Election Interference/Fraud

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Wolfpackrich1
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No widespread election fraud has been found. None.
Zero.
Never will be.
Oh by the way
William Barr just resigned. Or fired you pick
caryking
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PackBacker07 said:

All Democrat? What's the source?


John Frederick
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caryking
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Barr should have been fired!!! He played politics by hiding the Hunter Biden story. This happened because he got the hard drive last year and didn't do anything. Start reading Jack Maxie on Twitter. He has access to the hard drive and is showing the documents there...
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
IseWolf22
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caryking said:

cowboypack02 said:

caryking said:

80K new registrations happened in Georgia for the Jan 5th run-off election.
I'm calling bull on that. 80K new people did not register to vote for a senator when they didn't vote during a presidential election just a month ago.


Stacy Abrams is a magician!!!


Stacy Abrams has a crap ton of outside donations and has been hiring activists to canvass neighborhoods and register voters. The Republicans are also trying to register new voters.
Something like 24,000 17 year olds turned 18 between the original election and the runoff. The 80K number really isn't that high when you look at the absolutely insane amount of money being dumped on those races
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cowboypack02 said:

caryking said:

cowboypack02 said:

cowboypack02 said:

cowboypack02 said:

Apparently the Arizona Legislature is also looking at sending electors to vote for Trump as well - If so that's 4 states.


At this point its my understanding that the legislatures of Nevada, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Arizona have cast their electoral college votes for Trump. Even though the state is sending democrat electors, the legislature of each state can send electors as well. When you get dueling electors from a state the VP gets to decide which to accept, or not accept either.

This is fun....
The Wisconsin legislature just decided to send their own electors as well. That makes 5 states so far.....


Democrats need to do an investigation into election misconduct, immediately!!!
lol....

As much as people are going to raise hell about it the legislatures do have the right to do it. The question is what is Pence going to do in January. Since there are enough states that are sending separate sets of electors Pence can decide to either accept or deny the second set. Since enough states have gone this way to take the number of votes away from Biden he needs to win I think that Congress is going to vote for who is the next president. It gets really interesting them because each state only gets one vote with republicans holding the advantage there.

We haven't seen anything like this since the 1880s. Wild man

They actually don't have the right to do it. They are constrained by their own state laws.
Additionally, congress sets election day. The method for selecting electors cannot be changed after election day. Any changes the legislature wants to make now aren't valid until 2024.
If this goes to the SC, 7+ will vote against Trump
PackBacker07
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caryking said:

Barr should have been fired!!! He played politics by hiding the Hunter Biden story. This happened because he got the hard drive last year and didn't do anything. Start reading Jack Maxie on Twitter. He has access to the hard drive and is showing the documents there...


He also personally led a DoJ investigation into the tons and tons of alleged voter fraud that just happened. He disagreed, and that cost him his role. Sad!
Y'all means ALL.
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IseWolf22 said:

cowboypack02 said:

caryking said:

cowboypack02 said:

cowboypack02 said:

cowboypack02 said:

Apparently the Arizona Legislature is also looking at sending electors to vote for Trump as well - If so that's 4 states.


At this point its my understanding that the legislatures of Nevada, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Arizona have cast their electoral college votes for Trump. Even though the state is sending democrat electors, the legislature of each state can send electors as well. When you get dueling electors from a state the VP gets to decide which to accept, or not accept either.

This is fun....
The Wisconsin legislature just decided to send their own electors as well. That makes 5 states so far.....


Democrats need to do an investigation into election misconduct, immediately!!!
lol....

As much as people are going to raise hell about it the legislatures do have the right to do it. The question is what is Pence going to do in January. Since there are enough states that are sending separate sets of electors Pence can decide to either accept or deny the second set. Since enough states have gone this way to take the number of votes away from Biden he needs to win I think that Congress is going to vote for who is the next president. It gets really interesting them because each state only gets one vote with republicans holding the advantage there.

We haven't seen anything like this since the 1880s. Wild man

They actually don't have the right to do it. They are constrained by their own state laws.


Did he just say "violating their own state law" in regards to this election?

Is this the Twilight Zone?


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caryking said:

Barr should have been fired!!! He played politics by hiding the Hunter Biden story. This happened because he got the hard drive last year and didn't do anything. Start reading Jack Maxie on Twitter. He has access to the hard drive and is showing the documents there...

Yep. There was a reason he got through confirmation relatively easily.

He came through for his team.

If slimeball Joe prevails, expect Barr to still have a job in some capacity high up in the DOJ next year.

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PackBacker07 said:

caryking said:

Barr should have been fired!!! He played politics by hiding the Hunter Biden story. This happened because he got the hard drive last year and didn't do anything. Start reading Jack Maxie on Twitter. He has access to the hard drive and is showing the documents there...


He also personally led a DoJ investigation into the tons and tons of alleged voter fraud that just happened. He disagreed, and that cost him his role. Sad!


You speak with such authority! For a person that doesn't like Trump, you are far more in the loop than any of us. I'm impressed!
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

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SupplyChainPack
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

No widespread election fraud has been found. None.
Zero.
Never will be.
Oh by the way
William Barr just resigned. Or fired you pick

Just because CNN doesn't tell you about it - doesn't mean it isn't there.

Remember when they got you so excited about RUSSIARUSSIARUSSIA? Those are some good memories!
caryking
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SupplyChainPack said:

IseWolf22 said:

cowboypack02 said:

caryking said:

cowboypack02 said:

cowboypack02 said:

cowboypack02 said:

Apparently the Arizona Legislature is also looking at sending electors to vote for Trump as well - If so that's 4 states.


At this point its my understanding that the legislatures of Nevada, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Arizona have cast their electoral college votes for Trump. Even though the state is sending democrat electors, the legislature of each state can send electors as well. When you get dueling electors from a state the VP gets to decide which to accept, or not accept either.

This is fun....
The Wisconsin legislature just decided to send their own electors as well. That makes 5 states so far.....


Democrats need to do an investigation into election misconduct, immediately!!!
lol....

As much as people are going to raise hell about it the legislatures do have the right to do it. The question is what is Pence going to do in January. Since there are enough states that are sending separate sets of electors Pence can decide to either accept or deny the second set. Since enough states have gone this way to take the number of votes away from Biden he needs to win I think that Congress is going to vote for who is the next president. It gets really interesting them because each state only gets one vote with republicans holding the advantage there.

We haven't seen anything like this since the 1880s. Wild man

They actually don't have the right to do it. They are constrained by their own state laws.


Did he just say "violating their own state law" in regards to this election?

Is this the Twilight Zone?





So true! This whole damn election is a violation of state and federal law!!! The irony of the left!!!
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
SupplyChainPack
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caryking said:

SupplyChainPack said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

I understand what our government is. Again I do not need civics lessons from you.


Apparently you do. You said that we had a democracy.


Supplychain, rich is a hack! Your best to ignore him! He doesn't have knowledge of anything. Lacking knowledge means ignorant.

Yep - I have a funny feeling I know him from somewhere else.....
PackBacker07
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No clue what this means, but pretty easy to find info on Trump being mad at Barr in regards to the DoJ's findings of no widespread fraud, and then being mad again at this Hunter Biden deal. So he fired him. Not sure how you can argue that, but I guess when you're averse to facts you can just say whatever you want?
Y'all means ALL.
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https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/12/14/294555-n294555
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“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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SupplyChainPack said:

Pacfanweb said:

ncsualum05 said:

Fraud happened. Too much to deny.
All evidence to the contrary, of course.

Supposedly all this fraud, clear as day....yet evidently it wasn't clear to Trump or anyone on his legal team since they didn't bring any of it in front of a judge or include it in any of their filings.

But hey, some random nobody said something....it got tweeted and retweeted by folks who want to believe it...made it to rumble or parler....and is now accepted as fact by those who don't bother to look up the fact that it was debunked the next day.

You could say that about pretty much every single claim of fraud. So evidently, just like UNC fans claiming they were "cleared" by the NCAA, if you say it enough times it must be true.

It's funny that you bring up UNC-CHeat.

Anybody that followed that closely knew that there were stacks upon stacks of evidence that the CHeats were as corrupt as it was humanly possible to be within the realm of sports.

And yet - the media totally buried all of it. Agency after agency that should have and could have provided oversight - walked away from their duty. And the CHeats totally skated.

On a much larger and more critical scale - the same techniques that were used to protect the CHeats are being used to protect the Biden campaign. On a much larger scale, the same way that CHeat fans covered their eyes and ears to protect themselves from anything that might indicate that the school that they worshipped did anything wrong - so do those that worship at the Dem alter - refuse to let the blatantly obvious fraud sneak past their personal defenses.


Dude, the media didn't bury it at all The N&O was all over it. Dan Kane roasted them on a regular basis. You can find loads of articles detailing the scam.
That's just not true in the least.
Now....at certain media outlets **cough**WRAL**cough**...yeah, they reported the bare minimum and did zero investigation or analysis on their own.
But you can't say the media didn't cover it. It was covered pretty well.

You're correct about the agencies tasked with oversight not doing their jobs...the NCAA didn't have to accept "It was a typo" from UNC as their defense....but they did. And that was a fix if there ever was one.

The election stuff isn't remotely comparable, other than the UNC fans claiming they were "cleared" since the NCAA chose to believe their lies.
Just like Trump fans have CHOSEN to believe all the BS that's being thrown around.

His info has been debunked time and time again, but our own King of Cary keeps coming back with right wing links as if they have valid info. And he says you can't trust the MSM.

Well, I don't say "always trust the MSM" at all. They certainly have an agenda....but they're RIGHT in this case. The courts have backed up pretty much all of their reporting, and have refuted pretty much every link folks like King and you, etc, provide.

So that's reason enough to assume they're at least mostly right with regards to this.
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caryking said:

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/12/14/294555-n294555



"So we don't know if what the report is saying is true."
Y'all means ALL.
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caryking said:

Pacfanweb said:

caryking said:

Pacfanweb said:

caryking said:

if true, why?

https://populist.press/logs-missing-from-antrim-county-dominion-voting-machines/


I'm going to go with not true so "why" isn't particularly relevant

I know you can do better than that...
Provide a better source and maybe I can. Otherwise, that source isn't credible, and not a single credible source I can find to back it up, so I'm going with "not true", like most everything else those types of sources have reported so far.

If you think anybody in MSM is going to report this, come on... These folks are straight shooters. Slanted, yes. But, they are straight shooters...

Direct report..

Crucial security and adjudication logs are missing from Dominion Voting Systems machines from Michigan's Antrim County, according to a forensics report (pdf) released on Dec. 14 in compliance with a court order.

"Significantly, the computer system shows vote adjudication logs for prior years; but all adjudication log entries for the 2020 election cycle are missing. The adjudication process is the simplest way to manually manipulate votes. The lack of records prevents any form of audit accountability, and their conspicuous absence is extremely suspicious since the files exist for previous years using the same software," the report, authored by Russell Ramsland, states.

"We must conclude that the 2020 election cycle records have been manually removed."

The absence of the adjudication logs is particularly alarming because the forensic exam found that the voting machines rejected an extraordinary number of ballots for adjudication, a manual process in which election workers determine the ultimate outcome for each ballot.

"The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots," Ramsland said. "We observed an error rate of 68.05 percent. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election integrity."

"These errors resulted in overall tabulation errors or ballots being sent to adjudication. This high error rates proves the Dominion Voting System is flawed and does not meet state or federal election laws," he added. "Because the intentional high error rate generates large numbers of ballots to be adjudicated by election personnel, we must deduce that bulk adjudication occurred. However, because files and adjudication logs are missing, we have not yet determined where the bulk adjudication occurred or who was responsible for it. Our research continues."

Ramsland manages the Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG), which includes former Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, and Central Intelligence Agency officials. The group focuses on cybersecurity and open-source network penetration testing.

ASOG examined Dominion products in Antrim County earlier this month as part of an ongoing case. The team inspected and performed forensic duplication on the county's election management server, which was running Dominion Democracy Suite 5.5.3-002, compact flash cards used by local precincts in their Dominion ImageCast system, USB memory sticks used by Dominion Voter Assist Terminals, and USB memory sticks used for the poll book.

In addition to missing adjudication logs, the examination found that the systems are also missing security logs prior to 11 p.m. on Nov. 4.

"This means that all security logs for the day after the election, on Election Day, and prior to Election Day are gone. Security logs are very important to an audit trail, forensics, and for detecting advanced persistent threats and outside attacks, especially on systems with outdated system files," Ramsland said.

"These logs would contain domain controls, authentication failures, error codes, times users logged on and off, network connections to file servers between file accesses, internet connections, times, and data transfers," he added. "Other server logs before November 4, 2020 are present; therefore, there is no reasonable explanation for the security logs to be missing."

13th Circuit Judge Kevin Elsenheimer approved the forensic examination in Bailey v. Antrim County, which alleges the infamous vote flip county officials reported last month may have not been the result of human error, as officials had alleged.

Elsenheimer earlier Monday agreed to let the report on the examination be published.

The office of Michigan's Democrat Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, Dominion, and a spokesman for Antrim County didn't respond to requests for comment.

Erik Grill, an assistant attorney general, told the judge on Monday morning that Ramsland's preliminary report was "inaccurate, incomplete, and misleading." Haider Kazim, an attorney for the county, said it contained several errors the county believes were based on "faulty assumptions and incorrect assumptions."

Zachary Stieber contributed to this report.
Dude...that "forensics report" is by someone who was paid to do it for Trump folks.

It's grossly inaccurate and WAY biased. It's as biased as you claim the MSM to be.

And you're simply wrong: The MSM is in business, first and foremost, to make money.

Widespread election fraud on a scale that Trump claims would be the biggest story since the end of WWII.

They would not let that go unreported, even if it meant their guy would lose because of it. They don't hate Trump more than they love money.

So yeah, their reporting of this has been pretty accurate, and has been backed up by the court cases and the lack of Trump's team bringing ANY cases of fraud to a judge.
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caryking said:








For the third time, that is not how this works! Those alternate electors won't be certified, and those states aren't sending "contested" votes. Get out of the bubble!
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Good article on the 1960 Hawaii electors...

https://www.rollcall.com/2020/10/26/we-the-people-what-happens-when-a-state-cant-decide-on-its-electors/
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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Pacfanweb said:

SupplyChainPack said:

Pacfanweb said:

ncsualum05 said:

Fraud happened. Too much to deny.
All evidence to the contrary, of course.

Supposedly all this fraud, clear as day....yet evidently it wasn't clear to Trump or anyone on his legal team since they didn't bring any of it in front of a judge or include it in any of their filings.

But hey, some random nobody said something....it got tweeted and retweeted by folks who want to believe it...made it to rumble or parler....and is now accepted as fact by those who don't bother to look up the fact that it was debunked the next day.

You could say that about pretty much every single claim of fraud. So evidently, just like UNC fans claiming they were "cleared" by the NCAA, if you say it enough times it must be true.

It's funny that you bring up UNC-CHeat.

Anybody that followed that closely knew that there were stacks upon stacks of evidence that the CHeats were as corrupt as it was humanly possible to be within the realm of sports.

And yet - the media totally buried all of it. Agency after agency that should have and could have provided oversight - walked away from their duty. And the CHeats totally skated.

On a much larger and more critical scale - the same techniques that were used to protect the CHeats are being used to protect the Biden campaign. On a much larger scale, the same way that CHeat fans covered their eyes and ears to protect themselves from anything that might indicate that the school that they worshipped did anything wrong - so do those that worship at the Dem alter - refuse to let the blatantly obvious fraud sneak past their personal defenses.


Dude, the media didn't bury it at all The N&O was all over it. Dan Kane roasted them on a regular basis. You can find loads of articles detailing the scam.
That's just not true in the least.
Now....at certain media outlets **cough**WRAL**cough**...yeah, they reported the bare minimum and did zero investigation or analysis on their own.
But you can't say the media didn't cover it. It was covered pretty well.

You're correct about the agencies tasked with oversight not doing their jobs...the NCAA didn't have to accept "It was a typo" from UNC as their defense....but they did. And that was a fix if there ever was one.

The election stuff isn't remotely comparable, other than the UNC fans claiming they were "cleared" since the NCAA chose to believe their lies.
Just like Trump fans have CHOSEN to believe all the BS that's being thrown around.

His info has been debunked time and time again, but our own King of Cary keeps coming back with right wing links as if they have valid info. And he says you can't trust the MSM.

Well, I don't say "always trust the MSM" at all. They certainly have an agenda....but they're RIGHT in this case. The courts have backed up pretty much all of their reporting, and have refuted pretty much every link folks like King and you, etc, provide.

So that's reason enough to assume they're at least mostly right with regards to this.

The media - in NC and national - esp. ESPN - TOTALLY buried the UNCHeat affair.

Dan Kane a diamond in the rough - and a very lonely man.

Now I know there are people here that still remember that garbage - please, please don't come on here and try to sell that that the media - sports or otherwise - even remotely covered this story with even a modicum of what it deserved.

Does everyone remember, "How will this affect recruiting?"

And this is exactly a comparable situation. Not that the Biden cover-up isn't infinitely more important - but that the techniques used to deflect, defend and bury are the same. Almost exactly the same.

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another outlet talking about registrations in Georgia...


On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
Pacfanweb
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You're saying all the MSM is covering up the fraud.
They aren't. It's impossible.

And as I said before, some of the media did report on the Cheats. It wasn't across the board as you claim with the election.
There was a good bit of reporting done.
Easily verified.
Wolfpackrich1
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Cary Monarch and now pineknoll shore monarch. Once a monachist always a monachist.
Welcome back Pal
mrcpack17
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pineknollshoresking said:

Good article on the 1960 Hawaii electors...

https://www.rollcall.com/2020/10/26/we-the-people-what-happens-when-a-state-cant-decide-on-its-electors/

The governor signed on both sets of electors given the unusual circumstances of that election.

No governor has signed off on any alternative set of electors.

The GOP electors that voted today have as much legal standing as me saying I have 15 electors from NC who cast their votes for Mr. and Mrs. Wuf for Pres and VP.
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Dominion is ***** Evidence
Wolfpackrich1
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Come on dude. Fake news! Noise
cowboypack02
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SupplyChainPack said:

IseWolf22 said:

cowboypack02 said:

caryking said:

cowboypack02 said:

cowboypack02 said:

cowboypack02 said:

Apparently the Arizona Legislature is also looking at sending electors to vote for Trump as well - If so that's 4 states.


At this point its my understanding that the legislatures of Nevada, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Arizona have cast their electoral college votes for Trump. Even though the state is sending democrat electors, the legislature of each state can send electors as well. When you get dueling electors from a state the VP gets to decide which to accept, or not accept either.

This is fun....
The Wisconsin legislature just decided to send their own electors as well. That makes 5 states so far.....


Democrats need to do an investigation into election misconduct, immediately!!!
lol....

As much as people are going to raise hell about it the legislatures do have the right to do it. The question is what is Pence going to do in January. Since there are enough states that are sending separate sets of electors Pence can decide to either accept or deny the second set. Since enough states have gone this way to take the number of votes away from Biden he needs to win I think that Congress is going to vote for who is the next president. It gets really interesting them because each state only gets one vote with republicans holding the advantage there.

We haven't seen anything like this since the 1880s. Wild man

They actually don't have the right to do it. They are constrained by their own state laws.


Did he just say "violating their own state law" in regards to this election?

Is this the Twilight Zone?





Lol...the legislatures in several states would like to have a word about their own courts circumventing the constitution to change election laws
Wolfpackrich1
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Hey I second the vote on Mr and Mrs Wuf
caryking
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This article speaks of dueling electors..

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-dueling-electors-explain-idUSKBN2712M7

On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
caryking
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You can't make up this stuff...

https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2020-12-14-dem-state-senator-claims-indefinite-confinement-is-not-confined-to-home/
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
Wolfpackrich1
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You making stuff up again monarch?
Dmax95
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

Come on dude. Fake news! Noise



Why is it?
caryking
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Dmax95 said:




Why is it?
You guys need to quit quoting rich. He is a hack and I've ignored him. My suggestion is to ignore as well. He adds no value to any conversation and really is just a troll at best..
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
Dmax95
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pineknollshoresking said:

Dmax95 said:




Why is it?
You guys need to quit quoting rich. He is a hack and I've ignored him. My suggestion is to ignore as well. He adds no value to any conversation and really is just a troll at best..


He doesn't read anything obviously. Thanks
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