Thank god that you actually posted something that actually makes some basic sense again…Werewolf said:
The very night of the election many people saw something that they had never seen before in the history of our elections. They saw votes being changed on the screen in front of them, going from President Donald Trump to Joe Biden. On top of that, the morning after the election, even that night, the voting stopped. They stopped counting in multiple districts at the same time before the vote got to 270 electors for President Trump. That's never happened before. The only time votes have ever stopped being counted in this country on election night was when the Broward County problem developed over Hanging Chad's in one county in FL. So for FIVE states to stop counting on election night is absolutely UNPRECEDENTED. And they did it because the vote count for the electoral college was about to hit [+ go over] 270 for President Donald Trump, because of the massive outpouring of votes for him that night. By the next morning, multiple mathematicians had contacted me and told me they knew the algorithm that had been run to change the votes. It was that obvious to people with mathematical expertise. It is a mathematical impossibility for 100's of thousands of votes to show up for VP Biden alone and to have been injected into the system the way that they were. We have eye-witness testimony of countless people who saw votes coming in, in unsecured containers and improper means and looking different the night of the election. These people have come forward at great personal risk to themselves & their families to provide thousands of affidavits of voting abnormalities and actual crimes that they witnessed happen on election night. The very fact that the other side is working so hard to hide all of this. Federal law requires transparency in our electoral process and our elections."
A Friend of mine, a Clemson Mechanical Engineer grad and CEO of a large engineering firm......and hugely strong Republican, went straight to SNOPES.com to check. LMAO, who the he$$ do you think owns SNOPES and the other fact checking sites?
If you were watching the Corporate Media news, we saw votes flashed with reduced #'s, we saw counting stopped overnight, we saw TRUMP way up in these States, counts going on for days, blah blah blah. If 2020 doesn't get fixed FELLAS, get your little black outfit on, prepare for chips in your hands and prepare for social credit scores to keep u in the correct "Frame of MIND".......otherwise you're cut off financially, etc. This cannot be any plainer. God Help Us otherwise.
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They didn't have enough time to react in Virginia… they always thought it was "in the bag" up until the final couple of weeks. They had four (4) years to plan for the national election… and only in the battleground states with big cities they could use as cover, using the "voting by mail" mechanism.Oldsouljer said:Personally, I think that there was less incentive to cheat when everyone thought McAuliffe would prevail in the end, despite a tightening race. Same thing with Trump in 2016, he was given no chance to crack the blue wall until he did. In 2020, the Dems took no chances and you saw the result. Having said that, there's one failsafe against the suspicion of electoral fraud in Presidential elections that isn't present in any other races and that is the certification of Electors by state legislatures. If for example, the shady doings of Philadelphia area boards of election are repeated in 2024, the PA legislature may have to intervene directly next time. So, there's more than one reason why certain people want to eliminate the Electoral College.caryking said:Folks, the real reason the VA govs race went Republican was the amount of money and people put in place to control the count. In other words, no shenanigans happened with the count.hokiewolf said:I agree with you. I don't want a close election win in 2024, I want a Reganesque rout.Civilized said:hokiewolf said:I've said it before, show me the proof and I'll jump on the stolen election band wagon all day. But there simply isn't any proof out there that the election was stolen. There's plenty of proof however that Trump turned off a lot of the people who voted for him in 2016 that didn't vote for him in 2020 (hint, Va Gov election results).caryking said:I was hoping you had done enough research to realize I'm right... Civ, you will be Civ, all the way to the graveCivilized said:caryking said:
Wholesale prices rise almost 10%. This should equate to a larger retail price increase. Folks, the country is heading in the wrong direction!
Elections have consequences... stolen elections have catastrophic consequences...
I was hoping you'd moved away from the stolen election thing.And... you're still invited to the IPS luncheon...
It's going to be great when Trump runs again and loses to Bidens corpse or Harris/Buttigeig ticket. There are better candidates out there for the Republican party to set a solid agenda and crush it in 2022 and 2024. Will they actually do that is something I'm not sure the current leadership is capable of.
There's no way Trump loses to Weekend at Brandon's.
I don't think he loses to Harris at the top of the ticket either but I think that's more of a tossup.
I think he could be in trouble with a well-executed campaign from someone that can't be negatively campaigned against the way the right easily can Biden and Harris.
*ETA: I also don't think there's any way a well-run campaign by DeSantis or similar loses, no matter who the Dems roll out. I think Trump introduces some risk of losing into the equation given how divisive and unfavorable he is for 60-70 million people.
Vote by mail is what they want to federalize... you heard Biden say it: everybody should be able to vote. Actually, Joe, every US Citizen should be able to vote according to the States laws. According the US Constitution, the State legislature sets the laws on voting for their State.TheStorm said:They didn't have enough time to react in Virginia… they always thought it was "in the bag" up until the final couple of weeks. They had four (4) years to plan for the national election… and only in the battleground states with big cities they could use as cover, using the "voting by mail" mechanism.Oldsouljer said:Personally, I think that there was less incentive to cheat when everyone thought McAuliffe would prevail in the end, despite a tightening race. Same thing with Trump in 2016, he was given no chance to crack the blue wall until he did. In 2020, the Dems took no chances and you saw the result. Having said that, there's one failsafe against the suspicion of electoral fraud in Presidential elections that isn't present in any other races and that is the certification of Electors by state legislatures. If for example, the shady doings of Philadelphia area boards of election are repeated in 2024, the PA legislature may have to intervene directly next time. So, there's more than one reason why certain people want to eliminate the Electoral College.caryking said:Folks, the real reason the VA govs race went Republican was the amount of money and people put in place to control the count. In other words, no shenanigans happened with the count.hokiewolf said:I agree with you. I don't want a close election win in 2024, I want a Reganesque rout.Civilized said:hokiewolf said:I've said it before, show me the proof and I'll jump on the stolen election band wagon all day. But there simply isn't any proof out there that the election was stolen. There's plenty of proof however that Trump turned off a lot of the people who voted for him in 2016 that didn't vote for him in 2020 (hint, Va Gov election results).caryking said:I was hoping you had done enough research to realize I'm right... Civ, you will be Civ, all the way to the graveCivilized said:caryking said:
Wholesale prices rise almost 10%. This should equate to a larger retail price increase. Folks, the country is heading in the wrong direction!
Elections have consequences... stolen elections have catastrophic consequences...
I was hoping you'd moved away from the stolen election thing.
It's going to be great when Trump runs again and loses to Bidens corpse or Harris/Buttigeig ticket. There are better candidates out there for the Republican party to set a solid agenda and crush it in 2022 and 2024. Will they actually do that is something I'm not sure the current leadership is capable of.
There's no way Trump loses to Weekend at Brandon's.
I don't think he loses to Harris at the top of the ticket either but I think that's more of a tossup.
I think he could be in trouble with a well-executed campaign from someone that can't be negatively campaigned against the way the right easily can Biden and Harris.
*ETA: I also don't think there's any way a well-run campaign by DeSantis or similar loses, no matter who the Dems roll out. I think Trump introduces some risk of losing into the equation given how divisive and unfavorable he is for 60-70 million people.
That doesn't mean a lawyer can bring litigation, whereas, the courts create laws. That happened all over the place, especially in Wisconsin!!
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
I understand you struggle with the extent of the wolf in the pasture. You will get there as things become much worse. If you've not been able to associate the numerous events of the world with the goal of a single totalitarian world government I hope you will stay engaged. However, engaging on CNN and MsNBC .....and even FoxNews.....will never provide you with the information necessary to discern what is actually underway. I doubt you know the extent of massive global marches and protests across the globe in opposition to Govts and their vaccine passports....as the censorship is massive. Don't get your panties in a wad with someone that pushes the envelope of real truth.TheStorm said:Thank god that you actually posted something that actually makes some basic sense again…Werewolf said:
The very night of the election many people saw something that they had never seen before in the history of our elections. They saw votes being changed on the screen in front of them, going from President Donald Trump to Joe Biden. On top of that, the morning after the election, even that night, the voting stopped. They stopped counting in multiple districts at the same time before the vote got to 270 electors for President Trump. That's never happened before. The only time votes have ever stopped being counted in this country on election night was when the Broward County problem developed over Hanging Chad's in one county in FL. So for FIVE states to stop counting on election night is absolutely UNPRECEDENTED. And they did it because the vote count for the electoral college was about to hit [+ go over] 270 for President Donald Trump, because of the massive outpouring of votes for him that night. By the next morning, multiple mathematicians had contacted me and told me they knew the algorithm that had been run to change the votes. It was that obvious to people with mathematical expertise. It is a mathematical impossibility for 100's of thousands of votes to show up for VP Biden alone and to have been injected into the system the way that they were. We have eye-witness testimony of countless people who saw votes coming in, in unsecured containers and improper means and looking different the night of the election. These people have come forward at great personal risk to themselves & their families to provide thousands of affidavits of voting abnormalities and actual crimes that they witnessed happen on election night. The very fact that the other side is working so hard to hide all of this. Federal law requires transparency in our electoral process and our elections."
A Friend of mine, a Clemson Mechanical Engineer grad and CEO of a large engineering firm......and hugely strong Republican, went straight to SNOPES.com to check. LMAO, who the he$$ do you think owns SNOPES and the other fact checking sites?
If you were watching the Corporate Media news, we saw votes flashed with reduced #'s, we saw counting stopped overnight, we saw TRUMP way up in these States, counts going on for days, blah blah blah. If 2020 doesn't get fixed FELLAS, get your little black outfit on, prepare for chips in your hands and prepare for social credit scores to keep u in the correct "Frame of MIND".......otherwise you're cut off financially, etc. This cannot be any plainer. God Help Us otherwise.
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
LOLOLOL
Unfortunately, people were too weak to accept BBW for who he was. They cowardly pushed him off the site...RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
caryking said:Unfortunately, people were too weak to accept BBW for who he was. They cowardly pushed him off the site...RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
AND THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN!!!!
You must be reading real news...RunsWithWolves26 said:caryking said:Unfortunately, people were too weak to accept BBW for who he was. They cowardly pushed him off the site...RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
AND THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN!!!!
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
I'm way too old to be somebody's baby my friend. You're wearing a mask and got the JAB too, didn't you?RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
Civilized is about 30-40......I suspect. A perfect example of the pathetic nature of the young adults in this country. A sheeple, you wouldn't know a stolen election if it bit you on the nose. A casualty our modern-day public school system and woke society. I watch the posts of characters like you and I question if this country can be salvaged.Civilized said:RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
LOLOLOL
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
Werewolf said:I'm way too old to be somebody's baby my friend. You're wearing a mask and got the JAB too, didn't you?RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
I'm sure to your mom, you were or will always be her baby.
Absolutely, she's about to turn 86 and I still am. Now tell me, you got JAB #1 and JAB#2, right? Is the booster available there in your town? ;-) You'll be safer with the booster!! If you're on the Pfizer plan, they've got a 4th one planned....you can probably get put on the waiting list. U still haven't figured it out yet, have ya?RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:I'm way too old to be somebody's baby my friend. You're wearing a mask and got the JAB too, didn't you?RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
I'm sure to your mom, you were or will always be her baby.
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
Werewolf said:Absolutely, she's about to turn 86 and I still am. Now tell me, you got JAB #1 and JAB#2, right? Is the booster available there in your town? ;-) You'll be safer with the booster!!RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:I'm way too old to be somebody's baby my friend. You're wearing a mask and got the JAB too, didn't you?RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
I'm sure to your mom, you were or will always be her baby.
Then in that case, you aren't to old to be someones baby friend.
Why, you didn't believe me.......you're track record is that you believe essentially everything you're told. Discernment my friend, discernment....so many of you are completely lacking.RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:Absolutely, she's about to turn 86 and I still am. Now tell me, you got JAB #1 and JAB#2, right? Is the booster available there in your town? ;-) You'll be safer with the booster!!RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:I'm way too old to be somebody's baby my friend. You're wearing a mask and got the JAB too, didn't you?RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
I'm sure to your mom, you were or will always be her baby.
Then in that case, you aren't to old to be someones baby friend.
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
Why are you provoking this conversation? Aren't you part of the group that bans people? We would probably have BBW had people just stopped and let him be!!!RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:Absolutely, she's about to turn 86 and I still am. Now tell me, you got JAB #1 and JAB#2, right? Is the booster available there in your town? ;-) You'll be safer with the booster!!RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:I'm way too old to be somebody's baby my friend. You're wearing a mask and got the JAB too, didn't you?RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
I'm sure to your mom, you were or will always be her baby.
Then in that case, you aren't to old to be someones baby friend.
No, some people, probably you, wanted to poke enough to get the response they wanted, then banned him. Come on, we all can do better, right?
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
caryking said:Why are you provoking this conversation? Aren't you part of the group that bans people? We would probably have BBW had people just stopped and let him be!!!RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:Absolutely, she's about to turn 86 and I still am. Now tell me, you got JAB #1 and JAB#2, right? Is the booster available there in your town? ;-) You'll be safer with the booster!!RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:I'm way too old to be somebody's baby my friend. You're wearing a mask and got the JAB too, didn't you?RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
I'm sure to your mom, you were or will always be her baby.
Then in that case, you aren't to old to be someones baby friend.
No, some people, probably you, wanted to poke enough to get the response they wanted, then banned him. Come on, we all can do better, right?
Sorry, but I am not allowed to ban anyone. Sorry you decided to assume that I could or would.
Werewolf said:Why, you didn't believe me.......you're track record is that you believe essentially everything you're told. Discernment my friend, discernment....so many of you are completely lacking.RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:Absolutely, she's about to turn 86 and I still am. Now tell me, you got JAB #1 and JAB#2, right? Is the booster available there in your town? ;-) You'll be safer with the booster!!RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:I'm way too old to be somebody's baby my friend. You're wearing a mask and got the JAB too, didn't you?RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
I'm sure to your mom, you were or will always be her baby.
Then in that case, you aren't to old to be someones baby friend.
My track record? I believe almost nothing of what I am told, no matter who says it or what is said. Sorry to disappoint.
caryking said:Unfortunately, people were too weak to accept BBW for who he was. They cowardly pushed him off the site...RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
Unfortunately, some of the people that got their buttons pushed by BBW acted just as bad, even worse at times. But, the truth is, he debated with facts and opinions based on those facts. Can't say the same for everyone that aided in his ban. Sad times!
Let's move on, it serves no purpose to continue with this type of JABBING.... I'll do my part.
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
Fair enough. You're right, I did assume that you could. Now, only you know whether you contributed, in some way, to get him banned.RunsWithWolves26 said:caryking said:Why are you provoking this conversation? Aren't you part of the group that bans people? We would probably have BBW had people just stopped and let him be!!!RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:Absolutely, she's about to turn 86 and I still am. Now tell me, you got JAB #1 and JAB#2, right? Is the booster available there in your town? ;-) You'll be safer with the booster!!RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:I'm way too old to be somebody's baby my friend. You're wearing a mask and got the JAB too, didn't you?RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
I'm sure to your mom, you were or will always be her baby.
Then in that case, you aren't to old to be someones baby friend.
No, some people, probably you, wanted to poke enough to get the response they wanted, then banned him. Come on, we all can do better, right?
Sorry, but I am not allowed to ban anyone. Sorry you decided to assume that I could or would.
No need to clear your name as I don't know whether I'll believe you or not... I know BBW thought you were a contributor. No reason for me not to believe him.
The following is a direct quote from BBW
"Funny how Glass threw personal insults to me and others as did RWW and nothing was ever said or done to them about it."
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
caryking said:Fair enough. You're right, I did assume that you could. Now, only you know whether you contributed, in some way, to get him banned.RunsWithWolves26 said:caryking said:Why are you provoking this conversation? Aren't you part of the group that bans people? We would probably have BBW had people just stopped and let him be!!!RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:Absolutely, she's about to turn 86 and I still am. Now tell me, you got JAB #1 and JAB#2, right? Is the booster available there in your town? ;-) You'll be safer with the booster!!RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:I'm way too old to be somebody's baby my friend. You're wearing a mask and got the JAB too, didn't you?RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
I'm sure to your mom, you were or will always be her baby.
Then in that case, you aren't to old to be someones baby friend.
No, some people, probably you, wanted to poke enough to get the response they wanted, then banned him. Come on, we all can do better, right?
Sorry, but I am not allowed to ban anyone. Sorry you decided to assume that I could or would.
No need to clear your name as I don't know whether I'll believe you or not... I know BBW thought you were a contributor. No reason for me not to believe him.
The following is a direct quote from BBW
"Funny how Glass threw personal insults to me and others as did RWW and nothing was ever said or done to them about it."
You're welcome to believe whatever you prefer. What contributed to BBW being gone was 10-12 messages a day to James/Steve and then the calling out of the owners of the site. If it makes you feel better to blame me, then have a blast.
RWW, looks like you know a lot about what went on... enough said by me. I don't want to be on your bad side. Or, am I already?RunsWithWolves26 said:caryking said:Fair enough. You're right, I did assume that you could. Now, only you know whether you contributed, in some way, to get him banned.RunsWithWolves26 said:caryking said:Why are you provoking this conversation? Aren't you part of the group that bans people? We would probably have BBW had people just stopped and let him be!!!RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:Absolutely, she's about to turn 86 and I still am. Now tell me, you got JAB #1 and JAB#2, right? Is the booster available there in your town? ;-) You'll be safer with the booster!!RunsWithWolves26 said:Werewolf said:I'm way too old to be somebody's baby my friend. You're wearing a mask and got the JAB too, didn't you?RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
I'm sure to your mom, you were or will always be her baby.
Then in that case, you aren't to old to be someones baby friend.
No, some people, probably you, wanted to poke enough to get the response they wanted, then banned him. Come on, we all can do better, right?
Sorry, but I am not allowed to ban anyone. Sorry you decided to assume that I could or would.
No need to clear your name as I don't know whether I'll believe you or not... I know BBW thought you were a contributor. No reason for me not to believe him.
The following is a direct quote from BBW
"Funny how Glass threw personal insults to me and others as did RWW and nothing was ever said or done to them about it."
You're welcome to believe whatever you prefer. What contributed to BBW being gone was 10-12 messages a day to James/Steve and then the calling out of the owners of the site. If it makes you feel better to blame me, then have a blast.
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
God bless Joe Manchin, hope he doesn't fold.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/omar-sanders-slam-manchin-rejecting-build-back-better
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/omar-sanders-slam-manchin-rejecting-build-back-better
Truth is the only one to blame for this guys ban was himself. Rarely did he debate anyone without belittling and mocking.Steve Videtich said:caryking said:Unfortunately, people were too weak to accept BBW for who he was. They cowardly pushed him off the site...RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
Unfortunately, some of the people that got their buttons pushed by BBW acted just as bad, even worse at times. But, the truth is, he debated with facts and opinions based on those facts. Can't say the same for everyone that aided in his ban. Sad times!
There is a war on America and 80-90% of Americans don't even know it's happening. We have been infiltrated by a fraudulent administration controlled by globalists that are currently taking down America. If we do not wake up now 2024 will never happen. Conservative personalities and hosts are doing a disservice to you as Americans by asking you to move away from the fraud of 2020. They're simply tucking you back into bed to smother you with the pillow.
HOLD EVERYONE ACCOUNTABLE! Demand better from your leaders and representatives. If they won't do it, then YOU do it. This is where we are at now in America.
HOLD EVERYONE ACCOUNTABLE! Demand better from your leaders and representatives. If they won't do it, then YOU do it. This is where we are at now in America.
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
hokiewolf said:Truth is the only one to blame for this guys ban was himself. Rarely did he debate anyone without belittling and mocking.Steve Videtich said:caryking said:Unfortunately, people were too weak to accept BBW for who he was. They cowardly pushed him off the site...RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
Unfortunately, some of the people that got their buttons pushed by BBW acted just as bad, even worse at times. But, the truth is, he debated with facts and opinions based on those facts. Can't say the same for everyone that aided in his ban. Sad times!
You may not have liked his style, but to say he was the only one to blame is wrong. Just my 2 cents!
Steve, you and I couldn't agree more...Steve Videtich said:hokiewolf said:Truth is the only one to blame for this guys ban was himself. Rarely did he debate anyone without belittling and mocking.Steve Videtich said:caryking said:Unfortunately, people were too weak to accept BBW for who he was. They cowardly pushed him off the site...RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
Unfortunately, some of the people that got their buttons pushed by BBW acted just as bad, even worse at times. But, the truth is, he debated with facts and opinions based on those facts. Can't say the same for everyone that aided in his ban. Sad times!
You may not have liked his style, but to say he was the only one to blame is wrong. Just my 2 cents!
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”
Joe Biden
Many of you are convinced that this is Democrat vrs Republican I suspect.
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
You know I fully support everything in this bill getting a vote on the senate floor...and just to be clear when I say that I mean lets break out every item in this bill and have both the house and the senate vote on each thing individually.jkpackfan said:
God bless Joe Manchin, hope he doesn't fold.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/omar-sanders-slam-manchin-rejecting-build-back-better
I almost feel sorry for the moderate house democrats that did vote on this thinking that this thing was gonna get through. Each one of them are going to get hammered over it in the 2022 election.
Yeah, I'm not agreeing with that whatsoever… the only reason that you came over to the WC to begin with was to jump into the fray with him (and then you liked it and stayed). You guys got onto the wrong side of each other from the very start - and some of that was definitely on you… at the end of the day it turned out that you and he agreed on far more than you would have initially liked to admit, but neither one of you could ever get past that start that you had with each other, although I did see you try a couple of times along the way.hokiewolf said:Truth is the only one to blame for this guys ban was himself. Rarely did he debate anyone without belittling and mocking.Steve Videtich said:caryking said:Unfortunately, people were too weak to accept BBW for who he was. They cowardly pushed him off the site...RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's like BBW and GP had a baby and this is what was created.
Unfortunately, some of the people that got their buttons pushed by BBW acted just as bad, even worse at times. But, the truth is, he debated with facts and opinions based on those facts. Can't say the same for everyone that aided in his ban. Sad times!
Glass and RWW can say whatever they want about "not being able to ban" but that was not initially true. They both had a hard on for BBW from the very start, and the "I know nothing" stance is… well… disingenuous. I'll leave it at that.
I don't have any problems with either one of them outside of the way they interacted with BBW. You are either a moderator, or a participant - you can't be both and then do the same things that you tell others they can't… listen, BBW is gone - maybe he'll be back some day, and maybe he won't - for now anyway, we all need to put the past in the past and leave it there.
This is a good forum overall (on the best State site on the internet, by the way) with good participants and good moderators. We just need to find better ways to disagree with each other sometimes.
I came over to the water cooler because I found some of the topics interesting. I didn't come over here to specifically engage a poster. I Stand by the fact that I tried to engage with discourse and was constantly told I was dumb and that I should "go get my shine box". So, no I disagree with you on all your points.
I do admit I poked fun at his posting style but I never took things personal, whereas most posts and every response was met with insults and belittling.
I do not understand why a bunch of smart posters here continue to ignore that behavior. I engage with each of you on agreed and disagreed points and don't have any issues with any of you because you interact with respect and discourse.
BBW would still be on this forum if he did the same.
I do admit I poked fun at his posting style but I never took things personal, whereas most posts and every response was met with insults and belittling.
I do not understand why a bunch of smart posters here continue to ignore that behavior. I engage with each of you on agreed and disagreed points and don't have any issues with any of you because you interact with respect and discourse.
BBW would still be on this forum if he did the same.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-sound-off-on-sen-manchins-build-back-better-resistance-sane-moderate-democratcowboypack02 said:You know I fully support everything in this bill getting a vote on the senate floor...and just to be clear when I say that I mean lets break out every item in this bill and have both the house and the senate vote on each thing individually.jkpackfan said:
God bless Joe Manchin, hope he doesn't fold.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/omar-sanders-slam-manchin-rejecting-build-back-better
I almost feel sorry for the moderate house democrats that did vote on this thinking that this thing was gonna get through. Each one of them are going to get hammered over it in the 2022 election.
I don't think anyone ever got to vote on it to begin with. I think they have avoided having a vote on it until they could railroad Manchin into agreeing to it, and that hasn't happened.
Bo Hines with another mention in the above link. (PB07 weeps)…
LOL. OK. You may not have "come over here to specifically engage a poster", but that's exactly what you did from the onset, once you got here…hokiewolf said:
I came over to the water cooler because I found some of the topics interesting. I didn't come over here to specifically engage a poster. I Stand by the fact that I tried to engage with discourse and was constantly told I was dumb and that I should "go get my shine box". So, no I disagree with you on all your points.
I do admit I poked fun at his posting style but I never took things personal, whereas most posts and every response was met with insults and belittling.
I do not understand why a bunch of smart posters here continue to ignore that behavior. I engage with each of you on agreed and disagreed points and don't have any issues with any of you because you interact with respect and discourse.
BBW would still be on this forum if he did the same.
"Smart posters" have never ignored that behavior… we just didn't agree that it was something that he should have been banned for. BBW made himself a target for sure, but he was good for the WC boards in general and he should have been permitted to continue posting here… his biggest downfall was not disengaging from the constant back and forth with RWW - and to a lesser extent Glass.
Not interested in getting into it with you over this, but I disagree that you don't feel you had a role in "poking at the hornet's nest with a stick" on an ongoing basis… and yeah, I'm sure that most of it after a certain point in time was purely for fun and ongoing entertainment - but at the end of the day, that's how you should have looked at it.
I agree with far more of what you post here than I disagree, but to think that you weren't "an" (note that I didn't say "the") antagonist in that relationship is incorrect.
That was the other problem with the entire thing. The democrats didn't even put together the whole bill. It was just a whole bunch of spending with the only thing they would tell us being which topic they were going to spend the money on.TheStorm said:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-sound-off-on-sen-manchins-build-back-better-resistance-sane-moderate-democratcowboypack02 said:You know I fully support everything in this bill getting a vote on the senate floor...and just to be clear when I say that I mean lets break out every item in this bill and have both the house and the senate vote on each thing individually.jkpackfan said:
God bless Joe Manchin, hope he doesn't fold.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/omar-sanders-slam-manchin-rejecting-build-back-better
I almost feel sorry for the moderate house democrats that did vote on this thinking that this thing was gonna get through. Each one of them are going to get hammered over it in the 2022 election.
I don't think anyone ever got to vote on it to begin with. I think they have avoided having a vote on it until they could railroad Manchin into agreeing to it, and that hasn't happened.
Bo Hines with another mention in the above link. (PB07 weeps)…
I don't agree with the spending but at least tell me exactly how your going to spend the money. Its just like with State athletics. We constantly hear that we should be giving more money but almost everyone here complains that we haven't seen any type of plan.
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