Baseball Regional announced field NC State not selected

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NashvillePackFan
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CLTWolf said:

NashvillePackFan said:

CLTWolf said:

James Henderson said:

SportManagementEngineer said:

I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.

It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
I never get this.

What can Boo do?

He can post mean tweets and pound his fist on his imaginary tweeter desk. That's what. Lol

Makes dudes like M_A and bagman feel better about themselves.


Honestly, it does get a little old to see every single thread on all the boards get turned into this. You tell other people to just block/ignore you so why don't you do the same? There's been plenty of times I've logged in and thought there was some big news because the number of new posts, but it's just a two page back and forth between you and someone else.

It's like you just see Henderson's takes (Boo, KK) and aggressively and obnoxiously defend them.

Lol. If you're so triggered, ignore me.



Thanks for making my point, enjoy your day
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James Henderson said:

Wolfpack said:

James Henderson said:

Wolfpack said:

James Henderson said:

Wolfpack said:

James Henderson said:

SportManagementEngineer said:

I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.

It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
I never get this.

What can Boo do?


He should be able to talk to the selection committees and get concrete data passed to the affected personnel on the rationale around the decision
But what is that changing/impacting now?


Ideally, the future. Evidenty State, State fans, State admin, and the NCAA are on completely different wave lengths right now
Is this a new precedent? Have teams in the past been left out with a similar ACC record to NC State or a similar RPI?


I believe State's RPI may be the lowest to get turned away but I haven't dug through every single year of NCAA/RPI existence. it's actually this ambiguity I think the NCAA is responsible for answering for. Why are there no concrete rankings? What is the feel test? Situation in general is just silly bc the NCAA made it be silly

You know which 3 sides get relegated from the EPL? The bottom 3. Because they scored the least points. Not hard
That's the nature of these committees and why IMO it is too subjective probably b/c you can't find one model to rely on and use to pick the teams.




Yep, we agree here. Look, the world isn't fair. I'm a big fan of the conference winner/ranking model. The same situation appears in the UEFA Champions League where they've solved it by telling each league how many slots they have. EPL? 4. Finish top 4? Make the UCL. It doesn't have to be "fair", which is where I think people are mistaken. It just needs to be "known". Known is a much better outcome than trying to be "fair" and using it as reasons to create bias

You cannot control for rankings during conference play. It's a divergent data set. The fact the NCAA even tries with RPI is some smooth brain nonsense. Treat them separately
MaxPack
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Well for those of you worried about it, you got your wish. We don't have to play Tennesseeā€¦
CLTWolf
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NashvillePackFan said:

CLTWolf said:

NashvillePackFan said:

CLTWolf said:

James Henderson said:

SportManagementEngineer said:

I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.

It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
I never get this.

What can Boo do?

He can post mean tweets and pound his fist on his imaginary tweeter desk. That's what. Lol

Makes dudes like M_A and bagman feel better about themselves.


Honestly, it does get a little old to see every single thread on all the boards get turned into this. You tell other people to just block/ignore you so why don't you do the same? There's been plenty of times I've logged in and thought there was some big news because the number of new posts, but it's just a two page back and forth between you and someone else.

It's like you just see Henderson's takes (Boo, KK) and aggressively and obnoxiously defend them.

Lol. If you're so triggered, ignore me.



Thanks for making my point, enjoy your day

I hope I didn't hurt your feelings too bad.
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*Congrats to the 10 win 2021 Wolfpack football team!
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NashvillePackFan said:

CLTWolf said:

James Henderson said:

SportManagementEngineer said:

I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.

It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
I never get this.

What can Boo do?

He can post mean tweets and pound his fist on his imaginary tweeter desk. That's what. Lol

Makes dudes like M_A and bagman feel better about themselves.


Honestly, it does get a little old to see every single thread on all the boards get turned into this. You tell other people to just block/ignore you so why don't you do the same? There's been plenty of times I've logged in and thought there was some big news because the number of new posts, but it's just a two page back and forth between you and someone else.

It's like you just see Henderson's takes (Boo, KK) and aggressively and obnoxiously defend them.
I have a Boo/KK take?!?!?!
Glasswolf
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Everyone stop the bickering. Use the ignore feature please
CLTWolf
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James Henderson said:

NashvillePackFan said:

CLTWolf said:

James Henderson said:

SportManagementEngineer said:

I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.

It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
I never get this.

What can Boo do?

He can post mean tweets and pound his fist on his imaginary tweeter desk. That's what. Lol

Makes dudes like M_A and bagman feel better about themselves.


Honestly, it does get a little old to see every single thread on all the boards get turned into this. You tell other people to just block/ignore you so why don't you do the same? There's been plenty of times I've logged in and thought there was some big news because the number of new posts, but it's just a two page back and forth between you and someone else.

It's like you just see Henderson's takes (Boo, KK) and aggressively and obnoxiously defend them.
I have a Boo/KK take?!?!?!


NO!

See, I didn't defend you that time. Ha
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Borowolf10
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????????
BreakPoint
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Should've beat the holes yesterday. One gameā€¦.ACC title, playing in the tourney.
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Wolfpack said:

James Henderson said:

Wolfpack said:

James Henderson said:

Wolfpack said:

James Henderson said:

Wolfpack said:

James Henderson said:

SportManagementEngineer said:

I'm sorry to sound like "mad online fan" but I'd actually like to see something from Boo here.

It's over and done with, sure, but it would be nice to see anything at all from him.
I never get this.

What can Boo do?


He should be able to talk to the selection committees and get concrete data passed to the affected personnel on the rationale around the decision
But what is that changing/impacting now?


Ideally, the future. Evidenty State, State fans, State admin, and the NCAA are on completely different wave lengths right now
Is this a new precedent? Have teams in the past been left out with a similar ACC record to NC State or a similar RPI?


I believe State's RPI may be the lowest to get turned away but I haven't dug through every single year of NCAA/RPI existence. it's actually this ambiguity I think the NCAA is responsible for answering for. Why are there no concrete rankings? What is the feel test? Situation in general is just silly bc the NCAA made it be silly

You know which 3 sides get relegated from the EPL? The bottom 3. Because they scored the least points. Not hard
That's the nature of these committees and why IMO it is too subjective probably b/c you can't find one model to rely on and use to pick the teams.




Yep, we agree here. Look, the world isn't fair. I'm a big fan of the conference winner/ranking model. The same situation appears in the UEFA Champions League where they've solved it by telling each league how many slots they have. EPL? 4. Finish top 4? Make the UCL. It doesn't have to be "fair", which is where I think people are mistaken. It just needs to be "known". Known is a much better outcome than trying to be "fair" and using it as reasons to create bias

You cannot control for rankings during conference play. It's a divergent data set. The fact the NCAA even tries with RPI is some smooth brain nonsense. Treat them separately
To me the known is the subjectivity. When you play with fire in these situations, you can get burned.
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Borowolf10 said:



????????

God I wish that was on purpose. Hahahaha
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People have too much damn time on their hands. Hacking an AD's account?
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Borowolf10 said:



????????


Geez. Tell me he got hacked haha
NashvillePackFan
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Borowolf10 said:



????????


I've never had an issue with Boo, but what a strange thing to tweet. I don't understand
onemanwolfpack44
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Hacked?
M_A
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There are much more useful targets if we're going to start hacking things
"It's ACC Championship or bust, quite honestly"
Wolfpack
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Hacked and damages our fan bases reputation. I'm close to giving up on this fight haha
Nairo
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Wow. Wow. That's really his account. Wow.

CLTWolf said:

Borowolf10 said:



????????

God I wish that was on purpose. Hahahaha
Tom OBriens Smile
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I mean you can slice and dice this any number of ways, really just how you want to. But let's tackle what former Wake Pitcher, Army AD, and Tourney Chair said...

ACC SERIES WINS: Only 4 series wins, 1 vs a team in the field (GT). Well let's take a look at some of those other teams in our own conference who made it. Wake Forest, 3 series wins, 1 vs a team in the field since State didn't make it (also GT) good enough to earn a 2. Now series wins are important, and a differentiator, but you can't tell me going on the road and taking 1 from VT is a negative and meaningless since you didn't beat them 2 of 3. Other bubble teams like FSU, GT faired better here winning multiple ACC high profile series. But you overall went +.500 in the conference including the ACCT and had at least a win against every ACC team you played outside of ND.

NON CONFERENCE SOS: It isn't good, from a numbers perspective, 189. And if you look at all the teams they were differentiating between at the end, its clear we were on the wrong side of that particular metric. But what did you do OOC? Does beating a Top 8 seed (LOL) in ECU twice, once at their place and once at home not count because the aggregate number isn't high? In most cases you played regional schools, so what's the real anchor here? Quinnipiac, a NE team who has been good who wasn't this year? Radford, a local school you can schedule a series with during your ACC off week? We got beat by Northeastern but even they've been good and their metrics aren't awful. We certainly didn't challenge ourselves by playing like Arkansas or Tennessee but we didn't seek out bad opponents either and had some games cancelled due to weather. You play in the best conference in baseball, and this is only held up at random. It doesn't affect Tennessee's resume that they had a 225 OOC SOS, Arkansas either with a 250 OOC SOS. And while the OOC SOS was bad, once again the overall SOS, you know your entire resume, was 26th. Not exactly a stat filled with cupcakes.

This team is good enough and earned a seat at the table and were speared by a random number, when all the other random numbers were ok.
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2-0 UNCG, 2-0 ECU, 1-0 Miami

None of that matters because the real numbers that matter are in green and come from the $EC
"It's ACC Championship or bust, quite honestly"
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I thought that the people that follow these things very closely thought that we would be on the bubble if we lost in the first round. After the first round, I thought the consensus was that we were in. After winning the second round, we were on the bubble for a second seed. After winning the third round, we were basically a low second round seed. We lose in the finals and we are out? What is going on? I've had it with the NCAA and its flunkies. By the way, I don't post that much. This is the final straw with me. Heads should roll.
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Dave will go 11-1 this year and get sent to El Paso somehow
"It's ACC Championship or bust, quite honestly"
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BreakPoint said:

Should've beat the holes yesterday. One gameā€¦.ACC title, playing in the tourney.


We got the shaft , no question. How 4 teams jumped us just sucks.

The Wake Forest series did us no favors. Got swept and didn't look good in doing that. Just one win might have been all that was needed. Sucks.
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From FSU Coach M Martin, Jrā€¦.

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Tootie4Pack said:

BreakPoint said:

Should've beat the holes yesterday. One gameā€¦.ACC title, playing in the tourney.


We got the shaft , no question. How 4 teams jumped us just sucks.

The Wake Forest series did us no favors. Got swept and didn't look good in doing that. Just one win might have been all that was needed. Sucks.
Yep, State ended the season with UNC/Wake at home and won 1 game. Damaging.
Wolfvet
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If Boo and Avent make some people very uncomfortable over this travesty, perhaps it will be less likely to happen in the future. Go at them hard.
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Wolfvet said:

If Boo and Avent make some people very uncomfortable over this travesty, perhaps it will be less likely to happen in the future. Go at them hard.
But isn't that why folks are saying State got screwed this time? Going at the NCAA last year?
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Nairo said:

Wow. Wow. That's really his account. Wow.

CLTWolf said:

Borowolf10 said:



????????

God I wish that was on purpose. Hahahaha

His account was hacked
Bell Tower Grey
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Baseball shtt on twice in a year by the ncaa
WBB shtt on being sent to Bridgeport
FB shtt on hours before playing the Holiday Bowl
MBB shtt onn with a long, distinguished list

Nah, no ncaa bias toward NC State. No siree, not a bit.

Wonder if Mike Krzyzewski would come onboard at State as an athletics teams emissary to the ncaa since they kissed his ass for so many years?
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I know our doesn't come down to players, but the fact that you have a player like Tommy, with his national following, doesn't get an opportunity to show out in the national stage is criminal as well.
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Just a guy on the sunshine squad.
The Gatekeeper.
Homer Dumbarse.
StateFan2001's favorite poster.
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Steve Videtich said:

I know our doesn't come down to players, but the fact that you have a player like Tommy, with his national following, doesn't get an opportunity to show out in the national stage is criminal as well.
AGREE
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M_A said:

Dave will go 11-1 this year and get sent to El Paso somehow


And then get sent to Madison on a 5 year deal
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Steve Videtich said:

I know our doesn't come down to players, but the fact that you have a player like Tommy, with his national following, doesn't get an opportunity to show out in the national stage is criminal as well.

Great point. I follow college baseball as close as the other two sports (football, basketball) and I couldn't tell you one player on Ole Miss or Grand Canyon. The only player I know on UCONN blew out his elbow and hasn't played at all this season.

EVERYONE knows Tommy White. Even those that don't follow the game closely.
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Borowolf10 said:

I will play devils advocate here real quick. We basically got no punishment for the DSJ stuff, however we squandered that with a terrible team on the court.

I'm still mad about this, just scrambling mentally to find instances where we weren't totally screwed over by the NCAA.
Zavala too, although it took lawyers.
 
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