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you can read the dissenting opinion if you want packgrad. It's public information. And its pretty clear that the two dissenters did NOT dissent because they agreed with the campaigns arguments.

http://www.pacourts.us/assets/opinions/Supreme/out/J-116-2020do%20-%20104608159120049063.pdf?cb=1

notably the last paragraph:

"Finally, short of demonstrated fraud, the notion that presumptively valid ballots cast by the Pennsylvania electorate would be disregarded based on isolated procedural irregularities that have been redressed -- thus disenfranchising potentially thousands of voters -- is misguided. Accordingly, to the degree that there is a concern with protecting or legitimizing the will of the Philadelphians who cast their votes while candidate representatives were unnecessarily restrained at the Convention Center, I fail to see that there is any real issue"

But im sure youd rather just take the word of "President-Elect NotKennyRogers" instead.

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There's a whole of corruption in our government and with powerful wealthy people. Donald Trump is the first person to ever make it to the presidency or even close that tried to blow the whole thing up. He has pissed off every powerful person in this country who holds the keys. The goal has been to get rid of him by any means necessary. The fact they couldn't do it with Russia or impeachment was infuriating. Schemes have been hatched nonstop for 4 years. And while it's largely democrats it's not just democrats that are part of these schemes. So to think of it in terms of just republican and democrat is missing the point. It would be naive to dismiss that election rigging could happen. In fact you'd be surprised if they COULDN'T do it given all the levers of power they have.

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I don't know how you possibly think Trump has done anything to curb corruption unless you've just refused to read any negative story about his administration. He's possibly the world's best grifter. And no, I'm not saying there wasn't grifting and corruption in past administrations, but thinking Trump tried to clean things up is laughable

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I'm not going to doubt what you say about Trump corruption; however, let's take one example and dig into it. I am confident, normal and rational, people will agree with you.

So, please provide the example and lets go for it...

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I mean off the top of my head there are the millions in government spending for all his trips to his own properties where he's charging the secret service for rooms and food. Then you have foreign officials, particularly the Saudi's, choosing to stay and spend lavishly at his resorts. His properties have made a ton of money off his presidency.
He also appointed almost 300 ex-lobbyists to his administration, I think 10 were to his cabinet. He's had at least 3 of those cabinet members resign with ethics scandals.
We can go back and forth over how much corruption there was in his administration, or how it compared to other presidents. But you can't argue he was some virtuous politician trying to clean things up. There is no evidence to support he has "drained the swamp"

Scott Pruitt - https://www.axios.com/go-deeper-the-most-bizarre-scott-pruitt-scandals-5e7778c7-3b61-4188-92e1-5d45dc32a1fd.html
Ryan Zinke - https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/15/zinke-interior-secretary-leave-trump-1066653
Tom Price - https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/09/29/554475788/price-resigns-from-trump-cabinet-amidst-private-jet-investigations

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Wait a sec....

You're saying it's corrupt that he stays at his own properties, and that he doesn't just give the rooms away to the secret service?

This is your big corruption bomb against the President?

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Way to purposefully misrepresent what I said.

ncsualum said "There's a whole of corruption in our government and with powerful wealthy people. Donald Trump is the first person to ever make it to the presidency or even close that tried to blow the whole thing up. He has pissed off every powerful person in this country who holds the keys."

He is not the first person on this board to insist that Trump is anti-corruption or has tried to drain the swamp. Instead Trump is quite happy to stew in the swamp with the army of lobbyists he has in his administration. Good job ignoring the 3 cabinet members resigning in scandal. As I said in my original reply, this is not particularly different from past administrations, but Trump has not taken any action to fix things. He's your typical swamp politician.

And yeah, taking literally hundreds of trips to his own properties, as President, bringing other government officials and secret service, then charging full rates for everything is a basic conflict of interest. The secret service has paid several million to Trump properties. If Obama had owned properties that saw a huge increase in visits from foreign officials, you'd be screaming about corruption and/or developing conspiracy theories.

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If Trump was a typical swamp politician you wouldn't hate his guts so much and CNN wouldn't spend 98% of their airtime trying to destroy him.

He is not remotely like any national level political leader we've seen in decades - actually working around the swamp creatures in DC in order to make America a better place.

Seriously weak sauce for claims of a corrupt administration.

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Only legit thing I see here is that the tweet was disputed.

Thanks for posting that. I agree that tweet is a fraud.

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It's just your fascist tech companies. I'm sure you're a fan. Notice they only do it with conservatives.

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Serious question since I'm not on Twitter.

Do they do it with politicians other than Trump, or those politicians and in the public parroting Trump talking points?

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They only do it with conservatives.

Just popping in to say Team Trump/Guiliani are now 1-25 in court.

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Hmmm. Sounds like the death threats are working great. Another one ready for the Supreme Court.

Funny test of Twitter censorship.