Why are vaccinated players being tested?

I wish we could turn off James green color when he posts about baseball because he clearly knows **** about the situation. I'm glad he can post his anecdotes and irrelevant outdated studies but it is tiresome and quite irksome to see his continuous support of the NCAA decision to **** State as an NC State website owner.

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I appreciate him compiling everything.

What pisses me off is the NCAA just "knew we couldn't finish" and then called it at 1am. Could they not have waited until the next afternoon at the latest. Maybe sit down with people and discuss potential opportunities.

It just seems like they took the easy route and moved on.

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I think once you reach 8 positives and contact tracing it become a question of if State can even field a team.

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So contact tracing is more important than a negative test result? 19 of them to be exact

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Brother, my daughter tested positive for Covid on a Sunday.

I tested Sunday Monday tuesday and Wednesday l, all negatives.

Finally tested positive Thursday. There's a reason one initial negative test doesn't mean anything at all.

Hell my doc told me I may not test positive for a week, which is why I don't think those non vaxed players were going to be allowed to return until maybe Tuesday or wed, pending all negatives.

Especially after apparently two more positives Friday am.

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Then what's the point of testing at all? We are testing players 1 day before the game knowing full well the tests don't prove anything one way or the other?

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Ding ding ding

Plus....its a freaking outdoor sport. Probably less than a 5% chance we spread to another team on the field. Hell, let us wear masks and that's lower. Faucci says so. Lmao

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What a joke. If you are NC State, a positive test means you have to sit.......a negative test means you might still have it so you have to sit as well. Makes perfect sense

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Idk how to link but its come to light too that The county health depth in Omaha DID NOT recommend NC State be removed. In fact they said they saw nothing in their guidelines that would cause us to be removed.

The Health dept simply stated they would support the ncaas decision. So essentially the ncaa threw them under the bus, as to why we were removed.

There you go! That's probably why it said things aren't finished between State and the ncaa

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that whole thing has been taken waaaay out of context because it's not the full release. them not "recommending" we be removed is because they have to follow local guidelines. like by the guidelines the city of omaha outlines, and obviously there are none. them not officially recommending us to be removed is because they can't make a call based on ncaa guidelines. it doesn't mean they disagreed with the ncaa, per say. they don't give a damn either way.

Reid Johnston's mom says her son has had 6 straight negative tests and is not allowed to play ...


This is why people are rightfully pissed.


Select contact tracing vs NC State baseball but not Clemson football .


All players testing negative shoukd have taken the field .

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I'd still like to know why they wouldn't play a double header Saturday and why is State so mad if this is how it played out? Why didn't the NCAA say something if this is actually what happened?

I know they said Corbin did nothing but it's not like somebody would admit that on the record. His comments last couple days have been awfully fishy.

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you really think vandy would've agreed to play a double header? you'd be asking them to win two games in the one day. no way corbin's going for that.

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Why would Corbin's opinion matter? It's not a regular season game where the schools make that decision

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the ncaa isn't gonna put them in that position. in the name of "fairness" they're not gonna ask vanderbilt to make a concession to benefit us.

Contact tracing right now among college kids is idiotic.

Vaccines are available, life goes on. 21,000 in the crowd last night, it's all bull**** .

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Why are vaccinated players being tested?

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They were only being tested because we had what they deemed a team outbreak.

I believe a vaccine doesn't 100 percent guarantee you won't spread the virus or contract it.

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the 2 positive tests (by unvaccinated players) triggered the "outbreak" clause. outbreak clause means everyone's getting tested no matter vaccination status.

vaccinated players could only be tested under two circumstances: 1) "outbreak"/multiple unvaccinated players test positive on the team 2) the vaccinated player is displaying symptoms

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I wish we could turn off James green color when he posts about baseball because he clearly knows **** about the situation. I'm glad he can post his anecdotes and irrelevant outdated studies but it is tiresome and quite irksome to see his continuous support of the NCAA decision to **** State as an NC State website owner.

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Just because I run a State website doesn't mean I have to believe State got screwed here. Trust me, I'll admit it for sure when it happens, ask the folks who get mad when I bring up officiating after losses.

In this situation though, I talk to people too, was familiar with the Ncaa's guidelines ahead of time, and we always don't have to agree.

It's okay to acknowledge at times when you have blame, and State does here for various issues. I'll either write up what I've heard or post it in a pod later.

But if tou want to be mad at the ncaa for enforcing the rules laid out to everyone ahead of time, go right ahead.

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James do you think they should have been doing any regular testing to begin with? The entire country is wide open. The only people I still see getting tested are athletes, college and professional. These so called "Health & Safety" protocols are keeping who safe exactly? As the NCAA brags about attendance. What are we even doing here?

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I wish we could turn off James green color when he posts about baseball because he clearly knows **** about the situation. I'm glad he can post his anecdotes and irrelevant outdated studies but it is tiresome and quite irksome to see his continuous support of the NCAA decision to **** State as an NC State website owner.

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Just because I run a State website doesn't mean I have to believe State got screwed here. Trust me, I'll admit it for sure when it happens, ask the folks who get mad when I bring up officiating after losses.

In this situation though, I talk to people too, was familiar with the Ncaa's guidelines ahead of time, and we always don't have to agree.

It's okay to acknowledge at times when you have blame, and State does here for various issues. I'll either write up what I've heard or post it in a pod later.

But if tou want to be mad at the ncaa for enforcing the rules laid out to everyone ahead of time, go right ahead.

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Could you please write up what you've heard? That's my thing. Until D1s article, just so much info being thrown out there on social media we don't know what to believe. Would greatly appreciate!

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I wish we could turn off James green color when he posts about baseball because he clearly knows **** about the situation. I'm glad he can post his anecdotes and irrelevant outdated studies but it is tiresome and quite irksome to see his continuous support of the NCAA decision to **** State as an NC State website owner.

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Just because I run a State website doesn't mean I have to believe State got screwed here. Trust me, I'll admit it for sure when it happens, ask the folks who get mad when I bring up officiating after losses.

In this situation though, I talk to people too, was familiar with the Ncaa's guidelines ahead of time, and we always don't have to agree.

It's okay to acknowledge at times when you have blame, and State does here for various issues. I'll either write up what I've heard or post it in a pod later.

But if tou want to be mad at the ncaa for enforcing the rules laid out to everyone ahead of time, go right ahead.

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I think your missing the point that people think the rules are absurd as of June , 2021 , especially when they are allowing 30,000 fans . Not the selective enforcement of an already stupid rule .

Reid Johnston has 6 negative tests and couldn't play . That's a stupid rule if that's allowed to happen .

Have some flexibility . Don't have the same rules you had back in March . Use common sense . Not that hard to resolve fairly . Play the negative players . If your argument is tracing then that applies to Vandy also.

Restraunts , music venues , sporting events have revised their protocols .... but NCAA has not . Except in their own sanctioned event stadiums ... interesting .

I don't think there is anyone that thinks there isn't some blame for NC State. Things happened for whatever reason and those people have to live with those consequences for the rest of their lives. But, there is also considerable blame for the NCAA. Nonsensical testing policy, lack of communication, a seeming rushed timeline on decisions that come off looking like solely due to TV considerations. That is what has virtually everyone associated with NC State sports, fans, reporters, websites alike upset, and yet you James seem intent on being Custer on this hill. I love you man, and I love this website, but read the room some.

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I don't think there is anyone that thinks there isn't some blame for NC State. Things happened for whatever reason and those people have to live with those consequences for the rest of their lives. But, there is also considerable blame for the NCAA. Nonsensical testing policy, lack of communication, a seeming rushed timeline on decisions that come off looking like solely due to TV considerations. That is what has virtually everyone associated with NC State sports, fans, reporters, websites alike upset, and yet you James seem intent on being Custer on this hill. I love you man, and I love this website, but read the room some.

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nah bro. james is never wrong, just ask him

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Why are vaccinated players being tested?

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They were only being tested because we had what they deemed a team outbreak.

I believe a vaccine doesn't 100 percent guarantee you won't spread the virus or contract it.

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I get what you're saying, but based on the NCAA's rules, it's just comical.

Vaccinated kids = no testing.

That means that either the NCAA thinks kids that are vaccinated aren't major threats to spread it, or they don't care if those kids have COVID since there will be no major symptoms.

So why test those kids now? If you aren't testing the vaccinated kids on Vandy, you shouldn't test the vaccinated kids on NC State, there is no reason to justify this one imo. Vandy could have the entire team vaccinated and 10 of those kids could be COVID positive but no one would care because they aren't forced to get tested.

So we have 2 kids test positive that are unvaccinated, fair enough. But we also have 4 kids vaccinated test positive. Now, those kids would normally be eligible to play with no questions asked, per NCAA ruiles, because they wouldn't be tested. So if we have our entire team vaccinated and we have 6 kids that would test positive, but aren't tested, it's just fine and dandy for them to go play. But if we have 4 vaccinated kids that test positive, then they can't play. The science just doesn't support making them sit.

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I wish we could turn off James green color when he posts about baseball because he clearly knows **** about the situation. I'm glad he can post his anecdotes and irrelevant outdated studies but it is tiresome and quite irksome to see his continuous support of the NCAA decision to **** State as an NC State website owner.

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Just because I run a State website doesn't mean I have to believe State got screwed here. Trust me, I'll admit it for sure when it happens, ask the folks who get mad when I bring up officiating after losses.

In this situation though, I talk to people too, was familiar with the Ncaa's guidelines ahead of time, and we always don't have to agree.

It's okay to acknowledge at times when you have blame, and State does here for various issues. I'll either write up what I've heard or post it in a pod later.

But if tou want to be mad at the ncaa for enforcing the rules laid out to everyone ahead of time, go right ahead.

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I think your missing the point that people think the rules are absurd as of June , 2021 , especially when they are allowing 30,000 fans . Not the selective enforcement of an already stupid rule .

Reid Johnston has 6 negative tests and couldn't play . That's a stupid rule if that's allowed to happen .

Have some flexibility . Don't have the same rules you had back in March . Use common sense . Not that hard to resolve fairly . Play the negative players . If your argument is tracing then that applies to Vandy also.

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When was Reid tested 6 times? So far I've read/heard about once post-jarrett positive.

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His mom is posting in Kendall Rogers tweet thread .

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I wish we could turn off James green color when he posts about baseball because he clearly knows **** about the situation. I'm glad he can post his anecdotes and irrelevant outdated studies but it is tiresome and quite irksome to see his continuous support of the NCAA decision to **** State as an NC State website owner.

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Just because I run a State website doesn't mean I have to believe State got screwed here. Trust me, I'll admit it for sure when it happens, ask the folks who get mad when I bring up officiating after losses.

In this situation though, I talk to people too, was familiar with the Ncaa's guidelines ahead of time, and we always don't have to agree.

It's okay to acknowledge at times when you have blame, and State does here for various issues. I'll either write up what I've heard or post it in a pod later.

But if tou want to be mad at the ncaa for enforcing the rules laid out to everyone ahead of time, go right ahead.

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I think your missing the point that people think the rules are absurd as of June , 2021 , especially when they are allowing 30,000 fans . Not the selective enforcement of an already stupid rule .

Reid Johnston has 6 negative tests and couldn't play . That's a stupid rule if that's allowed to happen .

Have some flexibility . Don't have the same rules you had back in March . Use common sense . Not that hard to resolve fairly . Play the negative players . If your argument is tracing then that applies to Vandy also.

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When was Reid tested 6 times? So far I've read/heard about once post-jarrett positive.

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My son had 6 negative test and could not play Friday.

— Katherine Johnston (@kljohnston5743) June 27, 2021

literally his mom

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I wish we could turn off James green color when he posts about baseball because he clearly knows **** about the situation. I'm glad he can post his anecdotes and irrelevant outdated studies but it is tiresome and quite irksome to see his continuous support of the NCAA decision to **** State as an NC State website owner.

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Just because I run a State website doesn't mean I have to believe State got screwed here. Trust me, I'll admit it for sure when it happens, ask the folks who get mad when I bring up officiating after losses.

In this situation though, I talk to people too, was familiar with the Ncaa's guidelines ahead of time, and we always don't have to agree.

It's okay to acknowledge at times when you have blame, and State does here for various issues. I'll either write up what I've heard or post it in a pod later.

But if tou want to be mad at the ncaa for enforcing the rules laid out to everyone ahead of time, go right ahead.

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I think your missing the point that people think the rules are absurd as of June , 2021 , especially when they are allowing 30,000 fans . Not the selective enforcement of an already stupid rule .

Reid Johnston has 6 negative tests and couldn't play . That's a stupid rule if that's allowed to happen .

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THIS. We could take this in stride if we genuinely believed this was a player health and safety decision. vaccination wasn't required by players or the 25K fans in the stadium. 25K unvetted fans speaks to NCAA not really being concerned with player health and safety. the hypocrisy doesn't make sense. who exactly is in danger? what's the point they're trying to make? this was political, not a science/health decision.

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I don't think there is anyone that thinks there isn't some blame for NC State. Things happened for whatever reason and those people have to live with those consequences for the rest of their lives. But, there is also considerable blame for the NCAA. Nonsensical testing policy, lack of communication, a seeming rushed timeline on decisions that come off looking like solely due to TV considerations. That is what has virtually everyone associated with NC State sports, fans, reporters, websites alike upset, and yet you James seem intent on being Custer on this hill. I love you man, and I love this website, but read the room some.

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nah bro. james is never wrong, just ask him

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I'm wrong a lot. I don't even understand how this is a right or wrong situation relative to me or you.

All I've consistently said is all 8 teams knew the testing guidelines ahead of time.

Serious question, did we just assume if a team at the CWS had an outbreak, the ncaa would just continue to let them play?

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And we are saying those guidelines don't match today's times . And they are subjective in nature when it comes to contact tracing . When you allow 30,000 fans in the stands you can't keep stringent protocols especially when every team was mingling with fans in hotels all week . Vandy had send off parties . Rocker was signing autographs in the stands . Teams were allowed and even suggested to go to community events and cook outs on off days. They weren't in a bubble or required to be ... so don't use bubble level protocols when you got 30,000 fans drinking Budweiser out of their own shoes and you promote it .

My two cents. Anyone in America can get a vaccine whenever they want. If you want one, get one. If you don't then don't. Everyone go back to normal. If you roll the dice and don't get a vaccine and are in any risk group then that is on you. None of these kids are getting sick. They are well above average athletes in prime shape. If you are worried about getting sick then get vaccinated and stay out of everyone else's way. That's the science and that's common sense. Not a lot of either going around these days.

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Why are vaccinated players being tested?

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They were only being tested because we had what they deemed a team outbreak.

I believe a vaccine doesn't 100 percent guarantee you won't spread the virus or contract it.

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nope, but you know what? a PCR of a vaccinated-asymptomatic-exposed person will almost always result in a positive test.

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I wish we could turn off James green color when he posts about baseball because he clearly knows **** about the situation. I'm glad he can post his anecdotes and irrelevant outdated studies but it is tiresome and quite irksome to see his continuous support of the NCAA decision to **** State as an NC State website owner.

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Just because I run a State website doesn't mean I have to believe State got screwed here. Trust me, I'll admit it for sure when it happens, ask the folks who get mad when I bring up officiating after losses.

In this situation though, I talk to people too, was familiar with the Ncaa's guidelines ahead of time, and we always don't have to agree.

It's okay to acknowledge at times when you have blame, and State does here for various issues. I'll either write up what I've heard or post it in a pod later.

But if tou want to be mad at the ncaa for enforcing the rules laid out to everyone ahead of time, go right ahead.

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I think your missing the point that people think the rules are absurd as of June , 2021 , especially when they are allowing 30,000 fans . Not the selective enforcement of an already stupid rule .

Reid Johnston has 6 negative tests and couldn't play . That's a stupid rule if that's allowed to happen .

Have some flexibility . Don't have the same rules you had back in March . Use common sense . Not that hard to resolve fairly . Play the negative players . If your argument is tracing then that applies to Vandy also.

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When was Reid tested 6 times? So far I've read/heard about once post-jarrett positive.

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My son had 6 negative test and could not play Friday.

— Katherine Johnston (@kljohnston5743) June 27, 2021

literally his mom

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I'm not sure how that tweet answers my question.

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of course not. you probably need 7 negative tests over the course of 14 days to prove youre right.

you really think his mom would talk about random testing during the season? come on man

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I wish we could turn off James green color when he posts about baseball because he clearly knows **** about the situation. I'm glad he can post his anecdotes and irrelevant outdated studies but it is tiresome and quite irksome to see his continuous support of the NCAA decision to **** State as an NC State website owner.

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Just because I run a State website doesn't mean I have to believe State got screwed here. Trust me, I'll admit it for sure when it happens, ask the folks who get mad when I bring up officiating after losses.

In this situation though, I talk to people too, was familiar with the Ncaa's guidelines ahead of time, and we always don't have to agree.

It's okay to acknowledge at times when you have blame, and State does here for various issues. I'll either write up what I've heard or post it in a pod later.

But if tou want to be mad at the ncaa for enforcing the rules laid out to everyone ahead of time, go right ahead.

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I think your missing the point that people think the rules are absurd as of June , 2021 , especially when they are allowing 30,000 fans . Not the selective enforcement of an already stupid rule .

Reid Johnston has 6 negative tests and couldn't play . That's a stupid rule if that's allowed to happen .

Have some flexibility . Don't have the same rules you had back in March . Use common sense . Not that hard to resolve fairly . Play the negative players . If your argument is tracing then that applies to Vandy also.

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When was Reid tested 6 times? So far I've read/heard about once post-jarrett positive.

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My son had 6 negative test and could not play Friday.

— Katherine Johnston (@kljohnston5743) June 27, 2021

literally his mom

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I'm not sure how that tweet answers my question.

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Lol. Of course you don't. Get those website hits.

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I don't think there is anyone that thinks there isn't some blame for NC State. Things happened for whatever reason and those people have to live with those consequences for the rest of their lives. But, there is also considerable blame for the NCAA. Nonsensical testing policy, lack of communication, a seeming rushed timeline on decisions that come off looking like solely due to TV considerations. That is what has virtually everyone associated with NC State sports, fans, reporters, websites alike upset, and yet you James seem intent on being Custer on this hill. I love you man, and I love this website, but read the room some.

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nah bro. james is never wrong, just ask him

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I'm wrong a lot. I don't even understand how this is a right or wrong situation relative to me or you.

All I've consistently said is all 8 teams knew the testing guidelines ahead of time.

Serious question, did we just assume if a team at the CWS had an outbreak, the ncaa would just continue to let them play?

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it certainly couldn't hurt their image to show a little empathy.

James, you should quit posting because you are going to lose a lot of customers over this.

The bigger issue why are we still having covid protocols in these tourneys? U have all these fans in the stands with no social distancing and no masks on. Crazy