FINA rules transgenders cannot compete in international women's sports

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hokiewolf
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Or You could've just said, "you're right hokiewolf, let me edit my post, thanks!"

But you don't have a discourse bone in your body champ
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hokiewolf said:

Or You could've just said, "you're right hokiewolf, let me edit my post, thanks!"

But you don't have a discourse bone in your body champ
And you can take that and put it with your participation trophies and your "receipt" for donating. That will forever be your legacy.

Be proud.. at least you earned that one.
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BBW12OG said:

hokiewolf said:

It was actually 5-2 according to the article. Also this was back in 2017
Oh.... My bad Pinocchio..... 5-2 against middle school and freshmen is WAAAYYYY better than 7-1.
Oh, by the way... those numbers represent scores. Scores represent a team that has the most points, runs, goals vs. the team that has a lower number. That determines who wins or loses.

A "win" means you defeated the opponent. A "loss" means you didn't win." I know it's tough for you and your generation to muster since you got a trophy for just showing up.

I know a trophy you have won!!! Longest nose.

In 2017 what was their ranking?

How dominant were they?

Keep trying to justify your "woke agenda."

You showed us who you are... You are the Adam "Pinocchio" Schiff of this board..... If it doesn't happen, you just make it up and run with it....


B...b...but this was way back in 2017!
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TheStorm said:

BBW12OG said:

hokiewolf said:

It was actually 5-2 according to the article. Also this was back in 2017
Oh.... My bad Pinocchio..... 5-2 against middle school and freshmen is WAAAYYYY better than 7-1.
Oh, by the way... those numbers represent scores. Scores represent a team that has the most points, runs, goals vs. the team that has a lower number. That determines who wins or loses.

A "win" means you defeated the opponent. A "loss" means you didn't win." I know it's tough for you and your generation to muster since you got a trophy for just showing up.

I know a trophy you have won!!! Longest nose.

In 2017 what was their ranking?

How dominant were they?

Keep trying to justify your "woke agenda."

You showed us who you are... You are the Adam "Pinocchio" Schiff of this board..... If it doesn't happen, you just make it up and run with it....


B...b...but this was way back in 2017!
Libby logic.... If it suited his ideology he would be spouting off nonsense that happened 100 years ago.

But, give him a break.... if he talks too much his nose grows!
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BBW12OG said:

TheStorm said:

BBW12OG said:

hokiewolf said:

It was actually 5-2 according to the article. Also this was back in 2017
Oh.... My bad Pinocchio..... 5-2 against middle school and freshmen is WAAAYYYY better than 7-1.
Oh, by the way... those numbers represent scores. Scores represent a team that has the most points, runs, goals vs. the team that has a lower number. That determines who wins or loses.

A "win" means you defeated the opponent. A "loss" means you didn't win." I know it's tough for you and your generation to muster since you got a trophy for just showing up.

I know a trophy you have won!!! Longest nose.

In 2017 what was their ranking?

How dominant were they?

Keep trying to justify your "woke agenda."

You showed us who you are... You are the Adam "Pinocchio" Schiff of this board..... If it doesn't happen, you just make it up and run with it....


B...b...but this was way back in 2017!
Libby logic.... If it suited his ideology he would be spouting off nonsense that happened 100 years ago.

But, give him a break.... if he talks too much his nose grows!
Lets look at the facts.

1. This was a scrimmage in 2017 where the Women's national team was working on defensive positioning and counter attacking. This wasn't an actual game. So chances are the score doesn't tell the whole story.

2. The comparison between this game and transgender athletes is a non sequitur. If the US Womens National Team had a match against a team of 15 year old transgender athletes and lost, then yes, you've got a point!

How about this, understand you don't like Megan Rapinoe's politics, frankly neither do I. But you decided to promote her dumb opinion on here. I don't really care what Megan Rapinoe's opinion on transgender athletes is because frankly is a small minority opinion.

Also, I find it curious that you follow Mary Katharine Ham, you know her being a Trump hating globalist and whatnot.
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"Lets look at the facts." Hokiewolf
Coming from you.... that's funny......

So you want to drill down to who was playing, what they were doing right?

Damn dude... just damn.

Again, final scores matter to some of us. Sorry you don't realize that. Keep toting that through the next few years. It will work out. You may get another "participation trophy" to add to your collection.

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Who is Rapione?
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TheStorm said:

Who is Rapione?
The same person that paid for Hokie's donation to Warren....LOL!!!!
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hokiewolf
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TheStorm said:

Who is Rapione?
Thanks for the heads up Storm, I've edited my post to correct the spelling!
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hokiewolf
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"Lets look at the facts." Hokiewolf
Coming from you.... that's funny......

So you want to drill down to who was playing, what they were doing right?

Damn dude... just damn.

Again, final scores matter to some of us. Sorry you don't realize that. Keep toting that through the next few years. It will work out. You may get another "participation trophy" to add to your collection.


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Big Bad Wolf. OG...2002

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In all fairness to the National Team, they were probably distracted during the game by their self-admiration.
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Oldsouljer said:

In all fairness to the National Team, they were probably distracted during the game by their self-admiration.
Agree... they are part of the "participation trophy" generation.

Ask Pinocchio..... he has several.
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1. If it was a practice, why was there a score?Regardless of what they were working on, it's still a game that they kept score.

2. The scenario is completely relevant to the argument. If a group of 15 yr Olds can compete with them and actually beat them, what do you think a squad of Trans women (men) of the same age would do to them? Completely relevant!
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Steve Videtich said:

1. If it was a practice, why was there a score?Regardless of what they were working on, it's still a game that they kept score.

2. The scenario is completely relevant to the argument. If a group of 15 yr Olds can compete with them and actually beat them, what do you think a squad of Trans women (men) of the same age would do to them? Completely relevant!
. Did you keep score on scrimmages and the spring game? Did those scores matter?

And your second point is my point. It's not relevant unless it was a game against a squad of 15 year old transgender kids, not male soccer athletes who are in training with a professional team. It would be expected for male non transgender athletes to be better than women. But it's not like these guys took hormone therapy for a year or two before this game.

So to me, you just can't take away much from this scenario and apply it as some sort of retort to Rapinoes comments, which again I think are stupid and not even close to a majority opinion that should be debated.
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hokiewolf said:

Steve Videtich said:

1. If it was a practice, why was there a score?Regardless of what they were working on, it's still a game that they kept score.

2. The scenario is completely relevant to the argument. If a group of 15 yr Olds can compete with them and actually beat them, what do you think a squad of Trans women (men) of the same age would do to them? Completely relevant!
. Did you keep score on scrimmages and the spring game? Did those scores matter?

And your second point is my point. It's not relevant unless it was a game against a squad of 15 year old transgender kids, not male soccer athletes who are in training with a professional team. It would be expected for male non transgender athletes to be better than women. But it's not like these guys took hormone therapy for a year or two before this game.

So to me, you just can't take away much from this scenario and apply it as some sort of retort to Rapinoes comments, which again I think are stupid and not even close to a majority opinion that should be debated.


As a matter of fact we did most of the time because we were competing. We kept score because I'm not sure how else you perceive how well you did. Even my daughter's club soccer team kept score every time we scrimmage.

And to the second point. You don't get it. I don't know how else to explain it to you. So, keep doing whatever it is your doing.
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In new guidelines being proposed by the Biden administration for Title IX, they seek to prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity. With these new guidelines, they would make it clear that institutions stopping someone from participating in school programs and activities consistent with their gender identity would cause harm consistent with a violation of Title IX. In this proposed change, they are conflating protections for biological sex with gender identity and there would be no difference between the two.

Under the new guidelines, institutions receiving federal funds would be precluded from not allowing biologic males who identify as females from participating in sports intended for biologic women. Under this new proposal, violations of Title IX can result in the loss of funding for universities, loss of scholarships, revocation of earned degrees, and expulsion of students.

As a reminder, this is the 50th Anniversary of Title IX. The larger issue Title IX originally tried to remedy was women's inequity in college athletics. It was intended to curb "sex-based" discrimination. At the time, few opportunities existed for women in sports at the collegiate level and Title IX was enacted to remedy those inequities. If the Biden administration is able to pass this new proposal, it will just mean more inequities for biologic women and effectively erase women from the statute meant to protect them.
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Where are the women's rights, women's lib people on this? Are they upset by this?
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Steve Videtich said:

Where are the women's rights, women's lib people on this? Are they upset by this?
The traditional women's rights organizations are being silenced by the trans rights supporters. If you do not fall in line, they will try to silence or cancel you.

As an example, look at writer JK Rowling and what has and is happening to her. She has come out in strong opposition to those advocating for youth transitioning. She has argued against the use of puberty blockers, sterilizing drugs, and surgical changes for children under the age of 18. In 2020, she retweeted and op-ed article that discussed "people who menstruate" and took issue with the fact the story did not use the word "women." For this, she received a lot of criticism, but she did no stop. She argued, "If sex isn't real, there's no same-sex attraction. If sex isn't real, the lived reality of women globally is erased." In June of 2020, she published a post on her website that called for TERF wars. TERF is an acronym for trans-exclusionary radical female.

For this, she has been roundly criticized by many in the publishing and entertainment industry. All of the primary actors from the Harry Potter movies have publicly denounced her views. In fact, Daniel Radcliffe was compelled to say that "Transgender women are women. Any statement to the contrary erases identity and dignity of transgender people and goes against all advice given by professional health care associates who have far more expertise on this subject matter than Jo" (Jo is his nickname for JK Rowling).

For her views, she has received death threats. People have tried to have the sale of her books banned. She has not been included in Harry Potter reunion events involving the other actors. Bottom line, the supporters of radical trans rights have attempted to cancel her. Rowling in an unabashed supporter for women's rights and even for trans rights. What she objects to is the equating of transwomen as biological women.
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So, everything that women have fought for in terms of equality and opportunity is now out the window! Sports positions, women of the year awards, jobs and so on. Now all of those opportunities created for women are now even harder for them to achieve. Women are being pushed to the side yet again?

Interesting that history's fighters are okay with this.
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The inversion of so many ideals we have worked to improve about our society is utterly astonishing to me. I would never have believed the return to racism and suppression of women would be a plank, let alone major plank, of the Democratic party platform. Does anyone still doubt that Democrats never believed the ideals they claimed to support? Perhaps political power was and is the only goal. What a sad and disturbing time in our nation's history!
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Steve Videtich said:

Interesting that history's fighters are okay with this.
They are selling out the female sex itself for the extremism minority voting block. They add this extremism minority block, to this extremism minority block, to those extremism minority blocks... and with the still required sleight of hand... it's the only way they can still win any national elections.

Hopefully, it will be fought by the masses...
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/06/tulsi-gabbard-congress-must-stop-biden-from-undermining-title-ix/

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Madeleine Kearns: What brought you out here today?

Tulsi Gabbard: The 50th anniversary of Title IX is a big deal. An even bigger deal is the fact that the opportunities and the progress that 50 years of Title IX has brought are at risk of going away. You know, who would have thought that it would be a courageous statement to say there are differences, biological and physiological differences, between men and women? But that's what's happening here today with these amazing young athletes and leaders from across generations, taking a stand and saying, Hey, we need to protect Title IX, protect women and girls and sports. And all of the progress and opportunity that's come with that.

Kearns: As a Democrat, when you introduced the Protect Women's Sports Act, you were very much an outlier. Why is that?

Gabbard: That's a good question. It's unfortunate [in] that I think that there are probably more people who agree and who recognize the truth, that there are, in fact, biological and physiological differences between men and women, and that a man does not become a woman simply by declaring it to be so. But there's a lot of fear around it in this cancel culture and, you know, people feeling like they have to self-censor, or that they will be ostracized, as I have been, in many cases, simply for stating this biological truth.

Kearns: What would you like to see with regard to policy to push back on some of this stuff? Today, the Biden administration came out with regulations redefining "sex" to include gender identity. What can be done about that?

Gabbard: Congress needs to pass legislation. I mean, that's the check and balance of the executive and the legislative branch. Congress needs to pass legislation in order to stop that action, [the] Biden administration's action from moving forward because it will directly undermine Title IX and erase the progress that women have made.

Kearns: How optimistic are you about the success of this new women's-rights movement?

Gabbard: My hope is that the more people speak up, the more others will feel inspired and almost feel a sense of duty to do the same if not for themselves then for their daughters, their sisters, their moms, their friends. Because if we don't take a stand, then the consequences will be very serious and long-standing.
I guess Gabbard represents the old minority Democrat who wants to stand on a straightforward understanding of biology. Perhaps she is right that our cancel culture is blocking reasonable folks from taking a stand.
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It's like shouting into an abandoned train tunnel! Canceled and useless!
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Wait until a white person starts identifying as a black person. What will happen to civil rights laws of the 60's?
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caryking said:

Wait until a white person starts identifying as a black person. What will happen to civil rights laws of the 60's?
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/17/us/rachel-dolezal-nbc-today-show.html
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Recent story about a 29 year old transgender woman taking 1st place in skateboarding over a 13 year old girl. I don't understand how anyone can justify this should be allowed.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/los-angeles-trans-woman-29-beats-13-year-old-girl-first-place-nyc-womens-skateboarding-contest
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https://instagr.am/p/CgdF19Au3z_

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U.S. - The nation's leading scientists unveiled a new periodic table of genders to help everyone keep track of the evolving gender spectrum. Experts are recommending the table be rolled out to schools across the nation and added to each state's curriculum for grades 9-12.

The gender table features 114 genders in addition to a wild card space that represents the limitless imagination of the human mind.

"One of the biggest struggles with gender identity is that no one knows what you're talking about," said Dr. Stephen Andross. "I, myself, am amicagender, which means my gender identity changes depending on the friends I have. This is distinct from someone who is genderfluid or genderfuzz and now, thanks to our gender table, people can easily understand this."

"Why are you laughing?"

Scientists compiled their list of genders based on a survey of mentally ill patients and their own personal desires. Later, the information was distilled into a brief but meaningless combination of made-up words and categories.

In a survey of gender studies majors, it was found to be "mildly helpful."

At publishing time, California legislators voted to require teaching on the periodic table of genders beginning in kindergarten.

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I can't believe the NCAA is so bigoted to only allow competition for two of the 475 genders. We demand a separate division of competition for the other 473 genders -- including gender fluids, non-binary, pangender, genderqueer, third gender, and furries.

And why are they allowing men to compete as women such as the brave women's swimming champion, which then effectively does away with women's sports and makes everything only a competition between men?? She/he should have her own division for transgender athletes.

And why does the NCAA pretend to know what a woman is anyway? No one can know the answer to that.

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An 80-year-old woman in Washington state has been banned from using a YMCA pool, after complaining about a "transgender man" (who was a YMCA employee) using the women's locker room, including walking around naked in front of young girls and staring at naked little girls. The YMCA called the police on the woman, saying she was "discriminating".

So this "transgender man" planned this all out -- and became an employee at the YMCA so that he could "legally" engage in his sick perverted activity of getting into the girls locker room and peep on naked young girls.

And now the woman (a Democrat voter, per article) gets punished, and has the police called on her.

This is what you get voting for the communist Democrats, and their sick Satanic agenda.

As I said in my thread on this subject that was locked, this transgender insanity is a Satanic agenda being used to destroy society.

https://www.porttownsendfreepress.com/2022/08/02/mountain-view-pool-punishes-woman-for-her-gender-expression-and-identity-part-one/

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Mountain View Pool Punishes Woman

Aug 2, 2022

An 80-year old woman who expressed extreme discomfort and fear about a male in the women's shower area of the Mountain View Pool was permanently banned from using the facility.

For 35 years the Mountain View poola City of Port Townsend facility now operated in partnership with the Olympic Peninsula YMCAand its women's showers had been a safe place for her. But not that day. The woman had to stand naked in the presence of the male, a YMCA employee, despite her pleas and demands that he leave. She was also very concerned that this male was watching little girls as they peeled off their swimsuits. Another YMCA employee called the police on the woman. The woman was initially instructed by a Y employee to leave, but then prohibited from exiting the building by two YMCA employees. She exclaimed, "Bull***** I need the police!" and left to report the incident immediately to the Port Townsend Police Department.

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Julie Jaman has been in Port Townsend for about 40 years. She has been swimming at the Mountain View pool for most of those years.

[...]

Jaman is a woman whose gender expression and identity recoil at being naked against her will in the presence of strange males and whose mothering instincts ("the momma bear in me," she says) surfaced when she saw a man in a woman's bathing suit looking at nearly naked little girls.

[...]

While lathered up in the shower Jaman heard a definite, low male voice. She saw a male in a woman's swimsuit very close to where she was showering. Julie says he was "looking at the little girls as they were taking off their suits." She remembers about four little girls being in the room.

Jaman says she was shocked. "There were gaps in the curtain and there I was, naked, with soap and water on me, and this guy, right there very close to me. I asked, 'Do you have a *****?' He said, 'That's none of your business.' That's when I told him, 'Get out of here, right now.'"

Jaman then noticed that DeLuna was also there just outside her shower stall. Julie said to her, "Get him out of here." DeLuna responded, according to Jaman,"You're discriminating and you can't use the pool anymore and I'm calling the police."
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TheStorm said:

Who is Rapione?


Pretty sure she played the son on Who's The Boss?


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[Forwarded from RealTimeNews
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Following an injury to a female player at a high school volleyball game last month caused by a biologically male athlete (https://thepostmillennial.com/us-womens-soccer-captain-says-fairness-isnt-as-important-as-letting-biological-boys-play-in-girls-sports/?utm_campaign=64494), a school board in North Carolina has blocked further games with a school, citing student safety concerns.

During a tournament, a Hiwassee Dam High School student was hit in the face with the ball, sent over the net by a Highlands High School student.

According to the Education First Alliance (https://www.edfirstnc.org/post/female-hs-volleyball-player-seriously-injured-by-alleged-trans-competitor-in-north-carolina), the Hiwassee student, a biological girl, received severe head and neck injuries as a result of the incident, which has given the player long-term concussion symptoms, including problems with her vision.

@dailyrealtimenews

(https://thepostmillennial.com/north-carolina-school-board-blocks-further-games-with-competing-school-following-injury-caused-by-transgender-player?utm_campaign=64494)T (https://thepostmillennial.com/north-carolina-school-board-blocks-further-games-with-competing-school-following-injury-caused-by-transgender-player?utm_campaign=64494)oSource
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NC State swimming connection here:

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nc-state-swim-star-kylee-alons-changed-storage-closet-during-2022-ncaa-championships-rep?dicbo=v2-Jvptlyn

I wonder how long it will take before rainbowwolf07 shows up and calls this amazing young woman a fascist...
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