Basketball recruiting and transfers

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ClePack
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WolfpackSI said:

ClePack said:

Keatts the the worst recruiter we've had here in a long, long time.
Where did those superior recruiters get us?
About the same place, I guess. Although we did make the tournament more than once.
Packfan8
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Rylan griffen cancels Kansas visit, instead going to Oklahoma
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ClePack said:

WolfpackSI said:

ClePack said:

Keatts the the worst recruiter we've had here in a long, long time.
Where did those superior recruiters get us?
About the same place, I guess. Although we did make the tournament more than once.


Once in 2 years. The past two years had a canceled tourney and then short offseason. I believe guns and roses said it best.. Have a little patience.
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Acb0110 said:

ClePack said:

WolfpackSI said:

ClePack said:

Keatts the the worst recruiter we've had here in a long, long time.
Where did those superior recruiters get us?
About the same place, I guess. Although we did make the tournament more than once.


Once in 2 years. The past two years had a canceled tourney and then short offseason. I believe guns and roses said it best.. Have a little patience.

Patience for what? Not like we're currently building anything here unfortunately.
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ClePack said:

Acb0110 said:

ClePack said:

WolfpackSI said:

ClePack said:

Keatts the the worst recruiter we've had here in a long, long time.
Where did those superior recruiters get us?
About the same place, I guess. Although we did make the tournament more than once.


Once in 2 years. The past two years had a canceled tourney and then short offseason. I believe guns and roses said it best.. Have a little patience.

Patience for what? Not like we're currently building anything here unfortunately.


This is hilarious to me. He hasn't had a losing record in the conference in his 4 years here, but I guess everyone has forgotten how tough the acc is. Most coaches get chewed up and spit out by this conference. Let's put this into prospective, let's talk about our last four coaches in conference after 4 years.
Herb- never finished 500 in conference:
Sid- never finished above 6-10
Gott- All at or over 500 seasons (lucky to get in the tournament 2 of the 4 times) Last team in twice.
Keatts- All at or over 500. (Unlucky with tournament 2 years) would have made the tournament in 2020 and should have made it in 2019 if it weren't for the UNC narrative.

Let's see if Kevin's year 5 and 6 looks like the Gott man or if he can turn the corner like Herb did in year six. I really feel like KK is on the edge of something great. I think if he can keep coach Mike here we can build something huge here. Keatts can truly identify talent. So many of the guys we were close on have been nba players (Bey, Pat Williams, Hall, leque) He clearly can spot good players early, we just have to get one of campus. This team will be really good this year, just a gut feeling
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justinxxll said:

I don't have a source or any info to back this up but Green visiting FSU in the coming days for some reason gives me a bad feeling
Welp
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We need these kids, already doing this in 8th grade and 9th grade. Eli has a wvu and South Carolina offer
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Only 5 programs have finished ACC play with a .500 record or better over Keatts first 4 years: Duke, Lville, FSU, UVA, and NC State. That's good company to be in, especially when you take in the context of Keatts first four years (COVID, injuries, recruits going pro, etc). As for this coming year, State had one top-100 recruit on the roster last season. They have 5 this season. We are building something.
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Jaywolf27 said:

ClePack said:

Acb0110 said:

ClePack said:

WolfpackSI said:

ClePack said:

Keatts the the worst recruiter we've had here in a long, long time.
Where did those superior recruiters get us?
About the same place, I guess. Although we did make the tournament more than once.


Once in 2 years. The past two years had a canceled tourney and then short offseason. I believe guns and roses said it best.. Have a little patience.

Patience for what? Not like we're currently building anything here unfortunately.


This is hilarious to me. He hasn't had a losing record in the conference in his 4 years here, but I guess everyone has forgotten how tough the acc is. Most coaches get chewed up and spit out by this conference. Let's put this into prospective, let's talk about our last four coaches in conference after 4 years.
Herb- never finished 500 in conference:
Sid- never finished above 6-10
Gott- All at or over 500 seasons (lucky to get in the tournament 2 of the 4 times) Last team in twice.
Keatts- All at or over 500. (Unlucky with tournament 2 years) would have made the tournament in 2020 and should have made it in 2019 if it weren't for the UNC narrative.

Let's see if Kevin's year 5 and 6 looks like the Gott man or if he can turn the corner like Herb did in year six. I really feel like KK is on the edge of something great. I think if he can keep coach Mike here we can build something huge here. Keatts can truly identify talent. So many of the guys we were close on have been nba players (Bey, Pat Williams, Hall, leque) He clearly can spot good players early, we just have to get one of campus. This team will be really good this year, just a gut feeling

I understand what you're saying, but there's a few questions I have. How can you attribute luck to gottfried but unlucky to Keatts? The facts are the facts. Keatts has made the tournament 1 time, and things don't look good for him making it this year (on paper). Gott was better than that, tourney wise.

And how do you see keatts on the verge of something great? I see us on the verge of perennial .500 ball. We recruit like a mid major, and our in game coaching is weak. Where do you see the breakthrough coming if we can't land any single impact recruit?
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ClePack said:

Jaywolf27 said:

ClePack said:

Acb0110 said:

ClePack said:

WolfpackSI said:

ClePack said:

Keatts the the worst recruiter we've had here in a long, long time.
Where did those superior recruiters get us?
About the same place, I guess. Although we did make the tournament more than once.


Once in 2 years. The past two years had a canceled tourney and then short offseason. I believe guns and roses said it best.. Have a little patience.

Patience for what? Not like we're currently building anything here unfortunately.


This is hilarious to me. He hasn't had a losing record in the conference in his 4 years here, but I guess everyone has forgotten how tough the acc is. Most coaches get chewed up and spit out by this conference. Let's put this into prospective, let's talk about our last four coaches in conference after 4 years.
Herb- never finished 500 in conference:
Sid- never finished above 6-10
Gott- All at or over 500 seasons (lucky to get in the tournament 2 of the 4 times) Last team in twice.
Keatts- All at or over 500. (Unlucky with tournament 2 years) would have made the tournament in 2020 and should have made it in 2019 if it weren't for the UNC narrative.

Let's see if Kevin's year 5 and 6 looks like the Gott man or if he can turn the corner like Herb did in year six. I really feel like KK is on the edge of something great. I think if he can keep coach Mike here we can build something huge here. Keatts can truly identify talent. So many of the guys we were close on have been nba players (Bey, Pat Williams, Hall, leque) He clearly can spot good players early, we just have to get one of campus. This team will be really good this year, just a gut feeling

I understand what you're saying, but there's a few questions I have. How can you attribute luck to gottfried but unlucky to Keatts? The facts are the facts. Keatts has made the tournament 1 time, and things don't look good for him making it this year (on paper). Gott was better than that, tourney wise.

And how do you see keatts on the verge of something great? I see us on the verge of perennial .500 ball. We recruit like a mid major, and our in game coaching is weak. Where do you see the breakthrough coming if we can't land any single impact recruit?

Mid majors don't recruit in the top 25-40 it just doesn't happen
Bulldogwolf27
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ClePack said:

Jaywolf27 said:

ClePack said:

Acb0110 said:

ClePack said:

WolfpackSI said:

ClePack said:

Keatts the the worst recruiter we've had here in a long, long time.
Where did those superior recruiters get us?
About the same place, I guess. Although we did make the tournament more than once.


Once in 2 years. The past two years had a canceled tourney and then short offseason. I believe guns and roses said it best.. Have a little patience.

Patience for what? Not like we're currently building anything here unfortunately.


This is hilarious to me. He hasn't had a losing record in the conference in his 4 years here, but I guess everyone has forgotten how tough the acc is. Most coaches get chewed up and spit out by this conference. Let's put this into prospective, let's talk about our last four coaches in conference after 4 years.
Herb- never finished 500 in conference:
Sid- never finished above 6-10
Gott- All at or over 500 seasons (lucky to get in the tournament 2 of the 4 times) Last team in twice.
Keatts- All at or over 500. (Unlucky with tournament 2 years) would have made the tournament in 2020 and should have made it in 2019 if it weren't for the UNC narrative.

Let's see if Kevin's year 5 and 6 looks like the Gott man or if he can turn the corner like Herb did in year six. I really feel like KK is on the edge of something great. I think if he can keep coach Mike here we can build something huge here. Keatts can truly identify talent. So many of the guys we were close on have been nba players (Bey, Pat Williams, Hall, leque) He clearly can spot good players early, we just have to get one of campus. This team will be really good this year, just a gut feeling

I understand what you're saying, but there's a few questions I have. How can you attribute luck to gottfried but unlucky to Keatts? The facts are the facts. Keatts has made the tournament 1 time, and things don't look good for him making it this year (on paper). Gott was better than that, tourney wise.

And how do you see keatts on the verge of something great? I see us on the verge of perennial .500 ball. We recruit like a mid major, and our in game coaching is weak. Where do you see the breakthrough coming if we can't land any single impact recruit?

The reason why I feel like he's going to break through is simple, our two best players are 4th year Guys in Manny and Cole. I feel each of them will take a good leap in improvement and they were our two best players down the stretch last year. Two, Cam will be our no questions asked point guard. With a full offense and his muscle gain he should be able to finish in the lane at a higher level to go with his elite mid range jumper. Third, I feel we have appropriate depth this year and more versatile of positions. Lastly, Baby T feels like he's going to be Keatts' Julius Hodge. That kid is vastly underrated as a recruit and he is the type of leader you don't see in this day and age. He might only average 8-10 points per game, but his energy and intensity will win us a game or two we shouldn't win.
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Jaywolf27 said:

ClePack said:

Jaywolf27 said:

ClePack said:

Acb0110 said:

ClePack said:

WolfpackSI said:

ClePack said:

Keatts the the worst recruiter we've had here in a long, long time.
Where did those superior recruiters get us?
About the same place, I guess. Although we did make the tournament more than once.


Once in 2 years. The past two years had a canceled tourney and then short offseason. I believe guns and roses said it best.. Have a little patience.

Patience for what? Not like we're currently building anything here unfortunately.


This is hilarious to me. He hasn't had a losing record in the conference in his 4 years here, but I guess everyone has forgotten how tough the acc is. Most coaches get chewed up and spit out by this conference. Let's put this into prospective, let's talk about our last four coaches in conference after 4 years.
Herb- never finished 500 in conference:
Sid- never finished above 6-10
Gott- All at or over 500 seasons (lucky to get in the tournament 2 of the 4 times) Last team in twice.
Keatts- All at or over 500. (Unlucky with tournament 2 years) would have made the tournament in 2020 and should have made it in 2019 if it weren't for the UNC narrative.

Let's see if Kevin's year 5 and 6 looks like the Gott man or if he can turn the corner like Herb did in year six. I really feel like KK is on the edge of something great. I think if he can keep coach Mike here we can build something huge here. Keatts can truly identify talent. So many of the guys we were close on have been nba players (Bey, Pat Williams, Hall, leque) He clearly can spot good players early, we just have to get one of campus. This team will be really good this year, just a gut feeling

I understand what you're saying, but there's a few questions I have. How can you attribute luck to gottfried but unlucky to Keatts? The facts are the facts. Keatts has made the tournament 1 time, and things don't look good for him making it this year (on paper). Gott was better than that, tourney wise.

And how do you see keatts on the verge of something great? I see us on the verge of perennial .500 ball. We recruit like a mid major, and our in game coaching is weak. Where do you see the breakthrough coming if we can't land any single impact recruit?

The reason why I feel like he's going to break through is simple, our two best players are 4th year Guys in Manny and Cole. I feel each of them will take a good leap in improvement and they were our two best players down the stretch last year. Two, Cam will be our no questions asked point guard. With a full offense and his muscle gain he should be able to finish in the lane at a higher level to go with his elite mid range jumper. Third, I feel we have appropriate depth this year and more versatile of positions. Lastly, Baby T feels like he's going to be Keatts' Julius Hodge. That kid is vastly underrated as a recruit and he is the type of leader you don't see in this day and age. He might only average 8-10 points per game, but his energy and intensity will win us a game or two we shouldn't win.

I tell you baby t will be Trevor Lacey, maybe not this year but sophomore year
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A guy I'm starting to really like is Ezra Ausar. Under recruited and just transferred to liberty heights. Definitely not a small forward like his recruiting profile suggests but a 6'8 230 athletic freak of a power forward. Reminds me a lot of Montrez Harrell and Devontae cacok.
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Where do we stand with LJ Thomas? He commits tomorrow
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ClePack said:

Jaywolf27 said:

ClePack said:

Acb0110 said:

ClePack said:

WolfpackSI said:

ClePack said:

Keatts the the worst recruiter we've had here in a long, long time.
Where did those superior recruiters get us?
About the same place, I guess. Although we did make the tournament more than once.


Once in 2 years. The past two years had a canceled tourney and then short offseason. I believe guns and roses said it best.. Have a little patience.

Patience for what? Not like we're currently building anything here unfortunately.


This is hilarious to me. He hasn't had a losing record in the conference in his 4 years here, but I guess everyone has forgotten how tough the acc is. Most coaches get chewed up and spit out by this conference. Let's put this into prospective, let's talk about our last four coaches in conference after 4 years.
Herb- never finished 500 in conference:
Sid- never finished above 6-10
Gott- All at or over 500 seasons (lucky to get in the tournament 2 of the 4 times) Last team in twice.
Keatts- All at or over 500. (Unlucky with tournament 2 years) would have made the tournament in 2020 and should have made it in 2019 if it weren't for the UNC narrative.

Let's see if Kevin's year 5 and 6 looks like the Gott man or if he can turn the corner like Herb did in year six. I really feel like KK is on the edge of something great. I think if he can keep coach Mike here we can build something huge here. Keatts can truly identify talent. So many of the guys we were close on have been nba players (Bey, Pat Williams, Hall, leque) He clearly can spot good players early, we just have to get one of campus. This team will be really good this year, just a gut feeling

I understand what you're saying, but there's a few questions I have. How can you attribute luck to gottfried but unlucky to Keatts? The facts are the facts. Keatts has made the tournament 1 time, and things don't look good for him making it this year (on paper). Gott was better than that, tourney wise.

And how do you see keatts on the verge of something great? I see us on the verge of perennial .500 ball. We recruit like a mid major, and our in game coaching is weak. Where do you see the breakthrough coming if we can't land any single impact recruit?

We haven't played a game this season yet things don't look good for making the tournament? I think we have a very talented team this season.
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Jett Howard commiting 10-13. Definitely Michigan but I did notice that two people removed their crystal ball
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Greg Glenn commits to Michigan making them have no scholarships, doesn't really matter though he'll find a scholarship for hett
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Even if Howard somehow doesn't go to Michigan I don't think the pick will be state. I think it would be tennessee
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Griffen says will take one more visit and then commit
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LJ Thomas got a crystal ball to NC State
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justinxxll said:

LJ Thomas got a crystal ball to NC State

Once said he was better than Epps, just don't see the need in a ball handler this class
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Lj Thomas can do it all offensively. Very similar to baby t or cam Thomas in his swagger and killer ability score. Also has their deficits defensively
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justinxxll said:

LJ Thomas got a crystal ball to NC State
11/18.


gulp.
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RDUwolfpack said:

justinxxll said:

LJ Thomas got a crystal ball to NC State
11/18.


gulp.
If it makes you feel any better a 2nd one was put in
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RDUwolfpack said:

justinxxll said:

LJ Thomas got a crystal ball to NC State
11/18.


gulp.

Another one from Cory. Give Cory all the shot you want but he cares about that % so if it's this late then he's sure
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Packfan8 said:

RDUwolfpack said:

justinxxll said:

LJ Thomas got a crystal ball to NC State
11/18.


gulp.

Another one from Cory. Give Cory all the shot you want but he cares about that % so if it's this late then he's sure


He didn't care very much for me calling him out on changing them.
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nryanh94 said:

Packfan8 said:

RDUwolfpack said:

justinxxll said:

LJ Thomas got a crystal ball to NC State
11/18.


gulp.

Another one from Cory. Give Cory all the shot you want but he cares about that % so if it's this late then he's sure


He didn't care very much for me calling him out on changing them.
I really don't like Cory either but recruitments change and he's not just gonna keep his pick the same when momentum shifts on a player
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justinxxll said:

nryanh94 said:

Packfan8 said:

RDUwolfpack said:

justinxxll said:

LJ Thomas got a crystal ball to NC State
11/18.


gulp.

Another one from Cory. Give Cory all the shot you want but he cares about that % so if it's this late then he's sure


He didn't care very much for me calling him out on changing them.
I really don't like Cory either but recruitments change and he's not just gonna keep his pick the same when momentum shifts on a player


Then don't put one in to begin with . My gripe is constantly going in and changing it once it's been decided where the kid is going, that's just cheap and you're making it look like you're more accurate than you are. I notice people on other boards aren't so quick to do it.
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nryanh94 said:

justinxxll said:

nryanh94 said:

Packfan8 said:

RDUwolfpack said:

justinxxll said:

LJ Thomas got a crystal ball to NC State
11/18.


gulp.

Another one from Cory. Give Cory all the shot you want but he cares about that % so if it's this late then he's sure


He didn't care very much for me calling him out on changing them.
I really don't like Cory either but recruitments change and he's not just gonna keep his pick the same when momentum shifts on a player


Then don't put one in to begin with . My gripe is constantly going in and changing it once it's been decided where the kid is going, that's just cheap and you're making it look like you're more accurate than you are. I notice people on other boards aren't so quick to do it.
His reaction was weak af. Just own it and move on. Everyone that pays an ounce of attention knows those "balls" are BS. He's got his nickname for a very good reason. Good kid, means well but is soft as charmin.
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CLTWolf said:

nryanh94 said:

justinxxll said:

nryanh94 said:

Packfan8 said:

RDUwolfpack said:

justinxxll said:

LJ Thomas got a crystal ball to NC State
11/18.


gulp.

Another one from Cory. Give Cory all the shot you want but he cares about that % so if it's this late then he's sure


He didn't care very much for me calling him out on changing them.
I really don't like Cory either but recruitments change and he's not just gonna keep his pick the same when momentum shifts on a player


Then don't put one in to begin with . My gripe is constantly going in and changing it once it's been decided where the kid is going, that's just cheap and you're making it look like you're more accurate than you are. I notice people on other boards aren't so quick to do it.
His reaction was weak af. Just own it and move on. Everyone that pays an ounce of attention knows those "balls" are BS. He's got his nickname for a very good reason. Good kid, means well but is soft as charmin.


Yeah, blaming a 17 year old for changing his mind was kinda funny lol
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I just ended my scription' there. I just couldn't take the weeding through trolls and morons downing Keatts just to find info. At the end of the day, I just want information. I could care less about people's opinions, sorry.
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Mountainman97 said:

I just ended my scription' there. I just couldn't take the weeding through trolls and morons downing Keatts just to find info. At the end of the day, I just want information. I could care less about people's opinions, sorry.

Ended mine a long time ago, for some reason everyone is usual pretty reasonable on this site compared to pp. obviously we all like to rant sometimes especially when we miss out on a recruit, but dang there are some cry babies that just like to argue for no reason. Anyway I think LJ Thomas will be good for us in the future. You can always assume some attrition, whether that he pro or portal and his game just translates to college immediately. He's not a guy who needs to add muscle to get playing time he just needs experience which will come
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Pass, Thomas, & Smith is a lot of shooting/scoring in our future lineups
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gopack_83 said:

Pass, Thomas, & Smith is a lot of shooting/scoring in our future lineups
that's a killer scoring lineup. Only issue is, who are they stopping in the acc lol.
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Packfan8 said:

gopack_83 said:

Pass, Thomas, & Smith is a lot of shooting/scoring in our future lineups
that's a killer scoring lineup. Only issue is, who are they stopping in the acc lol.


I'm hoping Pass can be an above average defender due to his football background & athleticism. For Smith, I know he's active in the passing lanes. For him it's going to be about adding strength and I think that'll help him. Not sure how Thomas is defensively
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