2024 Elections

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hokiewolf
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Coot vs Crook II, looking forward to sitting on the sidelines.

packgrad
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Congratulations.
Civilized
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Joe Manchin could upend Biden's reelection campaign and blow up No Labels along the way

Give me all of this.
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Congratulations.
LOL, gonna run in behind the patriots. He can't stay there long, wokeness lingers in the minds of the those embedded in the matrix. But yeh, congratulations.
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Civilized said:

Joe Manchin could upend Biden's reelection campaign and blow up No Labels along the way

Give me all of this.

So you want the preening jackass Manchin to "upend Biden's reelection campaign" and hand the election to Trump? You're in danger of losing your "Water Cooler Far-Left Librul" card.
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Civilized said:

Joe Manchin could upend Biden's reelection campaign and blow up No Labels along the way

Give me all of this.

So you want the preening jackass Manchin to "upend Biden's reelection campaign" and hand the election to Trump? You're in danger of losing your "Water Cooler Far-Left Librul" card.

Haha! Fortunately for me I doubt supporting a Manchin candidacy would put a dent in my sterling reputation as a pretindependent Water Cooler libtard.

Biden's re-election campaign is already in deep ***** It's not news that Biden is currently very weak electorally. His campaign may not be on life support yet, but it's definitely getting wheeled into the ICU.

Rationally I'd be fascinated to see how much vote a guy like Manchin could pull. Most Americans don't want Trump or Biden in the White House for the next four years. And many of those saying they're voting for Trump or Biden are doing so while holding their noses. Exactly how many reluctant Biden/Trump votes and independent/swing/moderate votes could Manchin garner? Enough to have a path?

I vastly prefer the thought of a cogent, non-geriatric, moderate/centrist with seemingly little patience for the extremes of either party and no history of impeachment or assaulting democracy or sex assaulting dozens of women sitting in the big boy chair to either Trump or Biden.
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Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

Joe Manchin could upend Biden's reelection campaign and blow up No Labels along the way

Give me all of this.

So you want the preening jackass Manchin to "upend Biden's reelection campaign" and hand the election to Trump? You're in danger of losing your "Water Cooler Far-Left Librul" card.

Haha! Fortunately for me I doubt supporting a Manchin candidacy would put a dent in my sterling reputation as a pretindependent Water Cooler libtard.

Biden's re-election campaign is already in deep ***** It's not news that Biden is currently very weak electorally. His campaign may not be on life support yet, but it's definitely getting wheeled into the ICU.

Rationally I'd be fascinated to see how much vote a guy like Manchin could pull. Most Americans don't want Trump or Biden in the White House for the next four years. And many of those saying they're voting for Trump or Biden are doing so while holding their noses. Exactly how many reluctant Biden/Trump votes and independent/swing/moderate votes could Manchin garner? Enough to have a path?

I vastly prefer the thought of a cogent, non-geriatric, moderate/centrist with seemingly little patience for the extremes of either party and no history of impeachment or assaulting democracy or sex assaulting dozens of women sitting in the big boy chair to either Trump or Biden.


Leaving aside that Manchin would start his term at age 77, is there an "extreme" position that Biden supports that Manchin doesn't, outside of anything climate related that might affect West Virginia's coal mines? He loved being the center of attention and acting coy every month or so, but that was basically his only real beef with the BIPARTISAN infrastructure bill that Biden actually got done.

Anyhoo, Biden hasn't even started campaigning yet, so we'll see. Will be interesting if they ever debate... assuming they mute Trump's mic when it's not his turn I think a lot of people will be disoriented after the relentless propganda by how cogent Biden actually is.
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SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

Joe Manchin could upend Biden's reelection campaign and blow up No Labels along the way

Give me all of this.

So you want the preening jackass Manchin to "upend Biden's reelection campaign" and hand the election to Trump? You're in danger of losing your "Water Cooler Far-Left Librul" card.

Haha! Fortunately for me I doubt supporting a Manchin candidacy would put a dent in my sterling reputation as a pretindependent Water Cooler libtard.

Biden's re-election campaign is already in deep ***** It's not news that Biden is currently very weak electorally. His campaign may not be on life support yet, but it's definitely getting wheeled into the ICU.

Rationally I'd be fascinated to see how much vote a guy like Manchin could pull. Most Americans don't want Trump or Biden in the White House for the next four years. And many of those saying they're voting for Trump or Biden are doing so while holding their noses. Exactly how many reluctant Biden/Trump votes and independent/swing/moderate votes could Manchin garner? Enough to have a path?

I vastly prefer the thought of a cogent, non-geriatric, moderate/centrist with seemingly little patience for the extremes of either party and no history of impeachment or assaulting democracy or sex assaulting dozens of women sitting in the big boy chair to either Trump or Biden.


Leaving aside that Manchin would start his term at age 77, is there an "extreme" position that Biden supports that Manchin doesn't, outside of anything climate related that might affect West Virginia's coal mines? He loved being the center of attention and acting coy every month or so, but that was basically his only real beef with the BIPARTISAN infrastructure bill that Biden actually got done.

Anyhoo, Biden hasn't even started campaigning yet, so we'll see. Will be interesting if they ever debate... assuming they mute Trump's mic when it's not his turn I think a lot of people will be disoriented after the relentless propganda by how cogent Biden actually is.

It's not as much about extreme positions Biden explicitly supports as it is Manchin hopefully not needing to placate the activist left as much as Biden seems or needs to do. It may be impossible given the partisan nature of politics but I'd love the next President to tell both extremes to go screw and grab the middle 60% of Congress to pass practical, serious, socially conscious, fiscally responsible legislation.

This approach would much more closely mimic the electorate, where I'm convinced 60% or more of the country is workably moderate. It's not healthy that the loons in either party in Congress have outsize sway.

Biden is absolutely more cogent than the right thinks or claims but that is a very low bar to clear. If we're being honest with ourselves, if Obama is a 9 or 10 on the orator scale, what would Biden and Trump be? Trump's preschool-vocubulary strongman-with-ADD diatribes are a 1 or 2. But is Biden better than like a 4 on the best of days?
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Well, the geriatric's allies apparently aren't ignoring third party endeavors….

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-allies-plot-thwart-third-party-bids-that-threaten-his-reelection-2024-01-18/
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Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Civilized said:

Joe Manchin could upend Biden's reelection campaign and blow up No Labels along the way

Give me all of this.

So you want the preening jackass Manchin to "upend Biden's reelection campaign" and hand the election to Trump? You're in danger of losing your "Water Cooler Far-Left Librul" card.

Haha! Fortunately for me I doubt supporting a Manchin candidacy would put a dent in my sterling reputation as a pretindependent Water Cooler libtard.

Biden's re-election campaign is already in deep ***** It's not news that Biden is currently very weak electorally. His campaign may not be on life support yet, but it's definitely getting wheeled into the ICU.

Rationally I'd be fascinated to see how much vote a guy like Manchin could pull. Most Americans don't want Trump or Biden in the White House for the next four years. And many of those saying they're voting for Trump or Biden are doing so while holding their noses. Exactly how many reluctant Biden/Trump votes and independent/swing/moderate votes could Manchin garner? Enough to have a path?

I vastly prefer the thought of a cogent, non-geriatric, moderate/centrist with seemingly little patience for the extremes of either party and no history of impeachment or assaulting democracy or sex assaulting dozens of women sitting in the big boy chair to either Trump or Biden.


Leaving aside that Manchin would start his term at age 77, is there an "extreme" position that Biden supports that Manchin doesn't, outside of anything climate related that might affect West Virginia's coal mines? He loved being the center of attention and acting coy every month or so, but that was basically his only real beef with the BIPARTISAN infrastructure bill that Biden actually got done.

Anyhoo, Biden hasn't even started campaigning yet, so we'll see. Will be interesting if they ever debate... assuming they mute Trump's mic when it's not his turn I think a lot of people will be disoriented after the relentless propganda by how cogent Biden actually is.

It's not as much about extreme positions Biden explicitly supports as it is Manchin hopefully not needing to placate the activist left as much as Biden seems or needs to do. It may be impossible given the partisan nature of politics but I'd love the next President to tell both extremes to go screw and grab the middle 60% of Congress to pass practical, serious, socially conscious, fiscally responsible legislation.

This approach would much more closely mimic the electorate, where I'm convinced 60% or more of the country is workably moderate. It's not healthy that the loons in either party in Congress have outsize sway.

Biden is absolutely more cogent than the right thinks or claims but that is a very low bar to clear. If we're being honest with ourselves, if Obama is a 9 or 10 on the orator scale, what would Biden and Trump be? Trump's preschool-vocubulary strongman-with-ADD diatribes are a 1 or 2. But is Biden better than like a 4 on the best of days?

Well, Biden's got a stutter, so even his speeches in his 40s had a few stammers in them... of course the demonic jackals have turned that into "obvious dimentia". But we must be watching different speeches, or different soundbites or whatever... on his best days I'd give him a solid 7. Definitely not Obama, but that's an unfair bar.

Anyway, it's endlessly fascinating to me how Republicans have figured out how to hack the minds of the "center" in this country. It doesn't seem to matter how profoundly awful they behave or how completely they refuse to govern, the "center" of the country (including beltway journalists and apparently you) always reflexively find a way to "both sides" both "extremes". But there's no comparison whatsoever between the "extreme" left who try to nudge Biden to give kids tax credits or whatever but still end up compromising in order to actually govern, and whatever the f*** the Republican run congress is doing at the moment. There's hardly even a right wing extreme anymore... they all seem to have hopped on the nihilism train.
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This cat has about 10 times the discernment than a number of clowns here do.

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packgrad
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This is what you get when you vote Democrat.

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Just wanted to check in to make sure none of our Water Cooler crew are in jail tonight.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pa-man-arrested-decapitating-father-youtube-video-rcna136509
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This is what happens when you vote Democrat.

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packgrad said:

This is what happens when you vote Democrat.

No, This is what happens when you meme it up like Were.

Illegals commit crimes at a fraction of the rate of natural born Americans.

And there has been zero previous correlation between rates of immigrant crime or rates of immigrants crossing the border, and the party of the sitting President.

So no, voting for a particular party does not either cause or fix our immigration problems.

And that clown on the right didn't get arrested "for praying." That's obviously laughable, and completely false.

He and other protesters got arrested for blocking the hallways and entrance of an abortion clinic, which is a federal crime, and then being stupid enough to live-stream it.

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Prosecutors say participants stationed themselves throughout the office building where carafem health clinic was located and, later, several began recording themselves "leading a rescue," a term commonly known among anti-abortion activists as dissuading women from obtaining an abortion. Prosecutors added that videos from that day showed people blocking the clinic's entrances and others attempting to engage with police as a delay tactic. Around 20 people attended the blockade.

Go pray and sing hymns at church or virtually wherever you want. But if you do it in the hall and entrances of an abortion clinic, you're not a victim you're just somebody committing a crime. And a jury found them guilty of committing that crime.

If you don't like that, change abortion laws or change the FACE act that makes such behavior a crime.
packgrad
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

This is what happens when you vote Democrat.

No, This is what happens when you meme it up like Were.

Illegals commit crimes at a fraction of the rate of natural born Americans.

And there has been zero previous correlation between rates of immigrant crime or rates of immigrants crossing the border, and the party of the sitting President.

So no, voting for a particular party does not either cause or fix our immigration problems.

And that clown on the right didn't get arrested "for praying." That's obviously laughable, and completely false.

He and other protesters got arrested for blocking the hallways and entrance of an abortion clinic, which is a federal crime, and then being stupid enough to live-stream it.

Quote:

Prosecutors say participants stationed themselves throughout the office building where carafem health clinic was located and, later, several began recording themselves "leading a rescue," a term commonly known among anti-abortion activists as dissuading women from obtaining an abortion. Prosecutors added that videos from that day showed people blocking the clinic's entrances and others attempting to engage with police as a delay tactic. Around 20 people attended the blockade.

Go pray and sing hymns at church or virtually wherever you want. But if you do it in the hall and entrances of an abortion clinic, you're not a victim you're just somebody committing a crime. And a jury found them guilty of committing that crime.

If you don't like that, change abortion laws or change the FACE act that makes such behavior a crime.


I don't need to change any laws to post on a message board about stupid **** that Democrats enacted. If you don't like that go cry to James about your feelings being hurt.

The FACE act is garbage. I know prayers in an abortion clinic trigger you more than illegal aliens beating police. You're a Democrat.

Also, you're a moron if you think Biden/Democrats haven't worsened illegal immigration. Just like your buddy smapty.


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packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

This is what happens when you vote Democrat.

No, This is what happens when you meme it up like Were.

Illegals commit crimes at a fraction of the rate of natural born Americans.

And there has been zero previous correlation between rates of immigrant crime or rates of immigrants crossing the border, and the party of the sitting President.

So no, voting for a particular party does not either cause or fix our immigration problems.

And that clown on the right didn't get arrested "for praying." That's obviously laughable, and completely false.

He and other protesters got arrested for blocking the hallways and entrance of an abortion clinic, which is a federal crime, and then being stupid enough to live-stream it.

Quote:

Prosecutors say participants stationed themselves throughout the office building where carafem health clinic was located and, later, several began recording themselves "leading a rescue," a term commonly known among anti-abortion activists as dissuading women from obtaining an abortion. Prosecutors added that videos from that day showed people blocking the clinic's entrances and others attempting to engage with police as a delay tactic. Around 20 people attended the blockade.

Go pray and sing hymns at church or virtually wherever you want. But if you do it in the hall and entrances of an abortion clinic, you're not a victim you're just somebody committing a crime. And a jury found them guilty of committing that crime.

If you don't like that, change abortion laws or change the FACE act that makes such behavior a crime.


I don't need to change any laws to post on a message board about stupid **** that Democrats enacted. If you don't like that go cry to James about your feelings being hurt.

The FACE act is garbage. I know prayers in an abortion clinic trigger you more than illegal aliens beating police. You're a Democrat.

Also, you're a moron if you think Biden/Democrats haven't worsened illegal immigration. Just like your buddy smapty.


The way it works is if you don't like the law, you can change it.

Until then you're just being a crybaby about someone being prosecuted and convicted by a jury for something that was obviously a crime.

Aliens, the President, trans people, or anyone else should also be prosecuted for crimes they commit.

That's the way this whole thing works.
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

This is what happens when you vote Democrat.

No, This is what happens when you meme it up like Were.

Illegals commit crimes at a fraction of the rate of natural born Americans.

And there has been zero previous correlation between rates of immigrant crime or rates of immigrants crossing the border, and the party of the sitting President.

So no, voting for a particular party does not either cause or fix our immigration problems.

And that clown on the right didn't get arrested "for praying." That's obviously laughable, and completely false.

He and other protesters got arrested for blocking the hallways and entrance of an abortion clinic, which is a federal crime, and then being stupid enough to live-stream it.

Quote:

Prosecutors say participants stationed themselves throughout the office building where carafem health clinic was located and, later, several began recording themselves "leading a rescue," a term commonly known among anti-abortion activists as dissuading women from obtaining an abortion. Prosecutors added that videos from that day showed people blocking the clinic's entrances and others attempting to engage with police as a delay tactic. Around 20 people attended the blockade.

Go pray and sing hymns at church or virtually wherever you want. But if you do it in the hall and entrances of an abortion clinic, you're not a victim you're just somebody committing a crime. And a jury found them guilty of committing that crime.

If you don't like that, change abortion laws or change the FACE act that makes such behavior a crime.


I don't need to change any laws to post on a message board about stupid **** that Democrats enacted. If you don't like that go cry to James about your feelings being hurt.

The FACE act is garbage. I know prayers in an abortion clinic trigger you more than illegal aliens beating police. You're a Democrat.

Also, you're a moron if you think Biden/Democrats haven't worsened illegal immigration. Just like your buddy smapty.


The way it works is if you don't like the law, you can change it.

Until then you're just being a crybaby about someone being prosecuted and convicted by a jury for something that was obviously a crime.

Aliens, the President, trans people, or anyone else should also be prosecuted for crimes they commit.

That's the way this whole thing works.



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packgrad
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

This is what happens when you vote Democrat.

No, This is what happens when you meme it up like Were.

Illegals commit crimes at a fraction of the rate of natural born Americans.

And there has been zero previous correlation between rates of immigrant crime or rates of immigrants crossing the border, and the party of the sitting President.

So no, voting for a particular party does not either cause or fix our immigration problems.

And that clown on the right didn't get arrested "for praying." That's obviously laughable, and completely false.

He and other protesters got arrested for blocking the hallways and entrance of an abortion clinic, which is a federal crime, and then being stupid enough to live-stream it.

Quote:

Prosecutors say participants stationed themselves throughout the office building where carafem health clinic was located and, later, several began recording themselves "leading a rescue," a term commonly known among anti-abortion activists as dissuading women from obtaining an abortion. Prosecutors added that videos from that day showed people blocking the clinic's entrances and others attempting to engage with police as a delay tactic. Around 20 people attended the blockade.

Go pray and sing hymns at church or virtually wherever you want. But if you do it in the hall and entrances of an abortion clinic, you're not a victim you're just somebody committing a crime. And a jury found them guilty of committing that crime.

If you don't like that, change abortion laws or change the FACE act that makes such behavior a crime.


I don't need to change any laws to post on a message board about stupid **** that Democrats enacted. If you don't like that go cry to James about your feelings being hurt.

The FACE act is garbage. I know prayers in an abortion clinic trigger you more than illegal aliens beating police. You're a Democrat.

Also, you're a moron if you think Biden/Democrats haven't worsened illegal immigration. Just like your buddy smapty.


The way it works is if you don't like the law, you can change it.

Until then you're just being a crybaby about someone being prosecuted and convicted by a jury for something that was obviously a crime.

Aliens, the President, trans people, or anyone else should also be prosecuted for crimes they commit.

That's the way this whole thing works.


We're not changing laws on a message board. Being a crybaby is having a hissy fit because it was pointed out that your like minded democrats would rather put a person praying in an abortion mill in prison than they would an illegal alien beating police officers. Par for the course for Democrats.

If you don't like being called out for supporting horrible policy, don't support horrible policy.

That's the way the whole thing works.
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Sums up the difference between what happens when in Democrat cities/towns/states versus republican cities/towns/states.


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The gaslighting Mockingbird media at work. Gonna be razor close.......it could go either way. : #hilarious

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#daSieve must have seen this on MsNBC.

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#Sieve, this isn't true, my man. It's not true. More Fake News from one of the conspiracy sites.

And i won't tell you where Obama and Michael traveled to about 2-3 weeks ago. Not sure if they've returned ;-)

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This is the dead part, of the Republican Party!!


On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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caryking said:

This is the dead part, of the Republican Party!!



Yep, the last flickers of sanity in the Republican Party are going out. Sad!
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SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

This is the dead part, of the Republican Party!!



Yep, the last flickers of sanity in the Republican Party are going out. Sad!
spoken like a true liberal... name one flicker of sanity in the Democratic Party today...
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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caryking said:

This is the dead part, of the Republican Party!!



Who exactly is Liz Cheney supposed to be now? and why should I give a **** about one single thing that she says anymore?

Thanks.
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TheStorm said:

caryking said:

This is the dead part, of the Republican Party!!



Who exactly is Liz Cheney supposed to be now? and why should I give a **** about one single thing that she says anymore?

Thanks.
Only people like Smapty care about Liz Cheney.... I posted her tweet to show how out of touch she is...
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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