ciscopack said:
Line him up some foursomes in Florida for the next 13 days and pay him to play. Tell him how great he is.
Starwolf said:
There are reports that there were IEDs found with the rioters by the FBI. This is just some wacko **** now.
Starwolf said:
There are reports that there were IEDs found with the rioters by the FBI. This is just some wacko **** now.
statefan91 said:I think they're calling for the 25th because they just saw the President whip up a crowd of armed citizens to storm into the Capitol to disrupt a normal process of the Election process because he is claiming that the Election was stolen from him...ncsualum05 said:
At this point Trump should go scorched earth and do everything within his presidential power that he wants to do before Jan 20th. Lock down anything you need to contractually or related to EO's. Make it as difficult for Biden team as possible to undo all your **** immediately. Pardon whoever the hell you want and declassify what you can b/c we really do need to expose our corrupt institutions for what they are.
There's really no hope for peace and unity at this point. I think they are calling for 25th and impeachment b/c they're afraid of what a Trump with nothing to lose will do in the final days. That and they want to see if they can prevent him from ever running for office again.
What has this country come to man. I'm non-partisan and I don't have a side but this is just something else. It just gets crazier as more news is releasedacslater1344 said:Starwolf said:
There are reports that there were IEDs found with the rioters by the FBI. This is just some wacko **** now.
FBI is offering a $50k reward for any info on who planted explosives.
Tell him Tiger is good for 2 days, Dustin 2, JT 2, the golden Bear for 2, Brooks K. 2, Lexi Thompson 2 and Blair O'Neal 1.Civilized said:ciscopack said:
Line him up some foursomes in Florida for the next 13 days and pay him to play. Tell him how great he is.
Best suggestion I've seen or heard anywhere.
Forget the 25th and impeachment. Just do whatever it takes to get us through another couple of weeks.
Just for transparency I am not non partisan. I am on the left side of the fence. But I can not agree more to your statement / Question of "What has this country come to man".Starwolf said:What has this country come to man. I'm non-partisan and I don't have a side but this is just something else. It just gets crazier as more news is releasedacslater1344 said:Starwolf said:
There are reports that there were IEDs found with the rioters by the FBI. This is just some wacko **** now.
FBI is offering a $50k reward for any info on who planted explosives.
Along with Pelosi, Schumer, AOC and the squad. The democrats stoke the flames and then run and hide when the fires start. Coming off like Trump incited the violence is dead wrong. Where were all the liberals when the cities across America were being destroyed by BLM and Antifa? Let me guess? Those were "peaceful protesters. Again, what happened was wrong and the people should be hell accountable. Trump is no more responsible for the Capital incident than the talking heads run by the DNC are for what happened across America this summer. Like I said, let's see if Horizontal Harris will bail out these people like she did the ones that cost lives, people their businesses and many their entire life's work. Double standard for conservatives and it is on display front and center here on this thread just like in the media every single day. You want to unite America? Take CNN, MSNBC off the air. Demolish Facebook and Twitter.acslater1344 said:
What this country needs is for the entire Trump family to exit the political arena forever.
The entire episode the other day was totally disgusting... but again, same **** was going on this summer and I can guarantee this tweeter didn't have any problem with it then.statefan91 said:
Agreed. People need to stop blaming Trump for our issues. How long before people wake up and realize we have major issues regardless. They were here before Trump... otherwise there never would've been a Trump presidency. Most all politicians with the exception of a small few are horrible people and horrible for this country. They deserve nothing from us the people but disdain. The media deserves even worse... they have taken front and center to make sure this country is a ****hole. The corruption runs so deep within the media, our govt institutions, our politicians that the whole system is terminally sick.BBW12OG said:Along with Pelosi, Schumer, AOC and the squad. The democrats stoke the flames and then run and hide when the fires start. Coming off like Trump incited the violence is dead wrong. Where were all the liberals when the cities across America were being destroyed by BLM and Antifa? Let me guess? Those were "peaceful protesters. Again, what happened was wrong and the people should be hell accountable. Trump is no more responsible for the Capital incident than the talking heads run by the DNC are for what happened across America this summer. Like I said, let's see if Horizontal Harris will bail out these people like she did the ones that cost lives, people their businesses and many their entire life's work. Double standard for conservatives and it is on display front and center here on this thread just like in the media every single day. You want to unite America? Take CNN, MSNBC off the air. Demolish Facebook and Twitter.acslater1344 said:
What this country needs is for the entire Trump family to exit the political arena forever.
ncsualum05 said:BBW12OG said:Along with Pelosi, Schumer, AOC and the squad. The democrats stoke the flames and then run and hide when the fires start. Coming off like Trump incited the violence is dead wrong. Where were all the liberals when the cities across America were being destroyed by BLM and Antifa? Let me guess? Those were "peaceful protesters. Again, what happened was wrong and the people should be hell accountable. Trump is no more responsible for the Capital incident than the talking heads run by the DNC are for what happened across America this summer. Like I said, let's see if Horizontal Harris will bail out these people like she did the ones that cost lives, people their businesses and many their entire life's work. Double standard for conservatives and it is on display front and center here on this thread just like in the media every single day. You want to unite America? Take CNN, MSNBC off the air. Demolish Facebook and Twitter.acslater1344 said:
What this country needs is for the entire Trump family to exit the political arena forever.
Look at the media stories since Wednesday. Nothing but furthering the anger and division. Not one single thing being reported or done is going to heal jack*****
Here's my take.tuffy1006 said:
one thing is for certain, the diehard righties cant say anything anymore. This was their "hold my beer" moment. Antifa members had to be impressed.
The name doesn't even matter. George Bush was the most vilified president in the history of this country. He just sat there and took it. Trump didn't. That was the only real difference when it comes down to it.ncsualum05 said:Agreed. People need to stop blaming Trump for our issues. How long before people wake up and realize we have major issues regardless. They were here before Trump... otherwise there never would've been a Trump presidency. Most all politicians with the exception of a small few are horrible people and horrible for this country. They deserve nothing from us the people but disdain. The media deserves even worse... they have taken front and center to make sure this country is a ****hole. The corruption runs so deep within the media, our govt institutions, our politicians that the whole system is terminally sick.BBW12OG said:Along with Pelosi, Schumer, AOC and the squad. The democrats stoke the flames and then run and hide when the fires start. Coming off like Trump incited the violence is dead wrong. Where were all the liberals when the cities across America were being destroyed by BLM and Antifa? Let me guess? Those were "peaceful protesters. Again, what happened was wrong and the people should be hell accountable. Trump is no more responsible for the Capital incident than the talking heads run by the DNC are for what happened across America this summer. Like I said, let's see if Horizontal Harris will bail out these people like she did the ones that cost lives, people their businesses and many their entire life's work. Double standard for conservatives and it is on display front and center here on this thread just like in the media every single day. You want to unite America? Take CNN, MSNBC off the air. Demolish Facebook and Twitter.acslater1344 said:
What this country needs is for the entire Trump family to exit the political arena forever.
The rioting in the capitol should never have happened but neither should the 100+ days of violence from May all the way up until the election. Leaders on all sides should've stood up and done something about it then and there. When you encourage it, don't punish people for it, make excuses for it, deny it, and let it go on and on well... what do you think other groups are going to do? Do you think the criminals that committed these horrible things on Wed would've been so emboldened had they not seen all of the violence this past year with virtually no consequences? We can't have a 2-tier justice system. We have to follow and enforce our laws. That's a big part of what is causing this breakdown. Then you throw the COVID restrictions which many of our leaders did not follow as they demanded we did. Throw in a controversial election. How much bigger does this wild fire have to get?
Look at the media stories since Wednesday. Nothing but furthering the anger and division. Not one single thing being reported or done is going to heal jack*****
A lot of you want Trump to disappear. I ask you to quit looking at him as a scope goat and look the big picture here. For one Trump probably isn't going away. But this country is not going to all of a sudden heal and get better b/c Trump was the problem for all things. Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell, McCarthy and others are your most powerful people in Washington going forward. Name one damn thing any of them have done or said that's going to help this situation.
I don't know. Maybe something similar to when American citizens stormed and took over a police building, and occupied blocks of a US city for multiple weeks.acslater1344 said:ncsualum05 said:BBW12OG said:Along with Pelosi, Schumer, AOC and the squad. The democrats stoke the flames and then run and hide when the fires start. Coming off like Trump incited the violence is dead wrong. Where were all the liberals when the cities across America were being destroyed by BLM and Antifa? Let me guess? Those were "peaceful protesters. Again, what happened was wrong and the people should be hell accountable. Trump is no more responsible for the Capital incident than the talking heads run by the DNC are for what happened across America this summer. Like I said, let's see if Horizontal Harris will bail out these people like she did the ones that cost lives, people their businesses and many their entire life's work. Double standard for conservatives and it is on display front and center here on this thread just like in the media every single day. You want to unite America? Take CNN, MSNBC off the air. Demolish Facebook and Twitter.acslater1344 said:
What this country needs is for the entire Trump family to exit the political arena forever.
Look at the media stories since Wednesday. Nothing but furthering the anger and division. Not one single thing being reported or done is going to heal jack*****
I'm genuinely curious... what media stories should be run 2 days after American citizens violently stormed and occupied the U.S. Capitol building for the first time in American history?
BBW12OG said:Along with Pelosi, Schumer, AOC and the squad. The democrats stoke the flames and then run and hide when the fires start. Coming off like Trump incited the violence is dead wrong. Where were all the liberals when the cities across America were being destroyed by BLM and Antifa? Let me guess? Those were "peaceful protesters. Again, what happened was wrong and the people should be hell accountable. Trump is no more responsible for the Capital incident than the talking heads run by the DNC are for what happened across America this summer. Like I said, let's see if Horizontal Harris will bail out these people like she did the ones that cost lives, people their businesses and many their entire life's work. Double standard for conservatives and it is on display front and center here on this thread just like in the media every single day. You want to unite America? Take CNN, MSNBC off the air. Demolish Facebook and Twitter.acslater1344 said:
What this country needs is for the entire Trump family to exit the political arena forever.
Ones without spin for starters. Maybe ones that don't automatically blame the president or assume that ALL OR MOST of his supporters are responsible. Maybe all the talk of prosecution or impeachment or whatever else doesn't really do anything to calm people down. Let's not forget that there was open talk here recently about black listing people who worked in the Trump administration. ABC had a headline that I think was taken down but spoke of a "cleansing the movement".acslater1344 said:ncsualum05 said:BBW12OG said:Along with Pelosi, Schumer, AOC and the squad. The democrats stoke the flames and then run and hide when the fires start. Coming off like Trump incited the violence is dead wrong. Where were all the liberals when the cities across America were being destroyed by BLM and Antifa? Let me guess? Those were "peaceful protesters. Again, what happened was wrong and the people should be hell accountable. Trump is no more responsible for the Capital incident than the talking heads run by the DNC are for what happened across America this summer. Like I said, let's see if Horizontal Harris will bail out these people like she did the ones that cost lives, people their businesses and many their entire life's work. Double standard for conservatives and it is on display front and center here on this thread just like in the media every single day. You want to unite America? Take CNN, MSNBC off the air. Demolish Facebook and Twitter.acslater1344 said:
What this country needs is for the entire Trump family to exit the political arena forever.
Look at the media stories since Wednesday. Nothing but furthering the anger and division. Not one single thing being reported or done is going to heal jack*****
I'm genuinely curious... what media stories should be run 2 days after American citizens violently stormed and occupied the U.S. Capitol building for the first time in American history?
Yep. Absolutely. And the insane rhetoric from left wing politicians has been spewed for decades with zero consequence b/c of their media arm covering and defending them. The GOP has traditionally has been a group of useful idiots who are wealthy and corrupt and glad to play along with the other side to keep a piece of the pie. Bush absolutely took the abuse and ran and hid. We're now too far down the rabbit hole with the media for those days to come back though. Trump was definitely the first republican in my lifetime to ever really fight against it. Now I've seen more push back from others. Expect this to continue.TheStorm said:The name doesn't even matter. George Bush was the most vilified president in the history of this country. He just sat there and took it. Trump didn't. That was the only real difference when it comes down to it.ncsualum05 said:Agreed. People need to stop blaming Trump for our issues. How long before people wake up and realize we have major issues regardless. They were here before Trump... otherwise there never would've been a Trump presidency. Most all politicians with the exception of a small few are horrible people and horrible for this country. They deserve nothing from us the people but disdain. The media deserves even worse... they have taken front and center to make sure this country is a ****hole. The corruption runs so deep within the media, our govt institutions, our politicians that the whole system is terminally sick.BBW12OG said:Along with Pelosi, Schumer, AOC and the squad. The democrats stoke the flames and then run and hide when the fires start. Coming off like Trump incited the violence is dead wrong. Where were all the liberals when the cities across America were being destroyed by BLM and Antifa? Let me guess? Those were "peaceful protesters. Again, what happened was wrong and the people should be hell accountable. Trump is no more responsible for the Capital incident than the talking heads run by the DNC are for what happened across America this summer. Like I said, let's see if Horizontal Harris will bail out these people like she did the ones that cost lives, people their businesses and many their entire life's work. Double standard for conservatives and it is on display front and center here on this thread just like in the media every single day. You want to unite America? Take CNN, MSNBC off the air. Demolish Facebook and Twitter.acslater1344 said:
What this country needs is for the entire Trump family to exit the political arena forever.
The rioting in the capitol should never have happened but neither should the 100+ days of violence from May all the way up until the election. Leaders on all sides should've stood up and done something about it then and there. When you encourage it, don't punish people for it, make excuses for it, deny it, and let it go on and on well... what do you think other groups are going to do? Do you think the criminals that committed these horrible things on Wed would've been so emboldened had they not seen all of the violence this past year with virtually no consequences? We can't have a 2-tier justice system. We have to follow and enforce our laws. That's a big part of what is causing this breakdown. Then you throw the COVID restrictions which many of our leaders did not follow as they demanded we did. Throw in a controversial election. How much bigger does this wild fire have to get?
Look at the media stories since Wednesday. Nothing but furthering the anger and division. Not one single thing being reported or done is going to heal jack*****
A lot of you want Trump to disappear. I ask you to quit looking at him as a scope goat and look the big picture here. For one Trump probably isn't going away. But this country is not going to all of a sudden heal and get better b/c Trump was the problem for all things. Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell, McCarthy and others are your most powerful people in Washington going forward. Name one damn thing any of them have done or said that's going to help this situation.
If the Republicans ever win another presidential election again sometime in the future, he'll get the same treatment that Trump got. That's just the way it works now.
Loving Kindness.
He was encouraging a peaceful protest. That's what the entire thing was meant to be. Trump has been holding rallies with 10s of thousands for years now with little to no incident. I guess you could say it was a mistake. But whether or not he partook I can imagine there was going to an assembly in DC that day anyway. There were tons of protests and marches in DC in January of 2017 if you'll recall.statefan91 said:
He literally spoke at the rally and told them he was going to go with them to the Capitol. Why should he not be blamed?
Fake news. Unless you count all of the 100 days of protests where people showed up armed as armed invasions of city streets to destroy businesses, undermine police authority, and murder current and retired police officers. But those don't count, right? They were "peaceful".statefan91 said:
Sorry - I'm just highlighting that this wasn't a protest of anything. This was an armed invasion of the Capitol to interrupt Election processes because the aggrieved President thinks the Election was stolen and whipped up crowds of disaffected people to carry out his grievances. In that process, a Capitol police officer was violently killed.
Would you like for that story to not be shared? If you have interest I'm sure you will find plenty of responses by me in threads from the summer calling out that I hope those that harmed officers would be prosecuted.
yeah....thousands of people outside the Capital didn't have a right to be there to protest because you and the rest of the socialist don't agree with their opinions. Sorry.... your act may go over well on TOS where you have protection from newswolf and you don't have to worry about getting banned but over here there is freedom to disagree with the liberal point of view without worrying about being banned. There were absolutely idiots that stormed the Capital and they deserve to get punished . Guess what? One of the idiots arrested was non other than a member of BLM...I guess he get's a pass though right? He's a "protester" not a right wing rioter. You and the ones that hold the same mindset are the reason this country will never be united. Not a personal attack...just stating the facts as they have been presented.statefan91 said:
Sorry - I'm just highlighting that this wasn't a protest of anything. This was an armed invasion of the Capitol to interrupt Election processes because the aggrieved President thinks the Election was stolen and whipped up crowds of disaffected people to carry out his grievances. In that process, a Capitol police officer was violently killed.
Would you like for that story to not be shared? If you have interest I'm sure you will find plenty of responses by me in threads from the summer calling out that I hope those that harmed officers would be prosecuted.
Then why didn't he call in the National Guard when he saw that his peaceful protestors had bad apples and they were attacking the Capitol?ncsualum05 said:He was encouraging a peaceful protest. That's what the entire thing was meant to be. Trump has been holding rallies with 10s of thousands for years now with little to no incident. I guess you could say it was a mistake. But whether or not he partook I can imagine there was going to an assembly in DC that day anyway. There were tons of protests and marches in DC in January of 2017 if you'll recall.statefan91 said:
He literally spoke at the rally and told them he was going to go with them to the Capitol. Why should he not be blamed?
And surely you can understand how a protest can be mostly peaceful but interrupted by some bad actors right?
They weren't peaceful protestors, they were breaking into the halls of Congress? Police are good as long as they're not using their badge to harass / intimidate / brutalize people. You are welcome to live in a black and white world where you can't support something while also hoping for reform / improvement.BBW12OG said:
Last time he did he was crucified for it. Remember when the BLM "protesters" were burning down the Cathedral? Remember when they were setting cars on fire, destroying property? Remember how the MSM accused him of using "military force" against peaceful protesters? I do. So which is it? Police are good or **** the police? Or does it depend on your narrative at the time. Please respond. Would love to hear your answer.
I already acknowledged in a previous post that that was a fair criticism. He should've called them in. Hell he should've been more forceful this summer although I'm sure people were telling him not to b/c the media and left were going to crucify him. But IMO these demonstrations turned riots should've been put down... hard earlier this year. Unrest needs to be dealt with quickly and harshly in my opinion. But you better suck it up b/c to put something like that down properly people are going to die and you shouldn't distinguish what color or creed they are and cry foul in those instances.statefan91 said:Then why didn't he call in the National Guard when he saw that his peaceful protestors had bad apples and they were attacking the Capitol?ncsualum05 said:He was encouraging a peaceful protest. That's what the entire thing was meant to be. Trump has been holding rallies with 10s of thousands for years now with little to no incident. I guess you could say it was a mistake. But whether or not he partook I can imagine there was going to an assembly in DC that day anyway. There were tons of protests and marches in DC in January of 2017 if you'll recall.statefan91 said:
He literally spoke at the rally and told them he was going to go with them to the Capitol. Why should he not be blamed?
And surely you can understand how a protest can be mostly peaceful but interrupted by some bad actors right?
I see you have mastered the "5 D's of being a Democrat." Dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge. So....what happened this summer. You avoided my question. I think 99% of the people there in Washington, D.C. were there hoping that an election system that is obviously broken would be reformed and improved. I didn't see cities across America burning, stores being looted, police cars being burned, fire trucks being burned and I haven't seen ANY GOP members setting up funds to bail out the criminals, and yes the Republicans are calling them criminals because that is what they are. Have you called the people from this summer criminals? Why don't you address that. Thank you for pointing out and self owning with your "police are good as long as they are doing something I support" comment. Typical....statefan91 said:They weren't peaceful protestors, they were breaking into the halls of Congress? Police are good as long as they're not using their badge to harass / intimidate / brutalize people. You are welcome to live in a black and white world where you can't support something while also hoping for reform / improvement.BBW12OG said:
Last time he did he was crucified for it. Remember when the BLM "protesters" were burning down the Cathedral? Remember when they were setting cars on fire, destroying property? Remember how the MSM accused him of using "military force" against peaceful protesters? I do. So which is it? Police are good or **** the police? Or does it depend on your narrative at the time. Please respond. Would love to hear your answer.
You must not really be an NC State fan in that case because if you assumed every person who complained about NC State was against NC State, there wouldn't be any fans left...
