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Would have been fascinating to see infection and death curves for the Spanish flu.

With no vaccine, took that one 15 to 18 months to burn itself out as I recall.

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Daviewolf83 said:

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2. NC announced today they are changing their vaccine doses distribution guidelines. Due to the complaints they have received from a lot of counties about not having supply or having supply taken from them, NC will now allocated vaccine doses based on the population of each county. This should help many of the rural counties that were seeing their supplies allocated to counties with mass vaccination sites.

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PackPA2015 said:

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I have not heard any rumblings of that in our county. Most are in support of 5 days of in person learning, just request it be done as safely as possible.

I think the risk will be significantly low with most staff vaccinated, children being low risk already, AND out of RSV/influenza seasons.

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packgrad said:

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PackPA2015 said:

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I have not heard any rumblings of that in our county. Most are in support of 5 days of in person learning, just request it be done as safely as possible.

I think the risk will be significantly low with most staff vaccinated, children being low risk already, AND out of RSV/influenza seasons.

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My wife is a teacher as well and has been operating under the same schedule. The "as safely as possible" has wide ranging expectations that I find are quite unreasonable in many instances. One of those being, like Davie mentioned, wanting students vaccinated. I've heard the "as safely as possible" mantra many times and to me it's begun to ring quite hollow. I'm finding more teachers are enjoying their time away from school and are using this as a crutch, in my limited situation.

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PackPA2015 said:

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packgrad said:

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PackPA2015 said:

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I have not heard any rumblings of that in our county. Most are in support of 5 days of in person learning, just request it be done as safely as possible.

I think the risk will be significantly low with most staff vaccinated, children being low risk already, AND out of RSV/influenza seasons.

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My wife is a teacher as well and has been operating under the same schedule. The "as safely as possible" has wide ranging expectations that I find are quite unreasonable in many instances. One of those being, like Davie mentioned, wanting students vaccinated. I've heard the "as safely as possible" mantra many times and to me it's begun to ring quite hollow. I'm finding more teachers are enjoying their time away from school and are using this as a crutch, in my limited situation.

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Of course, with anything, it can be abused. There are very specific situations that we worry about - teachers with cancer on chemo, folks with autoimmune diseases on immunosuppressants, etc. I think the majority are not trying to abuse the system. I think if we focus on vaccinating staff, continue social distancing and mask wearing practices for some amount of time, the risk is acceptable for most.

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PackPA2015 said:

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I am going to disagree with that. I think it is not likely to occur 100% of the time at 100% of locations. However, there are creative ways to accomplish this at most points during the day with most activities. The more you limit the physical interaction, the less the risk is.

Teachers already use small group learning styles in a variety of ways to break up the monotony of listening to lecture-style teaching. It would be a little bit of this on a larger scale.

I have spoken with many, many of our local teachers and they all say how the kids are battling this adversity much easier than adults. I have added this study that was performed more to battle seasonal flu, but practices can still apply to our situation. Will it take creativity and hard work? Yes, but our teachers and staff can do it. They have shown so much courage and adaptability already.

I just don't think releasing the kids back to 5 days per week without some attempt at social distancing is likely not the best idea.

Social Distancing in Schools Study

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Daviewolf83 said:

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I saw some speculation several months ago that NY was undercounting deaths from LTC facilities. At the time, it was reported that they were not counting a death as a nursing home death if the nursing home patient did not die in the nursing home. The NY Times has followed up on this and says the undercounting could be as much as 50% higher than what Governor Cuomo has been saying.

You can read the full story from the NY Times at the following link:

NY Severely Undercounted Virus Deaths in Nursing Homes, Report Says

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Cuomo has been a disastrous leader during COVID. His combativeness against Feds and judgement of other States looks ridiculous at this point. The fact that he put out a book on leadership during a pandemic that is still going on is reason enough he should be recalled (is that a thing in NY?).

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PackPA2015 said:

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But, not less deadly to the adults who will be at risk, because of the children. Now, vaccinations should in theory help, but to me any chance you can get to lower risk is beneficial. I think we may have to agree to disagree on this and that is okay.

Trinity Christian is the school.

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AlleyPack said:

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A classroom that is 20' x 30' can only seat (approximately) 13 students when they are six feet apart.

So unless/until the governor changes his rules about middle schools and high schools (and the distance that must be maintained in classrooms), school simply can't go back full-time.

This isn't a teacher/county decision, it's a "governor's rules" type of decision.
Here in N.C., at least.

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If the new COVID-19 economic relief bill passes with $82 billion for schools, they better damn well open since they typically only spend about $40 billion a year sending to states for schools

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