It's called "gaslighting". They're spreading disinformation in a desperate attempt to win NC, no matter the human costs to their own people. So of course with a straight face they have to insist that it's you doing that.Civilized said:Gulfstream4 said:
Need to give democrats credit. They are about winning no matter the human cost.
What does this even mean?
SmaptyWolf said:It's called "gaslighting". They're spreading disinformation in a desperate attempt to win NC, no matter the human costs to their own people. So of course with a straight face they have to insist that it's you doing that.Civilized said:Gulfstream4 said:
Need to give democrats credit. They are about winning no matter the human cost.
What does this even mean?
MAGA truly has brought Soviet-style politics to America. Up is down, and you're the enemy if you say otherwise.
Civilized said:SmaptyWolf said:It's called "gaslighting". They're spreading disinformation in a desperate attempt to win NC, no matter the human costs to their own people. So of course with a straight face they have to insist that it's you doing that.Civilized said:Gulfstream4 said:
Need to give democrats credit. They are about winning no matter the human cost.
What does this even mean?
MAGA truly has brought Soviet-style politics to America. Up is down, and you're the enemy if you say otherwise.
I just couldn't figure out how deep the gaslighting was running.
Were we talking "importing illegals to vote" normal Tuesday gaslighting or "the government altered the weather and steered a catastrophic hurricane to run roughshod over a swath of red counties" MTG-level-lunacy gaslighting?
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Civ and Smaptass say stop exaggerating and fearmongering...Jtbridges317 said:
I can tell you this, I was there this weekend in West Jefferson, NC specifically Lansing and Crumpler, NC.
This is a war zone with no assistance at all. FEMA assistance from 10am to 1 pm.
I saw cars in trees, horse trailers washed up hills, bridges collapsed, homes that have floated 300 yards off of there foundation.
The worst part about all of this, is that Ashe county has one of the highest rates of suicide in the entire country prior to this storm, and it's only going to get worse. People have lost everything, there homes, loved ones, personal belongings, etc. EVERYTHING. I helped a women sort through her shed to see if there was anything worth keeping while her grand children wept because all of there child hood belongings and photos were destroyed.
We helped another man whose 8 ft ceiling basement filled up with water, all the way to the living space upstairs to where there was another 3 feet of water. His home that has been in his family since 1875 is gone. We were specifically told that he may be one of the folks that we lose over the next few weeks.
These folks are struggling, which I know everyone is aware, but it's way worse than anyone can imagine.
Thanks for going up there to assist. That's where my friends are as well. Saying the same thing. But, a few mouth pieces on this board swear there's assistance everywhere and just like Biden said last week, they're good, have everything they need!Jtbridges317 said:
I can tell you this, I was there this weekend in West Jefferson, NC specifically Lansing and Crumpler, NC.
This is a war zone with no assistance at all. FEMA assistance from 10am to 1 pm.
I saw cars in trees, horse trailers washed up hills, bridges collapsed, homes that have floated 300 yards off of there foundation.
The worst part about all of this, is that Ashe county has one of the highest rates of suicide in the entire country prior to this storm, and it's only going to get worse. People have lost everything, there homes, loved ones, personal belongings, etc. EVERYTHING. I helped a women sort through her shed to see if there was anything worth keeping while her grand children wept because all of there child hood belongings and photos were destroyed.
We helped another man whose 8 ft ceiling basement filled up with water, all the way to the living space upstairs to where there was another 3 feet of water. His home that has been in his family since 1875 is gone. We were specifically told that he may be one of the folks that we lose over the next few weeks.
These folks are struggling, which I know everyone is aware, but it's way worse than anyone can imagine.
I think it's NewsMax that will periodically check in with him for interview.NCSUBill said:
Does anyone know if Tommy Burleson and his family are OK? Also, do we know if there is an effort b underway to help all students whose families are affected by this tragedy?
TheStorm said:Civ and Smaptass say stop exaggerating and fearmongering...Jtbridges317 said:
I can tell you this, I was there this weekend in West Jefferson, NC specifically Lansing and Crumpler, NC.
This is a war zone with no assistance at all. FEMA assistance from 10am to 1 pm.
I saw cars in trees, horse trailers washed up hills, bridges collapsed, homes that have floated 300 yards off of there foundation.
The worst part about all of this, is that Ashe county has one of the highest rates of suicide in the entire country prior to this storm, and it's only going to get worse. People have lost everything, there homes, loved ones, personal belongings, etc. EVERYTHING. I helped a women sort through her shed to see if there was anything worth keeping while her grand children wept because all of there child hood belongings and photos were destroyed.
We helped another man whose 8 ft ceiling basement filled up with water, all the way to the living space upstairs to where there was another 3 feet of water. His home that has been in his family since 1875 is gone. We were specifically told that he may be one of the folks that we lose over the next few weeks.
These folks are struggling, which I know everyone is aware, but it's way worse than anyone can imagine.
Oh. and gaslighting!
I'm confused. Are you saying there was no assistance at all? Or are you saying that FEMA was there from 10am to 1pm, presumably making sure everyone had supplies?Jtbridges317 said:
I can tell you this, I was there this weekend in West Jefferson, NC specifically Lansing and Crumpler, NC.
This is a war zone with no assistance at all. FEMA assistance from 10am to 1 pm.
I saw cars in trees, horse trailers washed up hills, bridges collapsed, homes that have floated 300 yards off of there foundation.
The worst part about all of this, is that Ashe county has one of the highest rates of suicide in the entire country prior to this storm, and it's only going to get worse. People have lost everything, there homes, loved ones, personal belongings, etc. EVERYTHING. I helped a women sort through her shed to see if there was anything worth keeping while her grand children wept because all of there child hood belongings and photos were destroyed.
We helped another man whose 8 ft ceiling basement filled up with water, all the way to the living space upstairs to where there was another 3 feet of water. His home that has been in his family since 1875 is gone. We were specifically told that he may be one of the folks that we lose over the next few weeks.
These folks are struggling, which I know everyone is aware, but it's way worse than anyone can imagine.
One, it doesn't surprise me that that's the only thing you picked up on in the entire post, being you're here to score political points.SmaptyWolf said:I'm confused. Are you saying there was no assistance at all? Or are you saying that FEMA was there from 10am to 1pm, presumably making sure everyone had supplies?Jtbridges317 said:
I can tell you this, I was there this weekend in West Jefferson, NC specifically Lansing and Crumpler, NC.
This is a war zone with no assistance at all. FEMA assistance from 10am to 1 pm.
I saw cars in trees, horse trailers washed up hills, bridges collapsed, homes that have floated 300 yards off of there foundation.
The worst part about all of this, is that Ashe county has one of the highest rates of suicide in the entire country prior to this storm, and it's only going to get worse. People have lost everything, there homes, loved ones, personal belongings, etc. EVERYTHING. I helped a women sort through her shed to see if there was anything worth keeping while her grand children wept because all of there child hood belongings and photos were destroyed.
We helped another man whose 8 ft ceiling basement filled up with water, all the way to the living space upstairs to where there was another 3 feet of water. His home that has been in his family since 1875 is gone. We were specifically told that he may be one of the folks that we lose over the next few weeks.
These folks are struggling, which I know everyone is aware, but it's way worse than anyone can imagine.
Civilized said:TheStorm said:Civ and Smaptass say stop exaggerating and fearmongering...Jtbridges317 said:
I can tell you this, I was there this weekend in West Jefferson, NC specifically Lansing and Crumpler, NC.
This is a war zone with no assistance at all. FEMA assistance from 10am to 1 pm.
I saw cars in trees, horse trailers washed up hills, bridges collapsed, homes that have floated 300 yards off of there foundation.
The worst part about all of this, is that Ashe county has one of the highest rates of suicide in the entire country prior to this storm, and it's only going to get worse. People have lost everything, there homes, loved ones, personal belongings, etc. EVERYTHING. I helped a women sort through her shed to see if there was anything worth keeping while her grand children wept because all of there child hood belongings and photos were destroyed.
We helped another man whose 8 ft ceiling basement filled up with water, all the way to the living space upstairs to where there was another 3 feet of water. His home that has been in his family since 1875 is gone. We were specifically told that he may be one of the folks that we lose over the next few weeks.
These folks are struggling, which I know everyone is aware, but it's way worse than anyone can imagine.
Oh. and gaslighting!
Go show me where I said that, or anything close.
griff17matt said:Civilized said:TheStorm said:Civ and Smaptass say stop exaggerating and fearmongering...Jtbridges317 said:
I can tell you this, I was there this weekend in West Jefferson, NC specifically Lansing and Crumpler, NC.
This is a war zone with no assistance at all. FEMA assistance from 10am to 1 pm.
I saw cars in trees, horse trailers washed up hills, bridges collapsed, homes that have floated 300 yards off of there foundation.
The worst part about all of this, is that Ashe county has one of the highest rates of suicide in the entire country prior to this storm, and it's only going to get worse. People have lost everything, there homes, loved ones, personal belongings, etc. EVERYTHING. I helped a women sort through her shed to see if there was anything worth keeping while her grand children wept because all of there child hood belongings and photos were destroyed.
We helped another man whose 8 ft ceiling basement filled up with water, all the way to the living space upstairs to where there was another 3 feet of water. His home that has been in his family since 1875 is gone. We were specifically told that he may be one of the folks that we lose over the next few weeks.
These folks are struggling, which I know everyone is aware, but it's way worse than anyone can imagine.
Oh. and gaslighting!
Go show me where I said that, or anything close.
Is this you, like 15 posts up?
Jtbridges317 said:One, it doesn't surprise me that that's the only thing you picked up on in the entire post, being you're here to score political points.SmaptyWolf said:I'm confused. Are you saying there was no assistance at all? Or are you saying that FEMA was there from 10am to 1pm, presumably making sure everyone had supplies?Jtbridges317 said:
I can tell you this, I was there this weekend in West Jefferson, NC specifically Lansing and Crumpler, NC.
This is a war zone with no assistance at all. FEMA assistance from 10am to 1 pm.
I saw cars in trees, horse trailers washed up hills, bridges collapsed, homes that have floated 300 yards off of there foundation.
The worst part about all of this, is that Ashe county has one of the highest rates of suicide in the entire country prior to this storm, and it's only going to get worse. People have lost everything, there homes, loved ones, personal belongings, etc. EVERYTHING. I helped a women sort through her shed to see if there was anything worth keeping while her grand children wept because all of there child hood belongings and photos were destroyed.
We helped another man whose 8 ft ceiling basement filled up with water, all the way to the living space upstairs to where there was another 3 feet of water. His home that has been in his family since 1875 is gone. We were specifically told that he may be one of the folks that we lose over the next few weeks.
These folks are struggling, which I know everyone is aware, but it's way worse than anyone can imagine.
Second, considering the tragedy that happened and the scope of the damage, 10am to 1pm is a joke all things considered. Speak to the locals up there yourself, there is no help
DHS guy literally said they don't have enough money for hurricane season. The reason being they love to fund illegal immigrants and oops, it's hurricane season and taxpayers need help. FEMA running out of money because of the illegal immigrants isn't gaslighting, it's facts.Civilized said:griff17matt said:Civilized said:TheStorm said:Civ and Smaptass say stop exaggerating and fearmongering...Jtbridges317 said:
I can tell you this, I was there this weekend in West Jefferson, NC specifically Lansing and Crumpler, NC.
This is a war zone with no assistance at all. FEMA assistance from 10am to 1 pm.
I saw cars in trees, horse trailers washed up hills, bridges collapsed, homes that have floated 300 yards off of there foundation.
The worst part about all of this, is that Ashe county has one of the highest rates of suicide in the entire country prior to this storm, and it's only going to get worse. People have lost everything, there homes, loved ones, personal belongings, etc. EVERYTHING. I helped a women sort through her shed to see if there was anything worth keeping while her grand children wept because all of there child hood belongings and photos were destroyed.
We helped another man whose 8 ft ceiling basement filled up with water, all the way to the living space upstairs to where there was another 3 feet of water. His home that has been in his family since 1875 is gone. We were specifically told that he may be one of the folks that we lose over the next few weeks.
These folks are struggling, which I know everyone is aware, but it's way worse than anyone can imagine.
Oh. and gaslighting!
Go show me where I said that, or anything close.
Is this you, like 15 posts up?
Storm's clear implication is that I said the devastation in WNC was exaggerated.
I've had family from Black Mountain staying with us off and on over the last two weeks since the storm. One of them stayed in Black Mountain to volunteer and help navigate for aid workers. He's seen Swannanoa and Montreat up close. He's good friends with the landscape/hardware supply shop owner in Black Mountain that's supplied generators to the morgue and the flex warehouse space they're using as a temporary morgue. I know exactly how bad it is.
My beef on this thread has been the bull**** gaslighting about FEMA money being diverted for immigrants and the government withholding aid intentionally from red counties and the government controlling the weather and somehow directing a hurricane to obliterate WNC.
I've never said or implied that the devastation in WNC wasn't as described; exactly the opposite, in fact.
No, the "facts" is that you're an idiot who doesn't know how FEMA works.wolf howl said:DHS guy literally said they don't have enough money for hurricane season. The reason being they love to fund illegal immigrants and oops, it's hurricane season and taxpayers need help. FEMA running out of money because of the illegal immigrants isn't gaslighting, it's facts.Civilized said:griff17matt said:Civilized said:TheStorm said:Civ and Smaptass say stop exaggerating and fearmongering...Jtbridges317 said:
I can tell you this, I was there this weekend in West Jefferson, NC specifically Lansing and Crumpler, NC.
This is a war zone with no assistance at all. FEMA assistance from 10am to 1 pm.
I saw cars in trees, horse trailers washed up hills, bridges collapsed, homes that have floated 300 yards off of there foundation.
The worst part about all of this, is that Ashe county has one of the highest rates of suicide in the entire country prior to this storm, and it's only going to get worse. People have lost everything, there homes, loved ones, personal belongings, etc. EVERYTHING. I helped a women sort through her shed to see if there was anything worth keeping while her grand children wept because all of there child hood belongings and photos were destroyed.
We helped another man whose 8 ft ceiling basement filled up with water, all the way to the living space upstairs to where there was another 3 feet of water. His home that has been in his family since 1875 is gone. We were specifically told that he may be one of the folks that we lose over the next few weeks.
These folks are struggling, which I know everyone is aware, but it's way worse than anyone can imagine.
Oh. and gaslighting!
Go show me where I said that, or anything close.
Is this you, like 15 posts up?
Storm's clear implication is that I said the devastation in WNC was exaggerated.
I've had family from Black Mountain staying with us off and on over the last two weeks since the storm. One of them stayed in Black Mountain to volunteer and help navigate for aid workers. He's seen Swannanoa and Montreat up close. He's good friends with the landscape/hardware supply shop owner in Black Mountain that's supplied generators to the morgue and the flex warehouse space they're using as a temporary morgue. I know exactly how bad it is.
My beef on this thread has been the bull**** gaslighting about FEMA money being diverted for immigrants and the government withholding aid intentionally from red counties and the government controlling the weather and somehow directing a hurricane to obliterate WNC.
I've never said or implied that the devastation in WNC wasn't as described; exactly the opposite, in fact.
wolf howl said:DHS guy literally said they don't have enough money for hurricane season. The reason being they love to fund illegal immigrants and oops, it's hurricane season and taxpayers need help. FEMA running out of money because of the illegal immigrants isn't gaslighting, it's facts.Civilized said:griff17matt said:Civilized said:TheStorm said:Civ and Smaptass say stop exaggerating and fearmongering...Jtbridges317 said:
I can tell you this, I was there this weekend in West Jefferson, NC specifically Lansing and Crumpler, NC.
This is a war zone with no assistance at all. FEMA assistance from 10am to 1 pm.
I saw cars in trees, horse trailers washed up hills, bridges collapsed, homes that have floated 300 yards off of there foundation.
The worst part about all of this, is that Ashe county has one of the highest rates of suicide in the entire country prior to this storm, and it's only going to get worse. People have lost everything, there homes, loved ones, personal belongings, etc. EVERYTHING. I helped a women sort through her shed to see if there was anything worth keeping while her grand children wept because all of there child hood belongings and photos were destroyed.
We helped another man whose 8 ft ceiling basement filled up with water, all the way to the living space upstairs to where there was another 3 feet of water. His home that has been in his family since 1875 is gone. We were specifically told that he may be one of the folks that we lose over the next few weeks.
These folks are struggling, which I know everyone is aware, but it's way worse than anyone can imagine.
Oh. and gaslighting!
Go show me where I said that, or anything close.
Is this you, like 15 posts up?
Storm's clear implication is that I said the devastation in WNC was exaggerated.
I've had family from Black Mountain staying with us off and on over the last two weeks since the storm. One of them stayed in Black Mountain to volunteer and help navigate for aid workers. He's seen Swannanoa and Montreat up close. He's good friends with the landscape/hardware supply shop owner in Black Mountain that's supplied generators to the morgue and the flex warehouse space they're using as a temporary morgue. I know exactly how bad it is.
My beef on this thread has been the bull**** gaslighting about FEMA money being diverted for immigrants and the government withholding aid intentionally from red counties and the government controlling the weather and somehow directing a hurricane to obliterate WNC.
I've never said or implied that the devastation in WNC wasn't as described; exactly the opposite, in fact.
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Civilized said:
LOL @ "potential non-citizens"
Make you a deal. I'll take the under, you take the over.
How much money we laying?
Civilized said:wolf howl said:DHS guy literally said they don't have enough money for hurricane season. The reason being they love to fund illegal immigrants and oops, it's hurricane season and taxpayers need help. FEMA running out of money because of the illegal immigrants isn't gaslighting, it's facts.Civilized said:griff17matt said:Civilized said:TheStorm said:Civ and Smaptass say stop exaggerating and fearmongering...Jtbridges317 said:
I can tell you this, I was there this weekend in West Jefferson, NC specifically Lansing and Crumpler, NC.
This is a war zone with no assistance at all. FEMA assistance from 10am to 1 pm.
I saw cars in trees, horse trailers washed up hills, bridges collapsed, homes that have floated 300 yards off of there foundation.
The worst part about all of this, is that Ashe county has one of the highest rates of suicide in the entire country prior to this storm, and it's only going to get worse. People have lost everything, there homes, loved ones, personal belongings, etc. EVERYTHING. I helped a women sort through her shed to see if there was anything worth keeping while her grand children wept because all of there child hood belongings and photos were destroyed.
We helped another man whose 8 ft ceiling basement filled up with water, all the way to the living space upstairs to where there was another 3 feet of water. His home that has been in his family since 1875 is gone. We were specifically told that he may be one of the folks that we lose over the next few weeks.
These folks are struggling, which I know everyone is aware, but it's way worse than anyone can imagine.
Oh. and gaslighting!
Go show me where I said that, or anything close.
Is this you, like 15 posts up?
Storm's clear implication is that I said the devastation in WNC was exaggerated.
I've had family from Black Mountain staying with us off and on over the last two weeks since the storm. One of them stayed in Black Mountain to volunteer and help navigate for aid workers. He's seen Swannanoa and Montreat up close. He's good friends with the landscape/hardware supply shop owner in Black Mountain that's supplied generators to the morgue and the flex warehouse space they're using as a temporary morgue. I know exactly how bad it is.
My beef on this thread has been the bull**** gaslighting about FEMA money being diverted for immigrants and the government withholding aid intentionally from red counties and the government controlling the weather and somehow directing a hurricane to obliterate WNC.
I've never said or implied that the devastation in WNC wasn't as described; exactly the opposite, in fact.
It's not facts, it's fantasy.— Jean Valjean (@JeanValjeanLA) October 8, 2024
SmaptyWolf said:No, the "facts" is that you're an idiot who doesn't know how FEMA works.wolf howl said:DHS guy literally said they don't have enough money for hurricane season. The reason being they love to fund illegal immigrants and oops, it's hurricane season and taxpayers need help. FEMA running out of money because of the illegal immigrants isn't gaslighting, it's facts.Civilized said:griff17matt said:Civilized said:TheStorm said:Civ and Smaptass say stop exaggerating and fearmongering...Jtbridges317 said:
I can tell you this, I was there this weekend in West Jefferson, NC specifically Lansing and Crumpler, NC.
This is a war zone with no assistance at all. FEMA assistance from 10am to 1 pm.
I saw cars in trees, horse trailers washed up hills, bridges collapsed, homes that have floated 300 yards off of there foundation.
The worst part about all of this, is that Ashe county has one of the highest rates of suicide in the entire country prior to this storm, and it's only going to get worse. People have lost everything, there homes, loved ones, personal belongings, etc. EVERYTHING. I helped a women sort through her shed to see if there was anything worth keeping while her grand children wept because all of there child hood belongings and photos were destroyed.
We helped another man whose 8 ft ceiling basement filled up with water, all the way to the living space upstairs to where there was another 3 feet of water. His home that has been in his family since 1875 is gone. We were specifically told that he may be one of the folks that we lose over the next few weeks.
These folks are struggling, which I know everyone is aware, but it's way worse than anyone can imagine.
Oh. and gaslighting!
Go show me where I said that, or anything close.
Is this you, like 15 posts up?
Storm's clear implication is that I said the devastation in WNC was exaggerated.
I've had family from Black Mountain staying with us off and on over the last two weeks since the storm. One of them stayed in Black Mountain to volunteer and help navigate for aid workers. He's seen Swannanoa and Montreat up close. He's good friends with the landscape/hardware supply shop owner in Black Mountain that's supplied generators to the morgue and the flex warehouse space they're using as a temporary morgue. I know exactly how bad it is.
My beef on this thread has been the bull**** gaslighting about FEMA money being diverted for immigrants and the government withholding aid intentionally from red counties and the government controlling the weather and somehow directing a hurricane to obliterate WNC.
I've never said or implied that the devastation in WNC wasn't as described; exactly the opposite, in fact.
The money FEMA used to help individual communities deal with influxes of immigrants comes from an entirely different budget. Hurricane disaster relief is separate. It's not all one big pile of cash that FEMA can just spend wherever it wants.
So when Republicans refused to increase the FEMA budget, immigrants had nothing to do with it, it was the hurricane disaster relief budget that they stiffed. Like it or not, the cost of our yearly hurricane disasters has been rising pretty dramatically over the last couple decades. And it's going to get much worse. That's facts.
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