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Going to the Supreme Court in time. Sorry

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No chance.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/27/us/politics/trump-pennsylvania-appeals-court.html

• Nov. 27, 2020
In a blistering decision, a Philadelphia appeals court ruled on Friday that the Trump campaign could not stop or attempt to reverse the certification of the voting results in Pennsylvania, reprimanding the president's team by noting that "calling an election unfair does not make it so."

The 21-page ruling by the Third Circuit Court of Appeals was a complete repudiation of Mr. Trump's legal effort to halt Pennsylvania's certification process and was written by a judge that he himself appointed to the bench. "Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy," Judge Stephanos Bibas wrote on behalf of the appeals court in a unanimous decision. "Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."

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You lost credibility citing the NYT. Was once a great paper.

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He got fired by Trump simply for acknowledging his agency did their job.

There's nothing more Trumpian than that.

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say it louder for the people in the back

So much chicanery.

"Speaking to Fox News last week, Dominion spokesman Michael Steel said the alleged switching of votes from Mr Trump to Mr Biden could not have occurred because it was "physically impossible".

"Look, when a voter votes on a Dominion machine, they fill out a ballot on a touch screen," Mr Steel said. "They are given a printed copy which they then give to a local election official for safekeeping. If any electronic interference had taken place, the tally reported electronically would not match the printed ballots, and in every case where we've looked at in Georgia, all across the country the printed ballot, the gold standard in election security, has matched the electronic tally."

Yeah, Brian Kemp is a giant POS. We knew this after he suppressed votes (as SoS) that won him the governor's mansion. He was also a fervent supporter of Trump, and Trump backed him on numerous occasions. Are you saying one of Trump's political BFFs sabotaged him?

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Yeah, Brian Kemp is a giant POS. We knew this after he suppressed votes (as SoS) that won him the governor's mansion. He was also a fervent supporter of Trump, and Trump backed him on numerous occasions. Are you saying one of Trump's political BFFs sabotaged him?

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that's what this has turned into since no evidence can be produced. It's not just the democrats in on the conspiracy, it's all the trump appointed judges, it's Republicans in these states that have supported Trump and been praised by Trump in the past, it's the Trump appointed FBI and justice department. They are all part of the deep state cabal trying to remove Trump from office.

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No evidence. Lol.

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PackBacker07 said:

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Yeah, Brian Kemp is a giant POS. We knew this after he suppressed votes (as SoS) that won him the governor's mansion. He was also a fervent supporter of Trump, and Trump backed him on numerous occasions. Are you saying one of Trump's political BFFs sabotaged him?

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that's what this has turned into since no evidence can be produced. It's not just the democrats in on the conspiracy, it's all the trump appointed judges, it's Republicans in these states that have supported Trump and been praised by Trump in the past, it's the Trump appointed FBI and justice department. They are all part of the deep state cabal trying to remove Trump from office.

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No evidence. Lol.

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Zero. Zero evidence that the results of the selection or anything but legitimate. Zero evidence that there was any sort of fraud that allow Biden to win. Zero evidence that Trump would have won if not for what piddly amount of questionable stuff they have found.

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Dmax95 said:

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PackBacker07 said:

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Yeah, Brian Kemp is a giant POS. We knew this after he suppressed votes (as SoS) that won him the governor's mansion. He was also a fervent supporter of Trump, and Trump backed him on numerous occasions. Are you saying one of Trump's political BFFs sabotaged him?

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that's what this has turned into since no evidence can be produced. It's not just the democrats in on the conspiracy, it's all the trump appointed judges, it's Republicans in these states that have supported Trump and been praised by Trump in the past, it's the Trump appointed FBI and justice department. They are all part of the deep state cabal trying to remove Trump from office.

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No evidence. Lol.

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Zero. Zero evidence that the results of the selection or anything but legitimate. Zero evidence that there was any sort of fraud that allow Biden to win. Zero evidence that Trump would have won if not for what piddly amount of questionable stuff they have found.

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I pity people who think there's no issues. We're on our way to a banana republic and voting will be irrelevant. Hunger games scenario one day. One ruler no voting

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Pacfanweb said:

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Dmax95 said:

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jadawson said:

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PackBacker07 said:

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Yeah, Brian Kemp is a giant POS. We knew this after he suppressed votes (as SoS) that won him the governor's mansion. He was also a fervent supporter of Trump, and Trump backed him on numerous occasions. Are you saying one of Trump's political BFFs sabotaged him?

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that's what this has turned into since no evidence can be produced. It's not just the democrats in on the conspiracy, it's all the trump appointed judges, it's Republicans in these states that have supported Trump and been praised by Trump in the past, it's the Trump appointed FBI and justice department. They are all part of the deep state cabal trying to remove Trump from office.

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No evidence. Lol.

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Zero. Zero evidence that the results of the selection or anything but legitimate. Zero evidence that there was any sort of fraud that allow Biden to win. Zero evidence that Trump would have won if not for what piddly amount of questionable stuff they have found.

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I pity people who think there's no issues. We're on our way to a banana republic and voting will be irrelevant. Hunger games scenario one day. One ruler no voting

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I agree, it's sad. The media is gaslighting everyone and they're gobbling it up. People don't realize how serious this is. You lose fair elections than you don't have a country. But man you should see the brickyard on TOS. That place has gone to hell.

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Dmax95 said:

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Dmax95 said:

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jadawson said:

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PackBacker07 said:

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Yeah, Brian Kemp is a giant POS. We knew this after he suppressed votes (as SoS) that won him the governor's mansion. He was also a fervent supporter of Trump, and Trump backed him on numerous occasions. Are you saying one of Trump's political BFFs sabotaged him?

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that's what this has turned into since no evidence can be produced. It's not just the democrats in on the conspiracy, it's all the trump appointed judges, it's Republicans in these states that have supported Trump and been praised by Trump in the past, it's the Trump appointed FBI and justice department. They are all part of the deep state cabal trying to remove Trump from office.

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No evidence. Lol.

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Zero. Zero evidence that the results of the selection or anything but legitimate. Zero evidence that there was any sort of fraud that allow Biden to win. Zero evidence that Trump would have won if not for what piddly amount of questionable stuff they have found.

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I pity people who think there's no issues. We're on our way to a banana republic and voting will be irrelevant. Hunger games scenario one day. One ruler no voting

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I agree, it's sad. The media is gaslighting everyone and they're gobbling it up. People don't realize how serious this is. You lose fair elections than you don't have a country. But man you should see the brickyard on TOS. That place has gone to hell.

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the media has nothing to do with it. Individual states certify their own elections and that is what is happening. Arizona certified, Nevada certified, Georgia certified, Wisconsin did a recount and Biden's lead grew afterwards and certified. The lack of trust in the elections is comin from one place and its not the state's themselves it's the twitter propaganda machine that is moving over to Parler.

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ncsualum05 said:

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Dmax95 said:

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jadawson said:

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PackBacker07 said:

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Yeah, Brian Kemp is a giant POS. We knew this after he suppressed votes (as SoS) that won him the governor's mansion. He was also a fervent supporter of Trump, and Trump backed him on numerous occasions. Are you saying one of Trump's political BFFs sabotaged him?

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that's what this has turned into since no evidence can be produced. It's not just the democrats in on the conspiracy, it's all the trump appointed judges, it's Republicans in these states that have supported Trump and been praised by Trump in the past, it's the Trump appointed FBI and justice department. They are all part of the deep state cabal trying to remove Trump from office.

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No evidence. Lol.

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Zero. Zero evidence that the results of the selection or anything but legitimate. Zero evidence that there was any sort of fraud that allow Biden to win. Zero evidence that Trump would have won if not for what piddly amount of questionable stuff they have found.

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I pity people who think there's no issues. We're on our way to a banana republic and voting will be irrelevant. Hunger games scenario one day. One ruler no voting

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I agree, it's sad. The media is gaslighting everyone and they're gobbling it up. People don't realize how serious this is. You lose fair elections than you don't have a country. But man you should see the brickyard on TOS. That place has gone to hell.

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the media has nothing to do with it. Individual states certify their own elections and that is what is happening. Arizona certified, Nevada certified, Georgia certified, Wisconsin did a recount and Biden's lead grew afterwards and certified. The lack of trust in the elections is comin from one place and its not the state's themselves it's the twitter propaganda machine that is moving over to Parler.

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Sure thing man. Half the country doesn't realize they're being played. Trump is the pvot point.

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Pacfanweb said:

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Dmax95 said:

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jadawson said:

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PackBacker07 said:

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Yeah, Brian Kemp is a giant POS. We knew this after he suppressed votes (as SoS) that won him the governor's mansion. He was also a fervent supporter of Trump, and Trump backed him on numerous occasions. Are you saying one of Trump's political BFFs sabotaged him?

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that's what this has turned into since no evidence can be produced. It's not just the democrats in on the conspiracy, it's all the trump appointed judges, it's Republicans in these states that have supported Trump and been praised by Trump in the past, it's the Trump appointed FBI and justice department. They are all part of the deep state cabal trying to remove Trump from office.

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No evidence. Lol.

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Zero. Zero evidence that the results of the selection or anything but legitimate. Zero evidence that there was any sort of fraud that allow Biden to win. Zero evidence that Trump would have won if not for what piddly amount of questionable stuff they have found.

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I pity people who think there's no issues. We're on our way to a banana republic and voting will be irrelevant. Hunger games scenario one day. One ruler no voting

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Thanks to people like Trump, yes. If he had his way that's exactly what we would do.

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Dmax95 said:

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Dmax95 said:

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jadawson said:

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Yeah, Brian Kemp is a giant POS. We knew this after he suppressed votes (as SoS) that won him the governor's mansion. He was also a fervent supporter of Trump, and Trump backed him on numerous occasions. Are you saying one of Trump's political BFFs sabotaged him?

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that's what this has turned into since no evidence can be produced. It's not just the democrats in on the conspiracy, it's all the trump appointed judges, it's Republicans in these states that have supported Trump and been praised by Trump in the past, it's the Trump appointed FBI and justice department. They are all part of the deep state cabal trying to remove Trump from office.

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No evidence. Lol.

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Zero. Zero evidence that the results of the selection or anything but legitimate. Zero evidence that there was any sort of fraud that allow Biden to win. Zero evidence that Trump would have won if not for what piddly amount of questionable stuff they have found.

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I pity people who think there's no issues. We're on our way to a banana republic and voting will be irrelevant. Hunger games scenario one day. One ruler no voting

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I agree, it's sad. The media is gaslighting everyone and they're gobbling it up. People don't realize how serious this is. You lose fair elections than you don't have a country. But man you should see the brickyard on TOS. That place has gone to hell.

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the media has nothing to do with it. Individual states certify their own elections and that is what is happening. Arizona certified, Nevada certified, Georgia certified, Wisconsin did a recount and Biden's lead grew afterwards and certified. The lack of trust in the elections is comin from one place and its not the state's themselves it's the twitter propaganda machine that is moving over to Parler.

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Sure thing man. Half the country doesn't realize they're being played. Trump is the pvot point.

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lol what? What resistance do you think im claiming to be a part of? Im of the very mainstream opinion that the election results are legitimate. The people (like you) grasping at fraudulent straws holding out hope that your guy will win are the ones trying to "resist" against the "corrupt system".

I think you just got that off your heavily curated right wing twitter feed and laughed but don't actually understand what its trying to say....

I don't have a single political affiliation. I work in the markets and follow the money. It's easy to tell who is getting played. The masses. Too bad you can't see it from my perspective. No worries.

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Dmax95 said:

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jadawson said:

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PackBacker07 said:

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Yeah, Brian Kemp is a giant POS. We knew this after he suppressed votes (as SoS) that won him the governor's mansion. He was also a fervent supporter of Trump, and Trump backed him on numerous occasions. Are you saying one of Trump's political BFFs sabotaged him?

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that's what this has turned into since no evidence can be produced. It's not just the democrats in on the conspiracy, it's all the trump appointed judges, it's Republicans in these states that have supported Trump and been praised by Trump in the past, it's the Trump appointed FBI and justice department. They are all part of the deep state cabal trying to remove Trump from office.

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No evidence. Lol.

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Zero. Zero evidence that the results of the selection or anything but legitimate. Zero evidence that there was any sort of fraud that allow Biden to win. Zero evidence that Trump would have won if not for what piddly amount of questionable stuff they have found.

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I pity people who think there's no issues. We're on our way to a banana republic and voting will be irrelevant. Hunger games scenario one day. One ruler no voting

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I agree, it's sad. The media is gaslighting everyone and they're gobbling it up. People don't realize how serious this is. You lose fair elections than you don't have a country. But man you should see the brickyard on TOS. That place has gone to hell.

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Trump is the one gaslighting everyone on the election.

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I don't have a single political affiliation. I work in the markets and follow the money. It's easy to tell who is getting played. The masses. Too bad you can't see it from my perspective. No worries.

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if you want to talk about corporations running politics i have no problem doing that but it doesn't belong in this thread because it has nothing to do with election fraud. That goalpost is on a whole different field entirely

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I don't have a single political affiliation. I work in the markets and follow the money. It's easy to tell who is getting played. The masses. Too bad you can't see it from my perspective. No worries.

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if you want to talk about corporations running politics i have no problem doing that but it doesn't belong in this thread because it has nothing to do with election fraud. That goalpost is on a whole different field entirely

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Maybe your naive but if covid and lockdowns as a reaction to a virus China released after they lost the trade war negotiations isn't obvious how if affected the whole election then so be it. Without all the mail in voting , economic damage, constant over reaction to a virus with 99.7% survival rate, and blaming trump like) Biden would have done better), is the fraud. Clearly you and some here can't see it. No worries. It's a big fraud. Follow the money and media to see such. That's all I got. Not my job to open eyes.

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Dmax95 said:

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I don't have a single political affiliation. I work in the markets and follow the money. It's easy to tell who is getting played. The masses. Too bad you can't see it from my perspective. No worries.

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if you want to talk about corporations running politics i have no problem doing that but it doesn't belong in this thread because it has nothing to do with election fraud. That goalpost is on a whole different field entirely

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Maybe your naive but if covid and lockdowns as a reaction to a virus China released after they lost the trade war negotiations isn't obvious how if affected the whole election then so be it. Without all the mail in voting , economic damage, constant over reaction to a virus with 99.7% survival rate, and blaming trump like) Biden would have done better), is the fraud. Clearly you and some here can't see it. No worries. It's a big fraud. Follow the money and media to see such. That's all I got. Not my job to open eyes.

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had to double check this wasn't the flat earth conspiracy guy....

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I don't have a single political affiliation. I work in the markets and follow the money. It's easy to tell who is getting played. The masses. Too bad you can't see it from my perspective. No worries.

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if you want to talk about corporations running politics i have no problem doing that but it doesn't belong in this thread because it has nothing to do with election fraud. That goalpost is on a whole different field entirely

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Maybe your naive but if covid and lockdowns as a reaction to a virus China released after they lost the trade war negotiations isn't obvious how if affected the whole election then so be it. Without all the mail in voting , economic damage, constant over reaction to a virus with 99.7% survival rate, and blaming trump like) Biden would have done better), is the fraud. Clearly you and some here can't see it. No worries. It's a big fraud. Follow the money and media to see such. That's all I got. Not my job to open eyes.

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had to double check this wasn't the flat earth conspiracy guy....

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Sure thing. Again I work in finance and follow the money. It paid to know. What's worse believing social
Media/big media blindly or flat earthing lol? Sorry to hear this requires a joke response but maybe it's tough being a sheep? I don't know. Cheers.

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I don't have a single political affiliation. I work in the markets and follow the money. It's easy to tell who is getting played. The masses. Too bad you can't see it from my perspective. No worries.

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if you want to talk about corporations running politics i have no problem doing that but it doesn't belong in this thread because it has nothing to do with election fraud. That goalpost is on a whole different field entirely

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Maybe your naive but if covid and lockdowns as a reaction to a virus China released after they lost the trade war negotiations isn't obvious how if affected the whole election then so be it. Without all the mail in voting , economic damage, constant over reaction to a virus with 99.7% survival rate, and blaming trump like) Biden would have done better), is the fraud. Clearly you and some here can't see it. No worries. It's a big fraud. Follow the money and media to see such. That's all I got. Not my job to open eyes.

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had to double check this wasn't the flat earth conspiracy guy....

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Sure thing. Again I work in finance and follow the money. It paid to know. What's worse believing social
Media/big media blindly or flat earthing lol? Sorry to hear this requires a joke response but maybe it's tough being a sheep? I don't know. Cheers.

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well i never said i believe blindly but i 100% believe this because the people claiming otherwise have time and time again been laughed out of court with their "evidence" against my view.

I'll just keep on being a sheep i guess. Must be nice to be so much smarter than everyone else.

Okie dokie. The truth is usually inconvenient to the masses. Not about intelligence. People are going to react like the lobster. It's Scary to leave the crab pot. Have a good one.

The courts would agree with you!

So Dmax, again with my question, you think some of Trump's staunchest allies in the GOP are also involved in this "plot" to steal the election from him? It's literally every person except him and drunk ass Rudy against all officials? Kemp and Ducey (AZ) included?

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So Dmax, again with my question, you think some of Trump's staunchest allies in the GOP are also involved in this "plot" to steal the election from him? It's literally every person except him and drunk ass Rudy against all officials? Kemp and Ducey (AZ) included?

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Do some homework. Staunch allies? Lol no. Check the issues yourself. If you don't think there's any issues as is. So be it. What's happening in plain sight is a joke, the rules changed before the election for covid, and the clear misinformation from large media/social media is scary.

People see what they want to see. Parse through all the evidence from other media's. You'll see issues. Surprising that some GOP folks would jump ship vs be attacked and ridiculed in the main stream? No. During primaries , One minute the media hates Kamala Harris now she's the queen. Media is fickle with its agenda however it serves their stakeholders. Big govt hated trump. This is no surprise. People again see what they want. If you don't see the whole picture that's on the masses. Again not a register for affiliated party member. Just see the country was cranking and doing well before covid. We're literally in a coup from the same goobers who wouldn't accept the 2016 results. All the same characters and players just going bonkers. If he loses so be it. The left will likely get smoked in 2022/2024 if they keep up this divisive, defund police, globalist , anti America agenda. Cheers ladies.

Some can't wait for the left to get away with these shenanigans, once they clear an election that has issues good luck with some of our freedoms and rights.

My question...in fact, probably everyone who actually is rational about this is:

If there's so much evidence about this election and that Trump really won "by a lot" as he said, where is it?

Why hasn't it been presented in court?

Do you all REALLY think that the wackos on Parler and other places somehow have access to this info
and the lawyers who have represented Trump do not?

You think if all that alleged (actually bogus) "evidence" was legit, that Trump's legal team wouldn't be laying it all out for the courts to see?

Because they haven't. Not a single one of these so-called bombshells has been presented to a judge. Every time a judge has asked "Are you saying there was fraud?" the response from Trump's attorney has been "Well, no".
Take the "US Army raided a server facility in Germany" Never happened. There isn't even a server facility related to anything to do with the US election there. It's all in the USA. But that got passed around for a good week, then *crickets* Because it wasn't true.
That's just one thing.

Where is the evidence? There isn't any, that's where. Time for some of you that are still capable to come back to reality and acknowledge that there simply just wasn't any widespread fraud, and that any funny business that did happen was isolated and not even relevant to the overall numbers....and that Trump was simply rejected by the American people.

Again, as I've stated before: Biden actually got .1% LESS of the popular vote than did Hillary. Trump also got .1% LESS than he did last time. But nearly 30 million more actually voted, hence...the overall numbers.

You're likely wrong. . Just wait for the Supreme Court to get involved. The lower courts trying to legislate from the bench vs do their jobs. Time will tell.

Whackos on Parler? Lol. Like there aren't whackos on all social media. You have to be an idiot to get your news from Facebook/MSM/Fox/CNN/CNBC/Wapo/NYT. George Carlin said.

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You're likely wrong. . Just wait for the Supreme Court to get involved. The lower courts trying to legislate from the bench vs do their jobs. Time will tell.

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Won't happen. The SC won't hear B.S.

Trump says his election challenges probably won't make it to the Supreme Court

"Well, the problem is, it's hard to get into the Supreme Court," Trump said on Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures," after host Maria Bartiromo asked him when he expected his challenges to make it to the justices."

Yeah, imagine that. The Supreme Court won't hear nonsense. Trump has presented literally ZERO evidence. There's no reason for the SC to hear it.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/29/trump-acknowledges-the-supreme-court-.html

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You're likely wrong. . Just wait for the Supreme Court to get involved. The lower courts trying to legislate from the bench vs do their jobs. Time will tell.

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Won't happen. The SC won't hear B.S.

Trump says his election challenges probably won't make it to the Supreme Court

"Well, the problem is, it's hard to get into the Supreme Court," Trump said on Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures," after host Maria Bartiromo asked him when he expected his challenges to make it to the justices."

Yeah, imagine that. The Supreme Court won't hear nonsense. Trump has presented literally ZERO evidence. There's no reason for the SC to hear it.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/29/trump-acknowledges-the-supreme-court-.html

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Clearly you missed what's going on in Pennsylvania. Alito opened the door. Takes one case. That's all to set the precedent. Not going to convince you of anything. Think you're going to change my mind? Save your breath hombre.

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You're likely wrong. . Just wait for the Supreme Court to get involved. The lower courts trying to legislate from the bench vs do their jobs. Time will tell.

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Won't happen. The SC won't hear B.S.

Trump says his election challenges probably won't make it to the Supreme Court

"Well, the problem is, it's hard to get into the Supreme Court," Trump said on Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures," after host Maria Bartiromo asked him when he expected his challenges to make it to the justices."

Yeah, imagine that. The Supreme Court won't hear nonsense. Trump has presented literally ZERO evidence. There's no reason for the SC to hear it.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/29/trump-acknowledges-the-supreme-court-.html

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Clearly you missed what's going on in Pennsylvania. Alito opened the door. Takes one case. That's all to set the precedent. Not going to convince you of anything. Think you're going to change my mind? Save your breath hombre.

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I would change my mind if there were any evidence. Trump has failed to provide any. They won't even utter the word "fraud" to a judge. They only do that on TV.

Let's say the Supreme Court said tomorrow "Okay, bring your case before us and present it"

What are they going to show them? Nothing. Because there IS nothing. If there was any evidence...again, they'd have already shown it.

How about this: What has Trump's team presented as evidence to any judge? We'll use Pennsylvania, since you think there's a chance there.
What did they present the court there?