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Wolfpackrich1 said:

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Thanks for the personal attack.
So did this evidence come from One America or News Max?

Fake News.

Please explain why the Trump campaign keeps losing all the law suits on the election.

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They aren't losing all of them. More lies and fake news from you. You are fake news and noise. The ultimate hypocrite.

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So....they're losing almost all of them? Like "all but one or two"? I googled for a couple of seconds and couldn't find anything of significance that they've won, but quite a few they've lost.

Bottom line is, the election wasn't stolen, Trump just lost. Fair and square.

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packgrad said:

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Wolfpackrich1 said:

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Thanks for the personal attack.
So did this evidence come from One America or News Max?

Fake News.

Please explain why the Trump campaign keeps losing all the law suits on the election.

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They aren't losing all of them. More lies and fake news from you. You are fake news and noise. The ultimate hypocrite.

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So....they're losing almost all of them? Like "all but one or two"? I googled for a couple of seconds and couldn't find anything of significance that they've won, but quite a few they've lost.

Bottom line is, the election wasn't stolen, Trump just lost. Fair and square.

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Ok. That's not what fake news and noise guy said.

Checkmate, checkmate, checkmate.

Wolfpackrich1 said:

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Checkmate, checkmate, checkmate.

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Aren't you the guy that posted about Pubs or Trump during the FSU game this weekend? Lol. We see who your real team is. Checkmate.

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ncsualum05 said:

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There's a whole of corruption in our government and with powerful wealthy people. Donald Trump is the first person to ever make it to the presidency or even close that tried to blow the whole thing up. He has pissed off every powerful person in this country who holds the keys. The goal has been to get rid of him by any means necessary. The fact they couldn't do it with Russia or impeachment was infuriating. Schemes have been hatched nonstop for 4 years. And while it's largely democrats it's not just democrats that are part of these schemes. So to think of it in terms of just republican and democrat is missing the point. It would be naive to dismiss that election rigging could happen. In fact you'd be surprised if they COULDN'T do it given all the levers of power they have.

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I don't know how you possibly think Trump has done anything to curb corruption unless you've just refused to read any negative story about his administration. He's possibly the world's best grifter. And no, I'm not saying there wasn't grifting and corruption in past administrations, but thinking Trump tried to clean things up is laughable

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I'm not going to doubt what you say about Trump corruption; however, let's take one example and dig into it. I am confident, normal and rational, people will agree with you.

So, please provide the example and lets go for it...

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I mean off the top of my head there are the millions in government spending for all his trips to his own properties where he's charging the secret service for rooms and food. Then you have foreign officials, particularly the Saudi's, choosing to stay and spend lavishly at his resorts. His properties have made a ton of money off his presidency.
He also appointed almost 300 ex-lobbyists to his administration, I think 10 were to his cabinet. He's had at least 3 of those cabinet members resign with ethics scandals.
We can go back and forth over how much corruption there was in his administration, or how it compared to other presidents. But you can't argue he was some virtuous politician trying to clean things up. There is no evidence to support he has "drained the swamp"

Scott Pruitt - https://www.axios.com/go-deeper-the-most-bizarre-scott-pruitt-scandals-5e7778c7-3b61-4188-92e1-5d45dc32a1fd.html
Ryan Zinke - https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/15/zinke-interior-secretary-leave-trump-1066653
Tom Price - https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/09/29/554475788/price-resigns-from-trump-cabinet-amidst-private-jet-investigations

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Wait a sec....

You're saying it's corrupt that he stays at his own properties, and that he doesn't just give the rooms away to the secret service?

This is your big corruption bomb against the President?

Pacfanweb said:

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At this point the evidence for a flat Earth is more compelling than any of this alleged evidence that the election was stolen

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This election was SO OBVIOUSLY stolen. Anyone who just watched the vote results come in can see that -- Trump leading by huge margins in all the battleground states with about 80%+ of the vote in, then those battleground states mysteriously stop counting the votes around 3-4am in the morning, and then suddenly "discover" hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots that magically are 100% for Biden (eg, the ~130,000 ballots in Michigan that were 100% for Biden).

Then you have all of the additional evidence of MASSIVE election/vote fraud that has been exposed -- the vote flipping software used to rig elections, vote counts caught being "flipped" in real time on television, affidavits of tens of thousands of ballots suspiciously showing up at 3-4am in the morning, Democrat-run areas preventing GOP poll watchers from observing the counting of these phony ballots, and much more. They were cheating in virtually every way that is humanly possible to cheat.

And, by the way, thanks for admitting flat earth is true. Because if flat earth is even more true than the fact that this election was stolen, then flat earth is one of the most obviously true things in world history.

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GuerrillaPack said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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At this point the evidence for a flat Earth is more compelling than any of this alleged evidence that the election was stolen

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This election was SO OBVIOUSLY stolen. Anyone who just watched the vote results come in can see that -- Trump leading by huge margins in all the battleground states with about 80%+ of the vote in, then those battleground states mysteriously stop counting the votes around 3-4am in the morning, and then suddenly "discover" hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots that magically are 100% for Biden (eg, the ~130,000 ballots in Michigan that were 100% for Biden).

Then you have all of the additional evidence of MASSIVE election/vote fraud that has been exposed -- the vote flipping software used to rig elections, vote counts caught being "flipped" in real time on television, affidavits of tens of thousands of ballots suspiciously showing up at 3-4am in the morning, Democrat-run areas preventing GOP poll watchers from observing the counting of these phony ballots, and much more. They were cheating in virtually every way that is humanly possible to cheat.

And, by the way, thanks for admitting flat earth is true. Because if flat earth is even more true than the fact that this election was stolen, then flat earth is one of the most obviously true things in world history.

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Glad to see you're back GP...

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ditto....glad to see you're back GP......spread the truth brother!

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Glad to see you're back GP...

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Thanks.

We've had mass amounts of vote/election fraud in past elections, but this election is so extremely blatant. Even if you support the Democrats, you must oppose election fraud like this on principle alone. If we have the elite or "powers that be" blatantly rigging elections, then we don't have a democratic republic any more. We just have an entrenched Establishment that will stay in power no matter what. What is happening is that we are going under communist tyranny. This (rigged elections, etc) is what they did in the Soviet Union, and do in communist countries like Venezuela.

Graham "suggests" tossing legal ballots. The chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee talks to Georgia's Republican Sec. of State.

Georgia's secretary of state says Lindsey Graham suggested throwing out certain ballots

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Georgia's secretary of state says Lindsey Graham suggested throwing out certain ballots

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Graham has come out and said: this is fake news!

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ciscopack said:

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Georgia's secretary of state says Lindsey Graham suggested throwing out certain ballots

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Graham has come out and said: this is fake news!

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Graham has never talked out of both sides of his mouth so we should take his word for it.

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Georgia's secretary of state says Lindsey Graham suggested throwing out certain ballots

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He has also said that Joe Biden is as good a man as god has ever created.

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ncsualum05 said:

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There's a whole of corruption in our government and with powerful wealthy people. Donald Trump is the first person to ever make it to the presidency or even close that tried to blow the whole thing up. He has pissed off every powerful person in this country who holds the keys. The goal has been to get rid of him by any means necessary. The fact they couldn't do it with Russia or impeachment was infuriating. Schemes have been hatched nonstop for 4 years. And while it's largely democrats it's not just democrats that are part of these schemes. So to think of it in terms of just republican and democrat is missing the point. It would be naive to dismiss that election rigging could happen. In fact you'd be surprised if they COULDN'T do it given all the levers of power they have.

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I don't know how you possibly think Trump has done anything to curb corruption unless you've just refused to read any negative story about his administration. He's possibly the world's best grifter. And no, I'm not saying there wasn't grifting and corruption in past administrations, but thinking Trump tried to clean things up is laughable

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I'm not going to doubt what you say about Trump corruption; however, let's take one example and dig into it. I am confident, normal and rational, people will agree with you.

So, please provide the example and lets go for it...

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I mean off the top of my head there are the millions in government spending for all his trips to his own properties where he's charging the secret service for rooms and food. Then you have foreign officials, particularly the Saudi's, choosing to stay and spend lavishly at his resorts. His properties have made a ton of money off his presidency.
He also appointed almost 300 ex-lobbyists to his administration, I think 10 were to his cabinet. He's had at least 3 of those cabinet members resign with ethics scandals.
We can go back and forth over how much corruption there was in his administration, or how it compared to other presidents. But you can't argue he was some virtuous politician trying to clean things up. There is no evidence to support he has "drained the swamp"

Scott Pruitt - https://www.axios.com/go-deeper-the-most-bizarre-scott-pruitt-scandals-5e7778c7-3b61-4188-92e1-5d45dc32a1fd.html
Ryan Zinke - https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/15/zinke-interior-secretary-leave-trump-1066653
Tom Price - https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/09/29/554475788/price-resigns-from-trump-cabinet-amidst-private-jet-investigations

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Wait a sec....

You're saying it's corrupt that he stays at his own properties, and that he doesn't just give the rooms away to the secret service?

This is your big corruption bomb against the President?

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Way to purposefully misrepresent what I said.

ncsualum said "There's a whole of corruption in our government and with powerful wealthy people. Donald Trump is the first person to ever make it to the presidency or even close that tried to blow the whole thing up. He has pissed off every powerful person in this country who holds the keys."

He is not the first person on this board to insist that Trump is anti-corruption or has tried to drain the swamp. Instead Trump is quite happy to stew in the swamp with the army of lobbyists he has in his administration. Good job ignoring the 3 cabinet members resigning in scandal. As I said in my original reply, this is not particularly different from past administrations, but Trump has not taken any action to fix things. He's your typical swamp politician.

And yeah, taking literally hundreds of trips to his own properties, as President, bringing other government officials and secret service, then charging full rates for everything is a basic conflict of interest. The secret service has paid several million to Trump properties. If Obama had owned properties that saw a huge increase in visits from foreign officials, you'd be screaming about corruption and/or developing conspiracy theories.

So if he stayed somewhere else it'd be okay?

Apparently Trump gained 800 votes in georgia today. Only 13,000 more to go.

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But but voter fraud doesnt exist per democrat controlled mass media ....lololol

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Nice red herring.

You sure love the "Dems say that fraud doesn't exist.." narrative, except no one actually tries to make that case.

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By the way another weird stat that reaks of fraud.

2020 GA mail in rejection rate 0.24%. Historically 3%.
2020 PA rejection rate. 0.3%, again normally at least 1% but closer to 3% with first time mail in voters.

So you're going to tell me that when mail in ballots historically contain a 1-3% rejection rate that we are going to have rates that much better when there are millions of first time mail in voters?

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Apparently Trump gained 800 votes in georgia today. Only 13,000 more to go.

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Just imagine if they found around 800 vote gains for Trump in all 159 GA counties!

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If they do, praise the Lord. Will they also find that many in the other 3 states he needs to win the election? Cause GA ain't gonna do him any good without WI, PA and MI

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ncsualum05 said:

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By the way another weird stat that reaks of fraud.

2020 GA mail in rejection rate 0.24%. Historically 3%.
2020 PA rejection rate. 0.3%, again normally at least 1% but closer to 3% with first time mail in voters.

So you're going to tell me that when mail in ballots historically contain a 1-3% rejection rate that we are going to have rates that much better when there are millions of first time mail in voters?

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Apparently servers have been seized in Germany which prove the "vote flipping" (by Dominion/Smartmatic software) in the election, flipping votes from Trump to Biden.

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But but voter fraud doesnt exist per democrat controlled mass media ....lololol

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Nice red herring.

You sure love the "Dems say that fraud doesn't exist.." narrative, except no one actually tries to make that case.

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You yourself told us there would be almost no voter fraud because that would be a felony - and just about nobody would risk a felony conviction to commit voter fraud.

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You're right on both accounts.

Nobody's saying fraud "doesn't exist" like Bas2020 claims.

And fraud is extraordinarily rare. Bas2020's story was about a couple of guys that tried AND FAILED.

160 million voters and a couple of guys make national news for trying and failing. What am I missing here? What's the problem?

It appears Trump campaign suffered another ryback today in court. In Pennsylvania supreme court they dismissed the case.
It appears This whole election fraud thing is going down the tubes.

This could be huge.

The Vice President of Engineering at Dominion, Eric Coomer, was reportedly recorded saying in an Antifa meeting in September 2020, "Don't worry about the election. Trump isn't going to win. I made ******* sure of that".

Here is a OAN report on this:



Story:
https://newsthud.com/dominion-engineer-told-antifa-hed-made-sure-trump-wouldnt-win-report-says/

Sounds like fake news to me.

ncsualum05 said:

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By the way another weird stat that reaks of fraud.

2020 GA mail in rejection rate 0.24%. Historically 3%.
2020 PA rejection rate. 0.3%, again normally at least 1% but closer to 3% with first time mail in voters.

So you're going to tell me that when mail in ballots historically contain a 1-3% rejection rate that we are going to have rates that much better when there are millions of first time mail in voters?

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It holds the same in Florida, a state that Trump won and was pretty much praised across the board here for how they handled their mail in ballots to decrease fraud. Historical rate of 1.3%, this year 0.3%. And a Florida elections official said its not because they were rejecting fewer ballots, its because more are being cured before the deadline this year than ever before. Im sure the same holds true in PA and GA.

Im just wondering why Florida or any other state that wasn't a close Biden win wasn't included in your statistics there? Would have made it seem like a more genuine concern...

More on how the private companies who "tabulate" the votes have poor security and software. The voting data is taken to a server in Germany.