Apparently, Kanye and others are referring to this documentary available on Prime.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/nba-star-kyrie-irving-posts-tweet-promoting-anti-semitic-documentary/

Hebrew to Negroes: Wake Up Black America

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The documentary is based on a 2015 book of the same name. It advocates many of the central conspiratorial and anti-Semitic tenets of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, which believes black people are the true descendants of the biblical Israelites. The sourcebook also heavily quotes the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a hoax text originating in Tsarist Russia which claimed a Jewish conspiracy controls world markets and media.

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When a celebrity or anyone of prominence says something that is "controversial" (according to the Establishment), why is there often this hyper-emotional reaction to immediately label the person saying those things as "crazy" and then to try to censor and silence them?

Remember, for example, when Tom Cruise came out against the use of Ritalin for treatment of "ADHD", he was attacked in this manner?

That kind of hysterical overreaction just throws up a big red flag that what the person is saying has some level of truth to it...because they are being attacked falsely and trying to be silenced.

Why is the subject of jewish power and influence so "taboo"?? Once again, if a black celebrity were to allege that "white" people were in power in our society and oppressing people, then that wouldn't be seen as controversial at all. So white people can be attacked all day long, but one small criticism of jews and the person has to be silenced and their life destroyed?? Huhhh????

Why are jewish people so "special" that they cannot be criticized??

Yep. I agree with you this time...

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Apparently, Kanye and others are referring to this documentary available on Prime.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/nba-star-kyrie-irving-posts-tweet-promoting-anti-semitic-documentary/

Hebrew to Negroes: Wake Up Black America

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The documentary is based on a 2015 book of the same name. It advocates many of the central conspiratorial and anti-Semitic tenets of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, which believes black people are the true descendants of the biblical Israelites. The sourcebook also heavily quotes the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a hoax text originating in Tsarist Russia which claimed a Jewish conspiracy controls world markets and media.

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This all tracks with Kyrie being a flat-earther.

It's conspiracy theory (and in this case, racist) lunacy dressed up being intellectual or contrarian or anti-establishment.

It's more "doing his own research" run amok.

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So curious....

When Ilhan Omar as a House member was tweeting antisemitic garbage, was she "in need of help" or "not all there" or in "distress"? Was she completely cut off and cut out of her work? Was she booted out of Congress?

If any of those answers are no, what is the difference?

(Note: we all know the difference here)

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Dude, Ye was diagnosed with bipolar disorder years ago and has a long history of very erratic behavior.

Him being "in need of help" has long-since been established. His mental health struggles have been very public.

Does any of that apply to Omar?

Her past remarks are fraught as hell because she's very pro-Palestinian and is diving into the very loaded and sensitive topic of the relationship between Israel and the US. It is very hard engage in robust debate on the US/Israel/Palestine debate and not misstep some, even in the best of circumstances. She's misstepped some, and she's apologized for remarks that come across as insensitive.

I'm not saying she's or her pointed debating style are above reproach, I'm just saying there's no evidence she's mentally ill and supporting loony conspiracy theories like there is with Ye.

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Apparently, Kanye and others are referring to this documentary available on Prime.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/nba-star-kyrie-irving-posts-tweet-promoting-anti-semitic-documentary/

Hebrew to Negroes: Wake Up Black America

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The documentary is based on a 2015 book of the same name. It advocates many of the central conspiratorial and anti-Semitic tenets of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, which believes black people are the true descendants of the biblical Israelites. The sourcebook also heavily quotes the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a hoax text originating in Tsarist Russia which claimed a Jewish conspiracy controls world markets and media.

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This all tracks with Kyrie being a flat-earther.

It's conspiracy theory (and in this case, racist) lunacy dressed up being intellectual or contrarian or anti-establishment.

It's more "doing his own research" run amok.

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As should be obvious to everyone by now, if something is labeled a "conspiracy theory" by the Establishment then that is just a gigantic red flag that someone is telling a verboten truth on a very important subject.

The label "conspiracy theorist" is just a super lame and lazy way to knee-jerk dismiss and faux "discredit" something without even trying to address the substance of the argument.

And that's what's going on here with what Kanye is talking about with the subject of jewish power and influence in the media, international banking, etc. How about we address the substance of the issue instead of throwing round lame smear terms like "conspiracy theorist" and "loons"? Do jews have this power, in fact, or not??

I don't know the details about the film Kyrie is referring to, but just based on that description and from my own research about the only thing they are wrong about is Africans being descendants of the Israelites. I've found that the Northern European peoples are the true descendants of the Israelites. The vast majority of so-called "jews" are actually not descended from the Israelites, but are rather descended from the Canaanites and Khazars.

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So curious....

When Ilhan Omar as a House member was tweeting antisemitic garbage, was she "in need of help" or "not all there" or in "distress"? Was she completely cut off and cut out of her work? Was she booted out of Congress?

If any of those answers are no, what is the difference?

(Note: we all know the difference here)

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Dude, Ye was diagnosed with bipolar disorder years ago and has a long history of very erratic behavior.

Him being "in need of help" has long-since been established. His mental health struggles have been very public.

Does any of that apply to Omar?

Her past remarks are fraught as hell because she's very pro-Palestinian and is diving into the very loaded and sensitive topic of the relationship between Israel and the US. It is very hard engage in robust debate on the US/Israel/Palestine debate and not misstep some, even in the best of circumstances. She's misstepped some, and she's apologized for remarks that come across as insensitive.

I'm not saying she's or her pointed debating style are above reproach, I'm just saying there's no evidence she's mentally ill and supporting loony conspiracy theories like there is with Ye.

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Would you call Biden's behavior "erratic" in that case? You certainly can't understand him and clearly there's something cognitively wrong with him yet he's still President and carrying the nuclear codes with him.

You say it's "long-since been established" he's in need of help. By whom? The media? His doctor come out and say it? Inside Pack Sports message board commentators? Who, exactly, established that he's in dire need of mental medical care? Millions upon millions of people in this country struggle with mental health but that doesn't mean their opinions are less or they shouldn't be heard. I know that's not what you're saying but really, that's what the establishment wants from him, sit down, shut up and do as he's told.

As far as Omar goes, she's tweeted and been interviewed where she's said Lindsay Graham was "compromised" which is a conspiracy aimed to weaken democracy in America. But yeah, Ye went way too far by having an opinion but let's not hold people actually in Congress accountable for the same thing, or worse.

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If people like Ye and GP and Were didnt't view it as a problem Cary, there wouldn't be any reason for them to even discuss it.

Do you see anyone talking about how Chinese Americans disproportionately excel in math and science fields, or how Indian immigrants or Indian-American doctors are disproportionately represented in their field?

Those things are true also but you don't hear mentally ill celebrities spouting off tired tropes and anti-Asian social media posts about it.

Ye's views aren't simple observations, they are clearly loaded, racist comments that fuel more conspiratorial loony delusions from those already going down the conspiracy rabbit hole.

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Regarding Chinese/Asian Americans:

I do see how Asian Americans appear to disproportionately get accepted at NC State. All anyone has to do is ride around campus and think: wow, this looks out of kilter…. Especially since, a lot of kids, from NC, don't appear to get accepted…

That said, it's an appearance…

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So curious....

When Ilhan Omar as a House member was tweeting antisemitic garbage, was she "in need of help" or "not all there" or in "distress"? Was she completely cut off and cut out of her work? Was she booted out of Congress?

If any of those answers are no, what is the difference?

(Note: we all know the difference here)

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Dude, Ye was diagnosed with bipolar disorder years ago and has a long history of very erratic behavior.

Him being "in need of help" has long-since been established. His mental health struggles have been very public.

Does any of that apply to Omar?

Her past remarks are fraught as hell because she's very pro-Palestinian and is diving into the very loaded and sensitive topic of the relationship between Israel and the US. It is very hard engage in robust debate on the US/Israel/Palestine debate and not misstep some, even in the best of circumstances. She's misstepped some, and she's apologized for remarks that come across as insensitive.

I'm not saying she's or her pointed debating style are above reproach, I'm just saying there's no evidence she's mentally ill and supporting loony conspiracy theories like there is with Ye.

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Would you call Biden's behavior "erratic" in that case? You certainly can't understand him and clearly there's something cognitively wrong with him yet he's still President and carrying the nuclear codes with him.

You say it's "long-since been established" he's in need of help. By whom? The media? His doctor come out and say it? Inside Pack Sports message board commentators? Who, exactly, established that he's in dire need of mental medical care? Millions upon millions of people in this country struggle with mental health but that doesn't mean their opinions are less or they shouldn't be heard. I know that's not what you're saying but really, that's what the establishment wants from him, sit down, shut up and do as he's told.

As far as Omar goes, she's tweeted and been interviewed where she's said Lindsay Graham was "compromised" which is a conspiracy aimed to weaken democracy in America. But yeah, Ye went way too far by having an opinion but let's not hold people actually in Congress accountable for the same thing, or worse.

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Yes it's been established.

By Ye himself who publicly discusses his manic episodes and the way they affect his life.

By Ye's now-ex-wife who said explicitly at the time of their split and many times since that Ye is bipolar and who has described in detail the way the disorder affects him and his family.

By his public hospitalization for a psychiatric emergency.

By all his manic social media posts.

And on and on. I don't know why you're arguing about his mental illness, it's a settled topic that he has a diagnosed mental health disorder.

Biden seems like either early-stage dementia or maybe (but perhaps unlikely) cognitive decline due simply to aging, combined with a speech impediment. He's not fit to be president (obviously due to his cognitive decline and his bending over too often for the far left, not because of his impediment). You won't get any argument from me on that point.

You also won't get argument from me that sometimes Omar crosses the line. This has also been widely reported, and she's faced criticism from Congress and also her own party when she does.

What "the establishment" wants from Ye is to not spout off racist conspiracy theories. He's not getting criticized for having some random bad opinion about Lil Baby's new album or something.

He can have an opinion though, right? Feeling as though Jews control the media or banking or whatever is just one persons opinion. Many people have actually said that in the past, that isn't noteworthy IMO on face value.

I don't think he's said all Jews should die or anything extreme like that?

I remember when it was considered a conspiracy theory that Hunter's laptop was real, that masks didn't actually stop the spread and that the vaccine itself didn't stop the spread. Now those are just known facts.

Rick Wilson on MSNBC said that they needed to "put a bullet in Trump" and he's fine. Wasn't shunned or canceled or any of that. Again, why is it completely and totally acceptable for leftists to say these horrible things but someone that's not marching the lefts party line say anything out of turn and it's opposite? If I'm judging, I'd say calling for the assassination of a sitting US President is FAR worse than what Ye said.

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He can have an opinion though, right? Feeling as though Jews control the media or banking or whatever is just one persons opinion. Many people have actually said that in the past, that isn't noteworthy IMO on face value.

I don't think he's said all Jews should die or anything extreme like that?

I remember when it was considered a conspiracy theory that Hunter's laptop was real, that masks didn't actually stop the spread and that the vaccine itself didn't stop the spread. Now those are just known facts.

Rick Wilson on MSNBC said that they needed to "put a bullet in Trump" and he's fine. Wasn't shunned or canceled or any of that. Again, why is it completely and totally acceptable for leftists to say these horrible things but someone that's not marching the lefts party line say anything out of turn and it's opposite? If I'm judging, I'd say calling for the assassination of a sitting US President is FAR worse than what Ye said.

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Thank you Wolf H

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He can have an opinion though, right? Feeling as though Jews control the media or banking or whatever is just one persons opinion. Many people have actually said that in the past, that isn't noteworthy IMO on face value.

I don't think he's said all Jews should die or anything extreme like that?

I remember when it was considered a conspiracy theory that Hunter's laptop was real, that masks didn't actually stop the spread and that the vaccine itself didn't stop the spread. Now those are just known facts.

Rick Wilson on MSNBC said that they needed to "put a bullet in Trump" and he's fine. Wasn't shunned or canceled or any of that. Again, why is it completely and totally acceptable for leftists to say these horrible things but someone that's not marching the lefts party line say anything out of turn and it's opposite? If I'm judging, I'd say calling for the assassination of a sitting US President is FAR worse than what Ye said.

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Obviously you aren't here to talk about what Ye said, you just want to be mad about double standards so don't let me keep you from it.

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He can have an opinion though, right? Feeling as though Jews control the media or banking or whatever is just one persons opinion. Many people have actually said that in the past, that isn't noteworthy IMO on face value.

I don't think he's said all Jews should die or anything extreme like that?

I remember when it was considered a conspiracy theory that Hunter's laptop was real, that masks didn't actually stop the spread and that the vaccine itself didn't stop the spread. Now those are just known facts.

Rick Wilson on MSNBC said that they needed to "put a bullet in Trump" and he's fine. Wasn't shunned or canceled or any of that. Again, why is it completely and totally acceptable for leftists to say these horrible things but someone that's not marching the lefts party line say anything out of turn and it's opposite? If I'm judging, I'd say calling for the assassination of a sitting US President is FAR worse than what Ye said.

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Obviously you aren't here to talk about what Ye said, you just want to be mad about double standards so don't let me keep you from it.

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He's pointing out your hypocrisy......the hypocrisy for which you're oblivious too.

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He can have an opinion though, right? Feeling as though Jews control the media or banking or whatever is just one persons opinion. Many people have actually said that in the past, that isn't noteworthy IMO on face value.

I don't think he's said all Jews should die or anything extreme like that?

I remember when it was considered a conspiracy theory that Hunter's laptop was real, that masks didn't actually stop the spread and that the vaccine itself didn't stop the spread. Now those are just known facts.

Rick Wilson on MSNBC said that they needed to "put a bullet in Trump" and he's fine. Wasn't shunned or canceled or any of that. Again, why is it completely and totally acceptable for leftists to say these horrible things but someone that's not marching the lefts party line say anything out of turn and it's opposite? If I'm judging, I'd say calling for the assassination of a sitting US President is FAR worse than what Ye said.

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Obviously you aren't here to talk about what Ye said, you just want to be mad about double standards so don't let me keep you from it.

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He's pointing out your hypocrisy......the hypocrisy for which you're oblivious too.

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Damn, didn't know Civ worked for the evil mainstream media

Side hustle. Whatever it takes to make ends meet hokie.

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He can have an opinion though, right? Feeling as though Jews control the media or banking or whatever is just one persons opinion. Many people have actually said that in the past, that isn't noteworthy IMO on face value.

I don't think he's said all Jews should die or anything extreme like that?

I remember when it was considered a conspiracy theory that Hunter's laptop was real, that masks didn't actually stop the spread and that the vaccine itself didn't stop the spread. Now those are just known facts.

Rick Wilson on MSNBC said that they needed to "put a bullet in Trump" and he's fine. Wasn't shunned or canceled or any of that. Again, why is it completely and totally acceptable for leftists to say these horrible things but someone that's not marching the lefts party line say anything out of turn and it's opposite? If I'm judging, I'd say calling for the assassination of a sitting US President is FAR worse than what Ye said.

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Obviously you aren't here to talk about what Ye said, you just want to be mad about double standards so don't let me keep you from it.

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What he said was his opinion. It's called freedom of speech and is protected. He did not wish harm on anyone, he did not say they needed a bullet in them (unlike MSNBC airing that) or anything of the sort to my knowledge. If he did, please link it.

The hypocrisy and audacity of the double standards is why I really don't care what he said, one way or the other. A person tried to literally kill Justice Kavanaugh, a person tried to literally kill Lee Zeldin (GOP NY state Gov candidate), a person tried to literally kill Steve Scalise, Marco Rubio canvasser a person tried to literally kill them. All of these are conservatives targeted BECAUSE of the lefts BS attacks and how they stir the pot constantly.

So yeah, I'm kind of tired of leftists bloviating about this kind of garbage when their rhetoric is 100% going to actually get someone killed. The really sad part is, people will make excuses for it. Oh Omar didn't really mean it, she's just direct. Oh Biden didn't mean it when he called every Trump supporter a domestic terrorist, etc. etc...

But yeah, Kayne is the worst thing ever now because he wore a White Lives Matter tshirt and tweeted his opinion.

PS - I really don't like Kayne at all, as an artist or person.

Noted the you aren't a Ye fan, let me confirm, you're for his free speech rights to say what he said about Jewish people?

A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?

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Wow you have left out a lot of the antisemitic arguments Ye said in a couple of interviews as well as on line.

First things first, clearly the guy isn't all there right now for whatever reason and I hope he seeks help. 2nd, what an absolute disgrace that Tucker Carlson has exploited a clearly troubled person and is turning him into some sort of messiah that you two have fallen for.

There's no place in this world for antisemitic views nor exploiting persons within a mental health crisis for clicks and ratings.

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Define "anti-semitic". What exactly does that mean? So jews can't be criticized at all? He can't point out the obvious fact that jewish elites yield a lot of power?

Are anti-white views allowed in this world? It seems they are celebrated and even mandated. The Leftist Establishment practically demands that white people be demonized and hated.

Why these double standards?

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in his tweets, he implied that the Jewish people represent a direct threat to him and to society, it is clear antisemitism.

I don't care about double standard arguments, it's stupid to support ignorant beliefs because some idiots with different political views support equally ignorant beliefs.

Kanye West is bipolar and refuses to take medication to regulate his disorder, he is In fact not 100% in his right mind.

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Hokie, I have no idea what Kanye's mental capacity is, so, anything you say about him, may be correct. That said, I haven't kept up with all the rhetoric surrounding this story; however, if you think Jewish people haven't worked brilliantly to gain control of massive blocks of our society, you're kidding yourself.

I'm not saying it's a problem; rather, I'm saying, it's mostly true…

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ok, are you good if I replace "Jewish People" with "White Privilege"? I mean, if you don't think that white people haven't worked brilliantly to gain control of massive blocks of our society, you're kidding yourself.

Do you see the problem now with half baked tribalism thought?

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He can have an opinion though, right? Feeling as though Jews control the media or banking or whatever is just one persons opinion. Many people have actually said that in the past, that isn't noteworthy IMO on face value.

I don't think he's said all Jews should die or anything extreme like that?

I remember when it was considered a conspiracy theory that Hunter's laptop was real, that masks didn't actually stop the spread and that the vaccine itself didn't stop the spread. Now those are just known facts.

Rick Wilson on MSNBC said that they needed to "put a bullet in Trump" and he's fine. Wasn't shunned or canceled or any of that. Again, why is it completely and totally acceptable for leftists to say these horrible things but someone that's not marching the lefts party line say anything out of turn and it's opposite? If I'm judging, I'd say calling for the assassination of a sitting US President is FAR worse than what Ye said.

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Obviously you aren't here to talk about what Ye said, you just want to be mad about double standards so don't let me keep you from it.

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He's pointing out your hypocrisy......the hypocrisy for which you're oblivious too.

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Damn, didn't know Civ worked for the evil mainstream media

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I didn't either, dip.

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So curious....

When Ilhan Omar as a House member was tweeting antisemitic garbage, was she "in need of help" or "not all there" or in "distress"? Was she completely cut off and cut out of her work? Was she booted out of Congress?

If any of those answers are no, what is the difference?

(Note: we all know the difference here)

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Dude, Ye was diagnosed with bipolar disorder years ago and has a long history of very erratic behavior.

Him being "in need of help" has long-since been established. His mental health struggles have been very public.

Does any of that apply to Omar?

Her past remarks are fraught as hell because she's very pro-Palestinian and is diving into the very loaded and sensitive topic of the relationship between Israel and the US. It is very hard engage in robust debate on the US/Israel/Palestine debate and not misstep some, even in the best of circumstances. She's misstepped some, and she's apologized for remarks that come across as insensitive.

I'm not saying she's or her pointed debating style are above reproach, I'm just saying there's no evidence she's mentally ill and supporting loony conspiracy theories like there is with Ye.

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Would you call Biden's behavior "erratic" in that case? You certainly can't understand him and clearly there's something cognitively wrong with him yet he's still President and carrying the nuclear codes with him.

You say it's "long-since been established" he's in need of help. By whom? The media? His doctor come out and say it? Inside Pack Sports message board commentators? Who, exactly, established that he's in dire need of mental medical care? Millions upon millions of people in this country struggle with mental health but that doesn't mean their opinions are less or they shouldn't be heard. I know that's not what you're saying but really, that's what the establishment wants from him, sit down, shut up and do as he's told.

As far as Omar goes, she's tweeted and been interviewed where she's said Lindsay Graham was "compromised" which is a conspiracy aimed to weaken democracy in America. But yeah, Ye went way too far by having an opinion but let's not hold people actually in Congress accountable for the same thing, or worse.

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Don't denigrate the expertise and profound wisdom of Inside Pack Sports message board commentators.

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Noted the you aren't a Ye fan, let me confirm, you're for his free speech rights to say what he said about Jewish people?

A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?

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I'm for the first amendment as it was written originally. It wasn't written or designed to be "Yes free speech as long as we all agree with it".

I assume you meant "threat" vs. "treat"? Where is the threat? He didn't say go murder jews or harass or hurt jews. You are implying he meant a threat but those words at face value are not a threat.

Contrast that with Rick Wilson saying on MSNBC TV, live, that Trump needed to have a "bullet put in him" is a direct threat. There is a difference and words do matter.

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Noted the you aren't a Ye fan, let me confirm, you're for his free speech rights to say what he said about Jewish people?

A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?

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So free speech ends when it comes to talking about jews?

Why are jews so special that they cannot be criticized, and your free speech rights must be taken away if you criticize them in any way?

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Noted the you aren't a Ye fan, let me confirm, you're for his free speech rights to say what he said about Jewish people?

A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?

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So free speech ends when it comes to talking about jews?

Why are jews so special that they cannot be criticized, and your free speech rights must be taken away if you criticize them in any way?

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What specifically are you proposing to criticize them for?

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Noted the you aren't a Ye fan, let me confirm, you're for his free speech rights to say what he said about Jewish people?

A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?

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So free speech ends when it comes to talking about jews?

Why are jews so special that they cannot be criticized, and your free speech rights must be taken away if you criticize them in any way?

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What specifically are you proposing to criticize them for?

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What does it matter? Are you saying that only "certain" types of criticism should be permitted?

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Noted the you aren't a Ye fan, let me confirm, you're for his free speech rights to say what he said about Jewish people?

A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?

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So free speech ends when it comes to talking about jews?

Why are jews so special that they cannot be criticized, and your free speech rights must be taken away if you criticize them in any way?

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oh, he has all the free speech rights in the world and they shouldn't be taken away, I'm not arguing that and neither was this thread. This thread was about businesses separating themselves from Kanye West because he is free to spout ridiculous nonsense

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GuerrillaPack said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Noted the you aren't a Ye fan, let me confirm, you're for his free speech rights to say what he said about Jewish people?

A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?

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So free speech ends when it comes to talking about jews?

Why are jews so special that they cannot be criticized, and your free speech rights must be taken away if you criticize them in any way?

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What specifically are you proposing to criticize them for?

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What does it matter? Are you saying that only "certain" types of criticism should be permitted?

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It's all permitted. Nobody's free speech rights are being trampled here.

It's also permitted for companies to take action if their business interests aren't served by continuing to be aligned with Ye.

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hokiewolf said:

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Noted the you aren't a Ye fan, let me confirm, you're for his free speech rights to say what he said about Jewish people?

A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?

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So free speech ends when it comes to talking about jews?

Why are jews so special that they cannot be criticized, and your free speech rights must be taken away if you criticize them in any way?

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oh, he has all the free speech rights in the world and they shouldn't be taken away, I'm not arguing that and neither was this thread. This thread was about businesses separating themselves from Kanye West because he is free to spout ridiculous nonsense

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Right above, you said this:

"A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?"

These two statements certainly seem to contradict themselves. Either he's got a right to free speech and you don't have a problem with him exercising that right or not. You're on both sides of the fence here.

If Adidas wants to cut 10% of their business out and literally all relevancy they had with the younger generation, they are free to make that choice.

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hokiewolf said:

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Noted the you aren't a Ye fan, let me confirm, you're for his free speech rights to say what he said about Jewish people?

A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?

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So free speech ends when it comes to talking about jews?

Why are jews so special that they cannot be criticized, and your free speech rights must be taken away if you criticize them in any way?

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oh, he has all the free speech rights in the world and they shouldn't be taken away, I'm not arguing that and neither was this thread. This thread was about businesses separating themselves from Kanye West because he is free to spout ridiculous nonsense

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Right above, you said this:

"A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?"

These two statements certainly seem to contradict themselves. Either he's got a right to free speech and you don't have a problem with him exercising that right or not. You're on both sides of the fence here.

If Adidas wants to cut 10% of their business out and literally all relevancy they had with the younger generation, they are free to make that choice.

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You and others didn't think that a man having more followers than Jews on this earth saying he was going to essentially put Jews on notice isn't an antisemitic position. That's what the bolded above is speaking to, not his right to free speech.

I'm more bothered that you don't take the historical plight of the Jewish people or even the tribalistic speech by Ye into account when determining why this was a bad/dumb thing for him to say. He seems like someone who is trying to self destruct.

hokiewolf said:

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wolf howl said:

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hokiewolf said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Noted the you aren't a Ye fan, let me confirm, you're for his free speech rights to say what he said about Jewish people?

A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?

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So free speech ends when it comes to talking about jews?

Why are jews so special that they cannot be criticized, and your free speech rights must be taken away if you criticize them in any way?

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oh, he has all the free speech rights in the world and they shouldn't be taken away, I'm not arguing that and neither was this thread. This thread was about businesses separating themselves from Kanye West because he is free to spout ridiculous nonsense

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Right above, you said this:

"A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?"

These two statements certainly seem to contradict themselves. Either he's got a right to free speech and you don't have a problem with him exercising that right or not. You're on both sides of the fence here.

If Adidas wants to cut 10% of their business out and literally all relevancy they had with the younger generation, they are free to make that choice.

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You and others didn't think that a man having more followers than Jews on this earth saying he was going to essentially put Jews on notice isn't an antisemitic position. That's what the bolded above is speaking to, not his right to free speech.

I'm more bothered that you don't take the historical plight of the Jewish people or even the tribalistic speech by Ye into account when determining why this was a bad/dumb thing for him to say. He seems like someone who is trying to self destruct.

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I never said I agreed with what he said. But I agree with his right to say it. I don't agree with direct threats of which this was not IMO. You might feel different and that's fine.

He had issues with Adidas for weeks/months leading up to this and getting away from them would have probably taken them breaking the contract, not him. Maybe it's a little more calculated then is known.

wolf howl said:

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hokiewolf said:

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wolf howl said:

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hokiewolf said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Noted the you aren't a Ye fan, let me confirm, you're for his free speech rights to say what he said about Jewish people?

A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?

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So free speech ends when it comes to talking about jews?

Why are jews so special that they cannot be criticized, and your free speech rights must be taken away if you criticize them in any way?

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oh, he has all the free speech rights in the world and they shouldn't be taken away, I'm not arguing that and neither was this thread. This thread was about businesses separating themselves from Kanye West because he is free to spout ridiculous nonsense

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Right above, you said this:

"A man that has millions of more social media followers than there are Jews in the world, you don't think there's an issue using that platform to send the treat of "I'm going Deathcom 3 on the Jews"? What he meant to say was surely DEFCON 3, a defense readiness system level. You do t think that was a problem?"

These two statements certainly seem to contradict themselves. Either he's got a right to free speech and you don't have a problem with him exercising that right or not. You're on both sides of the fence here.

If Adidas wants to cut 10% of their business out and literally all relevancy they had with the younger generation, they are free to make that choice.

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You and others didn't think that a man having more followers than Jews on this earth saying he was going to essentially put Jews on notice isn't an antisemitic position. That's what the bolded above is speaking to, not his right to free speech.

I'm more bothered that you don't take the historical plight of the Jewish people or even the tribalistic speech by Ye into account when determining why this was a bad/dumb thing for him to say. He seems like someone who is trying to self destruct.

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I never said I agreed with what he said. But I agree with his right to say it. I don't agree with direct threats of which this was not IMO. You might feel different and that's fine.

He had issues with Adidas for weeks/months leading up to this and getting away from them would have probably taken them breaking the contract, not him. Maybe it's a little more calculated then is known.

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There's no one here arguing against his right to say it.

This is BIG...

At least one good thing has come from Elon Musk buying Twitter. Kanye is back and dropping some big truth bombs...

Do you remember a few years ago when Kanye was involuntarily committed to a psychiatric evaluation? It happened "coincidentally" right after Kanye spoke to a large audience on stage and made some big anti-Establishment statements (I can't recall exactly now, but I think he made some pro-Trump and anti-Hollywood statements). Then, just a few days later he suspiciously announced he was cancelling his tour (ie, pressured and forced to do so by handlers).

This is one way that prominent people, and especially celebrities are "controlled" by handlers. If they "get out of line" and speak "verboten" truths or expose the crimes of the elites/Hollywood, then they will be forcibly committed for a psychiatric evaluation and drugged.

Well, Kanye is now revealing that this is what they did to him.

What should be obvious by now is that I was raised to stand for my truth regardless of the consequences

So I will say this again I was mentally misdiagnosed and nearly drugged out of my mind to make me a manageable well behaved celebrity pic.twitter.com/3kRuxoLcts

— ye (@kanyewest) November 3, 2022

Today Kanye tweeted what he is claiming to be texts from a jewish trainer named Harley Samuel Pasternak (handler?), who allegedly threatens him, saying, quote: "Second option, I have you institutionalized again where they medicate the crap out of you and you go to Zombieland forever"

I was told that if I expose the truth of the bad business practices everything is gonna be taken from me Including my black children

And everyone has bore whiteness to the public Emmett Tilling of Ye

But GOD has put something on my heart not to backdown pic.twitter.com/HiKnVuAOls

— ye (@kanyewest) November 3, 2022

This shows Harley admitting to knowing the truth of our origin but then later dismissing the facts within the same text chain Mind you This is how a Hollywood trainer speaks to a far more influential black celebrity when we get out of line pic.twitter.com/iywzCiAViJ

— ye (@kanyewest) November 3, 2022

Wow. When Kanye was involuntarily committed for a psychiatric evaluation in 2016, it all originated from this guy Pasternak's house! What could have happened is that Pasternak had Kanye drugged, and then he called the cops or whoever to have Kanye committed. So this backs up what Kanye just said in that tweet from today, alleging that Pasternak has threatened to have him "institutionalized again and drugged into Zombieland".

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— @8bit_frog (𝒴𝓋𝑒𝓈 𝒮𝓏𝓃) (@8bit_frog) November 3, 2022

https://www.tmz.com/2016/11/21/kanye-west-hospitalized/

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Kanye West has been taken to UCLA Medical Center for psychiatric evaluation.

According to law enforcement sources ... cops responded to a call for a welfare check on Kanye around 1:20 PM PT. He was at his trainer Harley Pasternak's home at the time and was "acting erratically."

We're told police called L.A. Fire, and by the time paramedics arrived Kanye was calmer ... but still resistant to going to the hospital. We're told everyone -- his management and law enforcement -- convinced him it was best he go. Law enforcement sources tell us Kanye was handcuffed to a gurney during transport to the hospital ... as standard protocol.

We got Pasternak outside his house late Monday evening. If he knows how Kanye's doing, he's not saying much.

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These tweets exposing Pasternak are HUGE. Not only does it validate his allegations of a "jewish mafia" controlling the media and Hollywood. But it also completely refutes the false allegation being used to "discredit" him -- alleging that he is "crazy".

Kanye is also now tweeting today in support of Kyrie Irving, who they are now crucifying over him tweeting about a film that is supposedly (*gasp*) "anti-semitic".

This is all getting very interesting.

Black men being crucified and for what? How does this happen? Because they are criticizing those who truly have the power in our society.

The person threatening Kanye to commit him again to the "zombieland" mental hospital forever is his personal trainer who committed him in 2016.
In 2018, Kanye said he thought he was going to be killed there and it was the scariest moment of his life. pic.twitter.com/N82gyWSF19

— Donda Times (@dondatimes) November 3, 2022

How come none of this stuff never made it onto the Kardashian soap opera show?