I have Yankee family that are virus cheerleaders and made subtle comments over the summer. They will be down for a week over Christmas. Look forward to making not so subtle comments. They're also followers of the Covid Messiah, and think challenging His word is anti science.Daviewolf83 said:In Boston for Wake's game against BC, everyone had to submit proof of vaccination or a negative Covid test (within last 72 hours, for whatever that is worth) to be admitted. This was for a game played "outdoors" and with 15 to 20 mile an hour winds. The temperature on this day hit a high of 37 degrees. The Covid virus did not stand a chance in those conditions, but we were all vaccinated. What a absolutely ridiculous policy and one that continues to show a lack of understanding by health officials and politicians on how to encourage activities that are safe.packgrad said:
Just a reminder of how wrong the Covid Messiah was. How is he still employed?Data Proves Fauci Was Wrong About COVID Spreading At College Gameshttps://t.co/Qd2LkboOev
— OutKick (@Outkick) December 10, 2021
I will continue to say it - Outside is good for limiting the spread of a respiratory virus. We should all look for activities to do outside and public health should find ways to encourage and not prevent and chastise people for outside activities.
The Southern states peaked in the Summer due to the fact that people went inside to cool off. Think of the Summer as Winter when it comes to respiratory viruses in the South. In the North, Winter is Winter and it is why you are now seeing the Northern states peaking with cases and hospitalizations. The South had their big Delta wave in the Summer and he North is having their Delta wave now. All of those people in the media and social media look pretty stupid now, with their dunking on the South during the Summer wave.
NinerNotice: Through its on-campus sequencing lab, UNC Charlotte has identified the presence of the omicron variant of COVID-19 in the testing sample of a student who traveled out of state during the Thanksgiving break and has subsequently recovered. More: https://t.co/BuGYKU5AL7 pic.twitter.com/zerLwZdCKb
— UNC Charlotte Emergency Management (@NinerAlerts) December 10, 2021
#COVID19 UPDATE: A total of 104,831 tests were conducted in the last 24hrs, with 17,154 new cases, representing a 16.4% positivity rate. A further 36 #COVID19 related deaths have been reported, bringing total fatalities to 90,116 to date. See more here: https://t.co/xRDjCZU7Os pic.twitter.com/u0JqcCcHB0
— NICD (@nicd_sa) December 11, 2021
I appreciate your efforts here. With family in medicine, to the contrary, I hear all too often about Big Pharma/Medicine's attempt to shut down Ivermectin and Hydroxy with outrageous claims made of their dangers, etc. It doesn't take much deductive reasoning to connect the dots. At an absolute minimum the intent is to squelch demonstration of successful treatment with these very inexpensive medicines.Mormad said:
There are, to date, 3 things that make a difference in the prevention or treatment of moderate to severe covid: O2, steroids, and vaccines. MAbs are helpful in some. Oral anti Virals seem promising, but haven't been tested on a mass scale, and can you state what's in them? Can you describe their mechanism of action? Can you trust them? Ivermectin is the love child of so many, and I've held out hope for it for the reasons i described earlier, but thus far there's limited evidence it improves outcomes or prevents disease. It's not hospitals that kill patients. It's the disease. Is it that difficult to understand that when patients get so sick from a respiratory virus that eats holes in your lungs and leads to multisystem organ failure that they need intubation that their mortality will be extremely high? Read about the mortality of multisystem organ failure of any cause. And Remdes doesn't cause renal failure. Covid does. You ever sat in a hospital room with a Covid pt on a 100% non-rebreather mask working their ass off to breathe, gasping for air, begging for anything that'll help, won't even say goodbye to their loved ones on the phone because they were too miserable and short of breath to do so? It's gut wrenching. I know some think vaccines are the devil, and you're certainly entitled, but Davie's graphs tell a different story.
I'm here to share, and yep it's an extremely difficult topic
The medical industry does not make profit off of healthy people, and by genuinely curing people. They make profit off of sick people, and especially those who they can keep perpetually sick, but feed them a continuous stream of costly faux "treatments" (eg, pills) that suppress symptoms and otherwise sort of appear to be "treating" the disease, but which are in reality doing nothing to help the patient and often make things much worse.Werewolf said:
I know of a case nearby, a friend of friend, Ivermectin was snuck into hospital and immediately improved to nearly 100%. A doctor learned of this, reported to admin, swooped in and stopped it. the patient immediately declined but was able to be discharged with legal help.....resuming Ivermectin......immediately completed the healing. Guessing the hospital was looking for a more expensive option for healing....
I'm aware of another similar case about 60 miles north of me, Hattiesburg, MS, making National News in a similar setting..........four or five months back.
Amen brother.......as a free society I'll add.Mormad said:
I think we all can agree that it'll be great when this topic can finally be laid to rest in the IPS retirement home.
I wish you all peace, happiness, and health until that time.
Many are asking for an update on our North Dakota masking study. Two K-12 public school districts in the same county: Cass, ND, both w/around 12,000 students
— Tracy Høeg, MD, PhD (@TracyBethHoeg) December 12, 2021
Active school cases in 2021 ⬇️
FPS (🔵)= mask mandate
WF (🟡)= masks optional
FPS slightly higher staff vax rate
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That the Omicron variant is turning out to be considerably more benign than the original pathogen isn't terribly surprising, thanks to antigenic shift, it was actually quite predictable.Daviewolf83 said:
Random thoughts on a Sunday afternoon:
Reports out of South Africa indicate the Omicron variant is much less severe than the Delta variant. There are no reports of hospitals being stressed by capacity and people who become infected report much milder symptoms. It also appears the Omicron variant does a much better job of evading antibodies from past infection and antibodies from the vaccines. What also seems evident is the T and B-Cells are doing a good job of protecting people who do become infected and these are not as affected by a decay in antibodies. As antibodies decay, the T and B Cells remain in our bodies and continue to protect us.
If Omicron is less severe than Delta and it is likely more people will be infected by Omicron than Delta, why is this a bad thing? We should want a less severe version of Covid-19 to be the most prevalent variant and we should want it to displace the more severe variants, such as delta. With Omicron, the focus HAS to shift from case counts to hospitalizations. With a higher incidence of transmission, but lower level of severity, case counts are meaningless.
Also, many countries are doing a horrible job of learning to live with an endemic virus. Politicians and media need to shift from constant doom and gloom and start to prepare people with life with Covid. Life with Covid does not mean constant mask mandates. It does not mean we continue to require school children to wear masks. it does not require a constant focus on cases. It does mean we relay on vaccinations and antiviral therapeutics to live with the virus.
Addendum
— Prof. Freedom (@prof_freedom) December 13, 2021
Europe vs. Sweden as a side-by-side comparison:
June 2020 vs. December 2021
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Exactly; their fear.bgr3 said:
How dare they have a control group so you can actually measure effects!
All Omicron cases for which there is available information on severity were either asymptomatic or mild (EU report). There have been no Omicron-related deaths reported. https://t.co/gaXW9uWiIB
— Marty Makary MD, MPH (@MartyMakary) December 13, 2021
Vaccines are here to uncouple case rates from hospitalizations/death.
— Alicia Smith (@Alicia_Smith19) December 13, 2021
If you are still focusing on case rates as a barometer as to whether restrictions should be imposed, you are communicating that you don’t trust the vaccine and are arguing for a perpetual state of emergency. https://t.co/7DX1fzefjE
Which begs the question I posed a few pages ago, why are people getting tested at this point if they have no symptoms? For me it goes back to the point made in your follow up post, there is still a push to use number of cases as a policy driver, instead of using actual impact, which means that unnecessary testing is being done. NPIs were supposed to slow the spread to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed. Vaccines were supposed to lessen the chance of severe symptoms or death. None of it was ever going to make covid and variants disappear. I know early on we were stuck on the idea that asymptomatic cases were a big driver of spread, has any actual information verified that in the last year?Daviewolf83 said:
Related to my post yesterday:All Omicron cases for which there is available information on severity were either asymptomatic or mild (EU report). There have been no Omicron-related deaths reported. https://t.co/gaXW9uWiIB
— Marty Makary MD, MPH (@MartyMakary) December 13, 2021
Seems the best option is
— David Frum (@davidfrum) December 12, 2021
1) Keep encouraging vaccines and boosters;
2) Impose vaccine mandates where it can be done;
3) Otherwise return to normal as fully as we can, especially the schools; and
4) Let hospitals quietly triage emergency care to serve the unvaccinated last
LOL. The party of "Love, not Hate"… "Loving Kindness"… and "Coexist"…packgrad said:
Staff writer at the Atlantic thinks hospitals should put the unvaccinated at the back of the line for triage. It's sad how the left is so open about wishing death on those who do not take a shot.Seems the best option is
— David Frum (@davidfrum) December 12, 2021
1) Keep encouraging vaccines and boosters;
2) Impose vaccine mandates where it can be done;
3) Otherwise return to normal as fully as we can, especially the schools; and
4) Let hospitals quietly triage emergency care to serve the unvaccinated last
