IseWolf22 said:

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acslater1344 said:

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BBW12OG said:

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Exactly....... McConnell is playing Schumer..... he's wanting to co-run the Senate.... Let them do what they want. McConnell knows in two years he will be Majority Leader again and the House will flip. Facts. He's wanting to keep as many in toe as he can along with Manchin and a few other moderate dems so they don't go ape **** and blow the entire system up. McConnell outsmarted Reid and redefined the entire judiciary for decades to come. That's enough in my book to give him a pass on his comments today. Remember, the socialists play the short game the GOP owns the long game. 6-3 SCOTUS vs. 2 years of Sleepy and Horizontal..... I'll take the SCOTUS.

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I agree with you about the Congress flipping back red in either 2 or 4 years, but only if the GOP moves away from the Trump era which just cost you the House, Senate and Presidency in 4 years. Which by the way if pretty damn hard to do.

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Trump said to be discussing starting a new "Patriot Party"

If McConnell and others vote to convict, the split is likely. It makes sense to because Trump really has very little in common with establishment Republicans and a lot of center right voters.

A GOP without Trump could change messaging to appeal to moderate Democrats, immigrants, and minorities like leadership wanted to do after 2012.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-impeachment-biden-inauguration/card/90pPMzFPqr5fMzg1Bkbs

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A GOP without Trump appeals to nobody. This is a very sad day but the America First movement will not be over. It will continue and I imagine Trump is still going to be a player. I don't think a new party is the answer I think the movement needs to continue to take over the GOP and oust all the corrupt *******s that are still in it.

IseWolf22 said:

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acslater1344 said:

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BBW12OG said:

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Exactly....... McConnell is playing Schumer..... he's wanting to co-run the Senate.... Let them do what they want. McConnell knows in two years he will be Majority Leader again and the House will flip. Facts. He's wanting to keep as many in toe as he can along with Manchin and a few other moderate dems so they don't go ape **** and blow the entire system up. McConnell outsmarted Reid and redefined the entire judiciary for decades to come. That's enough in my book to give him a pass on his comments today. Remember, the socialists play the short game the GOP owns the long game. 6-3 SCOTUS vs. 2 years of Sleepy and Horizontal..... I'll take the SCOTUS.

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I agree with you about the Congress flipping back red in either 2 or 4 years, but only if the GOP moves away from the Trump era which just cost you the House, Senate and Presidency in 4 years. Which by the way if pretty damn hard to do.

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Trump said to be discussing starting a new "Patriot Party"

If McConnell and others vote to convict, the split is likely. It makes sense to because Trump really has very little in common with establishment Republicans and a lot of center right voters.

A GOP without Trump could change messaging to appeal to moderate Democrats, immigrants, and minorities like leadership wanted to do after 2012.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-impeachment-biden-inauguration/card/90pPMzFPqr5fMzg1Bkbs

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I am not in favor of a new party. I am in favor of a primary for all Establishment Republicans. You know, Dan Crenshaw made some negative comments about Trump and his push about election fraud in his final month. I was not happy about his comments as I think this whole thing needs to be investigated properly (something that hasn't been done yet).

I will say, Dan Crenshaw did lay out the true conservative movement this morning, on Fox News. What I find interesting is that the policies are exactly what Trump did, in fact, he said as much.

• Lower taxes
• Lower regulations
• against big business monopolies
• against tech monopolies
• against unfettered immigration policies
• China is a problem!!!
• and so on...

This, so-called Republican party (of which I am), agrees on the majority of issues with Trump. The big difference between Trump and Republican party is the unhealthy relationship the establishment has with big business, technology, defense companies, etc...

If the Republican party can rid itself of those relationships, it has a chance. Trump tried to do that! He failed because its too powerful...

Agreed pine. A new party will never get the support and infrastructure it needs to win even with Trump at the helm. Trump needs to continue to be the face of the GOP/ MAGA movement. I really hope Trump wises up on who to endorse and perhaps he can become a de facto leader to help the right candidates in primaries for 2022. If we can start ousting more establishment corrupt GOPers and replace them with America First style candidtates than the movement will gain a lot of steam going into 2024.

As for 2024 I do not know what will happen but I think it would be best if Trump ran again b/c there are no other presidential candidates out there right now that can beat the corrupt dem/ DC machine. Almost 75 million voters nationwide. I don't think anyone else has a prayer to get that many again.

Trump will not be "the face" of the GOP if it hopes to survive.

IseWolf22 said:

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ncsualum05 said:

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IseWolf22 said:

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acslater1344 said:

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BBW12OG said:

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Exactly....... McConnell is playing Schumer..... he's wanting to co-run the Senate.... Let them do what they want. McConnell knows in two years he will be Majority Leader again and the House will flip. Facts. He's wanting to keep as many in toe as he can along with Manchin and a few other moderate dems so they don't go ape **** and blow the entire system up. McConnell outsmarted Reid and redefined the entire judiciary for decades to come. That's enough in my book to give him a pass on his comments today. Remember, the socialists play the short game the GOP owns the long game. 6-3 SCOTUS vs. 2 years of Sleepy and Horizontal..... I'll take the SCOTUS.

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I agree with you about the Congress flipping back red in either 2 or 4 years, but only if the GOP moves away from the Trump era which just cost you the House, Senate and Presidency in 4 years. Which by the way if pretty damn hard to do.

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Trump said to be discussing starting a new "Patriot Party"

If McConnell and others vote to convict, the split is likely. It makes sense to because Trump really has very little in common with establishment Republicans and a lot of center right voters.

A GOP without Trump could change messaging to appeal to moderate Democrats, immigrants, and minorities like leadership wanted to do after 2012.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-impeachment-biden-inauguration/card/90pPMzFPqr5fMzg1Bkbs

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A GOP without Trump appeals to nobody. This is a very sad day but the America First movement will not be over. It will continue and I imagine Trump is still going to be a player. I don't think a new party is the answer I think the movement needs to continue to take over the GOP and oust all the corrupt *******s that are still in it.

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Trump is as corrupt as all the establishment people you hate. To this day, I have no idea why people trust a slimy NY businessman with a long history of shady dealings over any other politician.

But even if he stays in the GOP and you primary out all of his opponents, the result is the same, a fractured GOP. Trump's popularity has taken a massive drop in recent weeks. Many Republicans are furious as him for losing the Senate and then passing responsibility on manufactured claim of fraud.

I agree the MAGA movement isn't dead, but it's also much close to dividing the right permanently than uniting it. It's going to be an interesting 4 years

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We have 4 years of election proof that republican candidates won more with Trump on the ballot and couldn't do very well when he wasn't. Mid terms in 2018 and the special election in GA prove that. Trump didn't lose those senate seats in GA. The candidates sucked... hell Perdue won in Nov but got cheated out of the 50% threshold. We know fraud was the only way they could win in those swing states. Sorry but the mass mail in was all BS. And yet Trump still amassed 74 million plus votes and carried a lot of republicans including turncoat *****s across the finish line. Don't be fooled by fake media polls... the gas lighting continues. Trump has not lost popularity. This bell can't be un rung.

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MAGA will go the way of the Tea Party. It may still have some followers, but I think most rational people have completely dropped off that train after the last three to four weeks.

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This is what 80M voters get you...

The only people there are the Establishment and Lobbyist!!!

And the military. Pretty much like a dictator taking over.

we will hear: its COVID, it's the riots, its this or that...

the Dems had BLM/Antifa coming together this week in NYC. People dead! This is only a showing of how energized the Democrats really are. And they got 80M votes? Yea, right!!!

Why does he have an eye patch?

statefan91 said:

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Why does he have an eye patch?

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I don't know I just saw that and thought it was funny.

I can assume it's from being stabbed in the eye with Pelosi's dick.

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That's hilarious. I'll be fine if he retires to obscurity, but that's good stuff.

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statefan91 said:

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Why does he have an eye patch?

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I don't know I just saw that and thought it was funny.

I can assume it's from being stabbed in the eye with Pelosi's dick.

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If he's getting skull****ed by Pelosi he's definitely not in a position to mount a ROTJ style comeback.

IseWolf22 said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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This is what 80M voters get you...

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No one cares about the inauguration crowd. It means literally nothing.

Oh and the mall is closed to the public.

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Actually, they militarized DC because they knew Harris/Biden couldn't draw a crowd. Inauguration, stump speech crowds tells exactly why she didn't get 80M votes. It didn't happen and you know it...

The peaceful transition happened. Your media said it wouldn't. They were wrong again, just like Russia. Now, your dumb ass leaders says our biggest threat is domestic terrorism. What a joke!!

This will be the most divisive, so be it, presidency we will ever see!!!

C- grade at best!

Where were all the riots around the country? Did the military quell them? Was it more lies and rhetoric from the left and media?

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Where were all the riots around the country? Did the military quell them? Was it more lies and rhetoric from the left and media?

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The military lock-down was a disguise! They knew they didn't have any enthusiasm and wanted everyone to be deflected from the truth.

They didn't get 80M votes! It didn't happen! Nonetheless, the hacks are running the country!

Their

How many votes did Trump get? Where does it rank on overall votes? Number 5 or so?

When is trump getting charged with crimes? Want to make sure I keep up.

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pineknollshoresking said:

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IseWolf22 said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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This is what 80M voters get you...

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No one cares about the inauguration crowd. It means literally nothing.

Oh and the mall is closed to the public.

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Actually, they militarized DC because they knew Harris/Biden couldn't draw a crowd. Inauguration, stump speech crowds tells exactly why she didn't get 80M votes. It didn't happen and you know it...

The peaceful transition happened. Your media said it wouldn't. They were wrong again, just like Russia. Now, your dumb ass leaders says our biggest threat is domestic terrorism. What a joke!!

This will be the most divisive, so be it, presidency we will ever see!!!

C- grade at best!

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Goodness. You are unreal man. Trump supporters beat the windows out if the capital. Push there way inside looking for Nancy, Chuck, Mike and Mitch. Last two Republicans. Chanting hang the vice president and promise more if the same.

So they lock down the government and you come up with a conspiracy theory that democrats did it because they were scared if crowd size.

You are delusional.

80.2 million strong. The most ever!



Hard for Republicans to win a presidential election from a minority

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Why didn't they let us know about the intelligence? They didn't have any...

Who called for this military presence? Nancy and the mayor

Who did your chanting? Antifa dressed as Trump supporters. Look back several pages and you will see one of the leaders wearing the disguise.

You, Rich, will never know any truths. Your head is so far in the sand.


Also, watch to see if they do anything regarding the Impeachment trial. At this point, Nancy hasn't turned over the papers to the Senate. Why? If they go forward, the receipts will be laid out in front of everyone. They know it and are weighing what they should do...

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How many votes did Trump get?

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He got enough legal votes to win this past election. It doesn't make a difference now.

You all need to worry about your jobs!! Harris, according to reports I'm hearing, is calling for a national lockdown. This time, it will be a nail in the coffin for many jobs here. If you ain't black, another minority, or female, you want be getting a bail out.

Good luck!! You voted for it and I hope it bites you in the ASS!!! I don't have to worry about it as I gots mines!

pineknollshoresking said:

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Wolfpackrich1 said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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IseWolf22 said:

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pineknollshoresking said:

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This is what 80M voters get you...

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No one cares about the inauguration crowd. It means literally nothing.

Oh and the mall is closed to the public.

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Actually, they militarized DC because they knew Harris/Biden couldn't draw a crowd. Inauguration, stump speech crowds tells exactly why she didn't get 80M votes. It didn't happen and you know it...

The peaceful transition happened. Your media said it wouldn't. They were wrong again, just like Russia. Now, your dumb ass leaders says our biggest threat is domestic terrorism. What a joke!!

This will be the most divisive, so be it, presidency we will ever see!!!

C- grade at best!

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Goodness. You are unreal man. Trump supporters beat the windows out if the capital. Push there way inside looking for Nancy, Chuck, Mike and Mitch. Last two Republicans. Chanting hang the vice president and promise more if the same.

So they lock down the government and you come up with a conspiracy theory that democrats did it because they were scared if crowd size.

You are delusional.

80.2 million strong. The most ever!



Hard for Republicans to win a presidential election from a minority

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Why didn't they let us know about the intelligence? They didn't have any...

Who called for this military presence? Nancy and the mayor

Who did your chanting? Antifa dressed as Trump supporters. Look back several pages and you will see one of the leaders wearing the disguise.

You, Rich, will never know any truths. Your head is so far in the sand.


Also, watch to see if they do anything regarding the Impeachment trial. At this point, Nancy hasn't turned over the papers to the Senate. Why? If they go forward, the receipts will be laid out in front of everyone. They know it and are weighing what they should do...

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Is there a question here that you need me to answer?

pineknollshoresking said:

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Cthepack said:

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How many votes did Trump get?

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He got enough legal votes to win this past election. It doesn't make a difference now.

You all need to worry about your jobs!! Harris, according to reports I'm hearing, is calling for a national lockdown. This time, it will be a nail in the coffin for many jobs here. If you ain't black, another minority, or female, you want be getting a bail out.

Good luck!! You voted for it and I hope it bites you in the ASS!!! I don't have to worry about it as I gots mines!

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Wow that is a racist comment and just plain hateful

Wolfpackrich1 said:

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Trump got 7 million less. 2nd place. That is the first loser.
Criminal charges coming soon. Stay tuned mi amigo.

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I am talking all time ranking not just this election. I assume Obama and Clinton must have gotten more votes when they ran compared to how many trump got this time. For total votes where does trump rank. Obviously Biden got more this time