended consequences as we've been doing it with all the spending. Now, let's do it in reverse…
packgrad
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caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:



All of us have been disconnected from service, because of the system that's been created. It needs changing slowly, but surely.

I believe the research that this country needs and or wants can be funded by the private sector. This can be done by fund raising within a University or a Private Sector PE based business.

As long as these types of funding continue to come out of the Federal Government, you will have, and should have the scrutiny you've seen the last three weeks.


Also, do you consider the blowtorch approach Musk and his acolytes are taking to be "slow but sure change?" Doesn't seem very slow from here.

What we've seen isn't "scrutiny." A lot of folks, including myself, welcome scrutiny.

What we've seen is Ready, Fire, Aim. There's been no good-faith scrutiny. It's just breaking a bunch of **** because you can (or at least, Musk and Trump think they can; courts will likely disabuse them of some of that notion.)
The blowtorch is the deconstruction of the administrative state. Yes, I 100% support it! It's long overdue…

On this, I say… elections have consequences…
They do indeed Cary. You'll see the unintended ones someday I hope.


I'll accept some unintended consequences as we've been doing it with all the spending. Now, let's do it in reverse…


As Jennings said, there will be some broken eggs along the way, but the good faith from actually following through on the promises will give them the opportunity to make things right.

The people cheerleading broken eggs or wishing bad upon red states will be ignored.

Continue on. Voters gave this administration a mandate.

Edit... forgot the link
hokiewolf
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caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:



All of us have been disconnected from service, because of the system that's been created. It needs changing slowly, but surely.

I believe the research that this country needs and or wants can be funded by the private sector. This can be done by fund raising within a University or a Private Sector PE based business.

As long as these types of funding continue to come out of the Federal Government, you will have, and should have the scrutiny you've seen the last three weeks.


Also, do you consider the blowtorch approach Musk and his acolytes are taking to be "slow but sure change?" Doesn't seem very slow from here.

What we've seen isn't "scrutiny." A lot of folks, including myself, welcome scrutiny.

What we've seen is Ready, Fire, Aim. There's been no good-faith scrutiny. It's just breaking a bunch of **** because you can (or at least, Musk and Trump think they can; courts will likely disabuse them of some of that notion.)
The blowtorch is the deconstruction of the administrative state. Yes, I 100% support it! It's long overdue…

On this, I say… elections have consequences…
They do indeed Cary. You'll see the unintended ones someday I hope.


I'll accept some unintended consequences as we've been doing it with all the spending. Now, let's do it in reverse…
All the spending is in Social Security, Medicare, Defense, Veterans Affairs, and Debt Service. But 4 out of those 5 aren't goi g to be touched, which makes debt service worse.

So, cutting 1% of the Federal Budget, while anything is better than nothing I suppose, doesn't really move the needle for me because we're still not doing anything serious. All of these cuts are not because of fiscal responsibility.
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SmaptyWolf
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packgrad said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:



All of us have been disconnected from service, because of the system that's been created. It needs changing slowly, but surely.

I believe the research that this country needs and or wants can be funded by the private sector. This can be done by fund raising within a University or a Private Sector PE based business.

As long as these types of funding continue to come out of the Federal Government, you will have, and should have the scrutiny you've seen the last three weeks.


Also, do you consider the blowtorch approach Musk and his acolytes are taking to be "slow but sure change?" Doesn't seem very slow from here.

What we've seen isn't "scrutiny." A lot of folks, including myself, welcome scrutiny.

What we've seen is Ready, Fire, Aim. There's been no good-faith scrutiny. It's just breaking a bunch of **** because you can (or at least, Musk and Trump think they can; courts will likely disabuse them of some of that notion.)
The blowtorch is the deconstruction of the administrative state. Yes, I 100% support it! It's long overdue…

On this, I say… elections have consequences…
They do indeed Cary. You'll see the unintended ones someday I hope.


I'll accept some unintended consequences as we've been doing it with all the spending. Now, let's do it in reverse…


As Jennings said, there will be some broken eggs along the way, but the good faith from actually following through on the promises will give them the opportunity to make things right.

The people cheerleading broken eggs or wishing bad upon red states will be ignored.

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Nobody is "wishing bad upon red states". More of your "up is down" nonsense. Just pointing out what is actually happening in red states right now. You're shooting yourselves in the face.

Here's Alabama's junior senator yesterday trying to do damage control. Turns out the University of Alabama is the state's largest employer. Whoopsie! I guess we're gonna get back to the good ol' days when no one in Alabama could afford shoes.

https://www.al.com/news/2025/02/katie-britt-vows-to-work-with-rfk-jr-after-nih-funding-cuts-cause-concern-in-alabama.html
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hokiewolf said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:



All of us have been disconnected from service, because of the system that's been created. It needs changing slowly, but surely.

I believe the research that this country needs and or wants can be funded by the private sector. This can be done by fund raising within a University or a Private Sector PE based business.

As long as these types of funding continue to come out of the Federal Government, you will have, and should have the scrutiny you've seen the last three weeks.


Also, do you consider the blowtorch approach Musk and his acolytes are taking to be "slow but sure change?" Doesn't seem very slow from here.

What we've seen isn't "scrutiny." A lot of folks, including myself, welcome scrutiny.

What we've seen is Ready, Fire, Aim. There's been no good-faith scrutiny. It's just breaking a bunch of **** because you can (or at least, Musk and Trump think they can; courts will likely disabuse them of some of that notion.)
Breaking things is easy. Putting it back together is the hard part. So far I've seen no interest from DOGE in the fixing it after they break it. I feel bad for Rubio, he's trying and I think he realizes what an error this is starting to become.
Its very, very early, but Rubio has killed it so far as Secretary of State
Werewolf
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John Rich telling us what to expect. Stay tuned.
Werewolf
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Helping the 3 blind mice out with a post.
Werewolf
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Not surprising.
caryking
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hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:



All of us have been disconnected from service, because of the system that's been created. It needs changing slowly, but surely.

I believe the research that this country needs and or wants can be funded by the private sector. This can be done by fund raising within a University or a Private Sector PE based business.

As long as these types of funding continue to come out of the Federal Government, you will have, and should have the scrutiny you've seen the last three weeks.


Also, do you consider the blowtorch approach Musk and his acolytes are taking to be "slow but sure change?" Doesn't seem very slow from here.

What we've seen isn't "scrutiny." A lot of folks, including myself, welcome scrutiny.

What we've seen is Ready, Fire, Aim. There's been no good-faith scrutiny. It's just breaking a bunch of **** because you can (or at least, Musk and Trump think they can; courts will likely disabuse them of some of that notion.)
The blowtorch is the deconstruction of the administrative state. Yes, I 100% support it! It's long overdue…

On this, I say… elections have consequences…
They do indeed Cary. You'll see the unintended ones someday I hope.


I'll accept some unintended consequences as we've been doing it with all the spending. Now, let's do it in reverse…
All the spending is in Social Security, Medicare, Defense, Veterans Affairs, and Debt Service. But 4 out of those 5 aren't goi g to be touched, which makes debt service worse.

So, cutting 1% of the Federal Budget, while anything is better than nothing I suppose, doesn't really move the needle for me because we're still not doing anything serious. All of these cuts are not because of fiscal responsibility.
All of them will be touched with a mandate to not affect people receiving benefits. Let's start with the 6.5 million people receiving social security benefits that are 112 and older. Then, drop down to 100, 90, etc…

Clean up the Social Security rolls…. After that, I'm looking at programs based inside Social Security that have nothing to do with payments. Eliminate 100% of those and let's see how solvent Social Security really is. I'll bet it far more solvent that we are being told. Use the money for its intention.
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"Every Canadian is an American," says retired US Army Major General Paul Vallely. His words echo true under the sense America's Founding Fathers published the Articles of Confederation on November 15, 1777. As a history lesson, Article 11 expressly invites the colony of Canada forth for integration into our Great Nation as our largest, northern State.

caryking
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Werewolf said:

"Every Canadian is an American," says retired US Army Major General Paul Vallely. His words echo true under the sense America's Founding Fathers published the Articles of Confederation on November 15, 1777. As a history lesson, Article 11 expressly invites the colony of Canada forth for integration into our Great Nation as our largest, northern State.


Were, what exactly are you wanting people to do with this nugget of information?
Werewolf
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Pondering a question. Could the intent of the troops on the border be not to keep new ones from coming in but rather the intent be to keep the ones here from getting away? Just a thought.

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FlossyDFlynt said:

hokiewolf said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:



All of us have been disconnected from service, because of the system that's been created. It needs changing slowly, but surely.

I believe the research that this country needs and or wants can be funded by the private sector. This can be done by fund raising within a University or a Private Sector PE based business.

As long as these types of funding continue to come out of the Federal Government, you will have, and should have the scrutiny you've seen the last three weeks.


Also, do you consider the blowtorch approach Musk and his acolytes are taking to be "slow but sure change?" Doesn't seem very slow from here.

What we've seen isn't "scrutiny." A lot of folks, including myself, welcome scrutiny.

What we've seen is Ready, Fire, Aim. There's been no good-faith scrutiny. It's just breaking a bunch of **** because you can (or at least, Musk and Trump think they can; courts will likely disabuse them of some of that notion.)
Breaking things is easy. Putting it back together is the hard part. So far I've seen no interest from DOGE in the fixing it after they break it. I feel bad for Rubio, he's trying and I think he realizes what an error this is starting to become.
Its very, very early, but Rubio has killed it so far as Secretary of State
Yes he has.
jkpackfan
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Werewolf said:

"Every Canadian is an American," says retired US Army Major General Paul Vallely. His words echo true under the sense America's Founding Fathers published the Articles of Confederation on November 15, 1777. As a history lesson, Article 11 expressly invites the colony of Canada forth for integration into our Great Nation as our largest, northern State.


Zero chance Canada will be a state. People need to stop with this nonsense.
Werewolf
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GPS coordinates, nice, job well done. #EXPOSURE Recall, Ruben pulled off the "upset, LOL" theft over Kari Lake and is now AZ's US Senator.
Werewolf
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LOL, I'll stop for a bit........so the sniveling little whiner doesn't come out.


caryking
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Werewolf said:

LOL, I'll stop for a bit........so the sniveling little whiner doesn't come out.
Actually, I thought you said you were leaving the floor for Civ to wipe my ass with it…
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FlossyDFlynt said:

hokiewolf said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:



All of us have been disconnected from service, because of the system that's been created. It needs changing slowly, but surely.

I believe the research that this country needs and or wants can be funded by the private sector. This can be done by fund raising within a University or a Private Sector PE based business.

As long as these types of funding continue to come out of the Federal Government, you will have, and should have the scrutiny you've seen the last three weeks.


Also, do you consider the blowtorch approach Musk and his acolytes are taking to be "slow but sure change?" Doesn't seem very slow from here.

What we've seen isn't "scrutiny." A lot of folks, including myself, welcome scrutiny.

What we've seen is Ready, Fire, Aim. There's been no good-faith scrutiny. It's just breaking a bunch of **** because you can (or at least, Musk and Trump think they can; courts will likely disabuse them of some of that notion.)
Breaking things is easy. Putting it back together is the hard part. So far I've seen no interest from DOGE in the fixing it after they break it. I feel bad for Rubio, he's trying and I think he realizes what an error this is starting to become.
Its very, very early, but Rubio has killed it so far as Secretary of State


I agree. He seems to be doing a good job so far.
Gulfstream4
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Werewolf said:

GPS coordinates, nice, job well done. #EXPOSURE Recall, Ruben pulled off the "upset, LOL" theft over Kari Lake and is now AZ's US Senator.



May I recommend a 500lber right there. It would make the world a better place.
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GuerrillaPack said:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


Speaking of that, here is "Trump" responding. Better known as Captain Deplorable.

https://rumble.com/v6i1bqy-greatest-one-yet-from-captain-deplorable.html

Being an N. C. State fan builds great character!
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jkpackfan
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packgrad said:


What a life, I cannot imagine.
Werewolf
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he roughed you up this morning…

you have the ammunition and can't fire the gun.

i do pull for ya, i just hate being on the losing end.

You have a good day, patriot
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Unreal…
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