China - may be fire to this 9/24/2022 smoke

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I've been meaning to put this out. The incidence of troop movements in China, etc detected by the embedded American in southern China when I first started this thread came to fruition with this event. My understanding is that there was an attempted coup but Russian intelligence (Putin) sources tipped Xi and resulted in this event along with the arrests of other co-conspirators.



I've said here before that the CCP was created by the Khazarian Mafia not many years after they successfully overthrew the Romanovs and killing the Russian Czar, Nicholas II, and his family in 1918 in the Bolshevik revolution. Yes, the Bolsheviks were a creation of the KM.

Just to add, is XI on Putin's side, the KM's side, etc. A lot of questions and no sure answers. The KM money laundering and child trafficking is probably centered in Ukraine.
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This is likely all tied together.

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World Economic Forum/New World Order admires CCP and what they've achieved. They want the West to use this model too.

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If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
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Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?
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hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
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Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
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hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
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Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
So you would want the US to support a coup?
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hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
So you would want the US to support a coup?
LOL, the US has never ever done such a thing. :
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hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
So you would want the US to support a coup?


Yes, now would be a good time to work behind the scenes to topple the ChiComs.
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Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
So you would want the US to support a coup?


Yes, now would be a good time to work behind the scenes to topple the ChiComs.
I do t think we have the intelligence to be in a position to do that sort of thing.
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hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
So you would want the US to support a coup?


Yes, now would be a good time to work behind the scenes to topple the ChiComs.
I do t think we have the intelligence to be in a position to do that sort of thing.
The CCP killed all of our assets after the Clinton's exposed them to the CCP. So probably not many remain.
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Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
I would say probably yes, based on the fact that Xi has enacted large scale purges of the previously somewhat semi-independent military mandarins to ensure that his loyalists are fully in charge of the PLA now.
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hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
So you would want the US to support a coup?


Yes, now would be a good time to work behind the scenes to topple the ChiComs.
I do t think we have the intelligence to be in a position to do that sort of thing.


You know what would help with that? A forward operating base in somewhere say, like Afghanistan?

We could have given the country back to the Taliban but kept Bagram (my home for two years). But your guy effed that up. We went dark in a very dark part of the world.
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Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
I would say probably yes, based on the fact that Xi has enacted large scale purges of the previously somewhat semi-independent military mandarins to ensure that his loyalists are fully in charge of the PLA now.
You seem to be quite plugged in on a lot of these issues. One of the more confusing aspects of all that is going on globally - to me - is how China breaks down internally. An uprising in China is brewing and how it shakes out is a question. And then throw in Taiwan and North Korea questions.
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Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
So you would want the US to support a coup?


Yes, now would be a good time to work behind the scenes to topple the ChiComs.
I do t think we have the intelligence to be in a position to do that sort of thing.


You know what would help with that? A forward operating base in somewhere say, like Afghanistan?

We could have given the country back to the Taliban but kept Bagram (my home for two years). But your guy effed that up. We went dark in a very dark part of the world.

Not my guy However, you seem to just think bombing China is going to work?
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hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
So you would want the US to support a coup?


Yes, now would be a good time to work behind the scenes to topple the ChiComs.
I do t think we have the intelligence to be in a position to do that sort of thing.


You know what would help with that? A forward operating base in somewhere say, like Afghanistan?

We could have given the country back to the Taliban but kept Bagram (my home for two years). But your guy effed that up. We went dark in a very dark part of the world.

Not my guy However, you seem to just think bombing China is going to work?


Huh? With a FOB in Afghanistan it would be much easier to spy on China. We could aid those wanting to overthrow the CCP with information/intelligence.
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He rolls s$it out like that thinking he's gonna outsmart ya such that you walk into a trap. Elementary skills......not a chess champion.
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Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
So you would want the US to support a coup?


Yes, now would be a good time to work behind the scenes to topple the ChiComs.
I do t think we have the intelligence to be in a position to do that sort of thing.


You know what would help with that? A forward operating base in somewhere say, like Afghanistan?

We could have given the country back to the Taliban but kept Bagram (my home for two years). But your guy effed that up. We went dark in a very dark part of the world.

Not my guy However, you seem to just think bombing China is going to work?


Huh? With a FOB in Afghanistan it would be much easier to spy on China. We could aid those wanting to overthrow the CCP with information/intelligence.
Ok, I misunderstood. I agree with that as well. I do think though the bigger issue is that we do not have a through understanding of the inner workings of the Chinese government, and i think that would take more intelligence efforts from within China too.
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Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
I would say probably yes, based on the fact that Xi has enacted large scale purges of the previously somewhat semi-independent military mandarins to ensure that his loyalists are fully in charge of the PLA now.
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Werewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
I would say probably yes, based on the fact that Xi has enacted large scale purges of the previously somewhat semi-independent military mandarins to ensure that his loyalists are fully in charge of the PLA now.



I don't know about you but I'm just glad we have Sleepy Joe at the wheel to guide the world in these times.
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Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

Oldsouljer said:

Werewolf said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

hokiewolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

If we didn't have sleepy Joe in charge we could push China over right now.

Thanks a lot to everyone who voted for this dip*.
debating the merits of the current President I'm not interested in, but who exactly would you "push China over"?


What?
sorry, how would you push China over? Dang autocorrect on iphone
Trade with China has retracted by 60%. The YouTube show, MonkeyWerx, has shown the dramatic decrease in direct shipping between the US and China to near zero. Trade continues to some extent via air and indirectly. Shipping costs by air are substantially greater relative to sea and shipping containers. We're in a transition to decouple from China.

The damage to China's economy will be substantial. It will be interesting to see if the CCP regime can be toppled as a result. Is China's military fully on-board with the CCP?
I would say probably yes, based on the fact that Xi has enacted large scale purges of the previously somewhat semi-independent military mandarins to ensure that his loyalists are fully in charge of the PLA now.



I don't know about you but I'm just glad we have Sleepy Joe at the wheel to guide the world in these times.
Who does Sleepy Joe really work for is the question. TBD.
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