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CSPAN can't get the words correct...

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I just listened to the first 30 minutes. In the first 30 minutes, Trump did absolutely nothing wrong! Yes, Trump repeated the data, as provided to him. Not one person, on this board, has ever done the data crunching that these folks have. So, you probably need to get over yourself.

I do plan on listening to the balance of the call. Based on the beginning 30 minutes and what I have read in transcripts, I'll bet the complaints are all out of context.

Rafensburger if weak as water. He says the Gulianni doctored the tapes and the Trump team needs to see the whole tape. The one attorney (Mitchell, I think), for Trump, told Rafensburger... I have seen the entire tape and had forensic people review what you are talking about and the facts don't line up with the SOS.

Basically, what we have are people wanting something done and other people wanting to move on. None of us, here, have any clue as to the facts...

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The facts are the certified vote totals which show Trump lost. Its why Trump asked him to find 11,780 more votes.

If Trump has evidence to present, he should do it. He hasn't and that's why Rafensburger's hands are tied.

Rafensburger would love to have Trump win, but he can't "find" votes that aren't there.

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That is such a misread of what's happening. Sounds like a typical CNN reporter.

The facts are:

• Georgia SOS certified the results with Biden electors
• Georgia legislature certified a different set of electors for Trump
• Trump lawyers have shown evidence and Trump regurgitated the evidence on the call
• Rafensberger has no love for Trump; so, your assessment that he wants Trump to win is misinformed

You guys can all say this and/or that and that's fine... a large percentage of people in this country feel as if we have significant issues with this election. That is going to be a problem moving forward.

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You say Georgia legislature named their own electors? It can't be for President. Georgia law prohibits thats, like specifically prohibits the general assembly from naming electors. The power to certify electors belongs to the SOS.

Trump lawyers have not show evidence. Evidence is something that you bring to court, not something you tweet about on the crappier.

A large percentage of people think something was wrong with this election. true, it's probably around 30%, but what do you expect from people used to getting participation trophies their whole lives. Just a really loud minority.

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Didn't th SOC vote and support
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Don't know if he voted for Trump. I know Trump campaigned for Kemp; however, I'm not sure about the SOS. You can research Rafinsburger's distaste for Trump all over the place.

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I would have distaste for Trump if I was an elected official an responsible for an election and he tried to get me to overturn a fair and legal election.

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If you are so sure it was fair and legal then why all the brew-ha-ha over investigating? I mean it's not like Stacey Abrams hasn't claimed for four years that the election was stolen from her? It's not like HER SISTER just allowed voter roles to be allowed with people who haven't lived in Georgia for years..... nothing to see here right lefties? Absolute power and total control is all the socialists want. The very ones screaming for it will be the ones that are affected negatively the most. Never underestimate the benefit of common sense. For many today it is a difficult concept to grasp. Too many participation trophies and "everybody is a winner" mantras. Oh.... "Amen and "A-women...."

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You talk about absolute power and total control like it is the Democrats and liberals doing that. I suggest you look no further than President Trump for those things. He Called Georgia's SOS and asked him to overturn the elections on nothing more than "Trump Media". Which when translated means lie's and disinformation.

Dude those who live in glass houses should not throw rocks.

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Not true!! You progressives are all about noise...

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What is not True? That he called and asked for SOS to find 11780 votes? That is a funny number to ask for if all you want is to count just legal votes. Sounds to me that he just wants to change an election with fraud. That the SOS said that Trump's information was wrong? Told Trump that he should not get his information from Social Media? Then Trump said he gets his information from Trump media? Where was I wrong?

You are making the noise to distract.

Also you said after the election was called for Biden by the media that you would recognize that Biden was the winner when the Election was certified by the Electoral college. That date came and went and you never once acknowledge that like you said you would. Those posts are back in November on this very topic. If you care to go look for them.

So I ask you. Who is making noise?

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You are!

First of all: I haven't listened past the first 30 minutes, so, find in the transcript, with context, where the President asked his specifically to find 11,780 votes. What I have heard is him saying that all he needs to 11,780 votes to change the election and we have enough evidence to support a minimum of that number and far more.

The SOS is denying the data. Data he hasn't even looked at. This guy is part of the Descent Decree with Abrams. What exactly is a decent decree?

A consent decree is an agreement or settlement that resolves a dispute between two parties without admission of guilt (in a criminal case) or liability (in a civil case), and most often refers to such a type of settlement in the United States.

What exactly are they settling?

Also you said after the election was called for Biden by the media that you would recognize that Biden was the winner when the Election was certified by the Electoral college. That date came and went and you never once acknowledge that like you said you would.

get your dates correct. That happens on Wednesday the 6th, correct?

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That date was dec 14th that is when the electoral college certified the election. You did not say when congresses certified the election. Shall I go get the post? Because it is here.

You just keep moving the goal posts.

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Do what makes you happy? BTW, are you trolling me?

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CSPAN can't get the words correct...

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The socialists are getting desperate...... you can see when wayne is bouncing from one site to the other begging someone to talk to him they are clinging to whatever "current claim" against Trump that they can muster along with the resistance that has tried to derail his presidency since he was elected. That's the treason and insurrection that should be investigated. Poor wayne.... guess you have one person that will engage with you on TOS. The only reason I acknowledged you this morning is the fact that you have spent the better part of 36 hours begging for someone to respond to you. Here you go. Maybe you should check out Indeed.com or the local help wanted ads. Do the community a favor and contribute rather then try and be a pot stirrer on message boards.

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Good afternoon,
Glad I can visit each board, too bad you have to have 20 aliases since you have been banned.

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I don't have 20 aliases. I had two. The takeover by the liberals on that site is proof that the censorship by tech is real. You however should pony up and join this site if you are going to bad mouth the posters here that DO pay and are members. You are nothing but a pot stirrer. You have did it over there for years and now you are doing it here. You bring nothing of substance other than to be contrary. Get a life man.....get a life. 16 hours a day on message boards is a sad existence but one you have embraced.

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BBW, the world is made up of takers and givers. Which one do you this person is?

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AG Barr didn't see anything worth investigating. The Georgia Republican SOS is satisfied that there's nothing requiring further investigation. Fifty-some courts didn't see anything worth hearing more about.

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So in their opinion is wasn't worth investigating? What 50 courts ruled on the Georgia case? You conflated your argument with cases in Pennsylvania, Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin etc.... can't be a democrat without spinning a narrative to fit your set of facts. Pick and choose bits and pieces to assemble a story. Spin it and keep telling it. I mean it worked for Teddy Kennedy and he's one of your most admired politicians right? If the democrats and their media partners tell us something enough we are supposed to believe and live with it. BS. Those days are over. the DNC and the MSM have been in bed for decades and thank God President Trump outed them for what they are. A propaganda arm of the liberal left.

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CSPAN can't get the words correct...

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So other than one typo, are they wrong?
You can't watch the entire tape and conclude anything else other than what they say.

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The socialists are getting desperate...... you can see when wayne is bouncing from one site to the other begging someone to talk to him they are clinging to whatever "current claim" against Trump that they can muster along with the resistance that has tried to derail his presidency since he was elected. That's the treason and insurrection that should be investigated. Poor wayne.... guess you have one person that will engage with you on TOS. The only reason I acknowledged you this morning is the fact that you have spent the better part of 36 hours begging for someone to respond to you. Here you go. Maybe you should check out Indeed.com or the local help wanted ads. Do the community a favor and contribute rather then try and be a pot stirrer on message boards.

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Good afternoon,
Glad I can visit each board, too bad you have to have 20 aliases since you have been banned.

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I don't have 20 aliases. I had two. The takeover by the liberals on that site is proof that the censorship by tech is real. You however should pony up and join this site if you are going to bad mouth the posters here that DO pay and are members. You are nothing but a pot stirrer. You have did it over there for years and now you are doing it here. You bring nothing of substance other than to be contrary. Get a life man.....get a life. 16 hours a day on message boards is a sad existence but one you have embraced.

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BBW, the world is made up of takers and givers. Which one do you this person is?

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C-span spelling,again

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• Trump, during his leaked call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, called the U.S.-based company "corrupt" and had to be corrected by Raffensperger after claiming machines had been recently removed and/or altered by Dominion employees.
• Dominion says that the rhetorical barrage has led to death threats against its employees, including one who remains unable to return to his home.

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AG Barr didn't see anything worth investigating. The Georgia Republican SOS is satisfied that there's nothing requiring further investigation. Fifty-some courts didn't see anything worth hearing more about.

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So in their opinion is wasn't worth investigating? What 50 courts ruled on the Georgia case? You conflated your argument with cases in Pennsylvania, Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin etc.... can't be a democrat without spinning a narrative to fit your set of facts. Pick and choose bits and pieces to assemble a story. Spin it and keep telling it. I mean it worked for Teddy Kennedy and he's one of your most admired politicians right? If the democrats and their media partners tell us something enough we are supposed to believe and live with it. BS. Those days are over. the DNC and the MSM have been in bed for decades and thank God President Trump outed them for what they are. A propaganda arm of the liberal left.

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Yes, that bold part is true. I shouldn't disclose this in a public forum, but in order to qualify to register as a Democrat, you first have to drink three scotch highballs, hold your head in a bucket of brackish water for at least thirty seconds, then recite the pledge of allegiance using a New England accent.

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So other than one typo, are they wrong?
You can't watch the entire tape and conclude anything else other than what they say.

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That's real rich coming from people who refuse to listen to the evidence.

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You better look in the mirror, then. You are the one who is refusing to look at the evidence.

In fact, I've noticed a pattern with you: You are presented with evidence you can't refute. So you change the subject, or make fun of a typo in a link someone gives you...or talks about whether someone has a subscription here.....anything to deflect the fact that you have no answer for the facts you were presented with.

Then, later on you come back with "nobody's refuted the evidence" (when they have) or "Trump has this evidence"...which is always the same old refuted evidence repackaged yet again.

And then rinse and repeat. Trump's phone call with the Georgia SOS was exactly what you do: He just regurgitated, Trump-style, all the same old refuted, false claims, over and over. And when told that all those things had in fact, been investigated, he just kept right on talking, not even acknowledging it.
In fact, the closest he came to acknowledging what he'd been told was saying all the people associated with the GBI, FBI and Ga elections investigation were either "incompetent or dishonest". Said that a couple of times.

"Germany: We had our this is Ryan Germany. We had our law enforcement officers talk to everyone who was, who was there after that event came to light. GBI was with them as well as FBI agents.

Trump: Well, there's no way they could then they're incompetent. They're either dishonest or incompetent, okay?
Mitchell: Well, what did they find?
Trump: There's only two answers, dishonesty or incompetence. There's just no way. Look. There's no way."

Sorry Mr. President, but the only thing that there's "no way" is, that everyone associated with the Georgia elections, the GBI and the FBI is "dishonest or incompetent". There IS absolutely no way that's the case.

So yes, everything Trump has claimed has been refuted. It's right there for anyone to read. Not a single bit of it was true, and he keeps right on repeating it. He failed to present anything in court, he failed to present anything legitimate, anywhere.
I'm not even sure he's lying. Lying means you know it's not true and you say it anyway. I'm not even sure that's the case...after hearing him talk, he may well actually believe the crap he's saying. But he's still wrong, and it's hurting our country badly for the President of the United States to be this gullible or dishonest, whichever it is.

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• Some saying no evidence and/or listening to people they align with to support their opinion
• Some saying there is evidence and/or listening to people they align with to support their opinion

• Some saying you will follow a person off a cliff
• Some saying you are naive for not listening to the evidence

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Here is what we have:

• Some saying no evidence and/or listening to people they align with to support their opinion
• Some saying there is evidence and/or listening to people they align with to support their opinion

Then we have:

• Some saying you will follow a person off a cliff
• Some saying you are naive for not listening to the evidence

As I have said a number of times, let the process play out... I don't know the truth; however, the person I voted for is playing an uphill challenge, so, I am willing to see it through. Many of people have done the same thing for the person they voted for. In fact, many people still think Trump is an illegitimate President.

If this election gets turned back to Trump, we will have a bunch of people complaining saying he stole it, he cheated, the Republicans are power hungry, Authoritarian, etc... etc...

Not one person on here knows whether Trump lawyers, Data analyst, Trump himself is truthful. Also, not one person on here knows whether they all are not. I know some on here don't like what's going on; however, I'm watching this because we could be witnessing history. History we only read about, not truly live. You don't have to like what's going; however, open your eyes and watch this play out as this may be something we've never seen in our lifetime...

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Here is what we have:

• Some saying no evidence and/or listening to people they align with to support their opinion
• Some saying there is evidence and/or listening to people they align with to support their opinion

Then we have:

• Some saying you will follow a person off a cliff
• Some saying you are naive for not listening to the evidence

As I have said a number of times, let the process play out... I don't know the truth; however, the person I voted for is playing an uphill challenge, so, I am willing to see it through. Many of people have done the same thing for the person they voted for. In fact, many people still think Trump is an illegitimate President.

If this election gets turned back to Trump, we will have a bunch of people complaining saying he stole it, he cheated, the Republicans are power hungry, Authoritarian, etc... etc...

Not one person on here knows whether Trump lawyers, Data analyst, Trump himself is truthful. Also, not one person on here knows whether they all are not. I know some on here don't like what's going on; however, I'm watching this because we could be witnessing history. History we only read about, not truly live. You don't have to like what's going; however, open your eyes and watch this play out as this may be something we've never seen in our lifetime...

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"Not one person on here knows whether Trump lawyers, Data analyst, Trump himself is truthful. Also, not one person on here knows whether they all are not. I know some on here don't like what's going on; however, I'm watching this because we could be witnessing history. History we only read about, not truly live. You don't have to like what's going; however, open your eyes and watch this play out as this may be something we've never seen in our lifetime..."

WOW! What I do know. Is there is no evidence. NONE! to support this president's claims of Election Fraud. How do I know this. All the law suits dismissed or ruled against the President.

I do agree it is historic. However it is a very sad part of American history. That a sitting President is trying to overturn a fair election.

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• go research all the judicial rulings to change election laws across several States
• Descent Decree with Stacey Abrams

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and you have to ask yourself, why? Why doesn't certain people want to have a discussion as to what differences each party has? Somebody is correct, lets just put this to rest by meeting and showing the receipts each party has...

If the Establishment Republicans and the Democrats would just give True his day, somebody will come out looking like an idiot... Why want they do this? Whats in it for them? What will they lose?

Maybe nothing; however, it just looks crappy on their part...

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• Trump called Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger on Jan. 2, urged him to "find" enough votes to overturn his defeat in the state and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if his fellow Republican did not.
• A growing coalition of Republican senators say they will rebel against leadership and try to block formal certification of Biden's victory on Jan. 6. Here's the count.
• Trump's legal efforts have been struck down in federal cases in Georgia, Michigan, Arizona and Pennsylvania and in state courts in Arizona, Michigan, Nevada and Wisconsin.
• At least 86 judges from across the political spectrum, including some appointed by Trump, have rejected at least one post-election lawsuit filed by Trump or supporters, a Washington Post review has found.
• In White House meetings with conspiracists, Trump has talked about imposing martial law and seizing voting machines. One of his strongest backers called him "very erratic."
• Conservative broadcaster Newsmax joined Fox News Media in debunking previous reports of election machinery fraud. Their actions came after technology company Smartmatic sent both a legal demand letter.
• The electoral college gave Joe Biden a decisive majority of its votes on Dec. 14, and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell publicly congratulated Biden and Kamala D. Harris.
• The Supreme Court rejected a Texas lawsuit Dec. 11 that sought to void 20 million votes in four other states. The unsigned order found Texas lacked standing to intervene under the Constitution's Article 3.

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If the Establishment Republicans and the Democrats would just give True his day, somebody will come out looking like an idiot... Why want they do this? Whats in it for them? What will they lose?

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Here is what we have:

• Some saying no evidence and/or listening to people they align with to support their opinion
• Some saying there is evidence and/or listening to people they align with to support their opinion

Then we have:

• Some saying you will follow a person off a cliff
• Some saying you are naive for not listening to the evidence

As I have said a number of times, let the process play out... I don't know the truth; however, the person I voted for is playing an uphill challenge, so, I am willing to see it through. Many of people have done the same thing for the person they voted for. In fact, many people still think Trump is an illegitimate President.

If this election gets turned back to Trump, we will have a bunch of people complaining saying he stole it, he cheated, the Republicans are power hungry, Authoritarian, etc... etc...

Not one person on here knows whether Trump lawyers, Data analyst, Trump himself is truthful. Also, not one person on here knows whether they all are not. I know some on here don't like what's going on; however, I'm watching this because we could be witnessing history. History we only read about, not truly live. You don't have to like what's going; however, open your eyes and watch this play out as this may be something we've never seen in our lifetime...

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"Not one person on here knows whether Trump lawyers, Data analyst, Trump himself is truthful. Also, not one person on here knows whether they all are not. I know some on here don't like what's going on; however, I'm watching this because we could be witnessing history. History we only read about, not truly live. You don't have to like what's going; however, open your eyes and watch this play out as this may be something we've never seen in our lifetime..."

WOW! What I do know. Is there is no evidence. NONE! to support this president's claims of Election Fraud. How do I know this. All the law suits dismissed or ruled against the President.

I do agree it is historic. However it is a very sad part of American history. That a sitting President is trying to overturn a fair election.

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What do you call the video of people pulling suitcases of ballots out from under tables after all the poll workers were told to leave and start running them through?

How about the video evidence released this morning of folks in Georgia registering thousands of people at a single address in order to allow them to vote, which is illegal by Georgia law?

You can argue that a court hasn't taken on a case, but you can't argue that there isn't any evidence because we have actual video evidence to the contrary.

Your entitled to your own opinion, but your not entitled to you own facts. There is only one set of facts, and the fact is there is actual video evidence that election fraud happened.

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Here is what we have:

• Some saying no evidence and/or listening to people they align with to support their opinion
• Some saying there is evidence and/or listening to people they align with to support their opinion

Then we have:

• Some saying you will follow a person off a cliff
• Some saying you are naive for not listening to the evidence

As I have said a number of times, let the process play out... I don't know the truth; however, the person I voted for is playing an uphill challenge, so, I am willing to see it through. Many of people have done the same thing for the person they voted for. In fact, many people still think Trump is an illegitimate President.

If this election gets turned back to Trump, we will have a bunch of people complaining saying he stole it, he cheated, the Republicans are power hungry, Authoritarian, etc... etc...

Not one person on here knows whether Trump lawyers, Data analyst, Trump himself is truthful. Also, not one person on here knows whether they all are not. I know some on here don't like what's going on; however, I'm watching this because we could be witnessing history. History we only read about, not truly live. You don't have to like what's going; however, open your eyes and watch this play out as this may be something we've never seen in our lifetime...

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"Not one person on here knows whether Trump lawyers, Data analyst, Trump himself is truthful. Also, not one person on here knows whether they all are not. I know some on here don't like what's going on; however, I'm watching this because we could be witnessing history. History we only read about, not truly live. You don't have to like what's going; however, open your eyes and watch this play out as this may be something we've never seen in our lifetime..."

WOW! What I do know. Is there is no evidence. NONE! to support this president's claims of Election Fraud. How do I know this. All the law suits dismissed or ruled against the President.

I do agree it is historic. However it is a very sad part of American history. That a sitting President is trying to overturn a fair election.

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What do you call the video of people pulling suitcases of ballots out from under tables after all the poll workers were told to leave and start running them through?

How about the video evidence released this morning of folks in Georgia registering thousands of people at a single address in order to allow them to vote, which is illegal by Georgia law?

You can argue that a court hasn't taken on a case, but you can't argue that there isn't any evidence because we have actual video evidence to the contrary.

Your entitled to your own opinion, but your not entitled to you own facts. There is only one set of facts, and the fact is there is actual video evidence that election fraud happened.

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There is no video evidence. There is only spliced videos from Trumps legal team. As the SOS of Georgia told President Trump on the phone call. Georgia Election officials went through this yesterday item by item and countered every Trump team claim. See link below.

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/04/953321408/georgia-election-official-dont-let-misinformation-suppress-your-own-vote

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If the Establishment Republicans and the Democrats would just give True his day, somebody will come out looking like an idiot... Why want they do this? Whats in it for them? What will they lose?

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He had his day, many times. He lost over and over. Your "evidence" was submitted in these court cases and judges did assess them. Even the cases dismissed for lack of standing usually have significant language about the lack of evidence submitted with the lawsuit.
You act like no one has investigated any of these claims, when they have been looked into and almost entirely debunked. You just refuse to accept that the claims you've read are largely based on bad data, terrible analysis, or outright fabrication.

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Another free loading pot stirrer...not even a NCSU fan at that..... such a sad little existance.

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Do you understand how the courts work? Yes!

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