.........and we're crying about Duke losing govt funding for research. #daGobbler's passionate, no, it's peripheral whining and better known as the behavior exhibited by a spoiled petulant child.

It can also be simply #WrongAgain.

Mark Kelly accused Tulsi Gabbard of spreading Russian and Iranian propaganda during her confirmation for telling the truth about Obama & the CIA destabilizing Syria by trying to overthrow Assad, warning it would lead to chaos and the persecution of Christians. Tulsi was right. pic.twitter.com/InNJgTtZyH

— Murray 🇺🇸 (@Rothbard1776) March 8, 2025

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Here's an example of why this won't work.

The V Foundation for Cancer Research has raised over $353 million since its founding in 1993. The foundation's endowment covers administrative expenses, so 100% of direct donations go to cancer research.

$353M is great and goes strictly to research, but that's over a 31 year period. Your idea won't generate the money for research related indirect costs. Who's going to donate to such a thing?

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It's just one foundation, and, it's not directly related to a specific University.

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You're right, my apologies. I'm just passionate about it.

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Hokie, you and I agree on research to solve different epidemics, diseases, etc…. I think we just disagree on the funding source.

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.........and we're crying about Duke losing govt funding for research. #daGobbler's passionate, no, it's peripheral whining and better known as the behavior exhibited by a spoiled petulant child.

It can also be simply #WrongAgain.

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Were, let's keep the name calling towards Smapty…

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Werewolf said:

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.........and we're crying about Duke losing govt funding for research. #daGobbler's passionate, no, it's peripheral whining and better known as the behavior exhibited by a spoiled petulant child.

It can also be simply #WrongAgain.

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Were, let's keep the name calling towards Smapty…

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There isn't much difference. Both are #WrongAgain. The world has been in the process of being burnt to the ground and we've got one guy with the balls to step up, risk it all and attempt to save this republic. Once again, we've got a petulant child whining about some extraneous issue that he desperately wants to be a grievance against Trump and the MAGA movement. He's been shooting off at the mouth for a while......and it's #boomerang time. It's time for #daCrow to be ingested, over and over again.

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You're right, my apologies. I'm just passionate about it.

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Hokie, you and I agree on research to solve different epidemics, diseases, etc…. I think we just disagree on the funding source.

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The fallacy of the "funding source" argument WRT federal government spending on things like NIH, USAID, IRS agents, etc. is these sorts of cuts literally solve nothing especially with looming tax cuts that will further cut revenue. They're all downside window dressing.

And if you say they're not, that these cuts in conjunction with tax cuts get us meaningfully closer to a balanced budget, then show us the math.

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The fallacy of the tax cuts argument is: tax revenues never go down. They continue a natural trend upwards. So, as long as the natural upward happens, and we continue the 1.5 - 2.0 trillion in yearly deficits, something has to change.

You really can't tax enough, without destroying the economy, to make up for the deficit we have. So, as has been the case forever, this isn't a taxing issue; rather, it's a spending issue. It's time for the wrecking ball!!!

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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You're right, my apologies. I'm just passionate about it.

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Hokie, you and I agree on research to solve different epidemics, diseases, etc…. I think we just disagree on the funding source.

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The fallacy of the "funding source" argument WRT federal government spending on things like NIH, USAID, IRS agents, etc. is these sorts of cuts literally solve nothing especially with looming tax cuts that will further cut revenue. They're all downside window dressing.

And if you say they're not, that these cuts in conjunction with tax cuts get us meaningfully closer to a balanced budget, then show us the math.

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The fallacy of the tax cuts argument is: tax revenues never go down. They continue a natural trend upwards. So, as long as the natural upward happens, and we continue the 1.5 - 2.0 trillion in yearly deficits, something has to change.

You really can't tax enough, without destroying the economy, to make up for the deficit we have. So, as has been the case forever, this isn't a taxing issue; rather, it's a spending issue. It's time for the wrecking ball!!!

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you and I disagree on the approach. That's ok. I just think I look more at return on the investment for govt funding. Are we getting something successful that we as tax payers are paying for? I would say in this case, we're 90-95% there, depending on the institution. The wrecking ball wasn't needed. The master negotiators in the administration could have renegotiated the rates that the universities and the NIH agreed to. That would have been the way that I'd have done it.

For that $500M in TOTAL funding just here in the Triangle, you're getting almost $2B in return in revenue for the State. Why is that a bad thing?
And this really isn't a grievance against Trump, I just don't like the process. I think the outcome could have been better.

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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You're right, my apologies. I'm just passionate about it.

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Hokie, you and I agree on research to solve different epidemics, diseases, etc…. I think we just disagree on the funding source.

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The fallacy of the "funding source" argument WRT federal government spending on things like NIH, USAID, IRS agents, etc. is these sorts of cuts literally solve nothing especially with looming tax cuts that will further cut revenue. They're all downside window dressing.

And if you say they're not, that these cuts in conjunction with tax cuts get us meaningfully closer to a balanced budget, then show us the math.

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#daSieve is back, safely on shore, LOL.

.........and when Trump misses by a billion dollars you and #daGobbler will whine and celebrate.

You and #daGobbler will whine petulantly about every penny of inflation too. There will be some inflation and it will be temporary as Trump undertakes this Herculean task. I'm for saving the republic no matter the pain we endure. It's NOW, or NEVER.

Question being asked in MAGA right now is "when we get this ship sailing again who is ready to take the helm...... How can we keep America stay engaged such that we don't find ourselves on a sinking ship once again? Will an awakened country fall passively asleep once again?

By the way, many more punches to be thrown on the global stage.

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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You're right, my apologies. I'm just passionate about it.

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Hokie, you and I agree on research to solve different epidemics, diseases, etc…. I think we just disagree on the funding source.

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The fallacy of the "funding source" argument WRT federal government spending on things like NIH, USAID, IRS agents, etc. is these sorts of cuts literally solve nothing especially with looming tax cuts that will further cut revenue. They're all downside window dressing.

And if you say they're not, that these cuts in conjunction with tax cuts get us meaningfully closer to a balanced budget, then show us the math.

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#daSieve is back, safely on shore, LOL.

.........and when Trump misses by a billion dollars you and #daGobbler will whine and celebrate.

You and #daGobbler will whine petulantly about every penny of inflation too. There will be some inflation and it will be temporary as Trump undertakes this Herculean task. I'm for saving the republic no matter the pain we endure. It's NOW, or NEVER.

Question being asked in MAGA right now is "when we get this ship sailing again who is ready to take the helm...... How can we keep America stay engaged such that we don't find ourselves on a sinking ship once again? Will an awakened country fall passively asleep once again?

By the way, many more punches to be thrown on the global stage.

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I thought we weren't globalists anymore. Maybe you should change your rhetoric to punches thrown in the Americas, because the US is heading toward regional power status.

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Werewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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You're right, my apologies. I'm just passionate about it.

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Hokie, you and I agree on research to solve different epidemics, diseases, etc…. I think we just disagree on the funding source.

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The fallacy of the "funding source" argument WRT federal government spending on things like NIH, USAID, IRS agents, etc. is these sorts of cuts literally solve nothing especially with looming tax cuts that will further cut revenue. They're all downside window dressing.

And if you say they're not, that these cuts in conjunction with tax cuts get us meaningfully closer to a balanced budget, then show us the math.

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#daSieve is back, safely on shore, LOL.

.........and when Trump misses by a billion dollars you and #daGobbler will whine and celebrate.

You and #daGobbler will whine petulantly about every penny of inflation too. There will be some inflation and it will be temporary as Trump undertakes this Herculean task. I'm for saving the republic no matter the pain we endure. It's NOW, or NEVER.

Question being asked in MAGA right now is "when we get this ship sailing again who is ready to take the helm...... How can we keep America stay engaged such that we don't find ourselves on a sinking ship once again? Will an awakened country fall passively asleep once again?

By the way, many more punches to be thrown on the global stage.

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I thought we weren't globalists anymore.

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Who's "We"?

This #ConvictedAsAFelon, much like the other one, knows a thing or two. It's much bigger, on a global scale, that we now recognize.

🚨🚨 DOGE IS FINDING THE PATH OF MONEY 🚨🚨

We Are Going To Find A Path of MONEY going Over To UKRAINE - all these other countries ROMANIA - YOU MENTIONED IT. AND THAT FLOW COMES RIGHT BACK TO THE COFFERS Of Washington D.C. pic.twitter.com/PqU9BGJoAu

— JOSH DUNLAP (@JDunlap1974) February 28, 2025

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hokiewolf said:

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Werewolf said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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You're right, my apologies. I'm just passionate about it.

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Hokie, you and I agree on research to solve different epidemics, diseases, etc…. I think we just disagree on the funding source.

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The fallacy of the "funding source" argument WRT federal government spending on things like NIH, USAID, IRS agents, etc. is these sorts of cuts literally solve nothing especially with looming tax cuts that will further cut revenue. They're all downside window dressing.

And if you say they're not, that these cuts in conjunction with tax cuts get us meaningfully closer to a balanced budget, then show us the math.

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#daSieve is back, safely on shore, LOL.

.........and when Trump misses by a billion dollars you and #daGobbler will whine and celebrate.

You and #daGobbler will whine petulantly about every penny of inflation too. There will be some inflation and it will be temporary as Trump undertakes this Herculean task. I'm for saving the republic no matter the pain we endure. It's NOW, or NEVER.

Question being asked in MAGA right now is "when we get this ship sailing again who is ready to take the helm...... How can we keep America stay engaged such that we don't find ourselves on a sinking ship once again? Will an awakened country fall passively asleep once again?

By the way, many more punches to be thrown on the global stage.

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I thought we weren't globalists anymore.

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Who's "We"?

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#Gobbler, you walked right into that one. All your making, LOL.

You clearly don't understand what's going on in the world. You're not even close, so sad, but true. You don't understand who the enemies are, you don't even see the mostly-silent war underway.

We've been a captured nation for many years but we're breaking out of captivity now. Watch the bad guys push back, you have eyes and ears, use em'.

“An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes.”

- Sun Tzu

— Camden (@camdenjamesweis) March 1, 2025

hokiewolf said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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You're right, my apologies. I'm just passionate about it.

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Hokie, you and I agree on research to solve different epidemics, diseases, etc…. I think we just disagree on the funding source.

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The fallacy of the "funding source" argument WRT federal government spending on things like NIH, USAID, IRS agents, etc. is these sorts of cuts literally solve nothing especially with looming tax cuts that will further cut revenue. They're all downside window dressing.

And if you say they're not, that these cuts in conjunction with tax cuts get us meaningfully closer to a balanced budget, then show us the math.

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The fallacy of the tax cuts argument is: tax revenues never go down. They continue a natural trend upwards. So, as long as the natural upward happens, and we continue the 1.5 - 2.0 trillion in yearly deficits, something has to change.

You really can't tax enough, without destroying the economy, to make up for the deficit we have. So, as has been the case forever, this isn't a taxing issue; rather, it's a spending issue. It's time for the wrecking ball!!!

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you and I disagree on the approach. That's ok. I just think I look more at return on the investment for govt funding. Are we getting something successful that we as tax payers are paying for? I would say in this case, we're 90-95% there, depending on the institution. The wrecking ball wasn't needed. The master negotiators in the administration could have renegotiated the rates that the universities and the NIH agreed to. That would have been the way that I'd have done it.

For that $500M in TOTAL funding just here in the Triangle, you're getting almost $2B in return in revenue for the State. Why is that a bad thing?
And this really isn't a grievance against Trump, I just don't like the process. I think the outcome could have been better.

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I've never said the funding didn't have a return, in fact, I don't know and/or haven't researched it. That still doesn't change my opinion on private sector investments. Now, I could agree with you on government funding for our State Universities, if the funding was done by State taxpayers and the State of NC did the investments.

I'm of the opinion that the Federal Government doesn't need to be doing this. The Federal Government doesn't a required Balanced Budget; whereas, States do…

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/civil-war-now-official-syria-erupts-worst-bloodshed-assads-fall

Fair enough. We disagree, but that's ok.

Magic beans.

On shoring all Canadian aluminum would require "over 40 million megawatt-hours of electricity. This is nearly four and a half times the annual electricity production of the Hoover Dam, enough to power 460 data centers or the entire state of Nevada for a year"… pic.twitter.com/dHWKC9lhee

— Scott Lincicome (@scottlincicome) March 9, 2025

Werewolf said:

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Werewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Werewolf said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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You're right, my apologies. I'm just passionate about it.

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Hokie, you and I agree on research to solve different epidemics, diseases, etc…. I think we just disagree on the funding source.

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The fallacy of the "funding source" argument WRT federal government spending on things like NIH, USAID, IRS agents, etc. is these sorts of cuts literally solve nothing especially with looming tax cuts that will further cut revenue. They're all downside window dressing.

And if you say they're not, that these cuts in conjunction with tax cuts get us meaningfully closer to a balanced budget, then show us the math.

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#daSieve is back, safely on shore, LOL.

.........and when Trump misses by a billion dollars you and #daGobbler will whine and celebrate.

You and #daGobbler will whine petulantly about every penny of inflation too. There will be some inflation and it will be temporary as Trump undertakes this Herculean task. I'm for saving the republic no matter the pain we endure. It's NOW, or NEVER.

Question being asked in MAGA right now is "when we get this ship sailing again who is ready to take the helm...... How can we keep America stay engaged such that we don't find ourselves on a sinking ship once again? Will an awakened country fall passively asleep once again?

By the way, many more punches to be thrown on the global stage.

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I thought we weren't globalists anymore.

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Who's "We"?

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#Gobbler, you walked right into that one. All your making, LOL.

You clearly don't understand what's going on in the world. You're not even close, so sad, but true. You don't understand who the enemies are, you don't even see the mostly-silent war underway.

We've been a captured nation for many years but we're breaking out of captivity now. Watch the bad guys push back, you have eyes and ears, use em'.

“An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes.”

- Sun Tzu

— Camden (@camdenjamesweis) March 1, 2025

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the bad guys will be powers in their regions now, Russia in Europe, China in the East. That's the clear path we are taking. I see that as a terrible idea, you don't. We'll see how it works out I suppose. I suspect not what you're expecting though.

Treating our allies like enemies will break the US, not make it stronger.

Your quote is correct, but you want ashes. I don't.

Tariffs, the gift that keeps on giving.

Good pt here from @crampell: the Trump admin has suggested Americans fight high egg prices by raising their own chickens - even as they put tariffs on the wood & wire you'd need to build a coophttps://t.co/8kQcC62bCD pic.twitter.com/az4W19RPgc

— Scott Lincicome (@scottlincicome) March 9, 2025

clearly you demonstrate your inability in understanding. Its why u r 0 fer whatever ...

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clearly you demonstrate your inability in understanding. Its why u r 0 fer whatever ...

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its why your predictions are forever wrong. But they are a hoot though!

you have been wrong on everything of significance. You're trending to continue that way.

George W Bush put a 30% tariff on steel and in two weeks the unions raised their prices 25% -what good did it do! Obama put a 28% tariff on chinese plywood and in a few months plywood went up 14% . Trump just as stupid if he don't block unions etc. Dad told me in the 70's labor unions will destroy America -seems like its coming true!

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Werewolf said:

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.........and we're crying about Duke losing govt funding for research. #daGobbler's passionate, no, it's peripheral whining and better known as the behavior exhibited by a spoiled petulant child.

It can also be simply #WrongAgain.

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Were, let's keep the name calling towards Smapty…

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There isn't much difference. Both are #WrongAgain. The world has been in the process of being burnt to the ground and we've got one guy with the balls to step up, risk it all and attempt to save this republic. Once again, we've got a petulant child whining about some extraneous issue that he desperately wants to be a grievance against Trump and the MAGA movement. He's been shooting off at the mouth for a while......and it's #boomerang time. It's time for #daCrow to be ingested, over and over again.

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Again, keep the petulant child comments to the only person that truly has earned it… Smapty.

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Lol, it's a badge of honor.

Here in grown up world, when you start sputtering and name-calling you may as well be holding up a sign that says "I don't really know anything but I'm super mad anyway".

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caryking said:

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Werewolf said:

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caryking said:

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Werewolf said:

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.........and we're crying about Duke losing govt funding for research. #daGobbler's passionate, no, it's peripheral whining and better known as the behavior exhibited by a spoiled petulant child.

It can also be simply #WrongAgain.

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Were, let's keep the name calling towards Smapty…

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There isn't much difference. Both are #WrongAgain. The world has been in the process of being burnt to the ground and we've got one guy with the balls to step up, risk it all and attempt to save this republic. Once again, we've got a petulant child whining about some extraneous issue that he desperately wants to be a grievance against Trump and the MAGA movement. He's been shooting off at the mouth for a while......and it's #boomerang time. It's time for #daCrow to be ingested, over and over again.

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Again, keep the petulant child comments to the only person that truly has earned it… Smapty.

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Lol, it's a badge of honor.

Here in grow up world, when you start sputtering and name-calling you may as well be holding up a sign that says "I don't really know anything but I'm super mad anyway".

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Funny you say that…. All you do is insult people. We all know that you know nothing…

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Explaining to someone in detail why they're just stoned out of their gourd on outrage porn isn't the same thing as name-calling. I'd be thrilled if you ever tried to explain how any of your "burn it all down" belief system might actually work. It's more than clear you have no idea.

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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You're right, my apologies. I'm just passionate about it.

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Hokie, you and I agree on research to solve different epidemics, diseases, etc…. I think we just disagree on the funding source.

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The fallacy of the "funding source" argument WRT federal government spending on things like NIH, USAID, IRS agents, etc. is these sorts of cuts literally solve nothing especially with looming tax cuts that will further cut revenue. They're all downside window dressing.

And if you say they're not, that these cuts in conjunction with tax cuts get us meaningfully closer to a balanced budget, then show us the math.

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The fallacy of the tax cuts argument is: tax revenues never go down. They continue a natural trend upwards. So, as long as the natural upward happens, and we continue the 1.5 - 2.0 trillion in yearly deficits, something has to change.

You really can't tax enough, without destroying the economy, to make up for the deficit we have. So, as has been the case forever, this isn't a taxing issue; rather, it's a spending issue. It's time for the wrecking ball!!!

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The fallacy is that you always focus on dollar amounts (instead of % of GDP) that never take into account things like inflation or our growing population and our growing GDP.

The only question is: do you really not understand this stuff, or are you in on the con?

For about 5 decades now is has been a deliberate strategy by conservatives to keep cutting taxes and adding it to the deficit. They even have a name for it. Ever wonder why Republicans always do that over and over? It's because THEY WANT A DEFICIT CRISES so that the "solution" will be to gut the entitlements that they're ideologically opposed to.

That's it! That's the crises, and we can fix it tomorrow. Just stop doing that!

Fun fact: We could raise taxes across the board like 3% and be completely sustainable with zero cuts. Crises averted.

Tyranny around the globe and tyranny at home. This is one of several ways tyranny can be applied.

Let me get this straight, Democrats lost their mind over Elon Musk and DOGE having access to American’s data

BUT

A PRIVATE Democrat law firm FUNDED BY GEORGE SOROS called Perkins Coie has access to classified information and security clearances

Over $22 MILLION in George Soros… pic.twitter.com/8LmKZm4Ubs

— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) March 8, 2025

A PRIVATE Democrat law firm FUNDED BY GEORGE SOROS called Perkins Coie has access to classified information and security clearances

Over $22 MILLION in George Soros linked payments:

- $5 million: Direct donation to Perkins Coie's political law practice prior to 2016, reportedly for funding lawsuits challenging state election laws.
- $3 million: Sole donation to the Immigrant Voters Win PAC, set up by Perkins Coie lawyer Jonathan Berkon, linked to Soros's support for immigrant voting initiatives.
- $1.7 million: Donation to the Philadelphia Justice & Public Safety PAC (registered at Perkins Coie's D.C. office) to support Larry Krasner's 2017 DA campaign.
- $9.5 million: Donation to Priorities USA (a Democratic-aligned super PAC that has retained Perkins Coie), linked to Soros's broader election influence efforts
- $1 million: Contribution from Alex Soros (George Soros's son) to Priorities USA, also noted in posts found on X, potentially tied to Perkins Coie's legal services.

AND IT GETS WORSE

Mike Davis, "The commander in chief, the president and the president alone gets to decide who has access to classified information. So if the president of the United States doesn't want Perkins Coie or any other law firm or person to have access to classified information, that is his absolute right"

This law firm Perkins Coie is responsible for

- Making up the Russian collusion hoax back in 2016
- They then ran to the FISA court and got an illegal spy warrant
- Lied to the FISA court, got an illegal spy warrant on then presidential candidate Donald Trump
- They continued to spy on President Donald Trump when he was the president of the United States
- They colluded with intel agencies and law enforcement to make up crossfire hurricane (With our nation's most classified secrets because they politicized and weaponized crossfire hurricane, which is the biggest scandal in American history.)
- They continued the lawfare against president Trump after he left office, the four indictments for non-crimes
- They tried to throw him off the ballot under a bogus theory under the constitution
- They underfunded Trump's secret service protection and tried to take off hia head
- They were also directly involved with Barack Obama's birth certificate

"So this law firm has proven that it can't be trusted"

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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You're right, my apologies. I'm just passionate about it.

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Hokie, you and I agree on research to solve different epidemics, diseases, etc…. I think we just disagree on the funding source.

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The fallacy of the "funding source" argument WRT federal government spending on things like NIH, USAID, IRS agents, etc. is these sorts of cuts literally solve nothing especially with looming tax cuts that will further cut revenue. They're all downside window dressing.

And if you say they're not, that these cuts in conjunction with tax cuts get us meaningfully closer to a balanced budget, then show us the math.

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The fallacy of the tax cuts argument is: tax revenues never go down. They continue a natural trend upwards. So, as long as the natural upward happens, and we continue the 1.5 - 2.0 trillion in yearly deficits, something has to change.

You really can't tax enough, without destroying the economy, to make up for the deficit we have. So, as has been the case forever, this isn't a taxing issue; rather, it's a spending issue. It's time for the wrecking ball!!!

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The fallacy is that you always focus on dollar amounts (instead of % of GDP) that never take into account things like inflation or our growing population and our growing GDP.

The only question is: do you really not understand this stuff, or are you in on the con?

For about 5 decades now is has been a deliberate strategy by conservatives to keep cutting taxes and adding it to the deficit. They even have a name for it. Ever wonder why Republicans always do that over and over? It's because THEY WANT A DEFICIT CRISES so that the "solution" will be to gut the entitlements that they're ideologically opposed to.

That's it! That's the crises, and we can fix it tomorrow. Just stop doing that!

Fun fact: We could raise taxes across the board like 3% and be completely sustainable with zero cuts. Crises averted.

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Exactly. That's the math.

Or if you think we can cut taxes, and also continue not fully collecting taxes that aren't cut, show the math about how many IRS agents and USAID-like departments you have to cut to get the federal government where it needs to be.

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SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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You're right, my apologies. I'm just passionate about it.

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Hokie, you and I agree on research to solve different epidemics, diseases, etc…. I think we just disagree on the funding source.

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The fallacy of the "funding source" argument WRT federal government spending on things like NIH, USAID, IRS agents, etc. is these sorts of cuts literally solve nothing especially with looming tax cuts that will further cut revenue. They're all downside window dressing.

And if you say they're not, that these cuts in conjunction with tax cuts get us meaningfully closer to a balanced budget, then show us the math.

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The fallacy of the tax cuts argument is: tax revenues never go down. They continue a natural trend upwards. So, as long as the natural upward happens, and we continue the 1.5 - 2.0 trillion in yearly deficits, something has to change.

You really can't tax enough, without destroying the economy, to make up for the deficit we have. So, as has been the case forever, this isn't a taxing issue; rather, it's a spending issue. It's time for the wrecking ball!!!

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The fallacy is that you always focus on dollar amounts (instead of % of GDP) that never take into account things like inflation or our growing population and our growing GDP.

The only question is: do you really not understand this stuff, or are you in on the con?

For about 5 decades now is has been a deliberate strategy by conservatives to keep cutting taxes and adding it to the deficit. They even have a name for it. Ever wonder why Republicans always do that over and over? It's because THEY WANT A DEFICIT CRISES so that the "solution" will be to gut the entitlements that they're ideologically opposed to.

That's it! That's the crises, and we can fix it tomorrow. Just stop doing that!

Fun fact: We could raise taxes across the board like 3% and be completely sustainable with zero cuts. Crises averted.

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Exactly. That's the math.

Or if you think we can cut taxes, and also continue not fully collecting taxes that aren't cut, show the math about how many IRS agents and USAID-like departments you have to cut to get the federal government where it needs to be.

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Civ, that's just dumb..

I love this fad to meme JD Vance in everything

https://instagr.am/p/DG9L15POpl0

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caryking said:

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Civilized said:

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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You're right, my apologies. I'm just passionate about it.

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Hokie, you and I agree on research to solve different epidemics, diseases, etc…. I think we just disagree on the funding source.

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The fallacy of the "funding source" argument WRT federal government spending on things like NIH, USAID, IRS agents, etc. is these sorts of cuts literally solve nothing especially with looming tax cuts that will further cut revenue. They're all downside window dressing.

And if you say they're not, that these cuts in conjunction with tax cuts get us meaningfully closer to a balanced budget, then show us the math.

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The fallacy of the tax cuts argument is: tax revenues never go down. They continue a natural trend upwards. So, as long as the natural upward happens, and we continue the 1.5 - 2.0 trillion in yearly deficits, something has to change.

You really can't tax enough, without destroying the economy, to make up for the deficit we have. So, as has been the case forever, this isn't a taxing issue; rather, it's a spending issue. It's time for the wrecking ball!!!

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The fallacy is that you always focus on dollar amounts (instead of % of GDP) that never take into account things like inflation or our growing population and our growing GDP.

The only question is: do you really not understand this stuff, or are you in on the con?

For about 5 decades now is has been a deliberate strategy by conservatives to keep cutting taxes and adding it to the deficit. They even have a name for it. Ever wonder why Republicans always do that over and over? It's because THEY WANT A DEFICIT CRISES so that the "solution" will be to gut the entitlements that they're ideologically opposed to.

That's it! That's the crises, and we can fix it tomorrow. Just stop doing that!

Fun fact: We could raise taxes across the board like 3% and be completely sustainable with zero cuts. Crises averted.

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It's amazing how stupid you are to think I'm stupid enough to "not" understand revenues most always relate to a percent of GDP. In fact, you can clearly see that in the graphs.

Now, it's stupid of you to say the Trump tax cuts (or tax cuts by Republicans) caused a big hole in the deficit. So, take your own (bolded) statement and rationalize your own idiocy…

BTW, look at the first year of Biden, with the Trump tax plan and see ballooning revenues…. You're just blind by your ideology to see the raw data. Oh that's right, you wouldn't be able to see…. You believe your old defunct company deserved a bailout…

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The Trump tax cuts did contribute $1.5T to the debt, but hell Covid response was $4T. Still though, the key is paying for entitlements, which seems to be conveniently ignored by everyone.

Lol

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