CNN’s @DrLeanaWen: “We are nowhere near” letting kids attend school without facemasks pic.twitter.com/PYldsXJp5B
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) September 23, 2021
packgrad said:
This lunatic thinks we're nowhere near unmasking children. Additionally she wants to vaccinate all children. Additionally she wants to test all students and teachers, that are vaccinated, everyday to stop the spread of the virus.
Democrats need to be removed from power. They are ****ing nuts.
Civilized said:packgrad said:
This lunatic thinks we're nowhere near unmasking children. Additionally she wants to vaccinate all children. Additionally she wants to test all students and teachers, that are vaccinated, everyday to stop the spread of the virus.
Democrats need to be removed from power. They are ****ing nuts.
What position of power is she in?
Right now, she is just a professor of health policy and commentator/influencer on CNN. I follow her on Twitter and use her posts to keep me in touch with what the lunatics are communicating to a wide audience of people. She is part of the problem and in my opinion, is doing psychological harm to people who listen to her. I rely more on Dr. Gandhi and others to provide me with a more rational approach to how we should be dealing with Covid.Civilized said:packgrad said:
This lunatic thinks we're nowhere near unmasking children. Additionally she wants to vaccinate all children. Additionally she wants to test all students and teachers, that are vaccinated, everyday to stop the spread of the virus.
Democrats need to be removed from power. They are ****ing nuts.
What position of power is she in?
And there are plenty more Marxist-indoctrinated lunatics like her working as principals, administrators, and teachers in the public schools. The state of North Carolina just had to pass a law to require parental consent for covid vaccines -- because in other states they are talking about students being vaccinated without parental consent.packgrad said:
This lunatic thinks we're nowhere near unmasking children. Additionally she wants to vaccinate all children. Additionally she wants to test all students and teachers, that are vaccinated, everyday to stop the spread of the virus.
Democrats need to be removed from power. They are ****ing nuts.
Hope this is true but seems like a difficult modeling problem, not least because there are all these different categories of immunity to deal with (vax, possibly with different degrees of waning depending on the vaccine; natural; hybrid; vax w/ booster).https://t.co/AIqQidXmhy
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) September 23, 2021
statefan91 said:
This seems to echo what you've been saying, immunity through vaccination + exposure is the most important thing leading to the pandemic becoming endemic and getting back to normalHope this is true but seems like a difficult modeling problem, not least because there are all these different categories of immunity to deal with (vax, possibly with different degrees of waning depending on the vaccine; natural; hybrid; vax w/ booster).https://t.co/AIqQidXmhy
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) September 23, 2021
statefan91 said:
This seems to echo what you've been saying, immunity through vaccination + exposure is the most important thing leading to the pandemic becoming endemic and getting back to normalHope this is true but seems like a difficult modeling problem, not least because there are all these different categories of immunity to deal with (vax, possibly with different degrees of waning depending on the vaccine; natural; hybrid; vax w/ booster).https://t.co/AIqQidXmhy
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) September 23, 2021
statefan91 said:
This seems to echo what you've been saying, immunity through vaccination + exposure is the most important thing leading to the pandemic becoming endemic and getting back to normalHope this is true but seems like a difficult modeling problem, not least because there are all these different categories of immunity to deal with (vax, possibly with different degrees of waning depending on the vaccine; natural; hybrid; vax w/ booster).https://t.co/AIqQidXmhy
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) September 23, 2021
People (actually stupid people) watch CNN; so, she has influential power...Civilized said:packgrad said:
This lunatic thinks we're nowhere near unmasking children. Additionally she wants to vaccinate all children. Additionally she wants to test all students and teachers, that are vaccinated, everyday to stop the spread of the virus.
Democrats need to be removed from power. They are ****ing nuts.
What position of power is she in?
Her backgrounds shows me that she is extremely smart; however, these are the type of smart people that can't think themselves out of a paper bag! They add little value to society!Daviewolf83 said:Right now, she is just a professor of health policy and commentator/influencer on CNN. I follow her on Twitter and use her posts to keep me in touch with what the lunatics are communicating to a wide audience of people. She is part of the problem and in my opinion, is doing psychological harm to people who listen to her. I rely more on Dr. Gandhi and others to provide me with a more rational approach to how we should be dealing with Covid.Civilized said:packgrad said:
This lunatic thinks we're nowhere near unmasking children. Additionally she wants to vaccinate all children. Additionally she wants to test all students and teachers, that are vaccinated, everyday to stop the spread of the virus.
Democrats need to be removed from power. They are ****ing nuts.
What position of power is she in?
Here's her bio:
"Dr. Leana Wen is an emergency physician, professor of health policy and management at George Washington University, and a nonresident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. She is also a contributing columnist for The Washington Post, a CNN medical analyst, and author of the critically-acclaimed book on patient advocacy, When Doctors Don't Listen: How to Avoid Misdiagnoses and Unnecessary Tests (St. Martin's Press, 2013) and a new memoir, Lifelines: A Doctor's Journey in the Fight for Public Health (Metropolitan Books, July 2021).
Previously, she served as Baltimore's Health Commissioner, where she led the nation's oldest continuously operating health department in the U.S. to fight the opioid epidemic, treat violence and racism as public health issues, and improve maternal and child health.
Dr. Wen obtained her medical degree from Washington University School of Medicine and studied health policy at the University of Oxford, where she was a Rhodes Scholar. She completed her residency training at Brigham & Women's Hospital & Massachusetts General Hospital, where she was a clinical fellow at Harvard Medical School.
A member of the Council on Foreign Relations, Dr. Wen has received recognition as one of Governing's Public Officials of the Year, Modern Healthcare's Top 50 Physician-Executives, World Economic Forum's Young Global Leaders, and TIME magazine's 100 Most Influential People.
Dr. Wen lives with her husband and their two young children in Baltimore."
WarrenPeace said:statefan91 said:
This seems to echo what you've been saying, immunity through vaccination + exposure is the most important thing leading to the pandemic becoming endemic and getting back to normalHope this is true but seems like a difficult modeling problem, not least because there are all these different categories of immunity to deal with (vax, possibly with different degrees of waning depending on the vaccine; natural; hybrid; vax w/ booster).https://t.co/AIqQidXmhy
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) September 23, 2021
I get the back and forth with tweets and ideas of how to end this, it's something to do, but y'all understand that the government is never going to let this end right? Not until they have complete control of everything, banks, education, energy, workforce.
Your life before Covid ( or the Biden administration) is not coming back.
I agree on a Winter wave. I am going to try to find some time to run through some numbers and project the size of the next wave. The model referenced in the tweet (and others I also saw tweeted yesterday) paints a picture that is a bit too positive. At least it does in my opinion. While immunity is causing the end of the Summer wave, I do expect there to be a Winter Wave. The media like to call the Winter Wave a holiday travel wave (bless their hearts), but it will begin well before the holiday travel season begins and will follow a similar course as last year's Winter wave. I also expect a return of the flu this season and it will overlap the Winter Covid wave.Wayland said:statefan91 said:
This seems to echo what you've been saying, immunity through vaccination + exposure is the most important thing leading to the pandemic becoming endemic and getting back to normalHope this is true but seems like a difficult modeling problem, not least because there are all these different categories of immunity to deal with (vax, possibly with different degrees of waning depending on the vaccine; natural; hybrid; vax w/ booster).https://t.co/AIqQidXmhy
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) September 23, 2021
I have been Super Sunshine Squad, but I don't get warm fuzzies about things just tapering off nationwide right into PEAK RESPIRATORY VIRUS season. That just doesn't make rational sense.
I would expect one more large winter wave unless we get a replacement virus (flu comes back or something).
statefan91 said:
Do you expect the NE winter wave to be driven by delta and the fact that they didn't have a late summer wave like the South did?
Absolutely, I do. The Northerners I saw on Twitter over the past few months who were "dancing on the graves" of people in the Southern states are in for a surprise. They avoided a large impact from Delta for a couple of reasons:statefan91 said:
Do you expect the NE winter wave to be driven by delta and the fact that they didn't have a late summer wave like the South did?
WRAL called it the Delta wave on their broadcasts yesterday and I just chuckled. They are some really "special" people. My wife says I should not call them stupid so much, but I have no other way to explain their complete incompetence. They made the comment on the six o'clock news last night that their "data trackers" had spent a few hours breaking down the numbers that show the "Delta" wave has peaked. I laughed and told my wife they could have just called me and I could provide them information in a few minutes.Wayland said:statefan91 said:
Do you expect the NE winter wave to be driven by delta and the fact that they didn't have a late summer wave like the South did?
I think it will be Delta. There just isn't another dominant variant out there creeping around that would have the time to get here by winter, IMO.
I have said this elsewhere, I don't like calling this the 'Delta Wave', it is more the Southeast US Regional 2021 Summer Wave of SARS-CoV-2 (dominant strain Delta).
The NE Spring Wave 2020, SE/West Summer Wave 2020, and the whole U.S. Winter Wave 20/21 were all original/wild-type COVID. We didn't break it down by variant because it was wild-type/mix. Spring 2021 was Alpha (primarily in the U.S. although other variants were around) and Summer 2021 has been primarily Delta.
But this isn't a 'Delta Wave' as much as it is a 'Summer Wave of SARS-CoV-2 (that happens to be Delta).
Calling it the Delta wave makes people think that once it is over that Delta goes away, but they have already forgotten we went through multiple wild-type waves in 2020.
It is nit-picky and gets into semantics and I am certainly guilty of being sloppy with language, but I do think it would set a better framework for future expectations if we agreed to refer to it as 'A COVID wave of the Delta Variant' instead of 'THE Delta Wave'. Or something like that, we can have a review to clean up the language, but we have a huge presentation problem.Daviewolf83 said:WRAL called it the Delta wave on their broadcasts yesterday and I just chuckled. They are some really "special" people. My wife says I should not call them stupid so much, but I have no other way to explain their complete incompetence. They made the comment on the six o'clock news last night that their "data trackers" had been a few hours breaking down the numbers that show the "Delta" wave has peaked. I laughed and told my wife they could have just called me and I could provide them information in a few minutes.Wayland said:statefan91 said:
Do you expect the NE winter wave to be driven by delta and the fact that they didn't have a late summer wave like the South did?
I think it will be Delta. There just isn't another dominant variant out there creeping around that would have the time to get here by winter, IMO.
I have said this elsewhere, I don't like calling this the 'Delta Wave', it is more the Southeast US Regional 2021 Summer Wave of SARS-CoV-2 (dominant strain Delta).
The NE Spring Wave 2020, SE/West Summer Wave 2020, and the whole U.S. Winter Wave 20/21 were all original/wild-type COVID. We didn't break it down by variant because it was wild-type/mix. Spring 2021 was Alpha (primarily in the U.S. although other variants were around) and Summer 2021 has been primarily Delta.
But this isn't a 'Delta Wave' as much as it is a 'Summer Wave of SARS-CoV-2 (that happens to be Delta).
Calling it the Delta wave makes people think that once it is over that Delta goes away, but they have already forgotten we went through multiple wild-type waves in 2020.
The power to abuse children, evidently. What a ghoul.Civilized said:packgrad said:
This lunatic thinks we're nowhere near unmasking children. Additionally she wants to vaccinate all children. Additionally she wants to test all students and teachers, that are vaccinated, everyday to stop the spread of the virus.
Democrats need to be removed from power. They are ****ing nuts.
What position of power is she in?
Leena Wen, who used to run Planned Parenthood btw so she's an expert on what's good for kids of course, is a cartoonish authoritarian.packgrad said:CNN’s @DrLeanaWen: “We are nowhere near” letting kids attend school without facemasks pic.twitter.com/PYldsXJp5B
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) September 23, 2021
This lunatic thinks we're nowhere near unmasking children. Additionally she wants to vaccinate all children. Additionally she wants to test all students and teachers, that are vaccinated, everyday to stop the spread of the virus.
Democrats need to be removed from power. They are ****ing nuts.
Let's see...Oldsouljer said:The power to abuse children, evidently. What a ghoul.Civilized said:packgrad said:
This lunatic thinks we're nowhere near unmasking children. Additionally she wants to vaccinate all children. Additionally she wants to test all students and teachers, that are vaccinated, everyday to stop the spread of the virus.
Democrats need to be removed from power. They are ****ing nuts.
What position of power is she in?
Wayland said:
NC Cases continue to decline.
And will likely continue to decline in the coming weeks, despite schools being back in and full football stadiums and all the other stuff.
Because seasonality is stronger than theater.
I was talking to someone a few weeks ago and they were excited to know they would be able to get a booster soon. The discussion I had with them was just after the Biden administration was promising "boosters for everyone." They are 62 and have NO underlying health conditions. Based on the latest guidance, it looks like they should not be getting a booster.Wayland said:
CDC ACIP Votes on Booster
#1 - 65 and Over/LTC - Yes - Unanimous
#2 - 50-64 - Underlying - Yes (13-2)
#3 - 18-49 - Underlying
#4 - 18-64 - Work related risk
Looks like the Muppet, Walensky, is overruling ACIP and putting #4 back in.Wayland said:
CDC ACIP Votes on Pfizer Booster
#1 - 65 and Over/LTC "Recommend" - Yes - Unanimous
#2 - 50-64 - Underlying -"Recommend" - Yes (13-2)
#3 - 18-49 - Underlying "Recommend balance individuals risk and benefit"- Yes (9-6)
#4 - 18-64 - Occupational/Institutional risk "Recommend balance individuals risk and benefit" - LOTS OF DEBATE - No (6-9)
Discussion to add a 5th vote. Due to time. Closing votes for now.
I think the 'balance' language is meant to protect against mandates for boosters.
Packchem91 said:
Found a place for all the "I'll never wear a mask" folks! West Yellowstone, MT. Very blue collar town on the border of the park, where its winter time 50% of the year.
No mask requirements at all that I can tell here. Have not seen them in any store, any restaurant, anywhere. No signs either.
Life seems normal here.
Jackson has an ordinance in place, and it was prevalent, except in the camera store we went into where the owner, who looked like a postcard of "Wyoming guy" had no mask.Wayland said:Packchem91 said:
Found a place for all the "I'll never wear a mask" folks! West Yellowstone, MT. Very blue collar town on the border of the park, where its winter time 50% of the year.
No mask requirements at all that I can tell here. Have not seen them in any store, any restaurant, anywhere. No signs either.
Life seems normal here.
Interesting juxtaposition from a year ago. While I didn't go into any restaurants last October (in West Yellowstone), I did see a handful of masks in stores and around town. Not many, but noticeable.
Interestingly, the one place all trip where we actually did get a comment from a restaurant last fall was in Cooke City, MT (just outside the NE gate to the park past Lamar Valley). My son had forgotten his mask in the car and they wouldn't let him go 10 ft from the door to the table without it... which really stood out after a few days in Nebraska, South Dakota, and Wyoming where no one cared.
Biopharma industry analyst Geoff Porges at Leerink says CDC’s reversal of advisers’ booster recommendation signals the process is “even more politicized in the current administration than it was in the prior one,” & foresees resignations from ACIP as a result: pic.twitter.com/UIG0OLdxQt
— Meg Tirrell (@megtirrell) September 24, 2021
