Elliott Avent replacement name rumors thread

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JCooke93
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Lol
Mr. O
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BSR2016 said:

Well there ya go, Hart it is


Yes, I can't see Boo rocking the boat or coming up with a creative hire.
Alex Gee
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Staff
I'm off the cesspool of what was Twitter, but Ethan sent over some chatter of Hart bring on Sogard in some capacity (have to think pitching coach) and that would be a huge move.
JCooke93
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Yes it would be
BSR2016
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To be fair Will Wade could've capsized the boat
CLTWolf
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Mr. O said:

BSR2016 said:

Well there ya go, Hart it is


Yes, I can't see Boo rocking the boat or coming up with a creative hire.

Who would be a creative hire?
pack2010
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not idea who this is, but i am assuming this is the "chatter". Sogard as pitching coach/AHC would be a homerun

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pack2010 said:

not idea who this is legit, but i am assuming this is the "chatter". Sogard as pitching coach/AHC would be a homerun




Seems legit. Kendall rogers follows him
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GrayWolf
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Alex Sogard is Head coach at Wright State, he was a pitcher at Oregon State from 2006-2007, then transferred to NC State and pitched from 2008-1010. He played for Coach Avent. His Wright State teams have been good under him especially in their conference….

He would be a great hire in my mind as a pitching coach…. If you decide to move on from Coach Chrysler….
I have only seen tweets tonight mentioning him, have no other knowledge.
JCooke93
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If true would be very good hire
M_A
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Hart promoted with Sogard backfilling his role as First Lieutenant sounds pretty close to ideal to me

This isnt basketball or football. Give these guys a fair shot, if it doesnt work out it doesnt work out. But we dont lose out on much trying this imo
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BigLefty24 said:

I'd take Godwin over Hart all day. Not even a close choice for me.

Godwin is a great guy. State fans would love him once they were able to disassociate him with ECU.


I live in Greenville and hell no, dude is very mediocre in the NIL world now and is a head case
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Ltsheets
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I for one, hope we keep Hart and bring on Sogard as the pitching coach. A friend of mine and previous player didn't have much nice to say about Chrysler, so I'd love to see that change.
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CLTWolf said:

3rdGenPacker said:

NC State has had a very successful program for the last 20 years. Hart is a HUGE reason for that. He pretty much runs things day to day. There's no reason not to at least let him try and see if he can handle the other parts of the program now.

If it doesn't work, there are going to be lots of great options available. That's no guarantee, though. South Carolina probably wishes they'd kept Holbrook at this point.




South Carolina Gamecocks (Southeastern Conference) (20132017)
2013 South Carolina 4320 1712 2nd (East) NCAA Super Regional
2014 South Carolina 4418 1812 2nd (East) NCAA Regional
2015 South Carolina 3225 1317 5th (East)
2016 South Carolina 4618 209 1st (East) NCAA Super Regional
2017 South Carolina 3525 1317 5th (East)

Chad is a great dude and a very good teacher of ball. I learned a lot from him working unc camps back in the day.



Hart took over 'crootin in 2010 (IIRC) and started bringing in dudes year in and year out pretty much immediately.

This is exactly what I was talking about. SC moved Holbrook into lead role and they won 40+ games 3 out of his 5 years, went to the NCAA 3 out of his 5 years and won 30+ games in the other two years. They fired him after that 2017 season and have been at or below.500 four times in the 9 years since. And only over .500 in SEC play 3 times in those 9 years.

Sometimes the guy that helped build it is a better option than the shiny new toy.
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3rdGenPacker said:

CLTWolf said:

3rdGenPacker said:

NC State has had a very successful program for the last 20 years. Hart is a HUGE reason for that. He pretty much runs things day to day. There's no reason not to at least let him try and see if he can handle the other parts of the program now.

If it doesn't work, there are going to be lots of great options available. That's no guarantee, though. South Carolina probably wishes they'd kept Holbrook at this point.




South Carolina Gamecocks (Southeastern Conference) (20132017)
2013 South Carolina 4320 1712 2nd (East) NCAA Super Regional
2014 South Carolina 4418 1812 2nd (East) NCAA Regional
2015 South Carolina 3225 1317 5th (East)
2016 South Carolina 4618 209 1st (East) NCAA Super Regional
2017 South Carolina 3525 1317 5th (East)

Chad is a great dude and a very good teacher of ball. I learned a lot from him working unc camps back in the day.



Hart took over 'crootin in 2010 (IIRC) and started bringing in dudes year in and year out pretty much immediately.

This is exactly what I was talking about. SC moved Holbrook into lead role and they won 40+ games 3 out of his 5 years, went to the NCAA 3 out of his 5 years and won 30+ games in the other two years. They fired him after that 2017 season and have been at or below.500 four times in the 9 years since. And only over .500 in SEC play 3 times in those 9 years.

Sometimes the guy that helped build it is a better option than the shiny new toy.


You shouldn't make personnel decisions that are based on bad hiring. Yes you can wreck your program if you hire a moron. How about do a good job with your hiring process and don't hire a moron. You have to do a bad job of hiring for SC to suck at baseball. The state of SC has good talent and there is just Clemson and SC at the high major level competing for in state guys and both of those programs are beloved in that state.
CLTWolf
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3rdGenPacker said:

CLTWolf said:

3rdGenPacker said:

NC State has had a very successful program for the last 20 years. Hart is a HUGE reason for that. He pretty much runs things day to day. There's no reason not to at least let him try and see if he can handle the other parts of the program now.

If it doesn't work, there are going to be lots of great options available. That's no guarantee, though. South Carolina probably wishes they'd kept Holbrook at this point.




South Carolina Gamecocks (Southeastern Conference) (20132017)
2013 South Carolina 4320 1712 2nd (East) NCAA Super Regional
2014 South Carolina 4418 1812 2nd (East) NCAA Regional
2015 South Carolina 3225 1317 5th (East)
2016 South Carolina 4618 209 1st (East) NCAA Super Regional
2017 South Carolina 3525 1317 5th (East)

Chad is a great dude and a very good teacher of ball. I learned a lot from him working unc camps back in the day.



Hart took over 'crootin in 2010 (IIRC) and started bringing in dudes year in and year out pretty much immediately.

This is exactly what I was talking about. SC moved Holbrook into lead role and they won 40+ games 3 out of his 5 years, went to the NCAA 3 out of his 5 years and won 30+ games in the other two years. They fired him after that 2017 season and have been at or below.500 four times in the 9 years since. And only over .500 in SEC play 3 times in those 9 years.

Sometimes the guy that helped build it is a better option than the shiny new toy.

100%

Chad was able to keep Jerry Myers and Sammy Esposito from Ray's last staff and kept winning and kept recruiting the state well.

They've now stopped winning and lost the state. What's even worse, is Clemson ain't exactly recruiting the state very well either.
Jtilley
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pack2010 said:

not idea who this is, but i am assuming this is the "chatter". Sogard as pitching coach/AHC would be a homerun



That would be a damn grand slam.
JCooke93
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Agree
CLTWolf
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And there it is.

Congrats Coach Hart!
3rdGenPacker
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CLTWolf said:

3rdGenPacker said:

CLTWolf said:

3rdGenPacker said:

NC State has had a very successful program for the last 20 years. Hart is a HUGE reason for that. He pretty much runs things day to day. There's no reason not to at least let him try and see if he can handle the other parts of the program now.

If it doesn't work, there are going to be lots of great options available. That's no guarantee, though. South Carolina probably wishes they'd kept Holbrook at this point.




South Carolina Gamecocks (Southeastern Conference) (20132017)
2013 South Carolina 4320 1712 2nd (East) NCAA Super Regional
2014 South Carolina 4418 1812 2nd (East) NCAA Regional
2015 South Carolina 3225 1317 5th (East)
2016 South Carolina 4618 209 1st (East) NCAA Super Regional
2017 South Carolina 3525 1317 5th (East)

Chad is a great dude and a very good teacher of ball. I learned a lot from him working unc camps back in the day.



Hart took over 'crootin in 2010 (IIRC) and started bringing in dudes year in and year out pretty much immediately.

This is exactly what I was talking about. SC moved Holbrook into lead role and they won 40+ games 3 out of his 5 years, went to the NCAA 3 out of his 5 years and won 30+ games in the other two years. They fired him after that 2017 season and have been at or below.500 four times in the 9 years since. And only over .500 in SEC play 3 times in those 9 years.

Sometimes the guy that helped build it is a better option than the shiny new toy.

100%

Chad was able to keep Jerry Myers and Sammy Esposito from Ray's last staff and kept winning and kept recruiting the state well.

They've now stopped winning and lost the state. What's even worse, is Clemson ain't exactly recruiting the state very well either.

I was talking to someone about this recently, and I haven't bothered to look, but has Coastal started to recruit SC? They didn't really in the past. Or has SC just not produced as much talent lately?

Another factor is Holbrook still had good NC connections and got some elite players from NC regularly. Had Cory Seager played in college it was going to be at SC becuase of Holbrook.
metcalfmafia
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Boom! Excited to see what he does in the head role!
CLTWolf
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3rdGenPacker said:

CLTWolf said:

3rdGenPacker said:

CLTWolf said:

3rdGenPacker said:

NC State has had a very successful program for the last 20 years. Hart is a HUGE reason for that. He pretty much runs things day to day. There's no reason not to at least let him try and see if he can handle the other parts of the program now.

If it doesn't work, there are going to be lots of great options available. That's no guarantee, though. South Carolina probably wishes they'd kept Holbrook at this point.




South Carolina Gamecocks (Southeastern Conference) (20132017)
2013 South Carolina 4320 1712 2nd (East) NCAA Super Regional
2014 South Carolina 4418 1812 2nd (East) NCAA Regional
2015 South Carolina 3225 1317 5th (East)
2016 South Carolina 4618 209 1st (East) NCAA Super Regional
2017 South Carolina 3525 1317 5th (East)

Chad is a great dude and a very good teacher of ball. I learned a lot from him working unc camps back in the day.



Hart took over 'crootin in 2010 (IIRC) and started bringing in dudes year in and year out pretty much immediately.

This is exactly what I was talking about. SC moved Holbrook into lead role and they won 40+ games 3 out of his 5 years, went to the NCAA 3 out of his 5 years and won 30+ games in the other two years. They fired him after that 2017 season and have been at or below.500 four times in the 9 years since. And only over .500 in SEC play 3 times in those 9 years.

Sometimes the guy that helped build it is a better option than the shiny new toy.

100%

Chad was able to keep Jerry Myers and Sammy Esposito from Ray's last staff and kept winning and kept recruiting the state well.

They've now stopped winning and lost the state. What's even worse, is Clemson ain't exactly recruiting the state very well either.

I was talking to someone about this recently, and I haven't bothered to look, but has Coastal started to recruit SC? They didn't really in the past. Or has SC just not produced as much talent lately?

Another factor is Holbrook still had good NC connections and got some elite players from NC regularly. Had Cory Seager played in college it was going to be at SC becuase of Holbrook.

Chad is still bringing in all SC and a couple NC kids.

Coastal has more SC kids the last couple years than normal.
 
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