What a coincidence, me too! Of course, I always get late summer allergies in August, so there's that.WarrenPeace said:caryking said:
Who cares anymore?
It's crazy man. Neighborhood kid has it now. She has to stay out of school for 2 weeks. Her symptoms are a runny nose.
*** are we doing???
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Cases data doesn't look awful today.
In fact barring an incredible data backlog report tomorrow, both Wake and Meck will have a net decrease in reported cases this week over last week.
The county that is leading the INCREASE raw cases in week over week reporting (even without Friday's numbers) is Durham (thanks Duke!!).
In fact barring an incredible data backlog report tomorrow, both Wake and Meck will have a net decrease in reported cases this week over last week.
The county that is leading the INCREASE raw cases in week over week reporting (even without Friday's numbers) is Durham (thanks Duke!!).
Nice depiction in @Forbes showing COVID in schools vs. from schools vs in the community as observed in Wood, Co, WI. As senior author of this study, it was tempting for me to believe this pattern was contingent on masking kids, but for many reasons I have come to doubt this 🧵: pic.twitter.com/ZpeyM8d4Ue
— Tracy Høeg, MD, PhD (@TracyBethHoeg) September 2, 2021
Today is also 'Wastewater' data day at NC DHHS.
Will be interesting to see how this fills in over the coming weeks, but interesting to see where some of the waste water peaks may be forming.
Will be interesting to see how this fills in over the coming weeks, but interesting to see where some of the waste water peaks may be forming.
And yet the freaks in charge of countless jurisdictions still force kids to wear masks. It is tantamount to child abuse. Anyone who thinks cloth and paper masks do anything to stop or reduce the spread of Covid-19 at this point, are either fools or just evil.Wayland said:Nice depiction in @Forbes showing COVID in schools vs. from schools vs in the community as observed in Wood, Co, WI. As senior author of this study, it was tempting for me to believe this pattern was contingent on masking kids, but for many reasons I have come to doubt this 🧵: pic.twitter.com/ZpeyM8d4Ue
— Tracy Høeg, MD, PhD (@TracyBethHoeg) September 2, 2021
Daviewolf83 said:
I thought everyone would be interested in what is happening in other countries. Had a call this morning with a co-worker that lives in Germany. She mention the following:
1. Most indoor venues, including restaurants, bars, concert halls, etc. require either proof of vaccination or a negative Covid test in the last 24 hours (not 48 or 72 like we are seeing in the US).
2. To get a Covid test, there are easily accessible locations throughout the cities where you can get a Covid test and the results in less than 30 minutes. The cost of the test is 20 euros and it is not covered by the government or insurance - it must be paid out-of-pocket.
The thinking behind the Covid test requirement is it will drive more people to get the vaccine, since it will help them avoid the 20 euro cost every time they want to go to an indoor establishment. You are able to eat and do other things outside without the vaccination/Covid negative requirement, so this is what a lot of people are doing.
Charging for Covid tests is also starting to happen in the US. For example, unvaccinated students at Meredith College are required to be regularly Covid tested to attend classes this semester and they are being billed for the cost of the tests. I have heard some businesses will also be charging their employees who are unvaccinated for the cost of the Covid tests.
Still ****ing trash
packgrad said:UGA plans to be completely back to normal this fall for home football games, with capacity crowds of 92,746. There will be no masks or social-distancing requirements, and Georgia will not be asking for proof of vaccination to enter the grounds. https://t.co/ksviFV0WFy
— Atlanta Journal-Constitution (@ajc) August 24, 2021
As it should be. Rest of you Covid ******* should be ashamed
Loose observations from last night.Jtbridges317 said:packgrad said:UGA plans to be completely back to normal this fall for home football games, with capacity crowds of 92,746. There will be no masks or social-distancing requirements, and Georgia will not be asking for proof of vaccination to enter the grounds. https://t.co/ksviFV0WFy
— Atlanta Journal-Constitution (@ajc) August 24, 2021
As it should be. Rest of you Covid ******* should be ashamed
Solid 25%-30% mask compliance in indoor restrooms at the beginning of the game... likely closer to 5% by the end of the game.
The bathroom mask requirement was a good laugh. Saw very few observing it.
The current generation is a sad shadow of great Americans past. Poliovirus prior to the Salk vaccine, now THAT was something to be scared of. Americans back then still packed the stadiums. Having worked with some of the most hazardous substances on the planet, there's stuff I'm scared spitless of. The communist flu isn't one of them.
I've talked with several friends over the last few days. Each one shared with me a person that has dies from Covid, even after being fully vaxed. I'm not hear to debate the numbers with anybody; however, people I'm talking to have all been vaxed.
People are saying: I've done my part and people are still dying. What do I do next? They all say: Therapeutics!!!
This country has to turn the table on the conversation...
People are saying: I've done my part and people are still dying. What do I do next? They all say: Therapeutics!!!
This country has to turn the table on the conversation...
"Let's keep politics out of it..." -caryking said:
I've talked with several friends over the last few days. Each one shared with me a person that has dies from Covid, even after being fully vaxed. I'm not hear to debate the numbers with anybody; however, people I'm talking to have all been vaxed.
People are saying: I've done my part and people are still dying. What do I do next? They all say: Therapeutics!!!
This country has to turn the table on the conversation...
What a damn joke. It was and will always be about politics. That's the game plan. Fear and preying on the vulnerable.
Big Bad Wolf. OG...2002
"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
- Thomas Jefferson
"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
- Thomas Jefferson
I didn't even think it was that high. I saw a few older folks wearing them, and that was it. (this was over near the Murphy field house)Wayland said:Loose observations from last night.Jtbridges317 said:packgrad said:UGA plans to be completely back to normal this fall for home football games, with capacity crowds of 92,746. There will be no masks or social-distancing requirements, and Georgia will not be asking for proof of vaccination to enter the grounds. https://t.co/ksviFV0WFy
— Atlanta Journal-Constitution (@ajc) August 24, 2021
As it should be. Rest of you Covid ******* should be ashamed
Solid 25%-30% mask compliance in indoor restrooms at the beginning of the game... likely closer to 5% by the end of the game.
I didn't even carry one into the stadium with me... or the Embassy Suites in Cary last night, nor eating breakfast in the lobby this morning.
And I was the rule, not the exception.
WRAL morning tv news report on our game last night while getting dressed: "52,000 mostly maskless fans pack Carter-Finley last night"... not even sure if they even bothered to report the score.
And I was the rule, not the exception.
WRAL morning tv news report on our game last night while getting dressed: "52,000 mostly maskless fans pack Carter-Finley last night"... not even sure if they even bothered to report the score.
I was sitting just below where the news crews were doing their pregame live shots, and the WRAL chick (very very nice), was not wearing a mask either.TheStorm said:
WRAL morning tv news report on our game last night while getting dressed: "52,000 mostly maskless fans pack Carter-Finley last night"... not even sure if they even bothered to report the score.
That place can go to hell in a handbasket. They no longer pretend to not be a MSM propaganda machine. The **** they spew if further left than the clowns our lefty friends follow. All you have to do is wait for a "suspect" to be wanted.... if they don't say he's a right wing white... they won't disclose the race.TheStorm said:
I didn't even carry one into the stadium with me... or the Embassy Suites in Cary last night, nor eating breakfast in the lobby this morning.
And I was the rule, not the exception.
WRAL morning tv news report on our game last night while getting dressed: "52,000 mostly maskless fans pack Carter-Finley last night"... not even sure if they even bothered to report the score.
As far as the masking and BS goes.... wear one or don't. As far as the vaccine goes. Get it or don't. I'll ask this... if the vaccine works then why do we need to "mask up?" If the masks work then why do we need the vaccine?
You lefties went all in too early. Now with your new "Mu Variant" you are running out of excuses to steal another election.
Good luck. I hope each and every one of you rue the day you decided that a "con man" was not the best answer.
Big Bad Wolf. OG...2002
"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
- Thomas Jefferson
"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
- Thomas Jefferson
caryking said:
I've talked with several friends over the last few days. Each one shared with me a person that has dies from Covid, even after being fully vaxed. I'm not hear to debate the numbers with anybody; however, people I'm talking to have all been vaxed.
People are saying: I've done my part and people are still dying. What do I do next? They all say: Therapeutics!!!
This country has to turn the table on the conversation...
In conversations with coworkers, all the people I hear of testing positive recently were vaxxed. Something seems rotten with the "data" alleging that it's "overwhelmingly unvaxxed" now getting sick.
I think this "vaccine" weakens your immune system. And by design.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
I was looking over random data things and noticed that on the testing block from Wednesday of this week over 1% of the entire population of Wake County was tested in a single day.
Some moderate improvements in Charlotte / Mecklenburg:
Finally some improvement in COVID data locally. Daily case counts are decreasing slightly, and % of patients testing positive decreasing too. But deaths are up, as are hospitalizations. Again, the vast majority of those are unvaccinated. https://t.co/GhAe21FY5e pic.twitter.com/DGWFAEJeXs
— Katie Peralta Soloff (@katieperalta) September 3, 2021
You have to keep up the lefty narrative.... "My body. My choice..." unless it doesn't fit the narrative of the left.Wayland said:
I was looking over random data things and noticed that on the testing block from Wednesday of this week over 1% of the entire population of Wake County was tested in a single day.
MINDLESS SHEEP.
And I don't care if you take it as an insult. That is exactly what the left is. Nothing but mindless, following the MSM sheep. Not a single one of you have the kahunas to even debate, discredit or even have a conversation about your **** show party.
That's OK... it's coming.
Big Bad Wolf. OG...2002
"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
- Thomas Jefferson
"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
- Thomas Jefferson
I'd imagine if we had this kind of nuanced science in U.S. public health instead of politicians pushing the panic button blindly, we would have a lot more trust. (Especially in the wake of senior FDA officials resigning over political pressure AHEAD of science)
Clear analysis and risk assessments.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/jcvi-statement-september-2021-covid-19-vaccination-of-children-aged-12-to-15-years/jcvi-statement-on-covid-19-vaccination-of-children-aged-12-to-15-years-3-september-2021
Looking at the table data.. I don't know how you could reasonably recommend a second dose (for pre-teens). There just doesn't appear to be a net benefit. Maybe reading something wrong, but there is such a negligible benefit to a second dose...
Totally not anti-vax (I am vaxxed), but I would like explained to me that if the vast majority of the benefit is in the first dose. And although the risks are small (both from disease and vaccine), why are we undertaking (in the U.S.) the medical recommendation of a second dose of a vaccine that carries more risk than the harm it prevents in these kids?
Still let's go ahead with the 1st dose on 12-15 year olds in US.
Here is the tradeoff for a second dose if we 2 dose EVERY 12-15 y/o in the US.
We prevent 2.7 pediatric ICU hospitalizations/200 MISC but cause myocarditis in 200-580 kids?
Which even this should probably have a secondary gender based risk assessment.
Clear analysis and risk assessments.
The Joint Committee on Vaccination & Immunisation (JCVI), advising the UK on immunisation, has just updated its covid19 vaccine recommendations as follows
— Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois) September 3, 2021
- Healthy children up to 15: no vaccine
- Healthy teens 16/17: 1 dose of Pfizer BNT162b2 vaccine
1/https://t.co/MralQHpGvj
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/jcvi-statement-september-2021-covid-19-vaccination-of-children-aged-12-to-15-years/jcvi-statement-on-covid-19-vaccination-of-children-aged-12-to-15-years-3-september-2021
Looking at the table data.. I don't know how you could reasonably recommend a second dose (for pre-teens). There just doesn't appear to be a net benefit. Maybe reading something wrong, but there is such a negligible benefit to a second dose...
Totally not anti-vax (I am vaxxed), but I would like explained to me that if the vast majority of the benefit is in the first dose. And although the risks are small (both from disease and vaccine), why are we undertaking (in the U.S.) the medical recommendation of a second dose of a vaccine that carries more risk than the harm it prevents in these kids?
Still let's go ahead with the 1st dose on 12-15 year olds in US.
Here is the tradeoff for a second dose if we 2 dose EVERY 12-15 y/o in the US.
We prevent 2.7 pediatric ICU hospitalizations/200 MISC but cause myocarditis in 200-580 kids?
Which even this should probably have a secondary gender based risk assessment.
It's ALL about the election in 2022. Must keep the sheep corralled so the mail in voting takes place. Look at the "all of a sudden surge" for Gavin Newsom in California... he was getting trounced. Now he's going to stay in office by a HUGE number.
Wonder how that happened?
Wonder how that happened?
Big Bad Wolf. OG...2002
"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
- Thomas Jefferson
"The Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
- Thomas Jefferson
You lower that risk to almost zero if you space out the doses to 6-12 weeks. That is what I recommend for my younger patients to do if they decide to be vaccinated.
My aunt just died tonight of Covid. She had been in the hospital since Sunday afternoon. She was unvaccinated. Sad times.
TraCha4 said:
My aunt just died tonight of Covid. She had been in the hospital since Sunday afternoon. She was unvaccinated. Sad times.
So sorry for your loss. Your family will be on my thoughts and prayers.
Dang, man. So sorry.
Despite what the CDC have said, more studies showing people who are vaccinated shed less virus and are infectious for shorter period of time than an unvaccinated person.
A study out of the University of Illinois shows vaccinated individuals with a “breakthrough” infection are LESS likely to shed infectious virus at a given viral load, shed for a SHORTER period of time compared to unvaccinated individuals, AND report fewer days of symptoms.🧵
— Chise 🧬🧫🦠💉 (@sailorrooscout) September 3, 2021
That makes more sense from my lay person point of view.
Just a guy on the sunshine squad.
Small study showed that 36% of unvaxxed infected failed to seroconvert, correlation mostly with mild dz and high Ct values (low viral loads). Along with the evidence that i provided that showed a paradoxical lack of immunity after severe dz in some, this further suggests the importance of vaxxes in developing (potentially more) consistent immunity. Weird dz: we also know that exposure without infection can create some immunity, and if the exposed is vaxxed it can produce a memory B and T cell response that is like a booster despite the fact the exposure doesn't lead to infection.
Study from Britain of 43,000 infected participants late March to late May: delta was 2.26x more likely to cause hospitalization than alpha within 2 wks of a positive test when controlled for other risk factors. Only 2% of the hospitalized were fully vaxxed, 74% unvaxxed, 24% partially vaxxed.
I have 2 vaxxed Wolfpack friends with it right now. Both had very mild symptoms for 3 days, and not much spread to prolonged contacts (wives, kids and friends), lending some anecdotal credence to Davie's tweet.
Study from Britain of 43,000 infected participants late March to late May: delta was 2.26x more likely to cause hospitalization than alpha within 2 wks of a positive test when controlled for other risk factors. Only 2% of the hospitalized were fully vaxxed, 74% unvaxxed, 24% partially vaxxed.
I have 2 vaxxed Wolfpack friends with it right now. Both had very mild symptoms for 3 days, and not much spread to prolonged contacts (wives, kids and friends), lending some anecdotal credence to Davie's tweet.
Just got word that a guy I've known nearly 20 years passed away from covid. He was 37 years old, healthy, married with 2 kids. Covid sucks!
College football will end the fear mongering about Covid. Well, it won't end it. It's become people's entire identity. But it will end it for rational people. People can get on with their lives.
Surgical masks reduce COVID-19 spread, large-scale study shows | News Center | Stanford Medicine
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html
RCT from Stanford and Yale that suggests surgical masks can lower the risk of symptomatic covid infection at the community level. 350000 participants, pretty cool study design. This is why i say most of the stuff we argue about is likely somewhere in the middle.
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html
RCT from Stanford and Yale that suggests surgical masks can lower the risk of symptomatic covid infection at the community level. 350000 participants, pretty cool study design. This is why i say most of the stuff we argue about is likely somewhere in the middle.
RunsWithWolves26 said:
Just got word that a guy I've known nearly 20 years passed away from covid. He was 37 years old, healthy, married with 2 kids. Covid sucks!
Sorry, bud. It does suck.
Mormad said:
Surgical masks reduce COVID-19 spread, large-scale study shows | News Center | Stanford Medicine
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html
RCT from Stanford and Yale that suggests surgical masks can lower the risk of symptomatic covid infection at the community level. 350000 participants, pretty cool study design. This is why i say most of the stuff we argue about is likely somewhere in the middle.
Whole lot of confounding variable issues in the study. Nonetheless I appreciate the effort.
Even with all the confounding issues, they could only find a negligible impact to adults older than 50.
And the 'grand daddy' of cloth masks were found to have no impact.
So let's continue to have further targetted studies and stop pretending that cloth masks on kids in schools do a damn thing.
I am glad an RCT was run, and I hope they try and narrow down things further in specific targetted groups.
But time to stop mask mandates, even these people who wanted so bad masks to be effective couldn't even move the tiniest needle with cloth masks.
Moreover, I'm less likely to take seriously, a study whose authors were encouraged to pursue this by a WHO Chief Scientist and funded by an obscure charity in Oakland California managed by a guy with a UC Berkeley degree.
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