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Reads like a directional correction after the Dems went full loco-left wing in the past 12 months. The saying I used to hear from my parents all the time..."if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile" comes to mind.

it rightly scared folks who couldn't stand Trump azzhattery, but also didn't want wacko policies to be implemented -- at the national and local levels. And if the media had actually reported with a more cautionary eye on the policy discussions over the past year -- as they did with a vehemence for the previous 4 years, voting would likely be even more one-sided

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Republicans and Democrats need to stop believing they have a sweeping mandate when coming into office. Biden kowtowed to overconfident progressives and it's going to cost Democrats in 2022. The GOP leaning suburbanite voters who went Biden in 2020 wanted a boring centrist, not $5 trillion in spending.

IseWolf22 said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Reads like a directional correction after the Dems went full loco-left wing in the past 12 months. The saying I used to hear from my parents all the time..."if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile" comes to mind.

it rightly scared folks who couldn't stand Trump azzhattery, but also didn't want wacko policies to be implemented -- at the national and local levels. And if the media had actually reported with a more cautionary eye on the policy discussions over the past year -- as they did with a vehemence for the previous 4 years, voting would likely be even more one-sided

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Republicans and Democrats need to stop believing they have a sweeping mandate when coming into office. Biden kowtowed to overconfident progressives and it's going to cost Democrats in 2022. The GOP leaning suburbanite voters who went Biden in 2020 wanted a boring centrist, not $5 trillion in spending.

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Sometimes you do get a mandate as a governing body (like with FDR in the 40s)....unfortunately for the democrats this time around they seem to believe that only having a three seat majority in the house and being tied in the senate means they have a mandate. That ain't it. Of course listening to some of the democrats and media personalities it seems like after getting hammered on tuesday for the most part there is still the feeling that there is a mandate in place. It is only going to lead to the democrats continuing to get hammered in elections (sans the cheating of course)

Russia!!!!

Democrats spent years lying about “Russian collusion” when they were *actually* colluding with a Russian analyst.

Can’t make this stuff up. https://t.co/StP0FZqlO6

— Dan Crenshaw (@DanCrenshawTX) November 4, 2021

Republicans sweep VA and Nancy tries to immediately force the spending bill through without Manchin and AOC blames the VA results on the dem candidates running moderate campaigns. Citizens clearly are stating they don't like the woke agenda or much of the progressive movement as a whole, but the dems don't want to change their approach. This continues to be a huge opportunity for republicans in 22 and 24. I'm conservative but I'll continue to hope for a near 50/50 split in Congress, with a slight majority of conservatives.

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Bigger cities are actually more reflective of the national voting block at large. In 2020, there were more registered Dems and a larger percentage of voters leaned Dem than GOP (per Pew). I know folks on this board like to look at the US map and think there is more red, but you have to look at population centers not states as a whole. Cities also aren't gerrymandered to hell either, like states are. And yes, I know Democrats have gerrymandered as well.

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Hmmm. Those Democrat leaders are doing bang up jobs at major population centers like NYC, LA, and Chicago. Thank the lord we don't let those idiots in major population centers make the decisions for the rest of the country.

packgrad said:

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PackBacker07 said:

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Bigger cities are actually more reflective of the national voting block at large. In 2020, there were more registered Dems and a larger percentage of voters leaned Dem than GOP (per Pew). I know folks on this board like to look at the US map and think there is more red, but you have to look at population centers not states as a whole. Cities also aren't gerrymandered to hell either, like states are. And yes, I know Democrats have gerrymandered as well.

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Hmmm. Those Democrat leaders are doing bang up jobs at major population centers like NYC, LA, and Chicago. Thank the lord we don't let those idiots in major population centers make the decisions for the rest of the country.

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thats why liberals want to do away with the electoral college...

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caryking said:

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packgrad said:

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PackBacker07 said:

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Bigger cities are actually more reflective of the national voting block at large. In 2020, there were more registered Dems and a larger percentage of voters leaned Dem than GOP (per Pew). I know folks on this board like to look at the US map and think there is more red, but you have to look at population centers not states as a whole. Cities also aren't gerrymandered to hell either, like states are. And yes, I know Democrats have gerrymandered as well.

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Hmmm. Those Democrat leaders are doing bang up jobs at major population centers like NYC, LA, and Chicago. Thank the lord we don't let those idiots in major population centers make the decisions for the rest of the country.

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thats why liberals want to do away with the electoral college...

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If you win the popular vote you would want to do away with the EC.

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That would only be true if you were trying to change the fabric of what this country was founded upon.

Steve Videtich said:

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Cthepack said:

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packgrad said:

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PackBacker07 said:

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Bigger cities are actually more reflective of the national voting block at large. In 2020, there were more registered Dems and a larger percentage of voters leaned Dem than GOP (per Pew). I know folks on this board like to look at the US map and think there is more red, but you have to look at population centers not states as a whole. Cities also aren't gerrymandered to hell either, like states are. And yes, I know Democrats have gerrymandered as well.

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Hmmm. Those Democrat leaders are doing bang up jobs at major population centers like NYC, LA, and Chicago. Thank the lord we don't let those idiots in major population centers make the decisions for the rest of the country.

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thats why liberals want to do away with the electoral college...

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If you win the popular vote you would want to do away with the EC.

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That would only be true if you were trying to change the fabric of what this country was founded upon.

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I kinda feel like that is the point honestly.

I think that people from the cities, and by extension their representatives in government, have not experienced life outside of their city and have forgotten that the different way of life outside of where they live is the reason that they can live the way they want. Instead of having a bit of appreciation that everything they need is created by people from outside their bubble both in lifestyle and way of thinking they try to force a way of live upon the rest of the country to fit their own. In short even though the larger populations are in the cities those same populations need the rural parts of the country to keep producing in order to live but the rural populations don't need them.

The people in cities have to depend on government to live the way that they want to, but people in rural parts of the country have often found that the government just causes more trouble than its worth. That would in part explain the vastly different belief systems that exist between those two portions of our country

cowboypack02 said:

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Steve Videtich said:

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Cthepack said:

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caryking said:

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packgrad said:

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PackBacker07 said:

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Bigger cities are actually more reflective of the national voting block at large. In 2020, there were more registered Dems and a larger percentage of voters leaned Dem than GOP (per Pew). I know folks on this board like to look at the US map and think there is more red, but you have to look at population centers not states as a whole. Cities also aren't gerrymandered to hell either, like states are. And yes, I know Democrats have gerrymandered as well.

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Hmmm. Those Democrat leaders are doing bang up jobs at major population centers like NYC, LA, and Chicago. Thank the lord we don't let those idiots in major population centers make the decisions for the rest of the country.

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thats why liberals want to do away with the electoral college...

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If you win the popular vote you would want to do away with the EC.

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That would only be true if you were trying to change the fabric of what this country was founded upon.

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I kinda feel like that is the point honestly.

I think that people from the cities, and by extension their representatives in government, have not experienced life outside of their city and have forgotten that the different way of life outside of where they live is the reason that they can live the way they want. Instead of having a bit of appreciation that everything they need is created by people from outside their bubble both in lifestyle and way of thinking they try to force a way of live upon the rest of the country to fit their own. In short even though the larger populations are in the cities those same populations need the rural parts of the country to keep producing in order to live but the rural populations don't need them.

The people in cities have to depend on government to live the way that they want to, but people in rural parts of the country have often found that the government just causes more trouble than its worth. That would in part explain the vastly different belief systems that exist between those two portions of our country

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Which is really the beauty of this country. States, counties, hell neighborhoods can make their own rules or guidelines in their respective areas. But, no ONE group can dictate how EVERYBODY else lives.

If individual states or individual businesses want to have mandates, that's their prerogative. I then have a choice of visiting or working in those places. It's the national level mandates that are the issue for many.

Pretty much everyone in a leadership position right now in our government is a tyrant. The Democrats as a party are tyrants. Republicans are mostly corrupt or clueless with a few decent ones. Some republicans are comfortable being tyrants assistants.

Which is why I would be perfectly fine with wiping the slate clean in DC and starting anew! Time for a system update! Ha

Seriously?!?

Biden admin considering shutting down another pipeline, drawing criticism and dire warnings as winter nears

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-considering-shutting-down-michigan-pipeline