Footsteps and foremost, MAGA is the jobs market.Civilized said:caryking said:Actually, it would have made sense for the black population to vote Republican for the last 100 years. Section 8 housing has been dismal for the black population. So, my answer was "right now" and I didn't limit the timeframe for "right now".Civilized said:caryking said:Right now!Civilized said:caryking said:The Black vote for so long.Nairo said:
Name onecaryking said:They've been able to accomplish several frauds on the American people, so, it shouldn't surprise you…Civilized said:Nairo said:
The Democratic Party can't even organize a lemonade stand but we're supposed to believe they perpetuated a massive and complex conspiracy to steal a national election? Come on.
Hahaha. Great point!
In what era would a shift right have been sensible for Black voters?
Gotcha.
You said "for so long" like it made sense for Black voters to more seriously consider voting Pub decades ago.
The Black vote is interesting socially since Blacks, like Hispanic voters, do not consistently trend progressive on cultural issues like gay marriage. I don't see those types of cultural issues being electorally central moving forward though.
And unlike many Hispanic voters, who are also all over the map on cultural issues, Black voters are less likely to view a stronger federal government as an economic opportunity impediment. Recent or even second-Gen Hispanic immigrants often push back strongly on Socialist or Socialist-tangential government tendencies whereas things like single-payer health care poll much better with Black voters.
Trump did slightly better with Black men in 20 than in 16 mainly due to economic/unemployment messaging. I think Trump's cultural significance and middle finger up to the traditional establishment were also appealing in a way that's unique to Trump (and not frequently shared by other Republicans). Will be curious to see if that trend continues in 24.
Unfortunately, the core belief structure, of the Conservative Republican Party would have been better (obviously I can't rewrite history as some do) for the Black population…. We are now seeing the Hispanic population as well as Black men starting to see the core belief structure as being good for them.
I don't think many voters of any race/ethnicity could succinctly describe the "core belief structure" of either party.
Jobs were the huge hot button item the last election for Black and Hispanic voters. The pre-COVID Trump economy was strong and he pushed that narrative fairly successfully. Having work/opportunity talks.
That said, context matters. I think he got 6% of the Black male vote in 16 and 8% in 20. That's a sizable % increase but the absolute numbers are still small. We'll see if there an actual trend-right the next election where Trump doesn't run. I trust the Hispanic trend right more than for Black voters and think Trump's appeal/schtick is unique amongst candidates. I don't think Black men that voted for Trump were America First MAGA voters, I think they were voting for Trump's job market and personality.
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden