FourOaksWolf said:wilmwolf80 said:
I know it's hard to keep up with everything with so many threads, but please read my post from the now locked vaccination thread.
"Per information from gooack1979, the whole team was scheduled to get vaccinated, half one day and half the other. The first half got it, and then they halted distribution of the Johnson and Johnson the next day. It has been reported that the only team in Omaha that was fully vaccinated is Texas. I would imagine that holds true across the country. This wasn't a political stance the players took. The vaccine became available in the middle of the season, and they were doing their best to get it. Focusing on this is doing a disservice to the players. "
Several talk show hosts and their callers sure don't know this. Passing blame on our baseball program yesterday.
That's not true; unvaccinated players were being tested by the NCAAwilmwolf80 said:
That's a symptom of the social media age were we don't need the facts to share a wrong opinion on something. At this time, there is very little, actual written factual information that is public knowledge.
Outside of the statements from the NCAA and from us (and this is an instance where worrying about privacy concerns is hurting us), the only facts that we know are:
-Someone was sick, was tested, and was positive.
-13 vaccinated players were allowed to play Friday without being tested.
- Those players were subsequently tested and four of them tested positive, resulting in a forced forfeit.
Outside of that, all the info posted by me, anyone else, said by talkshows, tweeted, etc. is all hearsay. Blaming what happened on unvaccinated players simply doesn't have any documented source. We know that someone (Jarrett) was sick. Coach said he was sick after Mondays game. He was tested because he was sick, not because he wasn't vaccinated. If he hadn't been sick, he wouldn't have been tested, regardless of vaccination status. It is entirely possible that he is vaccinated and still became ill. We simply don't know.
Yep. We went from sugar to shti pretty quickly on some espn related sports talk shows. Screw'em all.FourOaksWolf said:wilmwolf80 said:
I know it's hard to keep up with everything with so many threads, but please read my post from the now locked vaccination thread.
"Per information from gooack1979, the whole team was scheduled to get vaccinated, half one day and half the other. The first half got it, and then they halted distribution of the Johnson and Johnson the next day. It has been reported that the only team in Omaha that was fully vaccinated is Texas. I would imagine that holds true across the country. This wasn't a political stance the players took. The vaccine became available in the middle of the season, and they were doing their best to get it. Focusing on this is doing a disservice to the players. "
Several talk show hosts and their callers sure don't know this. Passing blame on our baseball program yesterday.
James Henderson said:That's not true; unvaccinated players were being tested by the NCAAwilmwolf80 said:
That's a symptom of the social media age were we don't need the facts to share a wrong opinion on something. At this time, there is very little, actual written factual information that is public knowledge.
Outside of the statements from the NCAA and from us (and this is an instance where worrying about privacy concerns is hurting us), the only facts that we know are:
-Someone was sick, was tested, and was positive.
-13 vaccinated players were allowed to play Friday without being tested.
- Those players were subsequently tested and four of them tested positive, resulting in a forced forfeit.
Outside of that, all the info posted by me, anyone else, said by talkshows, tweeted, etc. is all hearsay. Blaming what happened on unvaccinated players simply doesn't have any documented source. We know that someone (Jarrett) was sick. Coach said he was sick after Mondays game. He was tested because he was sick, not because he wasn't vaccinated. If he hadn't been sick, he wouldn't have been tested, regardless of vaccination status. It is entirely possible that he is vaccinated and still became ill. We simply don't know.
James Henderson said:That's not true; unvaccinated players were being tested by the NCAAwilmwolf80 said:
That's a symptom of the social media age were we don't need the facts to share a wrong opinion on something. At this time, there is very little, actual written factual information that is public knowledge.
Outside of the statements from the NCAA and from us (and this is an instance where worrying about privacy concerns is hurting us), the only facts that we know are:
-Someone was sick, was tested, and was positive.
-13 vaccinated players were allowed to play Friday without being tested.
- Those players were subsequently tested and four of them tested positive, resulting in a forced forfeit.
Outside of that, all the info posted by me, anyone else, said by talkshows, tweeted, etc. is all hearsay. Blaming what happened on unvaccinated players simply doesn't have any documented source. We know that someone (Jarrett) was sick. Coach said he was sick after Mondays game. He was tested because he was sick, not because he wasn't vaccinated. If he hadn't been sick, he wouldn't have been tested, regardless of vaccination status. It is entirely possible that he is vaccinated and still became ill. We simply don't know.
wilmwolf80 said:
And again, continuing to focus on the vaccination status of the players is a disservice to them. We had enough vaccinated players to continue to play, one way or another. Those four positive tests after the Friday game should be the focus.
Unvaxed guys were being tested every other day.Bas2020 said:James Henderson said:That's not true; unvaccinated players were being tested by the NCAAwilmwolf80 said:
That's a symptom of the social media age were we don't need the facts to share a wrong opinion on something. At this time, there is very little, actual written factual information that is public knowledge.
Outside of the statements from the NCAA and from us (and this is an instance where worrying about privacy concerns is hurting us), the only facts that we know are:
-Someone was sick, was tested, and was positive.
-13 vaccinated players were allowed to play Friday without being tested.
- Those players were subsequently tested and four of them tested positive, resulting in a forced forfeit.
Outside of that, all the info posted by me, anyone else, said by talkshows, tweeted, etc. is all hearsay. Blaming what happened on unvaccinated players simply doesn't have any documented source. We know that someone (Jarrett) was sick. Coach said he was sick after Mondays game. He was tested because he was sick, not because he wasn't vaccinated. If he hadn't been sick, he wouldn't have been tested, regardless of vaccination status. It is entirely possible that he is vaccinated and still became ill. We simply don't know.
Jarrett was vaccinated
I was told State's regular test day was Thursday, which was when JT tested positive.wilmwolf80 said:James Henderson said:That's not true; unvaccinated players were being tested by the NCAAwilmwolf80 said:
That's a symptom of the social media age were we don't need the facts to share a wrong opinion on something. At this time, there is very little, actual written factual information that is public knowledge.
Outside of the statements from the NCAA and from us (and this is an instance where worrying about privacy concerns is hurting us), the only facts that we know are:
-Someone was sick, was tested, and was positive.
-13 vaccinated players were allowed to play Friday without being tested.
- Those players were subsequently tested and four of them tested positive, resulting in a forced forfeit.
Outside of that, all the info posted by me, anyone else, said by talkshows, tweeted, etc. is all hearsay. Blaming what happened on unvaccinated players simply doesn't have any documented source. We know that someone (Jarrett) was sick. Coach said he was sick after Mondays game. He was tested because he was sick, not because he wasn't vaccinated. If he hadn't been sick, he wouldn't have been tested, regardless of vaccination status. It is entirely possible that he is vaccinated and still became ill. We simply don't know.
But Jarrett was tested because he had symptoms. If you have information that refutes that, please post it.
I believe Justice did too.wilmwolf80 said:
I was told Jarrett tested positive Wednesday. I want him to come out and say he was vaccinated so we can just burn this whole stupid narrative.
I had a ton of questions answered this morning about the process that led to @NCStateBaseball’s removal from the @NCAACWS. I’ll have a story out here in a couple of hours. It clears a lot of things up.
— Kendall Rogers (@KendallRogers) June 27, 2021
Wolfpacklife said:I had a ton of questions answered this morning about the process that led to @NCStateBaseball’s removal from the @NCAACWS. I’ll have a story out here in a couple of hours. It clears a lot of things up.
— Kendall Rogers (@KendallRogers) June 27, 2021
"This decision was made based on the recommendation of the Championship Medical Team and the Douglas County Health Department," the NCAA said in a statement. "As a result, Vanderbilt will advance to the CWS Finals.wolfpack1437 said:
Look, I'm a member over at PP but only bc I've had a membership forever from when James and Steve were the guys.
Regardless of what anyone thinks of them, I applaud them for releasing this article. The Pack getting screwed happens more often than not bc the very few people we have on our side with ability to raise hell, actually do so
https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina-state/Article/NC-State-baseball-College-World-Series-NCAA-dismissal-Vanderbilt-CWS-Elliott-Avent-167089773/
James Henderson said:"This decision was made based on the recommendation of the Championship Medical Team and the Douglas County Health Department," the NCAA said in a statement. "As a result, Vanderbilt will advance to the CWS Finals.wolfpack1437 said:
Look, I'm a member over at PP but only bc I've had a membership forever from when James and Steve were the guys.
Regardless of what anyone thinks of them, I applaud them for releasing this article. The Pack getting screwed happens more often than not bc the very few people we have on our side with ability to raise hell, actually do so
https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina-state/Article/NC-State-baseball-College-World-Series-NCAA-dismissal-Vanderbilt-CWS-Elliott-Avent-167089773/
"The NCAA and the committee regret that NC State's student-athletes and coaching staff will not be able to continue in the championship in which they earned the right to participate. Because of privacy issues, we cannot provide further details."
Douglas County Health Department spokesman Phil Rooney said the health department did not recommend NC State's removal but told the NCAA the department would support whatever decision the NCAA made.
Rooney said the health department provides assistance to the NCAA in testing and contact tracing but is limited in mandating procedures related to COVID-19 because there is no local directed health measure in effect.
The way I read that is the NCAA made the decision to remove NC State based on the recommendation of the Championship Medical Team AND the Douglas County Health Department.
I didn't read that as if the decision was made by the Douglas County Health Department or solely on what the Douglas County Health Department suggested.
I'd think DC Health gave the NCAA their opinion/houghts and
I don't know what we expected the outcome to be. We had 6 positives and 14 other potential positives pending Saturday testing. What did we think we would happen at that point?
VCU was removed from the NCAAs even though they had over the suggested # of players to play. I pretty much expected the same for State unless the Pack would have been able to play with 13 vaxed players. After those guys were tested (which was within the rules) and 4 came back positive, well they aren't putting known positive players on the field. No one does that.
I would have liked to see the negative players able to play. Obviously if there is an "incubation period" there's a good chance people aren't contagious during that period. Regardless, it's a socially distanced game being played outside. I would have been fine with any positive tests having to sit out a gamewilmwolf80 said:
The outcome I would've liked was the opportunity to verify the validity of those positive tests among vaccinated players. Multiple people way smarter than me have pointed out the flaws of testing vaccinated players with that test. I don't expect unvaccinated people that test positive to be able to play, and I understand why they wouldn't let unvaccinated players play with pending tests. But as I see it one of two things happened, either those tests on the vaccinated players are faulty, or they were exposed to a variant resistant to the vaccine. If it's the latter, and we are all about player safety, then every single player there is at risk and the whole thing should be shut down.
Oh yeah, one more thing, in none of my reporting did the idea that Tim Corbin demanded anyone retested come up. That narrative needs to stop. Ridiculous. https://t.co/zAn9XOt3mt
— Kendall Rogers (@KendallRogers) June 27, 2021
Even if true, he's still a ***** and I hope they get their dick kicked in by MSU.James Henderson said:Oh yeah, one more thing, in none of my reporting did the idea that Tim Corbin demanded anyone retested come up. That narrative needs to stop. Ridiculous. https://t.co/zAn9XOt3mt
— Kendall Rogers (@KendallRogers) June 27, 2021
wolfpack1437 said:I would have liked to see the negative players able to play. Obviously if there is an "incubation period" there's a good chance people aren't contagious during that period. Regardless, it's a socially distanced game being played outside. I would have been fine with any positive tests having to sit out a gamewilmwolf80 said:
The outcome I would've liked was the opportunity to verify the validity of those positive tests among vaccinated players. Multiple people way smarter than me have pointed out the flaws of testing vaccinated players with that test. I don't expect unvaccinated people that test positive to be able to play, and I understand why they wouldn't let unvaccinated players play with pending tests. But as I see it one of two things happened, either those tests on the vaccinated players are faulty, or they were exposed to a variant resistant to the vaccine. If it's the latter, and we are all about player safety, then every single player there is at risk and the whole thing should be shut down.
James Henderson said:wolfpack1437 said:I would have liked to see the negative players able to play. Obviously if there is an "incubation period" there's a good chance people aren't contagious during that period. Regardless, it's a socially distanced game being played outside. I would have been fine with any positive tests having to sit out a gamewilmwolf80 said:
The outcome I would've liked was the opportunity to verify the validity of those positive tests among vaccinated players. Multiple people way smarter than me have pointed out the flaws of testing vaccinated players with that test. I don't expect unvaccinated people that test positive to be able to play, and I understand why they wouldn't let unvaccinated players play with pending tests. But as I see it one of two things happened, either those tests on the vaccinated players are faulty, or they were exposed to a variant resistant to the vaccine. If it's the latter, and we are all about player safety, then every single player there is at risk and the whole thing should be shut down.
Those guys need to be tested more if in contact tracing. It can take up to 7 days I thikk for a positive test.
I'm not a Dr but my point is, even if you have contracted it but are testing negative, I would think that means you aren't contagious. If you aren't contagious you should be able to play.James Henderson said:wolfpack1437 said:I would have liked to see the negative players able to play. Obviously if there is an "incubation period" there's a good chance people aren't contagious during that period. Regardless, it's a socially distanced game being played outside. I would have been fine with any positive tests having to sit out a gamewilmwolf80 said:
The outcome I would've liked was the opportunity to verify the validity of those positive tests among vaccinated players. Multiple people way smarter than me have pointed out the flaws of testing vaccinated players with that test. I don't expect unvaccinated people that test positive to be able to play, and I understand why they wouldn't let unvaccinated players play with pending tests. But as I see it one of two things happened, either those tests on the vaccinated players are faulty, or they were exposed to a variant resistant to the vaccine. If it's the latter, and we are all about player safety, then every single player there is at risk and the whole thing should be shut down.
Those guys need to be tested more if in contact tracing. It can take up to 7 days I thikk for a positive test.
I guess he didn't talk to Giglio. I heard the same thing as Joe at the game and again afterwards. This could be Corbin saying he wouldn't agree to the DH, a delayed game, or play the game with positives sitting out and just test the team again after the game....who knowsJames Henderson said:Oh yeah, one more thing, in none of my reporting did the idea that Tim Corbin demanded anyone retested come up. That narrative needs to stop. Ridiculous. https://t.co/zAn9XOt3mt
— Kendall Rogers (@KendallRogers) June 27, 2021
From a Vandy booster, that corroborates a state source, Corbin absolutely would not agree to any more delay because Rocker had started his warm up at 2pm.wolfpack1437 said:I guess he didn't talk to Giglio. I heard the same thing as Joe at the game and again afterwards. This could be Corbin saying he wouldn't agree to the DH, a delayed game, or play the game with positives sitting out and just test the team again after the game....who knowsJames Henderson said:Oh yeah, one more thing, in none of my reporting did the idea that Tim Corbin demanded anyone retested come up. That narrative needs to stop. Ridiculous. https://t.co/zAn9XOt3mt
— Kendall Rogers (@KendallRogers) June 27, 2021
