Forget it

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This is not a peace deal. There is an understanding that they will continue talking and try to reach a peace deal in 60 days. If Iran does not behave they will get bombed. If they start meeting certain criteria, then they will slowly get some of the funds that have been frozen. What we have right now is a pause. Iran has a choice to make. Do what they signed on to do or be obliterated. No U. S. Forces are going anywhere for a while. Trump has all the leverage. Obama never had any.

Again let it play out and see where we go. There is plenty in the works behind the scenes. Americans don't want troops on the ground. Ok then we destroy them economically where they have to either give in or get destroyed. Trump is giving them an out to save face, but he is not letting them off the hook.

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Yeah, I'm not buying that. This regime murdered tens of thousands of their own citizens, they were responsible for October 7th, they are responsible for the war in Gaza, and they have consistently maintained their main goal is to eradicate Israel off the map and to murder as many Americans as possible.

As a reward for all this, the US is now going to allow Iran to become richer than they have in the last 47 years.

Great negotiations. In 60 days you know what we're going to have? Jack squat.

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What is the alternative?

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finish the job you promised. Unconditional surrender

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What would that include?

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go ask Trump. He said it.

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Perhaps he's accomplished what he wanted, right? So, what would you want him to do to finish the job?? Did you have an expectation of what that meant? If so, what was it?

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lol. Yes, I have an expectation of unconditional surrender being an actual unconditional surrender. We do t have an unconditional surrender Cary.

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Heck, I'm not even sure I know what unconditional surrender means. Tell me what you think it means, specifically…

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wiping an evil regime off the face of the earth.

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My man the only other option was kamala Harris I mean honestly did we really have a choice. I get the can't stand Trump ok but as far as the well being of the country kamala would have been a disaster. In my little opinion that is.

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Uh, yes. I can stand her laugh over the corrupt grifting pedophile felon who led a treasonous insurrection. In my little opinion that is.

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Well done! You only missed "Nazi" and "fascist" in your word salad. Next time try to work in "threat to our democracy " for bonus points.

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I didn't call Trump a Nazi; JD did. Proud Neo-Nazis seem to support Trump. Draw your own conclusions.

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5 out 10. If you can work in "oligarchs" I'll give you 7 out of 10.

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This is not a peace deal. There is an understanding that they will continue talking and try to reach a peace deal in 60 days. If Iran does not behave they will get bombed. If they start meeting certain criteria, then they will slowly get some of the funds that have been frozen. What we have right now is a pause. Iran has a choice to make. Do what they signed on to do or be obliterated. No U. S. Forces are going anywhere for a while. Trump has all the leverage. Obama never had any.

Again let it play out and see where we go. There is plenty in the works behind the scenes. Americans don't want troops on the ground. Ok then we destroy them economically where they have to either give in or get destroyed. Trump is giving them an out to save face, but he is not letting them off the hook.

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Yeah, I'm not buying that. This regime murdered tens of thousands of their own citizens, they were responsible for October 7th, they are responsible for the war in Gaza, and they have consistently maintained their main goal is to eradicate Israel off the map and to murder as many Americans as possible.

As a reward for all this, the US is now going to allow Iran to become richer than they have in the last 47 years.

Great negotiations. In 60 days you know what we're going to have? Jack squat.

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What is the alternative?

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finish the job you promised. Unconditional surrender

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What would that include?

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go ask Trump. He said it.

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Perhaps he's accomplished what he wanted, right? So, what would you want him to do to finish the job?? Did you have an expectation of what that meant? If so, what was it?

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What did he accomplish that he wanted?

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He's gotten to a place where they can get a deal. What I find interesting is that some want him to finish the job. I really think it's them that need to let us know what they expected.

it appears obvious that Trump is at a place where he is content, for the time being. BTW, I'm not here to read anyone's mind, so, please enlighten us on your expectations.

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This is not a peace deal. There is an understanding that they will continue talking and try to reach a peace deal in 60 days. If Iran does not behave they will get bombed. If they start meeting certain criteria, then they will slowly get some of the funds that have been frozen. What we have right now is a pause. Iran has a choice to make. Do what they signed on to do or be obliterated. No U. S. Forces are going anywhere for a while. Trump has all the leverage. Obama never had any.

Again let it play out and see where we go. There is plenty in the works behind the scenes. Americans don't want troops on the ground. Ok then we destroy them economically where they have to either give in or get destroyed. Trump is giving them an out to save face, but he is not letting them off the hook.

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Yeah, I'm not buying that. This regime murdered tens of thousands of their own citizens, they were responsible for October 7th, they are responsible for the war in Gaza, and they have consistently maintained their main goal is to eradicate Israel off the map and to murder as many Americans as possible.

As a reward for all this, the US is now going to allow Iran to become richer than they have in the last 47 years.

Great negotiations. In 60 days you know what we're going to have? Jack squat.

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What is the alternative?

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finish the job you promised. Unconditional surrender

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What would that include?

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go ask Trump. He said it.

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Perhaps he's accomplished what he wanted, right? So, what would you want him to do to finish the job?? Did you have an expectation of what that meant? If so, what was it?

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lol. Yes, I have an expectation of unconditional surrender being an actual unconditional surrender. We do t have an unconditional surrender Cary.

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Heck, I'm not even sure I know what unconditional surrender means. Tell me what you think it means, specifically…

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wiping an evil regime off the face of the earth.

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So, was that your expectation? If so, would you agree that aligns with the Neo-Con position?

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This is not a peace deal. There is an understanding that they will continue talking and try to reach a peace deal in 60 days. If Iran does not behave they will get bombed. If they start meeting certain criteria, then they will slowly get some of the funds that have been frozen. What we have right now is a pause. Iran has a choice to make. Do what they signed on to do or be obliterated. No U. S. Forces are going anywhere for a while. Trump has all the leverage. Obama never had any.

Again let it play out and see where we go. There is plenty in the works behind the scenes. Americans don't want troops on the ground. Ok then we destroy them economically where they have to either give in or get destroyed. Trump is giving them an out to save face, but he is not letting them off the hook.

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Yeah, I'm not buying that. This regime murdered tens of thousands of their own citizens, they were responsible for October 7th, they are responsible for the war in Gaza, and they have consistently maintained their main goal is to eradicate Israel off the map and to murder as many Americans as possible.

As a reward for all this, the US is now going to allow Iran to become richer than they have in the last 47 years.

Great negotiations. In 60 days you know what we're going to have? Jack squat.

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What is the alternative?

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finish the job you promised. Unconditional surrender

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#dave, you should volunteer to lead the charge across the Iranian deserts to Tehran. Then, if you survive, we can parachute you into Kiev so that you can lead a 2nd charge of the Azov Battalion on Moscow......much like 1941.

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buddy, I'm not the one who defined what success was going to be. Take your issue up with President Trump.

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At least you don't deny your support of Ukraine and its Azov Battalion.

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I support freedom loving people, you support Russia. I will always own your ass there.

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#dave has been tarred and feathered over and over here in the WC. Wrong about everything. I've blistered your fat a$$ here time and again. You are a danger to this country, go back to your homeland.

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it's going to be awesome if we ever meet one day and I put you on the ground.

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Says #dave...talking out of which of your two big fat a$$es. You're a slob and you'd be exhausted in 30 sec

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lol won't need more than 5 seconds player

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Fatboy, you are all talk. You've got nothing but a fat gut and a rubber tire under your chin. Just a big slob with a bigger mouth.

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Easy Were…. That's uncalled for. Regardless of what someone may say, stooping to ad hominem attacks makes it look like you are loosing the conversation/debate.

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And I'm not looking to give James more ammo to deep six the WC.

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Look, he got a little back. He's the dude that has a history of making threats, I answered with something that got through. What's this clown wanna do, meet in the middle of downtown Raleigh and rumble. LOL I punched him back and I didn't even have to catch a flight, LOL.

I recognize I can get a little rough here and I can always do better. Again, he started it with the physical threat, I ended it. I can get into his looks in the future, there's plenty of material. Have you seen his LinkedIn pic?

Again, I'll happily move one.

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I've had one character on ignore for awhile now and you can do the same with him.

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This is essentially true for the most part, I think. The intent of the NWO/Cabal was to create a conflict between these Muslim zealots, Israel and - somehow - the Christian world for a WW3 event. This WW3 event was to depopulate much of the world and seat Prince William as the ruler of the One World Govt. With Lady Di's bloodline, the British Royal Family via William holds the DNA/blood of all 13 families of Caan.

This is what the current NWO crowd's plan is, but I don't think they pull it off. I think the Q team wins.

If you are criticizing POTUS, you do not understand the severity of our situation.

The Deep State’s plan was to arm Iran and their proxies with nuclear weapons, and they were going to strike Israel from Syria to initiate WW3.

If Hillary had won 2016, this was their plan. This… pic.twitter.com/JWLFPyQUx7

— Clandestine (@WarClandestine) June 20, 2026

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I'm confused. If the world is run by Zionists, who exactly is the deep state again?

"WHERE IS THE PEOPLE'S GOLD?"

And when 330 million Americans hear the answer NOTHING will be the same.

🔻They told you the gold was safe.

For **73 YEARS** no one was allowed inside. No president. No auditor. No camera. The last full physical audit of Fort Knox was **1953.** Since then — NOTHING. Just paper. Just promises. Just TRUST US.

Then David Rush got caught.

**303 gold…

— Mr. Pool (@MrPool_QQ) June 20, 2026

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This is not a peace deal. There is an understanding that they will continue talking and try to reach a peace deal in 60 days. If Iran does not behave they will get bombed. If they start meeting certain criteria, then they will slowly get some of the funds that have been frozen. What we have right now is a pause. Iran has a choice to make. Do what they signed on to do or be obliterated. No U. S. Forces are going anywhere for a while. Trump has all the leverage. Obama never had any.

Again let it play out and see where we go. There is plenty in the works behind the scenes. Americans don't want troops on the ground. Ok then we destroy them economically where they have to either give in or get destroyed. Trump is giving them an out to save face, but he is not letting them off the hook.

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Yeah, I'm not buying that. This regime murdered tens of thousands of their own citizens, they were responsible for October 7th, they are responsible for the war in Gaza, and they have consistently maintained their main goal is to eradicate Israel off the map and to murder as many Americans as possible.

As a reward for all this, the US is now going to allow Iran to become richer than they have in the last 47 years.

Great negotiations. In 60 days you know what we're going to have? Jack squat.

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What is the alternative?

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finish the job you promised. Unconditional surrender

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What would that include?

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go ask Trump. He said it.

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Perhaps he's accomplished what he wanted, right? So, what would you want him to do to finish the job?? Did you have an expectation of what that meant? If so, what was it?

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lol. Yes, I have an expectation of unconditional surrender being an actual unconditional surrender. We do t have an unconditional surrender Cary.

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Heck, I'm not even sure I know what unconditional surrender means. Tell me what you think it means, specifically…

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wiping an evil regime off the face of the earth.

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So, was that your expectation? If so, would you agree that aligns with the Neo-Con position?

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why does that matter?

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This is essentially true for the most part, I think. The intent of the NWO/Cabal was to create a conflict between these Muslim zealots, Israel and - somehow - the Christian world for a WW3 event. This WW3 event was to depopulate much of the world and seat Prince William as the ruler of the One World Govt. With Lady Di's bloodline, the British Royal Family via William holds the DNA/blood of all 13 families of Caan.

This is what the current NWO crowd's plan is, but I don't think they pull it off. I think the Q team wins.

If you are criticizing POTUS, you do not understand the severity of our situation.

The Deep State’s plan was to arm Iran and their proxies with nuclear weapons, and they were going to strike Israel from Syria to initiate WW3.

If Hillary had won 2016, this was their plan. This… pic.twitter.com/JWLFPyQUx7

— Clandestine (@WarClandestine) June 20, 2026

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I'm confused. If the world is run by Zionists, who exactly is the deep state again?

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I've shared my evolution of thought here before. It started with the belief that there was a good old boy network in DC. As a 52 yr old, voted for a democrat in 2008, this F'n Marxist Islamist. I was too damn busy with my children activities to have the comprehensive understanding that we all actually need to have. I fell for all of his sound bites, etc., and not adequately engrossed in what was really going on.

My first real exposure to the so-called deep state was watching YouTube videos of a former CIA Kevin Shipp. In his PowerPoint presentations he presented a concept of a deep state and a separate shadow Government. I continued observing news and engrossing myself, and what was going on in the world and it quickly became apparent to me that Kevin Shipp'snarrative held up. That narrative is that the CIA has been the operational arm of the so-called shadow Government under the administration of the council on foreign relations. There is also a group in federal government called senior executive service (SES) that is some part of all of this Kevin Shipp, distinguished the deep state from the shadow Government. He describes a deep state is corporate industry consumed of power and profit at the expense of all others. The shadow Government on the other hand is consumed with global and ideological matters with intentions of controlling the globe and plotting its course, the so-called global cabal. There are other players in the deep state and a multitude of secret handshake clubs, the make up the elements of the global Cabal.

So basically, a 2 headed monster that are willing to work together for individual goals. What seems to have happened is that Trump has fractured the deep state in elements of the deep state recognize the dangers of the shadow That's about as well as I can cobble together a narrative on this. Juan O'Savin's stuff is consistent with most of Kevin Shipp's stuff. I will once again tell my patriot friends here that Juan O'Savin is a big fish in the patriot movement. He's some part of Q and the US Military. He wears a disguise and is connected to Trump for sure.

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This is essentially true for the most part, I think. The intent of the NWO/Cabal was to create a conflict between these Muslim zealots, Israel and - somehow - the Christian world for a WW3 event. This WW3 event was to depopulate much of the world and seat Prince William as the ruler of the One World Govt. With Lady Di's bloodline, the British Royal Family via William holds the DNA/blood of all 13 families of Caan.

This is what the current NWO crowd's plan is, but I don't think they pull it off. I think the Q team wins.

If you are criticizing POTUS, you do not understand the severity of our situation.

The Deep State’s plan was to arm Iran and their proxies with nuclear weapons, and they were going to strike Israel from Syria to initiate WW3.

If Hillary had won 2016, this was their plan. This… pic.twitter.com/JWLFPyQUx7

— Clandestine (@WarClandestine) June 20, 2026

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I'm confused. If the world is run by Zionists, who exactly is the deep state again?

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I've shared my evolution of thought here before. It started with the belief that there was a good old boy network in DC. As a 52 yr old, voted for a democrat in 2008, this F'n Marxist Islamist. I was too damn busy with my children activities to have the comprehensive understanding that we all actually need to have. I fell for all of his sound bites, etc., and not adequately engrossed in what was really going on.

My first real exposure to the so-called deep state was watching YouTube videos of a former CIA Kevin Shipp. In his PowerPoint presentations he presented a concept of a deep state and a separate shadow Government. I continued observing news and engrossing myself, and what was going on in the world and it quickly became apparent to me that Kevin Shipp'snarrative held up. That narrative is that the CIA has been the operational arm of the so-called shadow Government under the administration of the council on foreign relations. There is also a group in federal government called senior executive service (SES) that is some part of all of this Kevin Shipp, distinguished the deep state from the shadow Government. He describes a deep state is corporate industry consumed of power and profit at the expense of all others. The shadow Government on the other hand is consumed with global and ideological matters with intentions of controlling the globe and plotting its course, the so-called global cabal. There are other players in the deep state and a multitude of secret handshake clubs, the make up the elements of the global Cabal.

So basically, a 2 headed monster that are willing to work together for individual goals. What seems to have happened is that Trump has fractured the deep state in elements of the deep state recognize the dangers of the shadow govt. That's about as well as I can cobble together a narrative on this. Juan O'Savin's stuff is consistent with most of Kevin Shipp's stuff. I will once again tell my patriot friends here that Juan O'Savin is a big fish in the patriot movement. He's some part of Q and the US Military. He wears a disguise and is connected to Trump for sure.

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Edit: one more thing to mention.....elements of what we're watching are for show, a movie. I know it's hard to come to terms with but some of this - I certainly don't know all the specifics aspects - have already been settled in Trump's 1st term. It's being played out for the American people to "wake them up". This is a war unlike any war that has been fought in history. Remember in WW2 all the fake tanks etc....deception. War has now taken on a level of deception in a another stratosphere. That's how I attempt to understand all the developments we see occurring daily. I see things differently than many see here as indicated by their reactions.

Ok#sheeple that wish to play on the words of biiolabs versus biological weapons labs.....how long do you intend to remain #sheeple?

Today, on my final day as Director of National Intelligence, I’m releasing never-before-seen communications and documents exposing how Dr. Fauci provided millions in US taxpayer dollars to fund dangerous gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab, worked with politicized elements… pic.twitter.com/ZMdliW4zyS

— DNI Tulsi Gabbard (@DNIGabbard) June 19, 2026

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This is not a peace deal. There is an understanding that they will continue talking and try to reach a peace deal in 60 days. If Iran does not behave they will get bombed. If they start meeting certain criteria, then they will slowly get some of the funds that have been frozen. What we have right now is a pause. Iran has a choice to make. Do what they signed on to do or be obliterated. No U. S. Forces are going anywhere for a while. Trump has all the leverage. Obama never had any.

Again let it play out and see where we go. There is plenty in the works behind the scenes. Americans don't want troops on the ground. Ok then we destroy them economically where they have to either give in or get destroyed. Trump is giving them an out to save face, but he is not letting them off the hook.

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Yeah, I'm not buying that. This regime murdered tens of thousands of their own citizens, they were responsible for October 7th, they are responsible for the war in Gaza, and they have consistently maintained their main goal is to eradicate Israel off the map and to murder as many Americans as possible.

As a reward for all this, the US is now going to allow Iran to become richer than they have in the last 47 years.

Great negotiations. In 60 days you know what we're going to have? Jack squat.

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What is the alternative?

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finish the job you promised. Unconditional surrender

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What would that include?

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go ask Trump. He said it.

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Perhaps he's accomplished what he wanted, right? So, what would you want him to do to finish the job?? Did you have an expectation of what that meant? If so, what was it?

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What did he accomplish that he wanted?

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He's gotten to a place where they can get a deal. What I find interesting is that some want him to finish the job. I really think it's them that need to let us know what they expected.

it appears obvious that Trump is at a place where he is content, for the time being. BTW, I'm not here to read anyone's mind, so, please enlighten us on your expectations.

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I think this has been a total disaster and any deal he can make isn't going to be nearly as good as the JCPOA he withdrew from.

Unfortunately, we'll have to live with the lives already lost, economic hits, and would rather spend the potential $300 billion on our own citizens instead of rebuilding Iran after bombing them.

What are your expectations?

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What $300 billion are you talking about?

She's being red-pilled don't you think? LOL Obama, the snake oil salesman got me back in 2008. Gotta wake up folks.

Why does this type of news never get airtime?

Blacks in Chicago hate Obama and his ugly ass building 😂🤣 pic.twitter.com/PlI1F345lc

— 🇺🇸 Justice (@250_Revolution) June 19, 2026

The deeper connection to Iran is the Vatican and not necessarily their govt. Roman Catholics here are in for a real awakening somewhere down the road.

🚨 TRUMP TELLS IT LIKE IT IS, NO MORE BEING TAKEN FOR A RIDE!

Italian PM Giorgia Meloni begged for photo ops with President Trump at the G7… but she wouldn’t let us use Italy’s runways to stop Iran from going nuclear.

Now that we handled business, she suddenly wants to be… pic.twitter.com/hR5zrGDzrP

— Gunther Eagleman™ (@GuntherEagleman) June 20, 2026

Blue State Govt, #Sieve, its - you might say - #SPECIAL!

🚨 HOLY SMOKES. Trump officials Dr. Mehmet Oz and Jim O’Neill just dropped a MINNESOTA BOMBSHELL.

A former linen factory converted into 400 Medicaid businesses — all billing out of ONE building.

Nearly $400 MILLION siphoned from taxpayers.

Four hundred shell operations. An… pic.twitter.com/ztUF5YaXR0

— Tironianae 🍊🍊 Z. - Ultra Verbum Vincet (@Tironianae) June 19, 2026

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This is not a peace deal. There is an understanding that they will continue talking and try to reach a peace deal in 60 days. If Iran does not behave they will get bombed. If they start meeting certain criteria, then they will slowly get some of the funds that have been frozen. What we have right now is a pause. Iran has a choice to make. Do what they signed on to do or be obliterated. No U. S. Forces are going anywhere for a while. Trump has all the leverage. Obama never had any.

Again let it play out and see where we go. There is plenty in the works behind the scenes. Americans don't want troops on the ground. Ok then we destroy them economically where they have to either give in or get destroyed. Trump is giving them an out to save face, but he is not letting them off the hook.

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Yeah, I'm not buying that. This regime murdered tens of thousands of their own citizens, they were responsible for October 7th, they are responsible for the war in Gaza, and they have consistently maintained their main goal is to eradicate Israel off the map and to murder as many Americans as possible.

As a reward for all this, the US is now going to allow Iran to become richer than they have in the last 47 years.

Great negotiations. In 60 days you know what we're going to have? Jack squat.

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What is the alternative?

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finish the job you promised. Unconditional surrender

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What would that include?

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go ask Trump. He said it.

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Perhaps he's accomplished what he wanted, right? So, what would you want him to do to finish the job?? Did you have an expectation of what that meant? If so, what was it?

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What did he accomplish that he wanted?

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He's gotten to a place where they can get a deal. What I find interesting is that some want him to finish the job. I really think it's them that need to let us know what they expected.

it appears obvious that Trump is at a place where he is content, for the time being. BTW, I'm not here to read anyone's mind, so, please enlighten us on your expectations.

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I think this has been a total disaster and any deal he can make isn't going to be nearly as good as the JCPOA he withdrew from.

Unfortunately, we'll have to live with the lives already lost, economic hits, and would rather spend the potential $300 billion on our own citizens instead of rebuilding Iran after bombing them.

What are your expectations?

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What $300 billion are you talking about?

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He's still watching MSNOW apparently...

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This is not a peace deal. There is an understanding that they will continue talking and try to reach a peace deal in 60 days. If Iran does not behave they will get bombed. If they start meeting certain criteria, then they will slowly get some of the funds that have been frozen. What we have right now is a pause. Iran has a choice to make. Do what they signed on to do or be obliterated. No U. S. Forces are going anywhere for a while. Trump has all the leverage. Obama never had any.

Again let it play out and see where we go. There is plenty in the works behind the scenes. Americans don't want troops on the ground. Ok then we destroy them economically where they have to either give in or get destroyed. Trump is giving them an out to save face, but he is not letting them off the hook.

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Yeah, I'm not buying that. This regime murdered tens of thousands of their own citizens, they were responsible for October 7th, they are responsible for the war in Gaza, and they have consistently maintained their main goal is to eradicate Israel off the map and to murder as many Americans as possible.

As a reward for all this, the US is now going to allow Iran to become richer than they have in the last 47 years.

Great negotiations. In 60 days you know what we're going to have? Jack squat.

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What is the alternative?

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finish the job you promised. Unconditional surrender

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What would that include?

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go ask Trump. He said it.

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Perhaps he's accomplished what he wanted, right? So, what would you want him to do to finish the job?? Did you have an expectation of what that meant? If so, what was it?

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What did he accomplish that he wanted?

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He's gotten to a place where they can get a deal. What I find interesting is that some want him to finish the job. I really think it's them that need to let us know what they expected.

it appears obvious that Trump is at a place where he is content, for the time being. BTW, I'm not here to read anyone's mind, so, please enlighten us on your expectations.

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I think this has been a total disaster and any deal he can make isn't going to be nearly as good as the JCPOA he withdrew from.

Unfortunately, we'll have to live with the lives already lost, economic hits, and would rather spend the potential $300 billion on our own citizens instead of rebuilding Iran after bombing them.

What are your expectations?

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What $300 billion are you talking about?

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He's still watching MSNOW apparently...

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Must be

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What $300 billion are you talking about?

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Gulf don't engage with them. You can tell them the truth and they still are going to stick to the stupid talking points. They are brain dead robots for the most part.

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What $300 billion are you talking about?

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Gulf don't engage with them. You can tell them the truth and they still are going to stick to the stupid talking points. They are brain dead robots for the most part.

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It's the team that has struck out every at bat for the entire season and finally have made contact. They're all cheering but it will melt away like ice cream on a hot July 4th day

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This is not a peace deal. There is an understanding that they will continue talking and try to reach a peace deal in 60 days. If Iran does not behave they will get bombed. If they start meeting certain criteria, then they will slowly get some of the funds that have been frozen. What we have right now is a pause. Iran has a choice to make. Do what they signed on to do or be obliterated. No U. S. Forces are going anywhere for a while. Trump has all the leverage. Obama never had any.

Again let it play out and see where we go. There is plenty in the works behind the scenes. Americans don't want troops on the ground. Ok then we destroy them economically where they have to either give in or get destroyed. Trump is giving them an out to save face, but he is not letting them off the hook.

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Yeah, I'm not buying that. This regime murdered tens of thousands of their own citizens, they were responsible for October 7th, they are responsible for the war in Gaza, and they have consistently maintained their main goal is to eradicate Israel off the map and to murder as many Americans as possible.

As a reward for all this, the US is now going to allow Iran to become richer than they have in the last 47 years.

Great negotiations. In 60 days you know what we're going to have? Jack squat.

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What is the alternative?

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finish the job you promised. Unconditional surrender

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What would that include?

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go ask Trump. He said it.

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Perhaps he's accomplished what he wanted, right? So, what would you want him to do to finish the job?? Did you have an expectation of what that meant? If so, what was it?

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What did he accomplish that he wanted?

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He's gotten to a place where they can get a deal. What I find interesting is that some want him to finish the job. I really think it's them that need to let us know what they expected.

it appears obvious that Trump is at a place where he is content, for the time being. BTW, I'm not here to read anyone's mind, so, please enlighten us on your expectations.

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I think this has been a total disaster and any deal he can make isn't going to be nearly as good as the JCPOA he withdrew from.

Unfortunately, we'll have to live with the lives already lost, economic hits, and would rather spend the potential $300 billion on our own citizens instead of rebuilding Iran after bombing them.

What are your expectations?

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What $300 billion are you talking about?

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He's still watching MSNOW apparently...

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Must be

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Are y'all being intentionally obtuse or are you not aware about the $300 billion redevelopment fund that's a component of the deal?

Or are you hiding behind "yeah but but but that money's not coming from the US government?"

Again, the deal sucks in many ways including this one. The Obama deal Trump hated had a fraction of that capital (and similarly it did not come from the US government) allocated as incentive to behave.

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eljefe literally said he "rather spend $300 billion on our on citizens" so I was asking him what he is talking about? I get the feeling he is misinformed.

As I said 500 times in the last three pages of this thread, I skeptical Iran will meet the requirements for any money to make it to them. If you don't like this part of the deal, take it up with the gulf coast nations.