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https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/hr8281/text

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/8281

"This bill requires individuals to provide documentary proof of U.S. citizenship in order to register to vote in federal elections.

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Can't and won't be implemented by November. It'll get vetoed anyway. Now by the 2028 elections, sure.

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Shouldn't this be happening anyway? And you wonder why so many people question our elections…

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Sure it should be happening. But to try and implement this in 4 months? Won't work.

We wanted IDs to vote, now it's prove citizenship to vote.

Again, I'm on board with it, but 4 months isn't enough time to suddenly have milllions scrambling to retrieve passports/ birth certificates.

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You aren't supposed to be legally registered unless you are a citizen... there is nothing to implement, other than to not let people vote illegally.

Tough concept to digest for some.

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Sure, but everybody would need to re-register to vote correct?

Happening by November?

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Ok, that's fine by me…. If you really want to vote, you will figure out how to register, again!!

People are capable and very resilient. Have faith in your fellow man!!

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2 things:

1. Hunter isn't pushing for Joe to stay in because of his legal troubles-he knows that whoever the replacement is will take care of him. Hunter is pushing for Joe to stay because he needs the Big Guy to make his business model work a little bit longer
2. Wouldn't the Real ID solve citizen/non citizen proof of voting issue?

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2 things:

1. Hunter isn't pushing for Joe to stay in because of his legal troubles-he knows that whoever the replacement is will take care of him. Hunter is pushing for Joe to stay because he needs the Big Guy to make his business model work a little bit longer
2. Wouldn't the Real ID solve citizen/non citizen proof of voting issue?

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Real ID would, but that deadline is in May 2025. Can't bump it up now.

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California's Newsom. Yeah, I'm not worried.

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California's Newsom. Yeah, I'm not worried.

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Reminds me how the laws in England (and other socialist Western nations I'm sure) are such that if a homeowner resists a person invading their home and harms the invader, then the homeowner will be charged with a crime.

So the communists in California have now taken it from just decriminalizing all sorts of destructive and criminal behavior (looting and stealing from businesses, illegal drug use, etc), to now criminalizing those who resist the former criminal behavior.

Once again, this is another demonstration how the Marxist Left seeks to enact a total inversion of reality. They want to re-define those things that are evil to now be "good" (eg, homosexuality, transgenderism, normalize pedophilia, decriminalize drug use, allow looting and shoplifting, etc), and re-define those things that are good to now be "evil" (those who speak out against all the depravity of the Left are defined and charged with crimes under "hate speech", called "domestic terrorists", have the Marxist mob "cancel" them from their job, etc).

The communist Left are Satanic. Everything they do is designed to destroy society.

He's known in California as NewScum.

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What law are you talking about? In the UK you are allowed to use reasonable force against an intruder.

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What law are you talking about? In the UK you are allowed to use reasonable force against an intruder.

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How the laws are enforced, which is effectively the same thing. Many cases in the UK recently where homeowners who defended themselves, and with "reasonable force", were charged with crimes.

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What law are you talking about? In the UK you are allowed to use reasonable force against an intruder.

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How the laws are enforced, which is effectively the same thing. Many cases in the UK recently where homeowners who defended themselves, and with "reasonable force", were charged with crimes.

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LOL. Just stop. You are reading what you want to read and do not believe what you do not want to. That is your choice. But the law is clear. I am sure there are stories out there about someone being charged with using too much force when people would think it is reasonable.

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You're right I think. Still too many RINOs who are as bad as the Dems.....and that's why such a bill never materialized in the 1st place. DC is a corrupt cesspool.

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This is the difference in people like me and other Repub's. The Republican Party has had its moments to get things done. They have chosen to sit on the sidelines and complain.

Good post, Were….

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The RINO's were too busy worrying about Russia Collusion and undermining Trump to pass something so easy that everyone should want in having fair elections and only citizen's voting. Look at all Trump accomplished with even his own party against him. Imagine what they could have done if they actually cared about the country like the people do.

They had Obamacare defeated until that jerk John McCain voted against repealing it which tied the Senate at 49 each and the bill was dead. Another act of Treason by McCain.

This was never planned to be passed before 2024 because Schumer will not bring it up, just like he wouldn't bring up the border bill the House passed last January. They want illegals voting. Rinos want illegals for cheap labor. The swamp needs to be drained of politicians and bureaucrats completely or we are done as a Republic.

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What law are you talking about? In the UK you are allowed to use reasonable force against an intruder.

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How the laws are enforced, which is effectively the same thing. Many cases in the UK recently where homeowners who defended themselves, and with "reasonable force", were charged with crimes.

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LOL. Just stop. You are reading what you want to read and do not believe what you do not want to. That is your choice. But the law is clear. I am sure there are stories out there about someone being charged with using too much force when people would think it is reasonable.

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You should know that I will never stop, and will never kowtow to the Leftist agenda.

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El Lobo Loco said:

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https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/hr8281/text

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/8281

"This bill requires individuals to provide documentary proof of U.S. citizenship in order to register to vote in federal elections.

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Can't and won't be implemented by November. It'll get vetoed anyway. Now by the 2028 elections, sure.

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Shouldn't this be happening anyway? And you wonder why so many people question our elections…

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Sure it should be happening. But to try and implement this in 4 months? Won't work.

We wanted IDs to vote, now it's prove citizenship to vote.

Again, I'm on board with it, but 4 months isn't enough time to suddenly have milllions scrambling to retrieve passports/ birth certificates.

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You aren't supposed to be legally registered unless you are a citizen... there is nothing to implement, other than to not let people vote illegally.

Tough concept to digest for some.

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Sure, but everybody would need to re-register to vote correct?

Happening by November?

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Ok, that's fine by me…. If you really want to vote, you will figure out how to register, again!!

People are capable and very resilient. Have faith in your fellow man!!

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That's the point. 100-150+ million to re-register in 4 months, no way.

How long have we been messing with this Real ID mess? Imagine that in 4 months.

That's why this specific bill should've been brought up sooner, or input with a realistic timeline. Like others have said, won't pass before Nov anyway.

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https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/hr8281/text

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/8281

"This bill requires individuals to provide documentary proof of U.S. citizenship in order to register to vote in federal elections.

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Can't and won't be implemented by November. It'll get vetoed anyway. Now by the 2028 elections, sure.

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Shouldn't this be happening anyway? And you wonder why so many people question our elections…

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Sure it should be happening. But to try and implement this in 4 months? Won't work.

We wanted IDs to vote, now it's prove citizenship to vote.

Again, I'm on board with it, but 4 months isn't enough time to suddenly have milllions scrambling to retrieve passports/ birth certificates.

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You aren't supposed to be legally registered unless you are a citizen... there is nothing to implement, other than to not let people vote illegally.

Tough concept to digest for some.

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Sure, but everybody would need to re-register to vote correct?

Happening by November?

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Ok, that's fine by me…. If you really want to vote, you will figure out how to register, again!!

People are capable and very resilient. Have faith in your fellow man!!

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That's the point. 100-150+ million to re-register in 4 months, no way.

How long have we been messing with this Real ID mess? Imagine that in 4 months.

That's why this specific bill should've been brought up sooner, or input with a realistic timeline. Like others have said, won't pass before Nov anyway.

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I don't care! I'll get myself registered again…

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I meant just to stop talking about UK law which you know nothing about.

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https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/hr8281/text

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/8281

"This bill requires individuals to provide documentary proof of U.S. citizenship in order to register to vote in federal elections.

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Can't and won't be implemented by November. It'll get vetoed anyway. Now by the 2028 elections, sure.

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Shouldn't this be happening anyway? And you wonder why so many people question our elections…

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Sure it should be happening. But to try and implement this in 4 months? Won't work.

We wanted IDs to vote, now it's prove citizenship to vote.

Again, I'm on board with it, but 4 months isn't enough time to suddenly have milllions scrambling to retrieve passports/ birth certificates.

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You aren't supposed to be legally registered unless you are a citizen... there is nothing to implement, other than to not let people vote illegally.

Tough concept to digest for some.

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Sure, but everybody would need to re-register to vote correct?

Happening by November?

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Ok, that's fine by me…. If you really want to vote, you will figure out how to register, again!!

People are capable and very resilient. Have faith in your fellow man!!

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That's the point. 100-150+ million to re-register in 4 months, no way.

How long have we been messing with this Real ID mess? Imagine that in 4 months.

That's why this specific bill should've been brought up sooner, or input with a realistic timeline. Like others have said, won't pass before Nov anyway.

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I don't care! I'll get myself registered again…

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Only 150 million to go!

But, it won't pass, so no need.

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I meant just to stop talking about UK law which you know nothing about.

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I know just as much as you, at the very least. The law of requiring "reasonable" use of force is vague, and is in many cases (not all, but often) currently being interpreted and enforced such that those who lawfully use force against intruders are being prosecuted.

Leftists are the ones who know nothing about EVERYTHING. They think there are 70 genders, unborn children are "not human beings", and that decriminalizing looting and stealing is a "great idea".

Libtards are CLUELESS about everything. They have no business pretending to be the "moral and intellectual experts" on anything, and certainly anything to do with the law. You do not have the moral or intellectual high ground on me, on anything.

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caryking said:

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WolfpackUSC said:

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El Lobo Loco said:

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https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/hr8281/text

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/8281

"This bill requires individuals to provide documentary proof of U.S. citizenship in order to register to vote in federal elections.

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Can't and won't be implemented by November. It'll get vetoed anyway. Now by the 2028 elections, sure.

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Shouldn't this be happening anyway? And you wonder why so many people question our elections…

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Sure it should be happening. But to try and implement this in 4 months? Won't work.

We wanted IDs to vote, now it's prove citizenship to vote.

Again, I'm on board with it, but 4 months isn't enough time to suddenly have milllions scrambling to retrieve passports/ birth certificates.

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You aren't supposed to be legally registered unless you are a citizen... there is nothing to implement, other than to not let people vote illegally.

Tough concept to digest for some.

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Sure, but everybody would need to re-register to vote correct?

Happening by November?

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Ok, that's fine by me…. If you really want to vote, you will figure out how to register, again!!

People are capable and very resilient. Have faith in your fellow man!!

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That's the point. 100-150+ million to re-register in 4 months, no way.

How long have we been messing with this Real ID mess? Imagine that in 4 months.

That's why this specific bill should've been brought up sooner, or input with a realistic timeline. Like others have said, won't pass before Nov anyway.

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I don't care! I'll get myself registered again…

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Only 150 million to go!

But, it won't pass, so no need.

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I actually don't even know what this bill is supposed to do. I've been responding to post, without looking up the details. That said, voter ID, voter suppression, voter this and/or that is such a joke.

I'm a firm believer that if one wants something, they will find a way (hopefully, it's legal).

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I meant just to stop talking about UK law which you know nothing about.

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I know just as much as you, at the very least. The law of requiring "reasonable" use of force is vague, and is in many cases (not all, but often) currently being interpreted and enforced such that those who lawfully use force against intruders are being prosecuted.

Leftists are the ones who know nothing about EVERYTHING. They think there are 70 genders, unborn children are "not human beings", and that decriminalizing looting and stealing is a "great idea".

Libtards are CLUELESS about everything. They have no business pretending to be the "moral and intellectual experts" on anything, and certainly anything to do with the law. You do not have the moral or intellectual high ground on me, on anything.

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Bold statement to make!

So you have practiced law in the England? Have one of your best friends a Judge in England? Had a friend in England beat the **** out of a guy breaking into his house and was not charged with any crime?

Or are you just reading some stories on the internet?

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I meant just to stop talking about UK law which you know nothing about.

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I know just as much as you, at the very least. The law of requiring "reasonable" use of force is vague, and is in many cases (not all, but often) currently being interpreted and enforced such that those who lawfully use force against intruders are being prosecuted.

Leftists are the ones who know nothing about EVERYTHING. They think there are 70 genders, unborn children are "not human beings", and that decriminalizing looting and stealing is a "great idea".

Libtards are CLUELESS about everything. They have no business pretending to be the "moral and intellectual experts" on anything, and certainly anything to do with the law. You do not have the moral or intellectual high ground on me, on anything.

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Bold statement to make!

So you have practiced law in the England? Have one of your best friends a Judge in England? Had a friend in England beat the **** out of a guy breaking into his house and was not charged with any crime?

Or are you just reading some stories on the internet?

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I meant just to stop talking about UK law which you know nothing about.

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I know just as much as you, at the very least. The law of requiring "reasonable" use of force is vague, and is in many cases (not all, but often) currently being interpreted and enforced such that those who lawfully use force against intruders are being prosecuted.

Leftists are the ones who know nothing about EVERYTHING. They think there are 70 genders, unborn children are "not human beings", and that decriminalizing looting and stealing is a "great idea".

Libtards are CLUELESS about everything. They have no business pretending to be the "moral and intellectual experts" on anything, and certainly anything to do with the law. You do not have the moral or intellectual high ground on me, on anything.

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Bold statement to make!

So you have practiced law in the England? Have one of your best friends a Judge in England? Had a friend in England beat the **** out of a guy breaking into his house and was not charged with any crime?

Or are you just reading some stories on the internet?

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One has to practice law in England in order to have a view on this? And I'm sure you've practiced law in England?

Once again, the Left shoots themselves in the foot with their own hypocrisy.

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I am British and I practiced in England. You absolutely can have a view, I am just pointing out it is wrong.

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I meant just to stop talking about UK law which you know nothing about.

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I know just as much as you, at the very least. The law of requiring "reasonable" use of force is vague, and is in many cases (not all, but often) currently being interpreted and enforced such that those who lawfully use force against intruders are being prosecuted.

Leftists are the ones who know nothing about EVERYTHING. They think there are 70 genders, unborn children are "not human beings", and that decriminalizing looting and stealing is a "great idea".

Libtards are CLUELESS about everything. They have no business pretending to be the "moral and intellectual experts" on anything, and certainly anything to do with the law. You do not have the moral or intellectual high ground on me, on anything.

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Bold statement to make!

So you have practiced law in the England? Have one of your best friends a Judge in England? Had a friend in England beat the **** out of a guy breaking into his house and was not charged with any crime?

Or are you just reading some stories on the internet?

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One has to practice law in England in order to have a view on this? And I'm sure you've practiced law in England?

Once again, the Left shoots themselves in the foot with their own hypocrisy.

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I am British and I practiced in England. You absolutely can have a view, I am just pointing out it is wrong.

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I am British and I practiced in England. You absolutely can have a view, I am just pointing out it is wrong.

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Wow, this is amazing...British and a lawyer in England. Small world. This is similar to how on the internet when people argue that Sandy Hook was a government staged psyop, a person defending the official story always pops up who claims to personally know people involved in the case.

No, I am not wrong. There are many cases in England of people lawfully defending themselves against intruders into their homes who have been prosecuted. That is a fact.

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