Election Interference/Fraud

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Wolfpackrich1
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Trump loses Supreme Court bid that he joined Texas on. Last straw. He sickens me with the lies he has told about this election. He is trying to destroy our democracy. His followers are blind to his lies and misinformation. I just wish the Republicans had a backbone but that is obviously not the case.

History will not look favorable on Trump or his followers.

Just the facts.
IseWolf22
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Soo, what's next?
caryking
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Not much. Nobody wanted to touch this with a ten foot pole...
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
Dmax95
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IseWolf22 said:

Soo, what's next?


Not sure. Seeing some evidence that dominion voting machines were at fault for voting irregularities.

Seeing where some states now want to sucede from the union.

Getting wild out there. Just wanted to ensure fair election trump winning or not. Seems the swamp is back in control. Regardless of outcome they win. Expect higher oil prices, more conflicts abroad, higher taxes/costs, climate change brunt put back on USA and not China, and whole host of things that don't mesh with common sense. The swamp entails the far left and old guard right warhawks. Kind sad they're back in control. I guess they really never left. Fbi, Doj, and CIA didn't do anything to help trump.
statefan91
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For reference for future threads -

- Secede
- Secession
- Secessionist
Dmax95
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statefan91 said:

For reference for future threads -

- Secede
- Secession
- Secessionist

Nailed it. Hah. Autocorrect
Pacfanweb
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Dmax95 said:

IseWolf22 said:

Soo, what's next?


Not sure. Seeing some evidence that dominion voting machines were at fault for voting irregularities.

Seeing where some states now want to succeed from the union.

Getting wild out there. Just wanted to ensure fair election trump winning or not. Seems the swamp is back in control. Regardless of outcome they win. Expect higher oil prices, more conflicts abroad, higher taxes/costs, climate change brunt put back on USA and not China, and whole host of things that don't mesh with common sense. The swamp entails the far left and old guard right warhawks. Kind sad they're back in control. I guess they really never left. Fbi, Doj, and CIA didn't do anything to help trump.
Ever stop and think that maybe, just maybe: Trump is FOS? And all these lies that randomly got put out there, tweeted and retweeted some more long after each and every one was debunked, were just that? Lies?

You could really start with each and every rumor that got thrown out there after the election about "fraud this and cases of ballots that" and go through them one by one:.....every one of them was debunked. All of them. But that didn't matter. Trump and his people ran with them, even though I guarantee Trump really knows it was BS.

The lies kept on: Dominion "server farm" in Germany raided by the US Army, no less. Total BS. There was no server farm, no raid, and even if there was for damn sure the US Army wouldn't be doing it on foreign soil.

Dominion got its start with Hugo Chavez....nope, totally false.

All the rumors about funny business in Georgia....just heard this week "servers were seized" there. Nope, totally false, never happened.

Sidney Powell's vaunted military intelligence expert was never in the military intelligence. He was a mechanic.

And on and on and on, but all this BS was seized upon and repeated and repeated by Trump supporters, until now, many of them think it's all true and Trump got screwed.
He didn't. He lost, as fairly and squarely as any other election we've had.
Was there probably some funny business on the local level, around the country? Sure. Always was, always will be. But it's no more or less than any other election....the biggest difference is, Trump. He whined and complained, is a sore loser and has conducted himself as such.
Just like in Iowa 2016, when Cruz beat him. He cried "rigged/fraud" then. Don't see why anyone thought this was any different.

I supported the guy all through his Presidency, thought he did some good things, even though I hated his conduct on Twitter and most any time he opened his mouth...if he could have just shut the hell up and put his phone down, he'd have been viewed FAR differently, IMO.

But his conduct since the election has done terrible harm to our country. That's almost unforgiveable. Luckily, the courts were not having it. At least they still retain some integrity. He should just silently serve the rest of his term and go golfing like we know he's going to do anyway. But you know he won't.

Hopefully things will gradually calm down, Biden will serve his 4 years without too much fuss, and in 2024 we can get some better candidates on both sides.
Civilized
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Dmax95 said:

IseWolf22 said:

Soo, what's next?


Not sure. Seeing some evidence that dominion voting machines were at fault for voting irregularities.

Seeing where some states now want to sucede from the union.

Getting wild out there. Just wanted to ensure fair election trump winning or not. Seems the swamp is back in control. Regardless of outcome they win. Expect higher oil prices, more conflicts abroad, higher taxes/costs, climate change brunt put back on USA and not China, and whole host of things that don't mesh with common sense. The swamp entails the far left and old guard right warhawks. Kind sad they're back in control. I guess they really never left. Fbi, Doj, and CIA didn't do anything to help trump.

I don't think it's stateS that want to secede. I don't think it's even A state. It's one rep, in Texas.

That the rep is in the state of Texas rather than some other state isn't that surprising under any circumstances given Texas' sovereign nation pedigree.

The courts are telling you over and over and over again the election was fair. Trump is historically polarizing, and at this point more people hate Trump than love Trump, and he lost. This isn't hard.
Dmax95
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This guy and I are wired similarly.
Wolfpackrich1
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You have it nailed. 100% correct.
One thing I can't get my mind around is all of Trump supporters would tell you that they love America. But do they? Or do they just love Trump's view of polarized America? He is just so divisive and wants to keep driving a wedge between Americans.
dogplasma
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IseWolf22 said:

Soo, what's next?
There's a new season of Battlebots on Discovery Channel. Two teams, red and blue, spending a lot of money and time trying to destroy each other in a short head-to-head contest. If it's really close, it goes to the judges to decide. Just sayin' - seems like a natural segue with this election wrapped up.
statefan91
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Dmax95 said:

statefan91 said:

For reference for future threads -

- Secede
- Secession
- Secessionist

Nailed it. Hah. Autocorrect


Haha, I have seen succeed on a lot of Twitter posts already, Apples going to need to update their algorithm
Dmax95
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

You have it nailed. 100% correct.
One thing I can't get my mind around is all of Trump supporters would tell you that they love America. But do they? Or do they just love Trump's view of polarized America? He is just so divisive and wants to keep driving a wedge between Americans.


That's the media response 100%. Sounds like what I hear every day from mass media. Dang
dogplasma
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Or civil war with Texas. Another fun way to spend Friday night.
Wolfpackrich1
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Because it is true.
Dmax95
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

Because it is true.


Name one thing that the mass media doesn't lie about? Convince me and Then I'll say is true.
Wolfpackrich1
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That Trump is a liar.
Dmax95
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

That Trump is a list.


Nice try. You had your chance. Cheers
Pacfanweb
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Dmax95 said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Because it is true.


Name one thing that the mass media doesn't lie about? Convince me and Then I'll say is true.
That Trump had no evidence and the election would never be overturned in court. That was proven, what...50-some-odd times to 1?

That Trump lost the election.

I could keep going, but that's 2 things right there that you can't argue with.

I'd agree with you that the media most certainly leans left. They hated Trump and it showed. He made it worse with his behavior.
It wasn't a good look from either side.

But you folks that think the media had some giant, coordinated agenda they all follow and everything is calculated....you are wrong.
Again, they're mostly leftists. They love the Dems. But they mostly aren't "communists/socialists" and not looking for the gov't to run absolutely everything and doing their level best to make that happen.

They're mostly just Americans whose views differ from yours or mine. Some, maybe even radically, but most, not.
Wolfpackrich1
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Dmax95 said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

That Trump is a list.


Nice try. You had your chance. Cheers


I was not wrong and you know it.
But you probably are one of his supporters that would say he did not say that. He was taken out of context. Yadda yadda yadda
cmast
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

That Trump is a liar.


And a ****ty one at that. He's trolled his own fools and they've bought it hook, line and sinker. Like geoff collins, gettin whooped makes for a tough handshake.
Dmax95
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I love/hate how triggered people get. They've bought the hate from the mass media hook like and sinker. They want you to hate me or think I'm an idiot. I don't hate Biden and neither the haters. Politics isn't religion, not enough to hate anyone for thinking different. Sad stuff. I'm somehow the problem. Hmm.
cmast
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Gotta bring proof and facts to court. Who the **** knew?
cmast
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Dmax95 said:

I love how triggered people get. They've bought the hate from the mass media hook like and sinker. They want you to hate me or think I'm an idiot. I don't hate Biden and neither the haters. Politics isn't religion, not enough to hate anyone for thinking different. Sad stuff. I'm somehow the problem. Hmm.


I love you. Youre a pack fan!
Dmax95
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Likewise
cmast
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Dmax95 said:

Likewise


And your statement above probably was not wrong. i do get triggered. Especially after a couple dranks.
cmast
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Dmax95 said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Because it is true.


Name one thing that the mass media doesn't lie about? Convince me and Then I'll say is true.


Mass media has some major flaws. As does mainstream music. But thats what 80% of the population watches/listens to. You better learn to live with it and let it work for you. It could be worse. See russia, china and k-pop.
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caryking
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Pacfanweb said:

Dmax95 said:




Name one thing that the mass media doesn't lie about? Convince me and Then I'll say is true.
That Trump had no evidence and the election would never be overturned in court. That was proven, what...50-some-odd times to 1?

That Trump lost the election.

I could keep going, but that's 2 things right there that you can't argue with.

I'd agree with you that the media most certainly leans left. They hated Trump and it showed. He made it worse with his behavior.
It wasn't a good look from either side.

But you folks that think the media had some giant, coordinated agenda they all follow and everything is calculated....you are wrong.
Again, they're mostly leftists. They love the Dems. But they mostly aren't "communists/socialists" and not looking for the gov't to run absolutely everything and doing their level best to make that happen.

They're mostly just Americans whose views differ from yours or mine. Some, maybe even radically, but most, not.
  • Trump had no evidence - not true. Evidence is a plenty, now...
  • and the election would never be overturned in court - that, I agree with. First, judges, across States are far more partisan than even Federal judges. So, judges, in general are not going see these types of complaints for what they are. Judges, have a mindset of: don't disturb the will of the people
  • But you folks that think the media had some giant, coordinated agenda they all follow and everything is calculated....you are wrong - I believe you are ill informed on this. I would ask you to listen to some of the 9:00 CNN calls that Project Veritas is putting out. Additionally, watch some of the montages put together showing multiple networks using the same wording (or talking points) to describe issues.
  • But they mostly aren't "communists/socialists" and not looking for the gov't to run absolutely everything and doing their level best to make that happen. - that's where you and I completely disagree. The communist party in the US, in the early 60's, stated clearly they wanted control of schools, school newspapers, media in order to change the entire ideology of people, more importantly the media. The vast majority of people in the media may not think they want socialism/communism; however, how would they even know? That's all they have been educated in...
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
caryking
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cmast said:

Dmax95 said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Because it is true.


Name one thing that the mass media doesn't lie about? Convince me and Then I'll say is true.


Mass media has some major flaws. As does mainstream music. But thats what 80% of the population watches/listens to. You better learn to live with it and let it work for you. It could be worse. See russia, china and k-pop.
Unfortunately for mass media, I believe their days are limited. More and more conservative outlets are popping up all over the place. Look at FoxNews since the election. They are now falling behind CNN and MSNBC in viewers.

People are going to alternative news, like: OANN, NewsMax, America's Voice (online or an app for Roku), and so many more online news sites: populists.press, revolver news, the gateway pundit, just the news, and so much more...

My personal favorite is: War Room with Steve Bannon. I watch it on Americas Voice; however, it's available on a number of outlets...
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
SupplyChainPack
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Also The Blaze and The First.

Not to mention great sites like PJ Media and Daily Wire.

Of course Veritas has the best under cover investigative journalism in America.

Also Citizen Free Press and SpinQuark are excellent news aggregators.
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"Trump had no evidence - not true. Evidence is a plenty, now..."


The evidence is overwhelming. Only a complete fool would actually believe that Biden won the election legitimately.

The courts are just doing what most liberals do. Demanding to see the evidence while putting on a heavy blindfold, stuffing their ears with cotton, and chanting loudly to ensure there is no way for evidence to make it through.

caryking
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SupplyChainPack said:



"Trump had no evidence - not true. Evidence is a plenty, now..."


The evidence is overwhelming. Only a complete fool would actually believe that Biden won the election legitimately.

The courts are just doing what most liberals do. Demanding to see the evidence while putting on a heavy blindfold, stuffing their ears with cotton, and chanting loudly to ensure there is no way for evidence to make it through.




You said the courts are doing what most liberals do...

The courts are not made up completely by liberals... The evidence is clear showing fraud; however, drop the fraud thinking and focus on the legality of the moves made by non-legislators.

Why do you think the courts are doing this.?
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
caryking
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SupplyChainPack said:

Also The Blaze and The First.

Not to mention great sites like PJ Media and Daily Wire.

Of course Veritas has the best under cover investigative journalism in America.

Also Citizen Free Press and SpinQuark are excellent news aggregators.



Thanks for adding them as well...
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
Wolfpackrich1
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Some on here say that only a blind fool could not see the evidence. Perhaps you are the blind fool.
The supreme court said the case was moot
No evidence. None. Notta.

Then there is some on here that say that main stream media is bias against Trump. That there is right wing conservative channels giving out the facts.
Yes there is right wing conservative channels but they put forth zero facts. They are fake news. They say whatever Trump says. And it is proven he is a liar. Yes proven he is a liar.
Evidence is the key.

Remember the supreme court said the media is for the governed. Not the Government. Trump wants the media to be for him the government.
He is corrupt and his soul is corrupted.
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