BBW12OG said:

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Wolfer79 said:

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packofwolves said:

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First press conference coming up soon. Softball questions or not? Will see.

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I am going with true/false questions only

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He is calling out the reporters by name as he reads their names off a cue card. What the holy hell has this country come to?

This is a farce. He's a joke as well as the entire left wing of this country.

God help us all.

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"To seem rather than to be"... just as long as the sheep don't notice and keep eating what we feed them everything will be fine.

Wonder what happens when they decide to send Boxer to the glue factory?

It's scary that POTUS needs these types of notes to hold a press conference. Even a cheat sheet with pictures of the reporters in attendance. I can't imagine his meetings with foreign leaders. Oh wait, he delegated that responsibility to Harris.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/photos-biden-cheat-sheets-first-formal-press-conference

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"I'm no Biden fan and I didn't vote for him personally but stop with this election fraud stuff. It just didn't happen like 2016 Russian collusion didn't happen to help Trump."

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So changing voting regulations at the last minute doesn't count as fraud to you? Good to know. You do you big guy.

Enjoy your little two year run. It ends in 2022.

packofwolves said:

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Nothing to see here...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-nominates-joe-manchins-wife-federal-commission

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Nothing but hypocrites on the left. Even the ones that "didn't" vote for Sleepy Joe don't ever seem to have a problem with stuff like this.

God only knows if he will stick to not blowing up the filibuster. If he votes for it then we are doomed as a country and all bets are off on what happens.

hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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You lefties are something else. Without election fraud this man would not be POTUS. Thanks for the next 20+ years of not having stupidity running the country.

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I'm no Biden fan and I didn't vote for him personally but stop with this election fraud stuff. It just didn't happen like 2016 Russian collusion didn't happen to help Trump.

Trump ran a bad campaign and his actions and muddled messaging and poor performance in the first debate sealed his fate. Then his selfishness at trying to figure out a way to stay president rather than concede and try and help save the Senate seats in GA are why where we are now with the potential for a huge agenda swing in Washington.

Elections have consequences and so does how the one you elected acts also have consequences. The media certainly did Trump no favors but he leaned into their narrative instead of ignoring it. If he'd done that, he would've had a 2nd term.

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I think Trump ran a bad campaign as well.

But you're wrong on pretty much the rest of it. Biden.... didn't even run a campaign. He was way worse b/c he was invisible.

Fraud most definitely happened and it definitely impacted the election. To what extent we won't know but it was made possible by taking all our election laws and throwing them out the window in Nov in the name of COVID. Between all the reports and witnesses of all the different nefarious activities this country is a disgrace to be where it is. The election was close no doubt.... it has to be for fraud to even work. There were 3 states that combined had 44,000 votes that separated the presidency. It is absolutely plausible that with millions of mail in votes, reports of pollwatcher intimidation and being forced out, no signature verification or matching, duplicating ballots during processing, stopping counts in the middle of the night only to pick back up in odd hours of the morning, and I could go on and on.

There were thousands of affidavits and probably 100+ people that testified in hearings. All of this was overshadowed by Powell and Wood peddling their BS conspiracies which ultimately undermined the real cases. Combine that with a court system that is too scared to act, a media along with internet that covers it up, a corrupt DOJ that will not even look into it..... well there you go.

Future elections should not allow mail ins anymore... each state needs to follow its old laws and many are actually reforming their laws as we speak.

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"I'm no Biden fan and I didn't vote for him personally but stop with this election fraud stuff. It just didn't happen like 2016 Russian collusion didn't happen to help Trump."

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So changing voting regulations at the last minute doesn't count as fraud to you? Good to know. You do you big guy.

Enjoy your little two year run. It ends in 2022.

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How quickly they forget about Biden's supossed double-digit poll lead... the election was most certainly fraudulent (that's not even a question if people are being honest with themselves) - and if the shoe was on the other foot, the press would have gotten behind it and it would have been thoroughly investigated (hell, there'd still be hearings going on right now)...

Now the Dems literally want to make it where you can vote from a cell phone or similar... I mean that's like third world country (dictatorship) type stuff there my friends.

There should not be one damn thing wrong with making sure that the person that votes in an election actually is who (he / she / it / whatever) says that they are... nothing in the world... unless you need to cheat.

hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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"I'm no Biden fan and I didn't vote for him personally but stop with this election fraud stuff. It just didn't happen like 2016 Russian collusion didn't happen to help Trump."

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So changing voting regulations at the last minute doesn't count as fraud to you? Good to know. You do you big guy.

Enjoy your little two year run. It ends in 2022.

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I guess I dont see something as fraud when it seems to happen prior to every election where the voting regulations change. I feel like you think it's a problem now because your candidate lost. I'm pretty sure it was a problem in 2016 because your candidate won.

I didn't realize I was elected to office as a democrat. What office am I elected to? I need to get busy working on getting re-elected and changing my party affiliation since it's not democrat!

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Blah, blah, blah.... spin, spin, spin... "I'm not a a member of the SOCIALIST PARTY.. I just support them and their ideologies."

Again, you do you big guy. Clamoring all the time about how you don't support them only further proves you do.

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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You lefties are something else. Without election fraud this man would not be POTUS. Thanks for the next 20+ years of not having stupidity running the country.

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I'm no Biden fan and I didn't vote for him personally but stop with this election fraud stuff. It just didn't happen like 2016 Russian collusion didn't happen to help Trump.

Trump ran a bad campaign and his actions and muddled messaging and poor performance in the first debate sealed his fate. Then his selfishness at trying to figure out a way to stay president rather than concede and try and help save the Senate seats in GA are why where we are now with the potential for a huge agenda swing in Washington.

Elections have consequences and so does how the one you elected acts also have consequences. The media certainly did Trump no favors but he leaned into their narrative instead of ignoring it. If he'd done that, he would've had a 2nd term.

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I think Trump ran a bad campaign as well.

But you're wrong on pretty much the rest of it. Biden.... didn't even run a campaign. He was way worse b/c he was invisible.

Fraud most definitely happened and it definitely impacted the election. To what extent we won't know but it was made possible by taking all our election laws and throwing them out the window in Nov in the name of COVID. Between all the reports and witnesses of all the different nefarious activities this country is a disgrace to be where it is. The election was close no doubt.... it has to be for fraud to even work. There were 3 states that combined had 44,000 votes that separated the presidency. It is absolutely plausible that with millions of mail in votes, reports of pollwatcher intimidation and being forced out, no signature verification or matching, duplicating ballots during processing, stopping counts in the middle of the night only to pick back up in odd hours of the morning, and I could go on and on.

There were thousands of affidavits and probably 100+ people that testified in hearings. All of this was overshadowed by Powell and Wood peddling their BS conspiracies which ultimately undermined the real cases. Combine that with a court system that is too scared to act, a media along with internet that covers it up, a corrupt DOJ that will not even look into it..... well there you go.

Future elections should not allow mail ins anymore... each state needs to follow its old laws and many are actually reforming their laws as we speak.

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There were countless opportunities to prove fraud. Trump's team couldn't do it. Powell is now defending herself by saying that "no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact."

Uh oh, here come the self-proclaimed independents and libertarians again...

hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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You lefties are something else. Without election fraud this man would not be POTUS. Thanks for the next 20+ years of not having stupidity running the country.

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I'm no Biden fan and I didn't vote for him personally but stop with this election fraud stuff. It just didn't happen like 2016 Russian collusion didn't happen to help Trump.

Trump ran a bad campaign and his actions and muddled messaging and poor performance in the first debate sealed his fate. Then his selfishness at trying to figure out a way to stay president rather than concede and try and help save the Senate seats in GA are why where we are now with the potential for a huge agenda swing in Washington.

Elections have consequences and so does how the one you elected acts also have consequences. The media certainly did Trump no favors but he leaned into their narrative instead of ignoring it. If he'd done that, he would've had a 2nd term.

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You better keep a closer eye on the news in those States that are said to have election fraud.... lots of stuff happening.

pineknollshoresking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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You lefties are something else. Without election fraud this man would not be POTUS. Thanks for the next 20+ years of not having stupidity running the country.

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I'm no Biden fan and I didn't vote for him personally but stop with this election fraud stuff. It just didn't happen like 2016 Russian collusion didn't happen to help Trump.

Trump ran a bad campaign and his actions and muddled messaging and poor performance in the first debate sealed his fate. Then his selfishness at trying to figure out a way to stay president rather than concede and try and help save the Senate seats in GA are why where we are now with the potential for a huge agenda swing in Washington.

Elections have consequences and so does how the one you elected acts also have consequences. The media certainly did Trump no favors but he leaned into their narrative instead of ignoring it. If he'd done that, he would've had a 2nd term.

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You better keep a closer eye on the news in those States that are said to have election fraud.... lots of stuff happening.

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referring to what exactly? The new Georgia law or some other sort of other thing?

hokiewolf said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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You lefties are something else. Without election fraud this man would not be POTUS. Thanks for the next 20+ years of not having stupidity running the country.

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I'm no Biden fan and I didn't vote for him personally but stop with this election fraud stuff. It just didn't happen like 2016 Russian collusion didn't happen to help Trump.

Trump ran a bad campaign and his actions and muddled messaging and poor performance in the first debate sealed his fate. Then his selfishness at trying to figure out a way to stay president rather than concede and try and help save the Senate seats in GA are why where we are now with the potential for a huge agenda swing in Washington.

Elections have consequences and so does how the one you elected acts also have consequences. The media certainly did Trump no favors but he leaned into their narrative instead of ignoring it. If he'd done that, he would've had a 2nd term.

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You better keep a closer eye on the news in those States that are said to have election fraud.... lots of stuff happening.

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referring to what exactly? The new Georgia law or some other sort of other thing?

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Damn, you sound like liberals on here! You want me to research this for you? Do it yourself!

BTW, I'm not saying you are a liberal; however, the question makes you look like one...

You know hard it is to have to actually work for something. Some don't.

If the dems succeed in ramming through this "voting rights" bill they may never lose power. Looks like they just bought off their last vote with Manchin.

hokiewolf said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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You lefties are something else. Without election fraud this man would not be POTUS. Thanks for the next 20+ years of not having stupidity running the country.

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I'm no Biden fan and I didn't vote for him personally but stop with this election fraud stuff. It just didn't happen like 2016 Russian collusion didn't happen to help Trump.

Trump ran a bad campaign and his actions and muddled messaging and poor performance in the first debate sealed his fate. Then his selfishness at trying to figure out a way to stay president rather than concede and try and help save the Senate seats in GA are why where we are now with the potential for a huge agenda swing in Washington.

Elections have consequences and so does how the one you elected acts also have consequences. The media certainly did Trump no favors but he leaned into their narrative instead of ignoring it. If he'd done that, he would've had a 2nd term.

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You better keep a closer eye on the news in those States that are said to have election fraud.... lots of stuff happening.

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referring to what exactly? The new Georgia law or some other sort of other thing?

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Damn, you sound like liberals on here! You want me to research this for you? Do it yourself!

BTW, I'm not saying you are a liberal; however, the question makes you look like one...

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brother if me asking you to clarify a vague comment is liberal then I'm Jimmy Carter.

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Your story, tell it like you want too... BTW, nothing vague about my original comment.... I said to keep an eye on something. If you don't know what to keep an eye out for; then, I say you should become more informed before making comments about a subject.

Ask more questions and people may help...

Hint: look at the states that were the most scrutinized for election fraud. Watch what they are doing. And yes, the Georgia law was created and passed because of the actions within the state. Now, look at other States...

So if you're referring to other States voters laws, I don't care because I dont live in those other states. If you're referring to pending national voting legislation I don't speculate on things that aren't written yet

Texas (amongst many other GOP groups) tried to sue the states that Biden won and attacked their election standards. Was that ok with you? This is an honest question.

pineknollshoresking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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So if you're referring to other States voters laws, I don't care because I dont live in those other states. If you're referring to pending national voting legislation I don't speculate on things that aren't written yet

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That could be the most naive post yet...

A) you should care about clean elections in all States. Correct, on a linear perspective, you live in NC (perhaps Virginia based on your name) and your States are the most important; however, other States elect representatives that have a bearing on your State

B) National voting legislation - the constitution clearly gives the power to the States for their election laws. Any nationalizing of this will be 1) unconstitutional 2) further turning this country upside-down where more power is given to the Federal Government

C) think about the premise of your original post on election fraud... now, go do research on what's happening in those States that were under attack by the Trump team...

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I wish I had your free time, this is probably my one vice. I read up on things happening in NC and also national legislation. I don't have time to see what other states are doing legislatively. That not being naive, it's just life fam

Don't do it......

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Texas (amongst many other GOP groups) tried to sue the states that Biden won and attacked their election standards. Was that ok with you? This is an honest question.

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If you truly researched the purpose of their complaint, you would be ok with it... Also, what place would they go for a grievance against another State?

hokiewolf said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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So if you're referring to other States voters laws, I don't care because I dont live in those other states. If you're referring to pending national voting legislation I don't speculate on things that aren't written yet

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That could be the most naive post yet...

A) you should care about clean elections in all States. Correct, on a linear perspective, you live in NC (perhaps Virginia based on your name) and your States are the most important; however, other States elect representatives that have a bearing on your State

B) National voting legislation - the constitution clearly gives the power to the States for their election laws. Any nationalizing of this will be 1) unconstitutional 2) further turning this country upside-down where more power is given to the Federal Government

C) think about the premise of your original post on election fraud... now, go do research on what's happening in those States that were under attack by the Trump team...

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I wish I had your free time, this is probably my one vice. I read up on things happening in NC and also national legislation. I don't have time to see what other states are doing legislatively. That not being naive, it's just life fam

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Family - Yes, I have two daughters.
News - Yes, I keep up with National and local news
Other States - watch and/or read the correct outlets and you will obtain a greater view into what's going on
Free time - well, I'm currently the COO of a company (kind of busy)

hokiewolf said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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You lefties are something else. Without election fraud this man would not be POTUS. Thanks for the next 20+ years of not having stupidity running the country.

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I'm no Biden fan and I didn't vote for him personally but stop with this election fraud stuff. It just didn't happen like 2016 Russian collusion didn't happen to help Trump.

Trump ran a bad campaign and his actions and muddled messaging and poor performance in the first debate sealed his fate. Then his selfishness at trying to figure out a way to stay president rather than concede and try and help save the Senate seats in GA are why where we are now with the potential for a huge agenda swing in Washington.

Elections have consequences and so does how the one you elected acts also have consequences. The media certainly did Trump no favors but he leaned into their narrative instead of ignoring it. If he'd done that, he would've had a 2nd term.

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You better keep a closer eye on the news in those States that are said to have election fraud.... lots of stuff happening.

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referring to what exactly? The new Georgia law or some other sort of other thing?

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Damn, you sound like liberals on here! You want me to research this for you? Do it yourself!

BTW, I'm not saying you are a liberal; however, the question makes you look like one...

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brother if me asking you to clarify a vague comment is liberal then I'm Jimmy Carter.

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LOLOLOL

Civilized said:

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hokiewolf said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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You lefties are something else. Without election fraud this man would not be POTUS. Thanks for the next 20+ years of not having stupidity running the country.

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I'm no Biden fan and I didn't vote for him personally but stop with this election fraud stuff. It just didn't happen like 2016 Russian collusion didn't happen to help Trump.

Trump ran a bad campaign and his actions and muddled messaging and poor performance in the first debate sealed his fate. Then his selfishness at trying to figure out a way to stay president rather than concede and try and help save the Senate seats in GA are why where we are now with the potential for a huge agenda swing in Washington.

Elections have consequences and so does how the one you elected acts also have consequences. The media certainly did Trump no favors but he leaned into their narrative instead of ignoring it. If he'd done that, he would've had a 2nd term.

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You better keep a closer eye on the news in those States that are said to have election fraud.... lots of stuff happening.

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referring to what exactly? The new Georgia law or some other sort of other thing?

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Damn, you sound like liberals on here! You want me to research this for you? Do it yourself!

BTW, I'm not saying you are a liberal; however, the question makes you look like one...

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brother if me asking you to clarify a vague comment is liberal then I'm Jimmy Carter.

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LOLOLOL

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and the one and only, Civ, chimes in...

pineknollshoresking said:

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Civilized said:

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hokiewolf said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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You lefties are something else. Without election fraud this man would not be POTUS. Thanks for the next 20+ years of not having stupidity running the country.

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I'm no Biden fan and I didn't vote for him personally but stop with this election fraud stuff. It just didn't happen like 2016 Russian collusion didn't happen to help Trump.

Trump ran a bad campaign and his actions and muddled messaging and poor performance in the first debate sealed his fate. Then his selfishness at trying to figure out a way to stay president rather than concede and try and help save the Senate seats in GA are why where we are now with the potential for a huge agenda swing in Washington.

Elections have consequences and so does how the one you elected acts also have consequences. The media certainly did Trump no favors but he leaned into their narrative instead of ignoring it. If he'd done that, he would've had a 2nd term.

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You better keep a closer eye on the news in those States that are said to have election fraud.... lots of stuff happening.

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referring to what exactly? The new Georgia law or some other sort of other thing?

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Damn, you sound like liberals on here! You want me to research this for you? Do it yourself!

BTW, I'm not saying you are a liberal; however, the question makes you look like one...

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brother if me asking you to clarify a vague comment is liberal then I'm Jimmy Carter.

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LOLOLOL

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and the one and only, Civ, chimes in...

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Always a great contributor to meaningful discussions...... typical.