^^ Many on this site can't handle the truth; refuse to watch I suspect. Hard for them to accept they've been fooled too.........

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^^ Many on this site can't handle the truth; refuse to watch I suspect. Hard for them to accept they've been fooled too.........

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Oh I can handle the truth. I've only got 2 years left (or maybe just 1) according to you, so what's a little AIDS sprinkled on top? Long hair don't care.

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Not according to me... and I think there's much more thought that there are placebos, variations, strengths, etc. My intended point is consistent with Dr Malone's contention that this was essentially a hoax.....hyped fear so that people would agree to the jab.

As far as mortality, there is a 40% uptick in Life Insurance policy claims reported by one life insurance co....a 100-yr pandemic would only see 10%....its the JAB!. The military was reporting an 1100% increase, etc. The ADE is going to be plausibly deniable short of an autopsy as I understand it. V-AIDS will be a slower process of much sickness etc.

My point is NOT to spike a damn football. My point is to wake the HE$$ up. Start paying attention to all this and not simply react and report a bunch of #'s. The PCR test was bull*****........the virus should be called the PCR virus......and the EVIL ones were able to con 50-60% of our population into taking an experimental concoction to protect themselves from a 99.85% survivability rate.

We are all on the same team. This is much, much bigger than this virus and jab and I don't think 25% of the people on this board have figured this out. We are ""down on the ground with a huge pair of hands gripping our throats" and most don't even understand it.

Michael Jordan was a helluva competitor but he worked damn hard. He expected the same effort out of his teammates and was often considererd a belligerent *******..........but he pushed his teammates...to win. WAKE THE HE$$ UP guys! Yep, I'm poking at guys on here........sure am. Not because I don't care.......its because I DO CARE.

Things are going to have to get much worse...........why.....because there are still too many asleep.

Ignore is your choice of course. When Biden and the Corporate MEDIA start pushing the US into a major war with Russia i hope you can apply what you learned from the lies told to you about the virus and the jab. It will apply to Ukraine too.

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Listen, there has been way to much false information shared here. False information that has clearly been proven false. If your only agenda is to post anti vax information or opinions, start your own thread about it. Davie and a few others do an amazing job keeping things good on this thread. Some others don't. Again, start your own thread if you want to post random links to random articles about your hatred for vaccines. Otherwise, we will just lock this one up and move on. Hate to because I still think a lot of relivent info is posted here.

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Are you still a moderator? If so, is this an "official" change in the rules around here? Because this goes against what Steve Williams made clear a few months back, when he posted several times that there would NOT be any censorship in the Water Cooler based on viewpoint. Steve made very clear that the only rule here was to not post personal attacks.

And if this is a new rule, who determines what is "false" information that cannot be posted? Anthony Fauci or the White House? Doesn't that basically mean that no information can be posted that goes against the "official" narrative endorsed by the government and Establishment media? Wouldn't that just be using the same tactics of the communist Left and implementing the same form of content censorship now enacted by Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and other Big Tech companies -- censoring anyone who goes against the official narrative?

That would effectively be enacting another Leftist "safe space" where people can only regurgitate the Establishment narrative in a circle-jerk, with all conservatives and other "conspiracy theorists" censored and silenced because they allegedly post "false" and "dangerous" views.

What if I demanded that in any threads I start, no one can disagree with me, and anyone who disagrees with me must have their posts removed because I have determined that anyone who disagrees with me is posting "false information"?

In reality, it is the Leftist Establishment narrative that is truly false. But in order for more people to realize this, we must be able to have a debate. We must have freedom of speech. If we are only allowed to post views and opinions that are "approved" by the government and the Leftist Establishment and Big Tech, then we are all going to just believe the false information spoon fed to us by the Establishment.

And look, I get it that it's annoying when someone spams a thread with random links. It annoys me when ciscopack (I think it was) would do that. But I never whined and said that he should be censored. No one should be censored, no matter how "annoying" their posts are or how much any one of us might disagree with those views.

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Call it what you want. I ain't Twitter, Facebook or any of the rest. When one or two people intentionally hijack a thread, it ain't gonna work. Maybe you missed the part about starting your own thread. Wonder if that is what Facebook, Twitter, etc would do??

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Are you a moderator or not? Is this an official new rule or not? Because it directly goes against what Steve Williams made clear a few months ago.

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Call it what you want. I ain't Twitter, Facebook or any of the rest. When one or two people intentionally hijack a thread, it ain't gonna work. Maybe you missed the part about starting your own thread. Wonder if that is what Facebook, Twitter, etc would do??

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I'm not "hijacking" anything. As I said, I admit that I find it annoying when someone just "bombs" links with no discussion, as ciscopack did/does. But I don't do that. I have a discussion with others here, about the information I post and that is posted by others. I'm not breaking any rules.

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Call it what you want. I ain't Twitter, Facebook or any of the rest. When one or two people intentionally hijack a thread, it ain't gonna work. Maybe you missed the part about starting your own thread. Wonder if that is what Facebook, Twitter, etc would do??

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I'm not "hijacking" anything. As I said, I admit that I find it annoying when someone just "bombs" links with no discussion, as ciscopack did/does. But I don't do that. I have a discussion with others here, about the information I post and that is posted by others. I'm not breaking any rules.

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Did not say you were GP. You responded all huffy puffy and it wasn't even about you.

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Listen, there has been way to much false information shared here. False information that has clearly been proven false. If your only agenda is to post anti vax information or opinions, start your own thread about it. Davie and a few others do an amazing job keeping things good on this thread. Some others don't. Again, start your own thread if you want to post random links to random articles about your hatred for vaccines. Otherwise, we will just lock this one up and move on. Hate to because I still think a lot of relivent info is posted here.

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It seems the easier approach would be to encourage folks to put individual posters on ignore if they are so bothered by unusual posts that appear to be false and off script from approved narratives. The freedom to censor what one consumes is built into the board software. IMHO, there is no need for moderators to mandate what is allowed on any individual thread as long as posts follow board rules. Haven't we had enough MANDATES?

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Leave this thread to honest and open I formation and start a other one for false stuff. Nobody is saying stop posting, just do it in your own thread because 99.9% of people don't want to read it in this thread.

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Who determines what is "false"? Are you basically saying that information can only be posted if it is pre-approved and jive with the agenda of Anthony Fauci, the CDC, the White House, and the Lamestream Establishment media?

So we effectively can't even have a debate in this thread? We can't question the narrative of the government at all? So, for example, someone would be banished from the thread if they dared to question any aspect of the "official" agenda from any "Establishment" source -- such as questioning whether a mask mandate should be in place, or whether any of the "official data" was wrong? Even Davie and Wayland and many others have routinely done that, and questioned aspects of the official narrative.

The point I'm making is that the "official" narrative is often false. Much of what we are being told to believe by the government, Fauci, the CDC, and the Establishment media is false.

If you only allow one viewpoint to be heard (by labeling anyone who disagrees as "false"), then that is dangerous. That inhibits all of us from being able to ultimately determine what is true or false. We must have freedom of speech and the freedom to disagree and debate in order to be able to determine what is true or false.

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Do you GP. If the fake and obviously false links are continuing to be posted, this thread will be locked and y'all can start your own just like was suggested.

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Again, the truly fake and obviously false information about covid (and basically everything else) is coming from the government and Establishment media. So if we are going to lock this thread for that reason, I guess it should have been locked from day one.

Why is there the "need" to create safe spaces in threads now, where people can only post in threads where they agree with one view promoted by the thread?

Are we basically now saying that no debate is allowed in any thread? Essentially, we are now only allowed to post in a thread if we agree with the person who started the thread? Is this actually an official rule now?

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Do you GP. If the fake and obviously false links are continuing to be posted, this thread will be locked and y'all can start your own just like was suggested.

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I am not defending what the poster you are targeting posts. I am simply defending their right to post it. I think it is easy to put them on ignore if it becomes necessary. For me, it's the principle of exclusion that's more annoying than the noise in the thread.

I am sure there is a fine line in moderating a board. Too much noise and nobody wants to wade through it, too much filter and nobody spends time on the board. I doubt the role is easy or fun. Thanks for your efforts, RWW26.

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Call it what you want. I ain't Twitter, Facebook or any of the rest. When one or two people intentionally hijack a thread, it ain't gonna work. Maybe you missed the part about starting your own thread. Wonder if that is what Facebook, Twitter, etc would do??

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Are you a moderator or not? Is this an official new rule or not? Because it directly goes against what Steve Williams made clear a few months ago.

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His point is that you are posting on the wrong thread (not too mention that it's spam)... is that too difficult of a concept for you to grasp?

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So there is a "rule" that you can't post in a thread if you disagree with the view or opinion of the person who started the thread?

The new rule is that essentially no debate or disagreement is allowed?

All threads are now "safe spaces" for the person who started the thread?

Wow, thank you for clarifying that. Yes, it was very difficult for me to grasp, given that I'm just a "insane conspiracy theorist". Thank you so much.

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Call it what you want. I ain't Twitter, Facebook or any of the rest. When one or two people intentionally hijack a thread, it ain't gonna work. Maybe you missed the part about starting your own thread. Wonder if that is what Facebook, Twitter, etc would do??

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Are you a moderator or not? Is this an official new rule or not? Because it directly goes against what Steve Williams made clear a few months ago.

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His point is that you are posting on the wrong thread (not too mention that it's spam)... is that too difficult of a concept for you to grasp?

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No, I'm absolutely not "spamming" anything in this thread. I'm having a discussion about any links I post, providing my own commentary to the article/link, etc. I respond to others posts here, and interact and have a discussion with people. I'm not just "bombing" links and not discussing the content.

Give me your definition of "spam". Is it spam to simply post a link? Or a lot of them? Then by that definition, Davie and Wayland are guilty too...as they post a ton of links in this thread.

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Call it what you want. I ain't Twitter, Facebook or any of the rest. When one or two people intentionally hijack a thread, it ain't gonna work. Maybe you missed the part about starting your own thread. Wonder if that is what Facebook, Twitter, etc would do??

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Fair enough.

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Call it what you want. I ain't Twitter, Facebook or any of the rest. When one or two people intentionally hijack a thread, it ain't gonna work. Maybe you missed the part about starting your own thread. Wonder if that is what Facebook, Twitter, etc would do??

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Fair enough.

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What's fair about that? A new rule requiring that you can only post in a thread if the creator of the thread agrees with your viewpoint? That's preposterous. That effectively means that no debate or disagreement is allowed.

And in this case, it effectively means that no one can disagree with information deemed to be "true" by Fauci, the CDC, and Biden. Anyone who disagrees with them is deemed to be posting "false information" and can't post in the thread.

Absolutely ridiculous.

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Call it what you want. I ain't Twitter, Facebook or any of the rest. When one or two people intentionally hijack a thread, it ain't gonna work. Maybe you missed the part about starting your own thread. Wonder if that is what Facebook, Twitter, etc would do??

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Fair enough.

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What's fair about that? A new rule requiring that you can only post in a thread if the creator of the thread agrees with your viewpoint? That's preposterous. That effectively means that no debate or disagreement is allowed.

And in this case, it effectively means that no one can disagree with information deemed to be "true" by Fauci, the CDC, and Biden. Anyone who disagrees with them is deemed to be posting "false information" and can't post in the thread.

Absolutely ridiculous.

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What's ridiculous is the fact that you are twisting and turning all you can. I clearly stated don't post obviously false and fake information/links. You want to get all upset and tell that someone is telling you not to post. That's not even close to it. If you want to post obviously false information/links, start a thread for that. No one is censoring **** for you. You clearly have the option to start you're own thread. Instead, you and and a couple of others just want to hijack this thread. That's what's really ridiculous.

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Call it what you want. I ain't Twitter, Facebook or any of the rest. When one or two people intentionally hijack a thread, it ain't gonna work. Maybe you missed the part about starting your own thread. Wonder if that is what Facebook, Twitter, etc would do??

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Fair enough.

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What's fair about that? A new rule requiring that you can only post in a thread if the creator of the thread agrees with your viewpoint? That's preposterous. That effectively means that no debate or disagreement is allowed.

And in this case, it effectively means that no one can disagree with information deemed to be "true" by Fauci, the CDC, and Biden. Anyone who disagrees with them is deemed to be posting "false information" and can't post in the thread.

Absolutely ridiculous.

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What's ridiculous is the fact that you are twisting and turning all you can. I clearly stated don't post obviously false and fake information/links. You want to get all upset and tell that someone is telling you not to post. That's not even close to it. If you want to post obviously false information/links, start a thread for that. No one is censoring **** for you. You clearly have the option to start you're own thread. Instead, you and and a couple of others just want to hijack this thread. That's what's really ridiculous.

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There is NOT a rule against "posting false information". Again, WHO determines what is "false"? Fauci, the CDC, Biden, and the far Left communist Lamestream media?

I'm not breaking any rules. I'm simply disagreeing with the lying Establishment. It is THEY who are the liars, posting false information -- Fauci, CDC, Biden Administration, and the Establishment media.

Again, are you a moderator or not?

If not, then you can't just make up this brand new rule out of thin air.

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Call it what you want. I ain't Twitter, Facebook or any of the rest. When one or two people intentionally hijack a thread, it ain't gonna work. Maybe you missed the part about starting your own thread. Wonder if that is what Facebook, Twitter, etc would do??

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Fair enough.

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What's fair about that? A new rule requiring that you can only post in a thread if the creator of the thread agrees with your viewpoint? That's preposterous. That effectively means that no debate or disagreement is allowed.

And in this case, it effectively means that no one can disagree with information deemed to be "true" by Fauci, the CDC, and Biden. Anyone who disagrees with them is deemed to be posting "false information" and can't post in the thread.

Absolutely ridiculous.

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What's ridiculous is the fact that you are twisting and turning all you can. I clearly stated don't post obviously false and fake information/links. You want to get all upset and tell that someone is telling you not to post. That's not even close to it. If you want to post obviously false information/links, start a thread for that. No one is censoring **** for you. You clearly have the option to start you're own thread. Instead, you and and a couple of others just want to hijack this thread. That's what's really ridiculous.

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There is NOT a rule against "posting false information". Again, WHO determines what is "false"? Fauci, the CDC, Biden, and the far Left communist Lamestream media?

I'm not breaking any rules. I'm simply disagreeing with the lying Establishment. It is THEY who are the liars, posting false information -- Fauci, CDC, Biden Administration, and the Establishment media.

Again, are you a moderator or not?

If not, then you can't just make up this brand new rule out of thin air.

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Actually, there is a rule against misinformation and trolling.

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I recall a rule against "trolling", as that was related to personal attacks, and trying to incite personal back-and-forths with other posters.

Per the latest rules from Steve Williams handed down a few months ago, as I recall the only rules in the Water Cooler were to stay on topic in the threads and not engage in personal attacks.

I do not recall EVER seeing a rule against "misinformation", as it relates to the Water Cooler. I could be wrong. Could you please cite the thread with Steve (or James?) with a rule against "misinformation"?

Maybe there was a rule in the SPORTS forums against posting misinformation.

I assume this means that you are not currently a moderator?

The idea of creating a rule against "misinformation" totally eviscerates freedom of speech. The whole point of having freedom of speech is that we are allowed to disagree, and debate -- and especially to disagree with the "Establishment" and "powers that be".

I mean seriously....we must ban all speech that does not toe the line with what our overlords tell us is the "truth"? Only posts approved by Fauci and the CDC and the far Left commie "fact checkers" are allowed?? That is TOTALLY INSANE.

No one has a monopoly on truth...except God himself. We are all trying to find out what the truth is. And having freedom of speech and the ability to debate is a process that allows us to discover the truth, on a variety of issues.

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Listen, there has been way to much false information shared here. False information that has clearly been proven false. If your only agenda is to post anti vax information or opinions, start your own thread about it. Davie and a few others do an amazing job keeping things good on this thread. Some others don't. Again, start your own thread if you want to post random links to random articles about your hatred for vaccines. Otherwise, we will just lock this one up and move on. Hate to because I still think a lot of relivent info is posted here.

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In your opinion. Look I can fall in line and post thoughts you accept.......perfectly in line with our Corporate Press narrative. Censor the other view point ..........just like Facebook and Twitter?? That's what you want? Its a lie because you didn't see it on CNN or ABC?

The internet is littered with all kinds of info...... Today I read where 90% of those dying from COVID are the vaccinated....and then I also read where 90% dying from COVID are the unvaccinated. No doubt, the truth is hard to find......we're in a war guys and it stuns me that most on here don't know it. The question is who is who .......and then who is on who's side.......that's a hard one to figure out right now. For me the virus and jab are 1-D and easy......the overall picture is much more complex.

So; getting this straight, I'm assuming the following are acceptable posts to you?

- My teenage daughter is having to wear a mask at cheerleading practice and I don't think it is right. She has to breath under the rigorous nature of practice.

- I was able to ride the bus from Charlotte to Raleigh yesterday and some people weren't wearing a mask. i sneaked and wore my mask below my nose.

- The vaccine is safe and provides improved virus protection for me and my family

- I'm glad the vaccine was provided on a EUA basis because I might have been 1 out of the 1,000 that would have died.

- those horse pills are not safe. I give my 6 horses a daily dose of 12 mg Ivermectin pills. It takes 10 to 12 per horse based on their weight. Its so dangerous for humans.

- hydroxychloroquine is dangerous and can cause heart damage, I'll take the EUA vaccine instead.

Are these OK? They fit your perspective? Really, is that what you wish? Think about the lies told by corporate media, you're in a matrix. You want more of it?

I greatly appreciate the opportunity afforded here to post alternative information. Are my posts 100% precise and accurate, I doubt it. Are yours, I doubt it. The information I've posted is being proven more true and definitive each and every day as time passes.....and your narrative is being shown to be false as each day passes.

I do apologize for being gruff with a couple of my posts ....But please understand you've been lied to for the last two plus years.. We're being lied to about Ukraine right now too. Do some homework on Ukraine, its history, its Fascist background and ties to Nazism, and our politicians conduct there. Our establishment is trying to start a damn war with Russia over it. You'll soon have cyberattacks and food shortages blamed on Russia. WIll we send our sons and daughters there to die .......or risk a nuclear exchange with our Elite's prodding of Putin?

Until we accept that our corporate media is not media.............we are going to be susceptible to making these kinds of mistakes.

I did reach out to Steve and offer to tone it down a bit. My information is intended to help you get to your own truth...............not my truth............. nor the Corporate media's so-called truth.

Have a great day. The sun is shining here.

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I move that we make all "covid is not real" and the umpteen "the vaccine will kill you" articles to the same thread that hosts the "earth is flat" topic?

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So every thread has to only have kosher Leftist Establishment lies and propaganda allowed to be posted?

What is it with Leftists and their fanatical obsession for "safe spaces"?

Are their feelings really so delicate that they just can't stand to see opinions and views they disagree with? It just causes too much psychological trauma to their precious feeble little brains?

Or is it just that they are so obsessed with absolute power and control that they cannot resist trying to silence their ideological opposition?

We know it's not because they are obsessed with "truth" and opposed to lies and misinformation. These are the same yahoos who think there are 70 genders, unborn children are "not human beings", and that the universe came into existence by random chance after a big explosion.

What is the deal with these people?

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The idea of creating a rule against "misinformation" totally eviscerates freedom of speech. The whole point of having freedom of speech is that we are allowed to disagree, and debate -- and especially to disagree with the "Establishment" and "powers that be".

I mean seriously....we must ban all speech that does not toe the line with what our overlords tell us is the "truth"? Only posts approved by Fauci and the CDC and the far Left commie "fact checkers" are allowed?? That is TOTALLY INSANE.

No one has a monopoly on truth...except God himself. We are all trying to find out what the truth is. And having freedom of speech and the ability to debate is a process that allows us to discover the truth, on a variety of issues.

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This is not a government site. Free speech only means the government cannot do anything to you for saying what ever you want.

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Thank you captain obvious. I was not aware that IPS was not a government site. Yes, these websites that do not believe in freedom of speech can censor all they want -- such as Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube choosing to blatantly censor conservatives and other anti-Establishment views.

That means IPS could also censor precious Marxist, Establishment opinions if they so wished.

But just to fill you in, Steve Williams posted a couple months ago that all ideological opinions were allowed to be posted here in the Water Cooler. The only rules for the Water Cooler are to stay on topic in a thread and not engage in personal attacks.

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I move that we make all "covid is not real" and the umpteen "the vaccine will kill you" articles to the same thread that hosts the "earth is flat" topic?

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So every thread has to only have kosher Leftist Establishment lies and propaganda allowed to be posted?

What is it with Leftists and their fanatical obsession for "safe spaces"?

Are their feelings really so delicate that they just can't stand to see opinions and views they disagree with? It just causes too much psychological trauma to their precious feeble little brains?

Or is it just that they are so obsessed with absolute power and control that they cannot resist trying to silence their ideological opposition?

We know it's not because they are obsessed with "truth" and opposed to lies and misinformation. These are the same yahoos who think there are 70 genders, unborn children are "not human beings", and that the universe came into existence by random chance after a big explosion.

What is the deal with these people?

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I would take your point to heart, except, you were going to lie to store owners who questioned your lack of a mask that you had medical reasons to do so because they cut down on your oxygen, etc....so miss me with the lecture on truth, lol.

Post what you want, i don't read you nor Werewolf 99% of the time, so it really doesn't bother me.
And when I do, I always come back to..."this is the guy who thinks the earth is flat", and shake my head, snicker a little, and move on.

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Oh no. That's not a lie at all. It is 100% TRUE that wearing a mask and breathing your own CO2 lowers your blood oxygen levels. That's a fact.

But please...continue to dream up false examples of where I've "lied", while you overlook and believe all the MASSIVE lies spoon fed to you by the far Left Establishment.