What can we expect out of seabron and taylor?

nryanh94 said:

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Think he may be hard to pry away from Pitt.

MarOdoxPhoenician7 said:

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What can we expect out of seabron and taylor?

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no clue. They are wildcards, IMO. Could see one of them break into the rotation or maybe not. Seabron has, IMO, some potential as a slashing wing/scorer with Taylor having a better shot and maybe more of a stretch 4 on our team.

Very interested to see how this class develops without the 'big name' recruits

Dunlow66 said:

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nryanh94 said:

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Think he may be hard to pry away from Pitt.

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I dunno man, he seems like a kid that is easily wowed by any and every school he visits. Which is understandable. And that's just a guess on my part. He's liable to sign with the last school he visits.

PicklePacker said:

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Dunlow66 said:

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nryanh94 said:

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Think he may be hard to pry away from Pitt.

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I dunno man, he seems like a kid that is easily wowed by any and every school he visits. Which is understandable. And that's just a guess on my part. He's liable to sign with the last school he visits.

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He has been to PItt more than all other schools combined. I'm not saying he is a lock, just that Pitt was considered to be way ahead of everyone else on this one up until his OV to NC State. I'm not so sure Hugley liked State as much as his highschool coach does. JMO

I know State has had its share of kids visit numerous times & have been recruiting longer than any other school & the kid ends up going somewhere else. So maybe that won't matter it Hugleys decision.

I know with duke getting Johnson, Roach, Steward, & more likely adding Coleman & Williams. Then with unc getting Sharpe, Kessler, & looking like Love as well Keatts better start getting this strong recruiting thing going he was known for. He has done a pretty good job so far with getting Allen, Hayes, & Farrar so far, but he has got to start reeling in at least one or 2 big fish if State is gonna compete with K & ole Roy.

If we could get a commit from Wheeler in 2021, I would be just fine with NC State missing on their current post recruits and finding a PostGrad if we need more depth for one year.

Wheeler is the kind of kid that should trive in our system. Shotblocker, Rebounder, long and lean, can run the court in burst, teachable, high ceiling,

If nothing else, he could be Manny's backup for a coulple of years. I think he is further advanced at his age than Manny was as a HS senior, so he is already a year ahead of schedule as far as development.

Struttingwolf96 said:

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I know with duke getting Johnson, Roach, Steward, & more likely adding Coleman & Williams. Then with unc getting Sharpe, Kessler, & looking like Love as well Keatts better start getting this strong recruiting thing going he was known for. He has done a pretty good job so far with getting Allen, Hayes, & Farrar so far, but he has got to start reeling in at least one or 2 big fish if State is gonna compete with K & ole Roy.

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Every team in the Nation wishes they could recruit like Duke and UNC.


Come on man. Unless you want to buy recruts, a team like State is not going to suddenly start crushing it with 5 star kids. Maybe if we hire a 'Dad' or 'brother' we'd get one or two but what else are we going to do.

We still have NCAA issues. Let Keatts show what he can do with what he gets. We are not eating from the same table as UNC and Duke when it comes to recruiting right now, no matter how much you ***** and moan and complain about it.

Dunlow66 said:

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If we could get a commit from Wheeler in 2021, I would be just fine with NC State missing on their current post recruits and finding a PostGrad if we need more depth for one year.

Wheeler is the kind of kid that should trive in our system. Shotblocker, Rebounder, long and lean, can run the court in burst, teachable, high ceiling,

If nothing else, he could be Manny's backup for a coulple of years. I think he is further advanced at his age than Manny was as a HS senior, so he is already a year ahead of schedule as far as development.

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I agree, love his game and upside.

I'd hope we can add Hall or Ambrose, and then fill the final spot with a post grad big.

Follow that up with Wheeler, T Smith, and some combo of Whitt, Styles, Michael or Mcdonals

Dunlow66 said:

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If we could get a commit from Wheeler in 2021, I would be just fine with NC State missing on their current post recruits and finding a PostGrad if we need more depth for one year.

Wheeler is the kind of kid that should trive in our system. Shotblocker, Rebounder, long and lean, can run the court in burst, teachable, high ceiling,

If nothing else, he could be Manny's backup for a coulple of years. I think he is further advanced at his age than Manny was as a HS senior, so he is already a year ahead of schedule as far as development.

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how do we stand with Wheeler? Do you think we could get an early commit?

Dunlow66 said:

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If we could get a commit from Wheeler in 2021, I would be just fine with NC State missing on their current post recruits and finding a PostGrad if we need more depth for one year.

Wheeler is the kind of kid that should trive in our system. Shotblocker, Rebounder, long and lean, can run the court in burst, teachable, high ceiling,

If nothing else, he could be Manny's backup for a coulple of years. I think he is further advanced at his age than Manny was as a HS senior, so he is already a year ahead of schedule as far as development.

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I'm in the same boat. If Wheeler were to commit, get a more offensive minded grad transfer big. Then have a 3 man rotation of DJ, Bates and Wheeler next year.

I just hope Keatts didn't just do with Wheeler like he did with Cam Thomas, have him take his OV very early, not commit during the visit, & then slowly fade off State's radar. Let's hope Wheelers recruitment turns out for the better this time.

I'm not saying bring in a bunch of 5* kids & McDAA's, don't want a bunch of kids like that. I said just ONE or TWO, if that's asking to much then sorry. The way it's looking now Keatts is having trouble bringing in Top 50 like recruits. Believe Hayes is his first one in the top 50, right? I really like Keatts, just hope he turns it up a notch bringing guys in.

Struttingwolf96 said:

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I just hope Keatts didn't just do with Wheeler like he did with Cam Thomas, have him take his OV very early, not commit during the visit, & then slowly fade off State's radar. Let's hope Wheelers recruitment turns out for the better this time.

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So Keatts waits "too long" and you complain....then he brings guys in "early" for OV and you still complain....dang man, you are some kind of special

Struttingwolf96 said:

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I just hope Keatts didn't just do with Wheeler like he did with Cam Thomas, have him take his OV very early, not commit during the visit, & then slowly fade off State's radar. Let's hope Wheelers recruitment turns out for the better this time.

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I didn't know this, but per TOS apparently kids are give 5 OVs per year, so he could OV here now as a Jr and then again as a Sr

Struttingwolf96 said:

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I just hope Keatts didn't just do with Wheeler like he did with Cam Thomas, have him take his OV very early, not commit during the visit, & then slowly fade off State's radar. Let's hope Wheelers recruitment turns out for the better this time.

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Wheeler gets 5 as a junior, 5 as a senior and he can revisit.

New rule.

ge_traveler said:

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Struttingwolf96 said:

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I just hope Keatts didn't just do with Wheeler like he did with Cam Thomas, have him take his OV very early, not commit during the visit, & then slowly fade off State's radar. Let's hope Wheelers recruitment turns out for the better this time.

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So Keatts waits "too long" and you complain....then he brings guys in "early" for OV and you still complain....dang man, you are some kind of special

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The classic Damned if you do......scenario


Nothing short of UNC/DUKE recruiting will be enough,.

Early as in a rising Junior, I could see if Wheeler was a rising Senior. Bringing a kid in for an OFFICIAL visit before a kid is a Senior doesn't seem to work in the schools favor most of the time, could see if it was unofficial.

Ok, I stand corrected. I didn't know about that new rule, thought it could only be visit one time for an official. Thanks for letting me know.

With the new rule in place with official visits do you know if Keatts tried to get Cam Thomas to come back & he just wasnt interested, or did the staff not bother to try & get him back on campus again? He has a few visits left iirc.

Not recruiting related, but Funderburke is up to 238 lbs

nryanh94 said:

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Not recruiting related, but Funderburke is up to 238 lbs

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That's strong!! Excited to see what he can do this year. That kinda size with his offensive prowess bodes well.

That's good to hear, he knows he has go to be ready 2 bang down low some. Hope he still has that nice jump shot.

Just wondering where did this come from. I'm excited if this is true because it'll help him a lot. The official listing has him at 225 which is still 15 pounds heavier than last year

Packfan8 said:

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Just wondering where did this come from. I'm excited if this is true because it'll help him a lot. The official listing has him at 225 which is still 15 pounds heavier than last year

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He just posted him getting on a scale on his Instagram story and it reads 238.8

Struttingwolf96 said:

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Hellems looks strong in that video. I'm really excited about him. I could see a TJ Warren esq breakout from him at some point.

Seabron look pretty impressive to me.

Seabron playing point in that video against Harris

Louisville's class was looking promising weeks ago and now love has moved on. Smith is scheduling other visits (they might still lead), and the 2021 kid they were wanting to move up is now visiting Kentucky. And it looks like they might have messed up by bringing hall in too early but who knows

Not current recruiting related but I have to think this helps with NCAA. At least gives us a strong position to fight any potential sanctions.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/27699388/smith-jr-denies-being-paid-play-nc-state

I hope more of the fanbase can get back to giving DSJ more love. He could have easily said no to the on the record interview and left us out to dry.

"Nothing short of UNC/DUKE recruiting will be enough"

I'm not so interested in recruiting like them as being consistently competitive with them on the court. I have to think all of Statedom feels the same. They are the N.C. measuring sticks so it's hard not to compare and gauge whether we'll have the guys necessary based on who they're getting.

We don't need to worry about recruiting against the Cheats and Duke just yet. For now, we need to out recruit Louisville, Pitt, Va Tech, Wake, etc. KK establishes his program as a top third in the ACC program, then he can start setting his sights on the blue bloods.

I'm with Dunlow. I think it could be a blessing in disguise that Hall's visit got postponed. He's not close to deciding. My hope is that we're kinda the ace in the hole for Hall. He can enjoy visiting these other schools out of state but in the end he and more importantly his dad knows he's got a great situation right here in his back yard. I'd be shocked if he ventures outside of the ACC. And I'll be surprised if he goes somewhere where his family can't see him play every home game. His dad is with him at every single event. I don't see that changing.