With Michigan voting to certify today. GSA funding transition. Can we say that the election drama is over? I do not expect Trump supporters to stop looking for it or talking about a never proven fraud or at least when I write this proven. Thoughts?

Trump's Emily Murphy tweet is as close to a concession as you're going to get, but enough to think that the circus sideshow is about over. The only real drama since the days after the election has been the number of political land mines Trump will leave on his way out the door.

True dat

When a nut starts getting rid of nuts....the end is near.

Sydney Powell - GONE, she's on her own

Trump legal team disavows association with lawyer Sidney Powell

Hugo Chvez lives in the mountains of NC and he's building a rocket to go to the moon.

part of the Mattlock team or not part of the Mattlock team? Mattlock was no Trumpet!

Trump's Elite Strike Force throws Powell off the Raft

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That is the data the everyone keeps talking about in the circles I run in. You will see the same type of spikes in Michigan coming out of Wayne County.

It could be a circumstance that it just happened that way; or, it could be the election fraud people are talking about. I'm sure, some on here are going to say: move on, nothing to see here...

Nonetheless, this should be investigated!

ciscopack said:

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When a nut starts getting rid of nuts....the end is near.

Sydney Powell - GONE, she's on her own

Trump legal team disavows association with lawyer Sidney Powell

Hugo Chvez lives in the mountains of NC and he's building a rocket to go to the moon.

part of the Mattlock team or not part of the Mattlock team? Mattlock was no Trumpet!

Trump's Elite Strike Force throws Powell off the Raft

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Factually not True! Getting your news from Seth Meyers now?

caryking said:

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ciscopack said:

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When a nut starts getting rid of nuts....the end is near.

Sydney Powell - GONE, she's on her own

Trump legal team disavows association with lawyer Sidney Powell

Hugo Chvez lives in the mountains of NC and he's building a rocket to go to the moon.

part of the Mattlock team or not part of the Mattlock team? Mattlock was no Trumpet!

Trump's Elite Strike Force throws Powell off the Raft

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Factually not True! Getting your news from Seth Meyers now?

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"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," it said in a statement. "She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity."

" Definition of disavow
transitive verb

1: to deny responsibility for : REPUDIATE
disavowed the actions of his subordinates
2: to refuse to acknowledge or accept : DISCLAIM
party leaders disavowed him"

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caryking said:

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ciscopack said:

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When a nut starts getting rid of nuts....the end is near.

Sydney Powell - GONE, she's on her own

Trump legal team disavows association with lawyer Sidney Powell

Hugo Chvez lives in the mountains of NC and he's building a rocket to go to the moon.

part of the Mattlock team or not part of the Mattlock team? Mattlock was no Trumpet!

Trump's Elite Strike Force throws Powell off the Raft

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Factually not True! Getting your news from Seth Meyers now?

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"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," it said in a statement. "She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity."

" Definition of disavow
transitive verb

1: to deny responsibility for : REPUDIATE
disavowed the actions of his subordinates
2: to refuse to acknowledge or accept : DISCLAIM
party leaders disavowed him"

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Again, you have no clue. Quit watching the CNN type news media. Sydney is no longer encumbered by her relationship with the Trump team. She is working on, as I understand, a bigger, longer term legal action that could end up being a criminal complaint.

She has pissed off the establishment Republicans with what I think she is about to do. Personally, if it's all true, I hope she brings down the establishment people...

caryking said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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caryking said:

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ciscopack said:

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When a nut starts getting rid of nuts....the end is near.

Sydney Powell - GONE, she's on her own

Trump legal team disavows association with lawyer Sidney Powell

Hugo Chvez lives in the mountains of NC and he's building a rocket to go to the moon.

part of the Mattlock team or not part of the Mattlock team? Mattlock was no Trumpet!

Trump's Elite Strike Force throws Powell off the Raft

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Factually not True! Getting your news from Seth Meyers now?

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"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," it said in a statement. "She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity."

" Definition of disavow
transitive verb

1: to deny responsibility for : REPUDIATE
disavowed the actions of his subordinates
2: to refuse to acknowledge or accept : DISCLAIM
party leaders disavowed him"

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Again, you have no clue. Quit watching the CNN type news media. Sydney is no longer encumbered by her relationship with the Trump team. She is working on, as I understand, a bigger, longer term legal action that could end up being a criminal complaint.

She has pissed off the establishment Republicans with what I think she is about to do. Personally, if it's all true, I hope she brings down the establishment people...

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Sidney Powell and her group filed two lawsuits last night. One in Georgia and one in Michigan. Of course twitter is censoring the link on her twitter page. Oh the left loves them some censorship, but they will not prevail. Here is the link to her web site "Defending the Republic." You can read both lawsuits there.

https://www.defendingtherepublic.org

DrummerboyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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caryking said:

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ciscopack said:

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When a nut starts getting rid of nuts....the end is near.

Sydney Powell - GONE, she's on her own

Trump legal team disavows association with lawyer Sidney Powell

Hugo Chvez lives in the mountains of NC and he's building a rocket to go to the moon.

part of the Mattlock team or not part of the Mattlock team? Mattlock was no Trumpet!

Trump's Elite Strike Force throws Powell off the Raft

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Factually not True! Getting your news from Seth Meyers now?

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"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," it said in a statement. "She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity."

" Definition of disavow
transitive verb

1: to deny responsibility for : REPUDIATE
disavowed the actions of his subordinates
2: to refuse to acknowledge or accept : DISCLAIM
party leaders disavowed him"

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Again, you have no clue. Quit watching the CNN type news media. Sydney is no longer encumbered by her relationship with the Trump team. She is working on, as I understand, a bigger, longer term legal action that could end up being a criminal complaint.

She has pissed off the establishment Republicans with what I think she is about to do. Personally, if it's all true, I hope she brings down the establishment people...

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Sidney Powell and her group filed two lawsuits last night. One in Georgia and one in Michigan. Of course twitter is censoring the link on her twitter page. Oh the left loves them some censorship, but they will not prevail. Here is the link to her web site "Defending the Republic." You can read both lawsuits there.

https://www.defendingtherepublic.org

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And she is calling out Republicans as well...

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/sidney-powell-sues-georgia-officials-alleging-massive-scheme-rig-election

And another lawsuit in Georgia from non profit Amistad Project.

Excellent point about how Establishment Republicans are part of the problem. The leadership of the Republican party, by and large, are traitors to the conservative movement, and actually closet Leftists -- eg, guys like Paul Ryan, George W. Bush, and past nominees Mitt Romney and John McCain. They only pretend to be conservatives (with their rhetoric), and then actually support mostly big government and many leftist policies once in office -- such as John McCain and George W Bush supporting amnesty for illegal immigrants, and Romney and McCain defending socialized health care (Obamacare), etc.

These rigged elections have been going on for decades. In 2018, the Democrats stole scores of seats in the House of Representatives with these same tactics -- hundreds of thousands of fraudulent mail-in ballots, vote-flipping software in the "counting" machines, etc.

In many cases, the Republicans and Democrats are on the same "team". They are both working towards the same agenda -- socialism, globalism and the "New World Order".

For example, look at how the top Republicans in Georgia seem to be going along with the election fraud in Georgia -- such as the Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger. That guy seems to be a clear RINO fake conservative.

That said, the Republican party is not 100% controlled opposition traitors. There are many "good guys" in the party who are genuine conservatives and doing their best to oppose the leftist/Establishment agenda.

caryking said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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caryking said:

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ciscopack said:

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When a nut starts getting rid of nuts....the end is near.

Sydney Powell - GONE, she's on her own

Trump legal team disavows association with lawyer Sidney Powell

Hugo Chvez lives in the mountains of NC and he's building a rocket to go to the moon.

part of the Mattlock team or not part of the Mattlock team? Mattlock was no Trumpet!

Trump's Elite Strike Force throws Powell off the Raft

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Factually not True! Getting your news from Seth Meyers now?

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"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," it said in a statement. "She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity."

" Definition of disavow
transitive verb

1: to deny responsibility for : REPUDIATE
disavowed the actions of his subordinates
2: to refuse to acknowledge or accept : DISCLAIM
party leaders disavowed him"

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Again, you have no clue. Quit watching the CNN type news media. Sydney is no longer encumbered by her relationship with the Trump team. She is working on, as I understand, a bigger, longer term legal action that could end up being a criminal complaint.

She has pissed off the establishment Republicans with what I think she is about to do. Personally, if it's all true, I hope she brings down the establishment people...

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I don't watch any news.

I suspect she is a crackpot. However, if, and that's a galactic-sized "IF", she has an evidence (which I doubt, or it'd be out now) and what she's alleging is true, then it's the biggest story since the "Japs Surrender".

And every single legit news media outlet of any political persuasion has missed it.

Which I highly doubt, but I guess we'll see. I wouldn't mind the "establishment" being cut down to size at all.

I just think that election fraud of this magnitude is as likely as the existence of thetans or a flat earth. Which is zero.

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Excellent point about how Establishment Republicans are part of the problem. The leadership of the Republican party, by and large, are traitors to the conservative movement, and actually closet Leftists -- eg, guys like Paul Ryan, George W. Bush, and past nominees Mitt Romney and John McCain. They only pretend to be conservatives (with their rhetoric), and then actually support mostly big government and many leftist policies once in office -- such as John McCain and George W Bush supporting amnesty for illegal immigrants, and Romney and McCain defending socialized health care (Obamacare), etc.

These rigged elections have been going on for decades. In 2018, the Democrats stole scores of seats in the House of Representatives with these same tactics -- hundreds of thousands of fraudulent mail-in ballots, vote-flipping software in the "counting" machines, etc.

In many cases, the Republicans and Democrats are on the same "team". They are both working towards the same agenda -- socialism, globalism and the "New World Order".

That said, the Republican party is not 100% controlled opposition traitors. There are many "good guys" in the party who are genuine conservatives and doing their best to oppose the leftist/Establishment agenda.

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It's exactly why the Republican Party hates MAGA people. MAGA people are nothing more that an extension of the Tea Party. People that are tired of the establishment from both Republicans and Democrats. Unfortunately, these people have to align with something that can WIN!

Trump was the only thing that stood out as an opponent of the establishment!

Pacfanweb said:

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caryking said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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caryking said:

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ciscopack said:

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When a nut starts getting rid of nuts....the end is near.

Sydney Powell - GONE, she's on her own

Trump legal team disavows association with lawyer Sidney Powell

Hugo Chvez lives in the mountains of NC and he's building a rocket to go to the moon.

part of the Mattlock team or not part of the Mattlock team? Mattlock was no Trumpet!

Trump's Elite Strike Force throws Powell off the Raft

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Factually not True! Getting your news from Seth Meyers now?

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"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," it said in a statement. "She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity."

" Definition of disavow
transitive verb

1: to deny responsibility for : REPUDIATE
disavowed the actions of his subordinates
2: to refuse to acknowledge or accept : DISCLAIM
party leaders disavowed him"

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Again, you have no clue. Quit watching the CNN type news media. Sydney is no longer encumbered by her relationship with the Trump team. She is working on, as I understand, a bigger, longer term legal action that could end up being a criminal complaint.

She has pissed off the establishment Republicans with what I think she is about to do. Personally, if it's all true, I hope she brings down the establishment people...

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I don't watch any news.

I suspect she is a crackpot. However, if, and that's a galactic-sized "IF", she has an evidence (which I doubt, or it'd be out now) and what she's alleging is true, then it's the biggest story since the "Japs Surrender".

And every single legit news media outlet of any political persuasion has missed it.

Which I highly doubt, but I guess we'll see. I wouldn't mind the "establishment" being cut down to size at all.

I just think that election fraud of this magnitude is as likely as the existence of thetans or a flat earth. Which is zero.

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I believe you to be sorely mistaken on this one. Sidney Powell is a very distinguished former Federal prosecutor. For many years, she said General Flynn was framed and she was right. Why would she risk her sterling reputation for this unless she knew what she was talking about and had the goods. You may not like the way things have gone down, but she is relentless and has evidence.

The reason you don't hear any news stories from "reputable sources" because she has held her cards close and the news media is trying to fit the narrative that Biden won and is President Elect. Even Fox News is in on it and their ratings are dropping like a rock. That cannot be further from the truth. Until the electors vote it's not final.

Usually your arguments are coherent, but again I believe you to be completely wrong on this one. You should watch the hearing that the Pennsylvania State Senate had and Gettysburg yesterday and then tell me there is no evidence. One of the State Senators, Colonel Douglas Mastriano had his personal twitter page suspended because of what he said. Big tech and media are censoring everything. You have to dig deep to get voices of truth.

Happy Thanksgiving to all. I will not be responding for several days. The election is not over, no matter what you hear.

DrummerboyWolf said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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caryking said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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caryking said:

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ciscopack said:

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When a nut starts getting rid of nuts....the end is near.

Sydney Powell - GONE, she's on her own

Trump legal team disavows association with lawyer Sidney Powell

Hugo Chvez lives in the mountains of NC and he's building a rocket to go to the moon.

part of the Mattlock team or not part of the Mattlock team? Mattlock was no Trumpet!

Trump's Elite Strike Force throws Powell off the Raft

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Factually not True! Getting your news from Seth Meyers now?

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"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," it said in a statement. "She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity."

" Definition of disavow
transitive verb

1: to deny responsibility for : REPUDIATE
disavowed the actions of his subordinates
2: to refuse to acknowledge or accept : DISCLAIM
party leaders disavowed him"

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Again, you have no clue. Quit watching the CNN type news media. Sydney is no longer encumbered by her relationship with the Trump team. She is working on, as I understand, a bigger, longer term legal action that could end up being a criminal complaint.

She has pissed off the establishment Republicans with what I think she is about to do. Personally, if it's all true, I hope she brings down the establishment people...

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I don't watch any news.

I suspect she is a crackpot. However, if, and that's a galactic-sized "IF", she has an evidence (which I doubt, or it'd be out now) and what she's alleging is true, then it's the biggest story since the "Japs Surrender".

And every single legit news media outlet of any political persuasion has missed it.

Which I highly doubt, but I guess we'll see. I wouldn't mind the "establishment" being cut down to size at all.

I just think that election fraud of this magnitude is as likely as the existence of thetans or a flat earth. Which is zero.

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I believe you to be sorely mistaken on this one. Sidney Powell is a very distinguished former Federal prosecutor. For many years, she said General Flynn was framed and she was right. Why would she risk her sterling reputation for this unless she knew what she was talking about and had the goods. You may not like the way things have gone down, but she is relentless and has evidence.

The reason you don't hear any news stories from "reputable sources" because she has held her cards close and the news media is trying to fit the narrative that Biden won and is President Elect. Even Fox News is in on it and their ratings are dropping like a rock. That cannot be further from the truth. Until the electors vote it's not final.

Usually your arguments are coherent, but again I believe you to be completely wrong on this one. You should watch the hearing that the Pennsylvania State Senate had and Gettysburg yesterday and then tell me there is no evidence. One of the State Senators, Colonel Douglas Mastriano had his personal twitter page suspended because of what he said. Big tech and media are censoring everything. You have to dig deep to get voices of truth.

Happy Thanksgiving to all. I will not be responding for several days. The election is not over, no matter what you hear.

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The election is over. Let me know when Sidney Powell finds the connection between Hugo Chavez and Dominion voting machines and Joe Biden. The woman is bat $hi+ crazy. And oh how was General Flynn Framed? He lied to Mike Pence about what he was doing. So he did not to Bob Mueller and his team? Framed? If Sidney Powell had any shred of evidence it would be out there.
Turn out the lights! Trumps reelection is done. The party is over!

Wolfpackrich1 said:

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DrummerboyWolf said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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caryking said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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caryking said:

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ciscopack said:

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When a nut starts getting rid of nuts....the end is near.

Sydney Powell - GONE, she's on her own

Trump legal team disavows association with lawyer Sidney Powell

Hugo Chvez lives in the mountains of NC and he's building a rocket to go to the moon.

part of the Mattlock team or not part of the Mattlock team? Mattlock was no Trumpet!

Trump's Elite Strike Force throws Powell off the Raft

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Factually not True! Getting your news from Seth Meyers now?

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"Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own," it said in a statement. "She is not a member of the Trump legal team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity."

" Definition of disavow
transitive verb

1: to deny responsibility for : REPUDIATE
disavowed the actions of his subordinates
2: to refuse to acknowledge or accept : DISCLAIM
party leaders disavowed him"

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Again, you have no clue. Quit watching the CNN type news media. Sydney is no longer encumbered by her relationship with the Trump team. She is working on, as I understand, a bigger, longer term legal action that could end up being a criminal complaint.

She has pissed off the establishment Republicans with what I think she is about to do. Personally, if it's all true, I hope she brings down the establishment people...

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I don't watch any news.

I suspect she is a crackpot. However, if, and that's a galactic-sized "IF", she has an evidence (which I doubt, or it'd be out now) and what she's alleging is true, then it's the biggest story since the "Japs Surrender".

And every single legit news media outlet of any political persuasion has missed it.

Which I highly doubt, but I guess we'll see. I wouldn't mind the "establishment" being cut down to size at all.

I just think that election fraud of this magnitude is as likely as the existence of thetans or a flat earth. Which is zero.

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I believe you to be sorely mistaken on this one. Sidney Powell is a very distinguished former Federal prosecutor. For many years, she said General Flynn was framed and she was right. Why would she risk her sterling reputation for this unless she knew what she was talking about and had the goods. You may not like the way things have gone down, but she is relentless and has evidence.

The reason you don't hear any news stories from "reputable sources" because she has held her cards close and the news media is trying to fit the narrative that Biden won and is President Elect. Even Fox News is in on it and their ratings are dropping like a rock. That cannot be further from the truth. Until the electors vote it's not final.

Usually your arguments are coherent, but again I believe you to be completely wrong on this one. You should watch the hearing that the Pennsylvania State Senate had and Gettysburg yesterday and then tell me there is no evidence. One of the State Senators, Colonel Douglas Mastriano had his personal twitter page suspended because of what he said. Big tech and media are censoring everything. You have to dig deep to get voices of truth.

Happy Thanksgiving to all. I will not be responding for several days. The election is not over, no matter what you hear.

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The election is over. Let me know when Sidney Powell finds the connection between Hugo Chavez and Dominion voting machines and Joe Biden. The woman is bat $hi+ crazy. And oh how was General Flynn Framed? He lied to Mike Pence about what he was doing. So he did not to Bob Mueller and his team? Framed? If Sidney Powell had any shred of evidence it would be out there.
Turn out the lights! Trumps reelection is done. The party is over!

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Michael Flynn issue is over! Turn out the lights! The party is over!

Sidney Powell just issued two complaints 1) in Georgia 2) in Michigan. They are easy to find. Go read them for a complete understand of the evidence they have. Or, don't and keep saying she is Bat **** Crazy. Your choice...

Georgia Lawsuit: Witness Testifies About Use of Different Paper For 'Counterfeit' Ballots, 'Watermark Solid Grey Instead of Transparent' 100% For Joe Biden

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/georgia-lawsuit-witness-testifies-use-different-paper-counterfeit-ballots-watermark-solid-grey-instead-transparent-100-joe-biden/

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I noticed that almost all of the ballots I reviewed were for Biden. Many batches went 100% for Biden. I also observed that the watermark on at least 3 ballots were solid gray instead of transparent, leading me to believe the ballot was counterfeit. I challenged this and the Elections Director said it was a legitimate ballot and was due to the use of different printers. Many ballots had markings for Biden only, and no markings on the rest of the ballot.

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Another affiant (same witness who gave sworn statement in Wood v. Raffensperger) explained she observed batches of pristine ballots with different texture paper with machine-stamped bubbles that went 98% for Joe Biden:

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More Suspicious Elections Absentee Data from Detroit: 36% of Absentee Ballots Returned Were From People Who Were Not Listed as Being Sent an Absentee Ballot

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/suspicious-elections-absentee-data-detroit-36-absentee-ballots-returned-people-not-listed-sent-absentee-ballot/

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400% More Detroiters Missing Data on When they Requested their Absentee Ballots than Normal

An anomaly in the election data could be an indication of massive absentee voter fraud in Detroit, and accounts for more votes than the difference between Trump and Biden in Michigan.

The rate of missing data for when an absentee ballot was sent to a voter is four times greater in heavily Democrat Detroit/Wayne County than in the rest of the state.

Of the 566,788 absentee ballots cast in Wayne County, the absentee data file provided by the Michigan Secretary of State indicates that 203,311 ballots show that no application for an absentee ballot was mailed or sent to that voter by their local clerk, which is a rate of roughly 36%.

Of the remaining 2,719,718 absentee ballots outside of Wayne County (the statewide total minus the amount in Wayne County) there are 252,456 absentee ballots cast that show that no application for an absentee ballot was mailed or sent to that voter by their local clerk, a rate of roughly 9%. Meaning the Wayne County rate is four times higher than the rest of the state of Michigan.

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Trump and his oompa loompa cast of lawyers can keep bringing these lawsuits till the end of time. Until the bring concrete evidence that a Judge will recognize as fact it is a losing cause. Biden will be sworn in as the 46th President of the ZUS at 12:01 pm 01-20-2021

No election in U.S. history has been more blatantly fraudulent than this one. It's off the charts. 130,000+ votes showing up at 3 am mail-in ballot dumps, with 100% of those ballots for Biden? The Demonrats were cheating in every way possible. Trump actually won this election in a landslide.

Even if you are a Democrat, you must oppose this level of election fraud. Otherwise, we don't even really have elections. We essentially just have an entrenched Establishment that remains in power with sham/rigged elections, and the people actually have no power -- and we live in a communist banana republic type nation.

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No election in U.S. history has been more blatantly fraudulent than this one. It's off the charts. 130,000+ votes showing up at 3 am mail-in ballot dumps, with 100% of those ballots for Biden? The Demonrats were cheating in every way possible. Trump actually won this election in a landslide.

Even if you are a Democrat, you must oppose this level of election fraud. Otherwise, we don't even really have elections. We essentially just have an entrenched Establishment that remains in power with sham/rigged elections, and the people actually have no power -- and we live in a communist banana republic type nation.

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Where's the documented proof? What have the courts had to say. If the democrats were cheating why did we lose the US Senate in SC and Kentucky? To me that was more important than winning the WH If I'm cheating the first 2 I'm taking out are McConnell and Graham

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More people voted in this election...must be fraud!

jadawson said:

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Ding, Ding, Ding... you just said what we all know.

On election night in 2012, when President Barack Obama was reelected, Trump said that the election was a "total sham" and a "travesty," while also making the claim that the United States is "not a democracy" after Obama secured his victory.

Trump even wrote on Twitter, "We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!"
MORE: Donald Trump's 2012 Election Tweetstorm Resurfaces as Popular and Electoral Vote Appear Divided


There was no truth to the claims that Obama's election victory against Sen. Mitt Romney was a "sham" and the democratic process played out in 2012 as it is doing now and has with every election, as the votes are tabulated and certified by states and local officials.

Trump also previously called for the American people, presumably those who didn't vote for Obama, to "fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice," because "the world is laughing at us."

Trump first challenged the election results in 2012, continued to do so in 2016 and has now done it again in 2020.
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2016 primary and general election


When he ran to become the Republican Party nominee in 2016, he attempted to cast doubt on the election process. Trump said he did not lose the Iowa caucuses in 2016 to then candidate Sen. Ted Cruz, because he "stole it."

"Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa, he stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!" Trump wrote on Twitter at the time.
He also wrote, "Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified."

Cruz was the clear victor for the Republican Iowa caucus in 2016, as he defeated Trump by three percentage points.

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In October 2016, just weeks before the general election, Trump wanted to cast doubt on the results by tweeting, "The election is absolutely being rigged by the dishonest and distorted media pushing Crooked Hillary - but also at many polling places - SAD," without providing any evidence for the claim.

Even after the election ended and it was clear that Clinton had lost and conceded victory to Trump, the president didn't stop lamenting over the election he had won. He quickly made the claim that he also won the popular vote over Clinton, which is something that did not happen.

"In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally," said Trump.

The president lost the popular vote to Clinton by nearly 3 million votes, and there was no evidence of voter fraud then, just as there is no evidence of voter fraud now.
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2020 general election
Fast forward to today, Trump took to his favorite platform, just moments before major media outlets had projected Biden the winner in this year's election, and falsely tweeted, "I WON THIS ELECTION, BY A LOT!"
That tweet was flagged by Twitter because Trump was not declared the victor, and because for months since his rally on Aug. 17 in Oshkosh, Wisconsin -- when he famously said, "The only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged" -- Trump has been attempting to cast doubt on the American electoral process.

Trump continued to attack mail-in ballots and absentee ballots well into the fall months so that when the ballots were to be tabulated, he could cast doubt and speculate that he was the victim of fraud due to the vote-by-mail system.

On Twitter, the day after Election Day, as Biden's lead was becoming more evident in several states, Trump tweeted, "They are finding Biden votes all over the place in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. So bad for our Country!'

The next day, the president made the claim that he has always said mail-in ballots are not to be trusted.
"I've been talking about mail-in voting for a long time. It's -- it's really destroyed our system. It's a corrupt system. And it makes people corrupt even if they aren't by nature, but they become corrupt; it's too easy. They want to find out how many votes they need, and then they seem to be able to find them. They wait and wait and then they find them," Trump said two days after Election Day.
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All the Trump officials who have voted by mail

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This is cherry picking data trying to paint a narrative.
First, why pick 2008, when Obama was running against McCain, an extremely popular Arizona senator?
Second, the county population has grown by over 500,000 since then

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More people voted in this election...must be fraud!

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This is cherry picking data trying to paint a narrative.
First, why pick 2008, when Obama was running against McCain, an extremely popular Arizona senator?
Second, the county population has grown by over 500,000 since then

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The whole claim that there was this much fraud only works when you ignore all the facts. So they have to cherry pick

Interesting.

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Interesting.

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"Commonwealth Court Judge Patricia McCullough, a Republican, had issued the order and set a hearing for Friday, but canceled it amid the appeal. It wasn't immediately clear if she intended to hold up the certification of state and local contests on the ballot or interrupt the scheduled Dec. 14 meeting of the state's 20 electors."

Going to the Supreme Court in time. Sorry

Life-long Republican and part of the Trump Homeland Security team ....Chris Krebs...

Ousted Trump cybersecurity director debunks 2020 election rumors

duh

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Going to the Supreme Court in time. Sorry

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No chance.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/27/us/politics/trump-pennsylvania-appeals-court.html

• Nov. 27, 2020
In a blistering decision, a Philadelphia appeals court ruled on Friday that the Trump campaign could not stop or attempt to reverse the certification of the voting results in Pennsylvania, reprimanding the president's team by noting that "calling an election unfair does not make it so."

The 21-page ruling by the Third Circuit Court of Appeals was a complete repudiation of Mr. Trump's legal effort to halt Pennsylvania's certification process and was written by a judge that he himself appointed to the bench. "Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy," Judge Stephanos Bibas wrote on behalf of the appeals court in a unanimous decision. "Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."