Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
hokiewolf said:
Fear mongering is the tits.
You don't think the democrats will open the southern border again if given the chance?
No.
Voters kicked Dems out of the White House in favor of a clown just two years ago, and immigration was one of the two main reasons why.
I'm willing to bet the message was received.
Poppycock. You are just saying what you think people want to hear.
Democrats will open the border, grant amnesty and again sell the country out for votes.
If they learned anything it's to act quickly and force it down the American citizens throat to stay in power.
No, people respond to incentives.
I'm naming the rational response (keeping the borders tight) to an obvious incentive (staying in office).
Why would Dems commit electoral suicide to "open the borders?"
And before you say "for the votes," consider how stupid that response is.
So the theory is they open the borders only to get booted out of office again for the same reason as in 2024, on the hope that eventually the illegals become legal and can eventually vote, and then vote them back into office?
Why would they hinge their future on a hope and a prayer when they're already in office, and the vastly easier path is to just stay in office by giving Americans what they clearly want (tight borders)?
Democrats want to grant amnesty to 20-30 million illegals. These are low skill, low education people who democrats know will vote for their benefits.
Thats the end game.
You're assuming both the motive and the payoff, and also using specious stats to do it.
Even the most wildly pessimistic scenarios don't have 20MM+ illegals in this country. And, most illegals are Hispanic, and Trump won half of the Hispanic vote in 2024.
Again, it makes zero sense that Democrats would risk losing actual voters today for hypothetical voters years down the road, when securing the border would help them stay in office now, and the hypothetical voters years down the road are not even close to guaranteed, for several different reasons.